Let's flame movies that wreck cars!!!!!
dwjo...@charlie.usd.edu
like the 40 2-door sedan that was run over by a tank in "1941". Made me
mad that I paid money to see that turkey!
Another neat car that no longer exists is the 48 Ford convert, driven by
Phil Silvers, in "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World". In his zeal to get to
the "W" palms, where the money was supposedly hidden, he tore off the drivers
door and finally drove it off a bridge(?). The last view is of it sinking!
How about the 38 Plymouth coupe whose top was torn off in "Roger Rabbit"?
Or the 57 BelAir 2-door sedan, flipped end-over-end in "Used Cars"? That
really burns my butt! I guess I had already made that obvious. I feel
better already.
Bye - DJ
BRETT ROBERTSON
>Subject: Let's flame movies that wreck cars!!!!!
>From: dwjo...@charlie.usd.edu
>Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 02:37:47 GMT
How about the 'Italian Job' with michael caine.........numerous Mini
Cooper 'S' Made me sad...even the sight of the Minis chirping about the
streets beforehand didn't make it worth while!! :(
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Roger Hupfauer
How about the '69 Charger in Bullet, all the '69 Chargers in the ever
so talented-acting show "The Dukes of Hazzard". Or, how about the
'55 Chevy in American Graffitti (sp?), or the '65 GTO in the original
Night of the Living Dead, or the '68 Camaro in Vanishing Point. I know,
someone is going to say "But wait, it was a '70 Challenger, not a
'68 Camaro". Yeah, I know, but the car that was smashed into the blades
of the bulldozers was a gutted '68 Camaro pulled by a cable into the blades.
I read this in a rag; then rented the movie so see. Put your VCR on pause
just before he rams the blades, then advance it one frame at a time.
When the camera goes to the rear of the car just before impact, you can
see plain as day a '68 Camaro rear end. Let's see, there's also the '89
Mustang GT that gets blown to pieces in The Last Boyscout. BTW, doesn't
the wreckage look like the GT rims were removed and replaced with some
old rims? I also remember a Dirty Harry movie where a really nice
'78 Z-28 is wrecked. And, there's that Stallone - Snypes movie that came out
last year where Stallone is in the future and finds a '72 Chevelle in mint
condition. He basically wrecked that car. Demolision Man, that's it; I
just remembered. Or how about the Corvette in that stupid movie Corvette
Summer starting Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker). And let's not forget the
yellow '72 Corvette Stingray in (I'm not sure if this is the movie) Walking
Tall. Last one: The '70 Charger in Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry. BTW, if anyone
has a copy of this movie I'll pay top dollar for it.
Peace
-Roger
Harjeet Kalsi
>How about the '69 Charger in Bullet, all the '69 Chargers in the ever
>so talented-acting show "The Dukes of Hazzard". Or, how about the
How many Chargers did that show destroy before they started using minatures?
Anyone know for sure? Did the show raise the value of the 69 Charger because
of all the publicity? BTW, I loved Dukes of Hazard ! It was funny, enjoyable, had fast
muscle cars and the main reason was that Charger! - WILL get one someday... but not
an orange one! :-)
-- Harjeet S. Kalsi
h...@microplex.com
Robert King
Relax DJ, most of the cars that are "wrecked" in movies are 1) not
all that seriously damaged, 2) gutted hulks that have little or no
collector value, and 3) are friequently rebuilt to be crashed again.
Case in point - my sister works as an assistant director in the movie
industry in Dallas. One of the first movies she worked on was called
"My New Car" (or somthing to that effect.) The plot of the movie
involved a country kid who was about to get married. All his life he
dreamed of owning a Lamborghini Countach. Naturally, he couldn't afford
one, but he *did* save up enough money to buy a Countach look-alike
(which naturally turned out to be a lemon.)
In shooting the movie, the production company used *three* Countach's
(cosmetically modified at Lamborghini's instance.) The first one
actually belonged to the producer and was used for close-up and interior
shots. The second was used for high-speed driving stunts (non-
destructive stunts.) Interestingly, the second car was outfitted with
a Chevy motor (for reliability and ease of maintainance,) and a roll
cage. The third was the "crash car." the interior was gutted except
for a form-fitting seat, Nascar-type roll-cage, basic instrumentation,
pedals, and a steering wheel. (Oh yeah, it had a Ford SB - 302 or
289 - that looked like absolute SHIT. Ran like it too.) You could
tell from looking inside it that it had seen fire more than once. The
sheetmetal was VERY thin stock, the same as used in Nascar bodies, I
would expect. They like the thin stock because it doesn't fly very far
in an explosion, and it rips apart quite nicely in wrecks, explosions,
etc...
So, in short, when you see an old calssic being wrecked, look REALLY
close, its probably a junk.
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David Williams
I reckon John Cleese (tall bloke in Monty Python) should be awarded for his treatment of cars in a film called Clockwise and the series Faulty Towers.
In Clockwise he boots the hell of a Morris 1100 (i think) in a field and in an episode of Faulty Towers he beats a Morris 1100 senseless with a branch. What a nutter!!!
Anyway, I think JC should get an Oscar - Moggy 1100s were crap!!!!*(&&$^&.
Dave.
...................... can you hear me mother!@!!!
Roger Hupfauer
I remember reading in TV Guide years ago that they wrecked 3 per episode. At the end
of the article was a number to call if you had a junked '69 Charger you'd like to
sell or donate. I guess they bought the cars from junkyards, cleaned up the side you'll
see, then wrecked them. I loved watching the jumps and such. BTW, ever see one on the
highway? I saw one on I-80 in Iowa. Looked exactly like the General Lee, and I
saw another one on I-94 in Wisconsin.
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Bruce Thomas
>Good evening: I get really steamed watching the imminent doom of a nice car,
>like the 40 2-door sedan that was run over by a tank in "1941". Made me
Keep in mind that sometimes the cars being destroyed were new or almost
new when the movie was made. (Not always, just sometimes). Would you be
upset if an '91 Caprice or LTD got demolished in a movie based in the
present?
When the Dukes were killing '69 Chargers, the cars weren't that old. Its
just painful to watch the re-runs.
I do agree about demolishing old cars in new movies. I hope they are
using mock-ups. The most infamous example that I can think of is the
'49-'50 Mercury that Stallone destroyed in "Cobra".
Bruce
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Gert Niewahr
The movie I hate is Tin Men. All the aluminum siding salesmen drive "new"
Cadillacs: one '60, a couple of '61-62's. In the scene that made me
scream, Danny DeVito backs his '62 into Richard Dreyfus' '60. If thoser
were NOS parts, the producers ought to be shot.
In article <1994Jul18.1...@khis.com>, ki...@khis.com wrote:
> Relax DJ, most of the cars that are "wrecked" in movies are 1) not
> all that seriously damaged, 2) gutted hulks that have little or no
> collector value, and 3) are friequently rebuilt to be crashed again.
Depends on the film. Most classic cars aren't worth so much that it would
be cheaper to build a replica to destroy instead of just buying an
original and totalling that. And how often does Hollywood need a
crashable '55 Fairlane? Not very. No specialty auto supplier is going to
keep around a whole stable of already crashed classics, so when when the
script calls for a '55 Fairlane to be smunched they'll just buy one,
crunch it, and sell it for scrap. That's one less classic. I can believe
that the suppliers keep around a few generic crash cars of all types--one
flashy sports car (Countach), one cop car (Caprice), one limo (stretch
Lincoln), and so on--but I can't believe that anyone is saving whole yards
of crash classics or only buy trashed classics and then restore them just
to crack 'em up (cheaper to buy one already restored, which might be an
all-original rod).
agno...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
What about the Dukes of Hazzard? One CHarger right after the next...
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Christian the Agno...@Vax1.mankato.msus.edu
- First Hillary, then Gennifer, now the American Citizen.
Steven J Orlin
Bruce Thomas <bth...@netcom.com> wrote:
>I do agree about demolishing old cars in new movies. I hope they are
>using mock-ups. The most infamous example that I can think of is the
>'49-'50 Mercury that Stallone destroyed in "Cobra".
I saw a special episode on TV once about how they film car wrecks and the
like. Most often, if not always, the car you see in good condition, comes
out alive and well.
The car that you see crashing, or upside down is just a mock, probably
from a junkyard.
So, are you absolutely 100% surely positive that it isn't just Hollywood's
wonders that lead you to believe all these beautiful cars are getting
smashed?
Like the one poster pointed out, if you look closely, you can often see
difference in the wrecks.
It would seem like movie makers would have tons of money to make these
'props' expendable, but something tells me that it doesn't happen that
often. Hell, if I was the movie director, I'd want the car after
the filming was over!
Steve
Jim Davis
>Depends on the film. Most classic cars aren't worth so much that it would
>be cheaper to build a replica to destroy instead of just buying an
>original and totalling that. And how often does Hollywood need a
>crashable '55 Fairlane? Not very. No specialty auto supplier is going to
>keep around a whole stable of already crashed classics, so when when the
>script calls for a '55 Fairlane to be smunched they'll just buy one,
>crunch it, and sell it for scrap. That's one less classic. I can believe
>that the suppliers keep around a few generic crash cars of all types--one
>flashy sports car (Countach), one cop car (Caprice), one limo (stretch
>Lincoln), and so on--but I can't believe that anyone is saving whole yards
>of crash classics or only buy trashed classics and then restore them just
>to crack 'em up (cheaper to buy one already restored, which might be an
>all-original rod).
Well, as I understand it, most of the crashed cars come from the studios not
auto suppliers. We were in Fla a couple of years ago and took the Universal
Studios tour that goes through the backlot where they keep all the really big
junk. They had a mini-graveyard full of cars and pieces of cars. The tour
guide said when they need a particular car to crash they pull one of the
junkers off the backlot and shoot a coat of paint on then smash it right up.
Jim D.
davi...@epamail.epa.gov
dwjo...@charlie.usd.edu
Hi: This is DJ here, original poster. The "1941" movie I mentioned was a
Spielberg movie, done in early 80's(?), w/John Belushi. The Cobra Merc's
were filmed when it IS possible for them to be glass. Have no idea, didn't
see the flick. How about the 34 Ford shot full of holes for Bonnie and
Clyde? As to the Hazzard cars, a good friend had a 69 R/T, Special Edition
(leather). You could drive at 100 with the windows DOWN, no draft! The
engineers had done their homework in the wind tunnel (for NASCAR, they didn't
use them!). Anyway, I hate to see the slomo flying sequences because you can
see the body flex. I think the bean counters factor in the cost of wasting a
car. If it is too expensive, they fake it. If they get a good deal on a
nice car, it's history.
Bye - DJ.
dwjo...@charlie.usd.edu
ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin) writes:
>In article <bthomasC...@netcom.com>,
>Bruce Thomas <bth...@netcom.com> wrote:
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>I saw a special episode on TV once about how they film car wrecks and the
>like...The car that you see crashing, or upside down is just a mock,
>probably from a junkyard.
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>Like the one poster pointed out, if you look closely, you can often see
>difference in the wrecks.
>
>Steve
Good evening: If you are watching American Graffiti, the 55 Chevy that is
upside-down has stock rear wheel wells. The car they were driving through
the movie has circular rear wells the size of the wheel. DJ