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trotsky

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Sep 9, 2002, 12:17:58 PM9/9/02
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Can you explain dave weil's statement "Your pomposity has let you down
again," in a language that a human can understand? TIA.

George M. Middius

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Sep 9, 2002, 2:24:02 PM9/9/02
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Gregipus, your "I'm so stupid so please explain every little thing
to me" act is getting pretty darn tiresome.

> Can you explain dave weil's statement "Your pomposity has let you down
> again," in a language that a human can understand? TIA.

I think you should "accord" dave from now on and concentrate on
having a meaningful dialog "about audio" with your new role model,
Harold the Ferstlerian. Unless you'd prefer to admit you've been
lying about how sincere Clerkie is.


tor b

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Sep 9, 2002, 2:30:11 PM9/9/02
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>From: George M. Middius Glanb...@KILLipoSPAM.net
>Date: 9/9/2002 1:24 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <bnppnuo3qmhsibsdp...@4ax.com>
Is it because he is using his other personas to troll Arny, and the Middius
persona has nothing else left to do?


tor b

Arny Krueger

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Sep 9, 2002, 2:31:44 PM9/9/02
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"tor b" <torre...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> Message-id: <bnppnuo3qmhsibsdp...@4ax.com>

Middius is still trolling me, FWIW.


Surf

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Sep 9, 2002, 2:56:04 PM9/9/02
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Arny uses Tor B and then follows up 1 minute later. Wow.

trotsky

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Sep 9, 2002, 3:04:59 PM9/9/02
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I kind of predicted this, didn't I dave? I asked Middiot a direct
question about interpreting your nonsensical use of the language and he
immediately side stepped. What's your explanation for this?

George M. Middius

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Sep 9, 2002, 3:34:20 PM9/9/02
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Gregipus needs to be changed. Where's the wet nurse when you need
her?

> > Gregipus, your "I'm so stupid so please explain every little thing
> > to me" act is getting pretty darn tiresome.

> > > Can you explain dave weil's statement "Your pomposity has let you down
> > > again," in a language that a human can understand? TIA.

> > I think you should "accord" dave from now on and concentrate on
> > having a meaningful dialog "about audio" with your new role model,
> > Harold the Ferstlerian. Unless you'd prefer to admit you've been
> > lying about how sincere Clerkie is.

> I kind of predicted this, didn't I dave?

Harold, why haven't you stepped up to engage poor Gregipus in a
debate "about audio"? He has defended you pitilessly, and you
ignore him like a boil on your big toe.

> I asked Middiot a direct
> question about interpreting your nonsensical use of the language and he
> immediately side stepped. What's your explanation for this?

I want Harold to step in and take matters in hand.

BTW, Gregipus, why is bad for me to call them Clerkie and Krooborg
but it's OK for you to borrow an epithet last used by an anonymous
sockpuppeteer?

dave weil

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Sep 9, 2002, 5:25:58 PM9/9/02
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Hey, ya know, that dishwasher from India with the sultry voice that
Greenberg debuted on The Today Show was stainless steel.

Ought to be a perfect match for you.

Just don't forget the Jet Dry at that "special" time of the month.

Arny Krueger

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Sep 9, 2002, 5:28:14 PM9/9/02
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"Surf" <fug...@about.it> wrote in message
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> Arny uses Tor B and then follows up 1 minute later. Wow.

Middius, learn to read. Tor B posted at 2:31 and I posted at 2:56
EDT.


tor b

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Sep 9, 2002, 6:26:04 PM9/9/02
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>From: "Arny Krueger" ar...@hotpop.com
>Date: 9/9/2002 4:28 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <On8f9.67$xo5.6...@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>
The "RAO Clueless Asshole Hall of Fame" beckons...

BTW, do you really think that the current "Surf" persona is Middius. What
happened to Tom Albertz? He seemed real enough.


tor b

Arny Krueger

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Sep 9, 2002, 7:14:02 PM9/9/02
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"tor b" <torre...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> From: "Arny Krueger" ar...@hotpop.com
>> Date: 9/9/2002 4:28 PM Central Daylight Time
>> Message-id: <On8f9.67$xo5.6...@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>
>>
>> "Surf" <fug...@about.it> wrote in message
>> news:3D7CEEC3...@about.it
>>
>>> Arny uses Tor B and then follows up 1 minute later. Wow.
>>
>> Middius, learn to read. Tor B posted at 2:31 and I posted at 2:56
>> EDT.
>> The "RAO Clueless Asshole Hall of Fame" beckons...
>
> BTW, do you really think that the current "Surf" persona is
> Middius.

He broke character, I asked him about it, and he admitted it.

>What happened to Tom Albertz? He seemed real enough.

Good question. Think that Tom Albertz the surfer lives in
California?

http://www.anywho.com/qry/wp_fap?lastname=albertz&firstname=&street=&
city=&state=CA&zip=&btnsubmit.x=38&btnsubmit.y=7

Look at the results for yourself!

I guess not. Got any other ideas about what states to try?


tor b

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Sep 9, 2002, 7:32:02 PM9/9/02
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>From: "Arny Krueger" ar...@hotpop.com
>Date: 9/9/2002 6:14 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <_W9f9.94$wW5.8...@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>
There's a Tom Albertz listed in Ft. Collins, CO. My impression was that he was
a wind surfer, not "traditional" surfer.


tor b

Arny Krueger

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Sep 9, 2002, 7:39:24 PM9/9/02
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"tor b" <torre...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Interesting, but proves nothing. Can anybody find an old RAO post
that fits with this?


trotsky

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Sep 9, 2002, 7:59:33 PM9/9/02
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dave weil wrote:
>
> On Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:04:59 -0500, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"George M. Middius" wrote:
> >>
> >> Gregipus, your "I'm so stupid so please explain every little thing
> >> to me" act is getting pretty darn tiresome.
> >>
> >> > Can you explain dave weil's statement "Your pomposity has let you down
> >> > again," in a language that a human can understand? TIA.
> >>
> >> I think you should "accord" dave from now on and concentrate on
> >> having a meaningful dialog "about audio" with your new role model,
> >> Harold the Ferstlerian. Unless you'd prefer to admit you've been
> >> lying about how sincere Clerkie is.
> >
> >
> >I kind of predicted this, didn't I dave? I asked Middiot a direct
> >question about interpreting your nonsensical use of the language and he
> >immediately side stepped. What's your explanation for this?
>
> Hey, ya know, that dishwasher from India with the sultry voice that
> Greenberg debuted on The Today Show was stainless steel.

My God, can't you fucking pantywaists come up with any sort of counter
for my lines in inquiry? You guys are fucking disgusting. Hell, at
least Krueger responds to direct questions.

George M. Middius

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Sep 9, 2002, 8:05:18 PM9/9/02
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Jumbo Veg said:

> Hell, at least Krueger responds to direct questions.

What about the lobster fork, then?

dave weil

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Sep 9, 2002, 8:11:02 PM9/9/02
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It's just that hilarity that I'm known for throughout the known
universe.

But since you want an answer, why should I explain someone else's
motivation?

I just love it when you resort to whining.

And when I best you at the ole "world class wit" thing that you
blather on about.

Surf

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Sep 9, 2002, 10:45:47 PM9/9/02
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Wrong. Tor=Arny posted at 2:30. Arny posted at 2:31. *I* posted at
2:56. Could you be any dummmmer.?

Surf

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Sep 9, 2002, 10:48:03 PM9/9/02
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This is so precious.... you talking to yourself like that. I think
you were talking about yourself when you were talking about the

George M. Middius

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Sep 9, 2002, 10:58:12 PM9/9/02
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Surf said to Shit-for-Brains:

> > > Arny uses Tor B and then follows up 1 minute later. Wow.

> > Middius, learn to read.

> Could you be any dummmmer.?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the first comment, about
the fake "tor" animated by Turdy's buddy The Thing, was yours.

Why is Mr. Shit so confused?

trotsky

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Sep 9, 2002, 11:12:42 PM9/9/02
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What happened to your claim that you can admit when you're wrong? Do
you consider yourself a liar?

tor b

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Sep 9, 2002, 11:58:17 PM9/9/02
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>From: Surf fug...@about.it
>Date: 9/9/2002 9:48 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3D7D5D5E...@about.it>
Nope. I was talking about you, clueless one.


tor b

Surf

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Sep 10, 2002, 12:41:07 AM9/10/02
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tor b wrote:
>
> >This is so precious.... you talking to yourself like that. I think
> >you were talking about yourself when you were talking about the
> >"RAO Clueless Asshole Hall of Fame"
> >
> Nope. I was talking about you, clueless one.
>
> tor b


OMG! I feel like I'm being single-teamed!


You are as dummm as Arny.
You are as sick as Arny.
You stink just like Arny.
You are Arny.

Arny Krueger

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Sep 10, 2002, 6:11:25 AM9/10/02
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"Surf" <fug...@about.it> wrote in message
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>> tor b

If that isn't one of sockpuppet "Yustabe's" stupid childish posts,
what is?

See folks what I mean about sockpuppet "Surf's" posts being written
by the same person as posts as sockpuppet "Yustabe's" Same childish
tone, same simplistic mind.

BTW, try searching www.anywho.com for an "Albertz" in Colorado.
EMPTY!


dave weil

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Sep 10, 2002, 7:41:59 AM9/10/02
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No.

trotsky

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Sep 10, 2002, 8:43:12 AM9/10/02
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So what you are saying is that you are too afraid to answer both
questions. Duly noted.

dave weil

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Sep 10, 2002, 8:56:36 AM9/10/02
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Answers, since you seem to have a problem wih understanding what my
original answer meant in context.

Question number one: Look on your server - it's still there.
Question number two: no.

Your idiocy duly noted.

Surf

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Sep 10, 2002, 9:59:38 AM9/10/02
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Arny Krueger wrote:
>
> If that isn't one of sockpuppet "Yustabe's" stupid childish posts,
> what is?
> See folks what I mean about sockpuppet "Surf's" posts being written
> by the same person as posts as sockpuppet "Yustabe's" Same childish
> tone, same simplistic mind.

Now we have you playing the IKYABWAI game. Sad, but not surprising.


> BTW, try searching www.anywho.com for an "Albertz" in Colorado.
> EMPTY!

Just like your head, herr Kroooooogger.

trotsky

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Sep 10, 2002, 10:21:09 AM9/10/02
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That's a little too cryptic for me, dave. Here's the recap: you said
"Your pomposity has let you down again." I said that didn't make sense
in any human language I know of. You claimed your head wasn't really up
your ass. I asked Middius a direct question about nonsensicalness of
your statement, and he ducked it like a weasel. When I pointed this
out, you started whining profusely, and are still whining. Now I'm
asking you: do you have the balls to admit what you said was complete
and utter nonsense? You can blame it on the drugs if you want, I don't care.

dave weil

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Sep 10, 2002, 10:28:08 AM9/10/02
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:21:09 -0500, trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:

>
>
>dave weil wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:43:12 -0500, trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >dave weil wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 10 Sep 2002 03:12:42 GMT, trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> >> >What happened to your claim that you can admit when you're wrong? Do
>> >> >you consider yourself a liar?
>> >>
>> >> No.
>> >
>> >
>> >So what you are saying is that you are too afraid to answer both
>> >questions. Duly noted.
>>
>> Answers, since you seem to have a problem wih understanding what my
>> original answer meant in context.
>>
>> Question number one: Look on your server - it's still there.
>> Question number two: no.
>>
>> Your idiocy duly noted.
>
>
>That's a little too cryptic for me, dave.

Yes, I guess it would. That's what you get for trying to swim in the
deep end of the pool.

> Here's the recap: you said
>"Your pomposity has let you down again." I said that didn't make sense
>in any human language I know of. You claimed your head wasn't really up
>your ass. I asked Middius a direct question about nonsensicalness of
>your statement, and he ducked it like a weasel. When I pointed this
>out, you started whining profusely, and are still whining.

Who gives a shit about whether he wanted to answer the question or
not? You're the only one that seems to need his approval.

> Now I'm asking you: do you have the balls to admit what you said was complete
>and utter nonsense?

If I thought it was utter nonsense, I would admit it.

> You can blame it on the drugs if you want, I don't care.

I'm blaming it on your pomposity, which has let you down yet again.

Arny Krueger

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Sep 10, 2002, 10:30:22 AM9/10/02
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"Surf" <fug...@about.it> wrote in message
news:3D7DFAC0...@about.it

> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>> If that isn't one of sockpuppet "Yustabe's" stupid childish
>> posts, what is?
>> See folks what I mean about sockpuppet "Surf's" posts being
>> written by the same person as posts as sockpuppet "Yustabe's"
>> Same childish tone, same simplistic mind.

> Now we have you playing the IKYABWAI game.

Not hardly. You know what I am - a real person who does no
sockpuppets.

> Sad, but not surprising.

Meaningless posturing. Admittedly on a higher level than your
previous "Yustabe" sound-alike post.

>> BTW, try searching www.anywho.com for an "Albertz" in Colorado.
>> EMPTY!

> Just like your head, herr Kroooooogger.

Meaningless posturing.


dave weil

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Sep 10, 2002, 10:48:26 AM9/10/02
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:30:22 GMT, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
wrote:

>"Surf" <fug...@about.it> wrote in message
>news:3D7DFAC0...@about.it
>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>>
>>> If that isn't one of sockpuppet "Yustabe's" stupid childish
>>> posts, what is?
>>> See folks what I mean about sockpuppet "Surf's" posts being
>>> written by the same person as posts as sockpuppet "Yustabe's"
>>> Same childish tone, same simplistic mind.
>
>> Now we have you playing the IKYABWAI game.
>
>Not hardly. You know what I am - a real person who does no
>sockpuppets.

You *do* know what "not hardly" means, don't you?

Maybe you don't.

Talk about a "no-brainer".

Arny Krueger

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Sep 10, 2002, 10:51:59 AM9/10/02
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"dave weil" <dw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Weil if you had something to say, you'd say it.

> Maybe you don't.

Yawn!

> Talk about a "no-brainer".

Weil, you are just a waiter, trapped in a dead-end job as a common
laborer due to your lack of training and credentials, an intellectual
insect who fills his life with the tiny details, while damning the
people who see the big picture.


dave weil

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Sep 10, 2002, 11:07:29 AM9/10/02
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:51:59 GMT, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
wrote:

>"dave weil" <dw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:5h1snuoimecbgg15h...@4ax.com
>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:30:22 GMT, "Arny Krueger"
>> <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Surf" <fug...@about.it> wrote in message
>>> news:3D7DFAC0...@about.it
>>>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If that isn't one of sockpuppet "Yustabe's" stupid childish
>>>>> posts, what is?
>>>>> See folks what I mean about sockpuppet "Surf's" posts being
>>>>> written by the same person as posts as sockpuppet "Yustabe's"
>>>>> Same childish tone, same simplistic mind.
>>>
>>>> Now we have you playing the IKYABWAI game.
>
>>> Not hardly. You know what I am - a real person who does no
>>> sockpuppets.
>
>> You *do* know what "not hardly" means, don't you?
>
>Weil if you had something to say, you'd say it.

OK, then let me "school" you. It's a double negative. The not negates
the ahrdly. so what you actually said was, "Correct".

>> Maybe you don't.
>
>Yawn!

Yeah, must be boring sitting around the house pretending to be
working.

>> Talk about a "no-brainer".
>
>Weil, you are just a waiter, trapped in a dead-end job as a common
>laborer due to your lack of training and credentials, an intellectual
>insect who fills his life with the tiny details, while damning the
>people who see the big picture.

Now I *know* I've touched a nerve.

<guffaw!>

Arny Krueger

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Sep 10, 2002, 3:10:06 PM9/10/02
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"dave weil" <dw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:51:59 GMT, "Arny Krueger"
> <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>> "dave weil" <dw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:5h1snuoimecbgg15h...@4ax.com
>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:30:22 GMT, "Arny Krueger"
>>> <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Surf" <fug...@about.it> wrote in message
>>>> news:3D7DFAC0...@about.it
>>>>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that isn't one of sockpuppet "Yustabe's" stupid childish
>>>>>> posts, what is?
>>>>>> See folks what I mean about sockpuppet "Surf's" posts being
>>>>>> written by the same person as posts as sockpuppet "Yustabe's"
>>>>>> Same childish tone, same simplistic mind.
>>>>
>>>>> Now we have you playing the IKYABWAI game.
>>
>>>> Not hardly. You know what I am - a real person who does no
>>>> sockpuppets.
>>
>>> You *do* know what "not hardly" means, don't you?
>>
>> Weil if you had something to say, you'd say it.
>
> OK, then let me "school" you. It's a double negative. The not
> negates the hardly. so what you actually said was, "Correct".

>
>>> Maybe you don't.
>>
>> Yawn!
>
> Yeah, must be boring sitting around the house pretending to be
> working.
>
>>> Talk about a "no-brainer".
>>
>> Weil, you are just a waiter, trapped in a dead-end job as a
>> common laborer due to your lack of training and credentials, an
>> intellectual insect who fills his life with the tiny details,
>> while damning the people who see the big picture.
>
> Now I *know* I've touched a nerve.

Not at all Weil. What you did is stick out your hand and I gave you a
load of the err, *substance* that you were *asking* for.


dave weil

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Sep 10, 2002, 3:43:17 PM9/10/02
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:10:06 GMT, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
wrote:

Yep, I know for sure that I've irritated our favorite Mr. Mom.

sockpuppet "Yustabe"

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Sep 10, 2002, 8:10:48 PM9/10/02
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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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What happens when you search for sockpuppet Yustabe?


sockpuppet "Yustabe"

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Sep 10, 2002, 8:13:18 PM9/10/02
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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> Weil, you are just a waiter, trapped in a dead-end job as a common
> laborer due to your lack of training and credentials, an
intellectual
> insect who fills his life with the tiny details, while damning the
> people who see the big picture.
>
>

I wish I knew what Arny's favorite restaurant was.
I would let the waiters there know about his attitude.
Then I would watch to see the hot coffee 'accidentally spilled on his
lap.


tor b

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Sep 10, 2002, 8:28:44 PM9/10/02
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>From: "Arny Krueger" ar...@hotpop.com
>Date: 9/10/2002 5:11 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <hzjf9.307$Xf1.20...@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>
Huh? I get two listings:

Albertz, Thomas C and Kathy

and

Albertz, Kathy Rl Est

Both in Ft. Collins, CO.


tor b

Surf

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Sep 10, 2002, 10:02:29 PM9/10/02
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tor b wrote:
>
> Huh? I get two listings:
>
> Albertz, Thomas C and Kathy
> and
> Albertz, Kathy Rl Est
> Both in Ft. Collins, CO.


good strategy, making yourself look dummmmer, numbnuts.

tor b

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Sep 10, 2002, 11:49:37 PM9/10/02
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>From: Surf fug...@about.it
>Date: 9/10/2002 9:02 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3D7EA425...@about.it>
Clueless asshole..


tor b

Arny Krueger

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Sep 11, 2002, 6:06:18 AM9/11/02
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"tor b" <torre...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Unreliable database. I now obtain those results as well.


Surf

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Sep 11, 2002, 10:40:04 AM9/11/02
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tor b wrote:

::nothing, and then signed it:

> Clueless asshole..

Jamie Benchimol

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Sep 12, 2002, 10:33:39 PM9/12/02
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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:jGnf9.3$jm3.6...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...

Let's put aside the absence of value in everything you just said, and
talk for a moment about what -you- are. You are just a loser on
welfare, with a wife suffering from crippling arthritis, who works her
back off to take care of things around the house, while her husband
(that's you), sits around all day in his underwear munching on
Cheetios, as he reads and writes zillions of pointless, abusive
attacks on people on Usenet, 180 times over in a day, 19 hours a day
on average. All for the holy cause of your "objectivist audio
religion". You have NO job to be "trapped in" to begin with. As for
your alleged "training and credentials" as an "audio engineer", you
have done NOTHING with them of note in your lifetime. When I asked you
to cite your audio patents recently to prove your mettle as an audio
engineer, you ran under your couch. You have proven yourself to be an
"intellectual insect" about a thousand times over, in these flame wars
you engage in. With me, with Weil, with North, with Middius, with
everyone I've seen you take on.

You've both done and said more stupid things than anyone else in the
history of this group. Even including your sidekick Ferstler, who
seems to be hot on your heels to beat your record. But he can't,
because in sheer volume of verbal diahrrea, this is where you have
everyone beat. In debates with "real engineers", like Paul Bamborough
or Glenn Zelniker, you've had your arse handed to you on a plate, and
have been exposed as the subpar amateur that you are. You, more than
anyone here, FILLS your life with "tiny details", while damning people
who see the big picture. There are thousands of examples of this, but
I can cite one example from today. You make a demand for my personal
home address, I supply yours, including other contact information like
your email address. You prove to everyone that you're much too stupid
to see the "big picture", ie. the humor of my response, so you go off
on one of your ballistic rants about me being "delusional", claiming
that you think I'm you.

Everyone else here who has half a head on their shoulder, can see this
was humor, except a paranoid nutcase like yourself. Who is so insane,
he thinks everyone else around him must also be insane! You post two
more messages on the subject, and point out trivial little details,
like the fact that the copmany behind one of those email addresses I
posted was now bankrupt. And you actually go so far as to call me a
"dunce" because one of the email addresses I post is not operational,
and you blow up the issue as though it were the greatest revelation
ever told since the parting of the red sea. So that's one picture of
you "filling your life with tiny details", while "damning people who
see the big picture". Be careful when you point a finger at someone
Krazy Kruger. You'll have three more fingers pointing back at you.

Arny Krueger

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"Jamie Benchimol" <falu...@vajraguru.com> wrote in message
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> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:jGnf9.3$jm3.6...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...

> Let's put aside the absence of value in everything you just said,


> and talk for a moment about what -you- are. You are just a loser
> on welfare,

This is a lie. My wife and I are completely self-supporting. We
receive no public assistance. We are both gainfully employed.

>with a wife suffering from crippling arthritis,

My wife's rheumatoid arthritis is in remission because of drug
therapy. She takes Enbrel, http://www.enbrel.com , Methothrexate, and
Celebrex. If you wish to talk to her at her place of business you can
call 313 881 3460.

>who > works her back off to take care of things around the house,
while
> her husband (that's you), sits around all day in his underwear

> munching on Cheetios (sic), as he reads and writes zillions of


> pointless, abusive attacks on people on Usenet, 180 times over in
> a day, 19 hours a day on average.

More lies.

>All for the holy cause of your
> "objectivist audio religion". You have NO job to be "trapped in"
> to begin with.

I do feel a bit tied to my job because some of it involves servicing
people whose businesses would suffer significant financial losses if
I didn't service them in a timely business, but I don't feel trapped.
I like what I do.

>As for your alleged "training and credentials" as
> an "audio engineer", you have done NOTHING with them of note in
> your lifetime.

I believe that it is well-known that in the opinion of what you call
real engineers like Jim Johnson, I have advanced the audio state of
the art by inventing ABX testing with a few of my friends. Other than
that, my technical contributions have been pretty average.


>When I asked you to cite your audio patents
> recently to prove your mettle as an audio engineer, you ran under
> your couch.

ABX was intentionally put in the public domain to foster the
advancement of science. It was a very conscious decision.

> You have proven yourself to be an "intellectual
> insect" about a thousand times over, in these flame wars you
> engage in. With me, with Weil, with North, with Middius, with
> everyone I've seen you take on.

Speaking of intellectual insects sockpuppet Benchimol, you've surely
named three of them - Weil, North and Middius. What have they done of
note? Do they even have any professional credentials? Heck, they
don't even post under their real names!

> You've both done and said more stupid things than anyone else in
> the history of this group. Even including your sidekick Ferstler,
> who seems to be hot on your heels to beat your record. But he

> can't, because in sheer volume of verbal diahrrea (sic), this is


where
> you have everyone beat.

Just guessing here Benchimol, but I'd bet that for the duration of
your short presence on RAO, you've out-posted me every which way but
lose.

> In debates with "real engineers", like
> Paul Bamborough or Glenn Zelniker, you've had your arse handed to
> you on a plate, and have been exposed as the subpar amateur that
> you are.

These guys are sooooo afraid of me. It's fun to watch them walk
around RAO on little cat's feet hoping that I don't notice their
trivial efforts. Has Zelniker made 100 posts on RAO in his whole
life? What about RAHE and RAP? I still remember when someone had to
correct Zelniker about the meaning of the term "power spectral
density" or was it "Probability Density Function"? . This guy has a
PhD? Way too embarrassing! Then there is the incident where Paul
Bamborough was stymied by the technical challenge of hooking up a
surround receiver. He may be a great programmer, but even common
consumer audio hardware seems to be way beyond his grasp. LOL!

>You, more than anyone here, FILLS your life with "tiny
> details", while damning people who see the big picture.

Speaking of people who don't see the big picture sockpuppet
"Benchimol". What about your latest blustering attack on the
windmills of your mind, your silly assertion that DBTs aren't
subjective?

> There are
> thousands of examples of this, but I can cite one example from
> today. You make a demand for my personal home address, I supply
> yours, including other contact information like your email
> address. You prove to everyone that you're much too stupid to see

> the "big picture", ie (sic). the humor of my response, so you go


off on
> one of your ballistic rants about me being "delusional", claiming
> that you think I'm you.

That was just *humor* sockpuppet Benchimol. I believe I said that I
thought it was pretty funny, too. Of course your substitution of
humor for a meaningful response is typical of how you try to play
mind games instead of getting down to serious audio business. You
ain't got no audio game, sockpuppet Benchimol, and you really need to
face up to it. You've got just about everything wrong and/or missing
important pieces, including some of the personal information of mine
you've been spreading around. Things like email accounts on a
non-existent ISP, that was still wrong in other ways once I corrected
that.

> Everyone else here who has half a head on their shoulder, can see
> this was humor, except a paranoid nutcase like yourself. Who is
> so insane, he thinks everyone else around him must also be
> insane!

Where have I said that I think that everybody else is insane.
Sockpuppet Benchimol, haven't all sorts of independent people on the
other newsgroups you've dumped your garbage on told you they thought
you were insane and needed to "get help"? Isn't it true that you've
accused me of running sockpuppets, but you can't find even a drop of
evidence supporting that claim? Isn't it true that your "fireofjesu"
Usenet posting account was suspended because of your bad behavior?

>You post two more messages on the subject, and point out
> trivial little details, like the fact that the copmany behind one
> of those email addresses I posted was now bankrupt.

What's a "copmany" sockpuppet "Benchimol"?

LOL!

> And you
> actually go so far as to call me a "dunce" because one of the
> email addresses I post is not operational, and you blow up the
> issue as though it were the greatest revelation ever told since
> the parting of the red sea.

No, its just another example of how you can't get things right,
sockpuppet "Benchimol". You can't spell worth a hill of beans but you
are too arrogant to use a spell-checker. Or is that too "broke ass"?
We can trace you through your other sockpuppets by your spelling
errors, you nincompoop!

> So that's one picture of you
> "filling your life with tiny details", while "damning people who
> see the big picture". Be careful when you point a finger at
> someone Krazy Kruger. You'll have three more fingers pointing
> back at you.

No sockpuppet benchimol, I point them towards the ground so that you
look up at them and know where I am.


sockpuppet Yustabe

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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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>
> My wife's........ If you wish to talk to her at her place of

business you can
> call 313 881 3460.
>

You are so pathetic.


Glenn Zelniker

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Sep 13, 2002, 1:32:15 PM9/13/02
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Arny Krueger wrote:

> These guys are sooooo afraid of me. It's fun to watch them walk
> around RAO on little cat's feet hoping that I don't notice their
> trivial efforts. Has Zelniker made 100 posts on RAO in his whole
> life? What about RAHE and RAP?

I don't post much because it's not my life. I'm busy designing
audio gear for my company and for several other respected
companies.

> I still remember when someone had to
> correct Zelniker about the meaning of the term "power spectral
> density" or was it "Probability Density Function"? . This guy has a
> PhD? Way too embarrassing!

Just to clarify, that's not *quite* what happened. In point of
fact, Arny made the first error in
message <80uogc$2t6$1...@agate.berkeley.edu> when he said:

"Noise is usually characterized by both the PDF (Power
Density
Function) and the Spectral Density (SD)"

I corrected him in message <811s18$hop$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>

"Just to clarify, the PDF is not actually the Power Density
Function but
rather the *Probability Distribution* Function for the random
variable
that comprises the stochastic process we're using as the
noise signal.
Also, the SD is more commonly known as the Power Spectral
Density (the
PSD). The PSD is simply the Fourier transform of the
stochastic
process's autocorrelation sequence and gives the realtive
spectral
content of the stochastic process in question, as Arny
mentions above."

It turns out the "D" in PDF stands for density, not distribution.
A simple mistake. For confirmation that I *more* than understand
the distinction and that I didn't need help with the meaning of
the term, have a look at

http://www.dekker.com/servlet/product/productid/9145-2

Glenn Z

Arny Krueger

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Sep 13, 2002, 1:51:01 PM9/13/02
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"Glenn Zelniker" <gle...@z-sys.com> wrote in message
news:3D82211F...@z-sys.com

> Arny Krueger wrote:

>> These guys are sooooo afraid of me. It's fun to watch them walk
>> around RAO on little cat's feet hoping that I don't notice their
>> trivial efforts. Has Zelniker made 100 posts on RAO in his whole
>> life? What about RAHE and RAP?

> I don't post much because it's not my life.

Yes Dr. Zelniker, but John Atkinson has promised all of RAO that you
will partially replace me when I'm *gone*. Given that he's quite sure
I'm going to jail pretty soon, don't you think you should be getting
some practice right now?

;-)

>I'm busy designing
> audio gear for my company and for several other respected
> companies.

You kept your day job, too.

;-)

>> I still remember when someone had to
>> correct Zelniker about the meaning of the term "power spectral
>> density" or was it "Probability Density Function"? . This guy
>> has a PhD? Way too embarrassing!

> Just to clarify, that's not *quite* what happened. In point of
> fact, Arny made the first error in
> message <80uogc$2t6$1...@agate.berkeley.edu> when he said:

> "Noise is usually characterized by both the PDF (Power
> Density
> Function) and the Spectral Density (SD)"

> I corrected him in message <811s18$hop$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>

> "Just to clarify, the PDF is not actually the Power Density
> Function but
> rather the *Probability Distribution* Function for the random
> variable
> that comprises the stochastic process we're using as the
> noise signal.
> Also, the SD is more commonly known as the Power Spectral
> Density (the
> PSD). The PSD is simply the Fourier transform of the
> stochastic

> process's autocorrelation sequence and gives the realtive (sic)


> spectral
> content of the stochastic process in question, as Arny
> mentions above."

> It turns out the "D" in PDF stands for density, not distribution.
> A simple mistake.

Well Dr, Zelniker, I don't have a PhD. You do. You are supposed to be
that much better than I am.

I just made a simple mistake, but given my natural inferiority, I'm
authorized to make mistakes.

OTOH Dr. Zelniker, you are a high-and-mighty-PhD. A writer of
textbooks and DSP programming. You're supposed to know better. Day,
night and all the times in-between.

But what have we here?

A simple mistake!

My goodness, now how did that happen

>or confirmation that I *more* than understand
> the distinction and that I didn't need help with the meaning of
> the term, have a look at

> http://www.dekker.com/servlet/product/productid/9145-2

Obviously written with sufficient support from others so that "simple
mistakes" did not mar the veneer of expertise. But it looks like a
fun night's read. I have one on order.

;-)

When you grow sufficient manhood to do the day-to-day work that I do
Dr. Zelniker, I'll be here to watch, Atkinson's sockpuppets
notwithstanding.

LOL!

Glenn Zelniker

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Sep 13, 2002, 3:23:58 PM9/13/02
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Arny Krueger wrote:

> When you grow sufficient manhood to do the day-to-day work that I do
> Dr. Zelniker, I'll be here to watch, Atkinson's sockpuppets
> notwithstanding.

You consider what you do from day to day "work?" You've *got* to
be joking. You spend hour after hour, day after day, month after
month, and year after year arguing over utter *nonsense* on
usenet and digging up URLs on the web to support the myriad
indefensible semantic wars in which you are constantly embroiled.

I have a simple question for you. Do you equate your volume of
usenet output with productivity?

GZ

Philip Franklin

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Sep 13, 2002, 3:36:23 PM9/13/02
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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:<9_ig9.12$6t...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>...

> > In debates with "real engineers", like
> > Paul Bamborough or Glenn Zelniker, you've had your arse handed to
> > you on a plate, and have been exposed as the subpar amateur that
> > you are.
>
> These guys are sooooo afraid of me. It's fun to watch them walk
> around RAO on little cat's feet hoping that I don't notice their
> trivial efforts. Has Zelniker made 100 posts on RAO in his whole
> life? What about RAHE and RAP?

I don't get what you're saying, really. Why is it important how many
posts he made? How many have you made? Do you get paid by the post?

After I saw this post, I searched for "Glenn Zelniker." Know what I
found? He's got his own company that makes mastering equipment for
studios. I think that might explain why he has "only" 100 posts.

Also, why do you think anybody is afraid of you?


PF

sockpuppet Yustabe

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Sep 13, 2002, 4:08:03 PM9/13/02
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"Glenn Zelniker" <gle...@z-sys.com> wrote in message
news:3D823B4E...@z-sys.com...

In case you haven't been watching, Arny has spent the past three
weeks totally discrediting himself with attacks against his imaginary
sockpuppet enemies, controlled by two masterminds of evil. And
before that, he instigated shameless allegations against a number of
by wildly alleging that at least six people had sent him email
containing
child pornography. Furthermore, he threatened to file police
complaints against them. Many have seriously questioned his sanity.

Nobody of any consequence takes him seriously anymore, and
hardly any of them will even talk to him. I am surprised that you
have, though you were only responding to one of his incessant trolls.
I suggest that you not worry about him, nobody takes his lies
and insults with any degree of seriousness. He has managed to
reduce himself to a ridiculous joke. He is no longer potent
enough to do any harm to your reputation.


Joe Duffy

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Sep 13, 2002, 4:42:59 PM9/13/02
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In article <3d824...@corp-news.newsgroups.com>,

sockpuppet Yustabe <idk...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Nobody of any consequence takes him seriously anymore, and

LOL!
You mean, no one who posts on this newsgroup.
Or possibly you mean yourself. Hahahahahahahahahah.

>reduce himself to a ridiculous joke. He is no longer potent
>enough to do any harm to your reputation.
>

This was a ludicrous notion to begin
with.


Joe

Arny Krueger

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Sep 13, 2002, 4:54:17 PM9/13/02
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"Glenn Zelniker" <gle...@z-sys.com> wrote in message
news:3D823B4E...@z-sys.com...

<delete usual Zelniker childish posturing>

> I have a simple question for you. Do you equate your volume of
> usenet output with productivity?

Absolutely not!


Leon North

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Sep 13, 2002, 5:00:24 PM9/13/02
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Philip Franklin wrote:

Turdy's Truths [tm] shield him from the harsh reality. He lives in a tiny Michigan theme park known as
Turdy's World.

LN

"Nothing is real" -- DS

Arny Krueger

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Sep 13, 2002, 5:01:36 PM9/13/02
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"Philip Franklin" <PhilFr...@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:45f8f296.02091...@posting.google.com...

> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:<9_ig9.12$6t...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>...
>
> > > In debates with "real engineers", like
> > > Paul Bamborough or Glenn Zelniker, you've had your arse handed
to
> > > you on a plate, and have been exposed as the subpar amateur
that
> > > you are.

> > These guys are sooooo afraid of me. It's fun to watch them walk
> > around RAO on little cat's feet hoping that I don't notice their
> > trivial efforts. Has Zelniker made 100 posts on RAO in his whole
> > life? What about RAHE and RAP?

> I don't get what you're saying, really. Why is it important how
many
> posts he made?

Middius and Atkinson seem to think that if Zelniker posts on RAO, it
will be like the second coming...

>How many have you made?

Lots

> Do you get paid by the post?

Of course not.


> After I saw this post, I searched for "Glenn Zelniker." Know what
I
> found? He's got his own company that makes mastering equipment for
> studios. I think that might explain why he has "only" 100 posts.


> Also, why do you think anybody is afraid of you?

Because John Atkinson says that I'm the only thing standing in the
way of luminaries like Zelniker from posting on RAO.

Leon North

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Sep 13, 2002, 5:30:20 PM9/13/02
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Joe Duffy wrote:

Bingo!

Paul B

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Sep 13, 2002, 5:39:36 PM9/13/02
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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote...

.. yet again breaking his word that he would not attack those who
didn't attack him. Please stop doing this, Krüger: you are
presenting yourself as an unpleasant, dishonest man. You are also
wasting your time, because I have absolutely no interest in discussing
anything with you. Of course I am not afraid of you: I simply have no interest
in you.


> These guys are sooooo afraid of me. It's fun to watch them walk
> around RAO on little cat's feet hoping that I don't notice their
> trivial efforts. Has Zelniker made 100 posts on RAO in his whole
> life? What about RAHE and RAP? I still remember when someone had to
> correct Zelniker about the meaning of the term "power spectral
> density" or was it "Probability Density Function"? . This guy has a
> PhD? Way too embarrassing! Then there is the incident where Paul
> Bamborough was stymied by the technical challenge of hooking up a
> surround receiver. He may be a great programmer, but even common
> consumer audio hardware seems to be way beyond his grasp. LOL!

And please stop flogging this dead horse, which never lived in the first place and
which you have tried to resuscitate about a dozen times. The problem I described
with hooking-up subwoofers to receivers is nothing to do with me, but a result of a
mistake in the design of the systems. I quickly found this out once I
researched the problem, which was new to me at the time. I then designed my
own answer. There are in fact no *direct* answers to the problem I described: none
of those I was given on the group was useful in my context, and several of them
were incorrect in all contexts.

p


Leon North

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Sep 13, 2002, 5:38:21 PM9/13/02
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Turdy responds to a trick question:

> "Glenn Zelniker" <gle...@z-sys.com> wrote in message
> news:3D823B4E...@z-sys.com...
>

> > I have a simple question for you. Do you equate your volume of
> > usenet output with productivity?
>
> Absolutely not!

Ouch! Turdy, you just slipped on a big bar of soap. Think of all
of those things you could have accomplished instead. See why you
are a nobody? Tsk, tsk, tsk

Leon North

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Sep 13, 2002, 5:45:06 PM9/13/02
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Turdy spins some new Truths (tm):

> > Also, why do you think anybody is afraid of you?
>
> Because John Atkinson says that I'm the only thing standing in the
> way of luminaries like Zelniker from posting on RAO.

That's not fear, Turdy. It's the same reason one wouldn't pet a
skunk. Something called 'common sense'.

LN

"For every logical sane thing you say, Arnie will come back with at
least one, and usually two or three stark-raving tangential, illogical,
insane responses." mmg - psych

George M. Middius

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Sep 13, 2002, 6:05:49 PM9/13/02
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Leon North said to Shit-for-Brains:

> Turdy spins some new Truths (tm):
>
> > > Also, why do you think anybody is afraid of you?
> >
> > Because John Atkinson says that I'm the only thing standing in the
> > way of luminaries like Zelniker from posting on RAO.
>
> That's not fear, Turdy. It's the same reason one wouldn't pet a
> skunk. Something called 'common sense'.

I was at the vet's today and I noticed a bottle of "Skunk Off" on
the shelf. Now when they come up with "Borg Off", that'll be a
breakthrough.

ScottW

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Sep 13, 2002, 6:08:28 PM9/13/02
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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:<9_ig9.12$6t...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>...

>
> These guys are sooooo afraid of me. It's fun to watch them walk
> around RAO on little cat's feet hoping that I don't notice their
> trivial efforts. Has Zelniker made 100 posts on RAO in his whole
> life? What about RAHE and RAP? I still remember when someone had to
> correct Zelniker about the meaning of the term "power spectral
> density" or was it "Probability Density Function"? . This guy has a
> PhD? Way too embarrassing! Then there is the incident where Paul
> Bamborough was stymied by the technical challenge of hooking up a
> surround receiver. He may be a great programmer, but even common
> consumer audio hardware seems to be way beyond his grasp. LOL!
>

Put a sock in it Arny. Stupidest crap you ever posted.

You're gloating that you ran these guys and left RAO to the
benchimols of the world! Really fuckin intelligent, Arny. Way to
go. I am so impressed.

dumbshit.

Is there anyone in the world who can convince you you're wrong on
this? Just curious.

ScottW

sockpuppet Yustabe

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Sep 13, 2002, 6:20:12 PM9/13/02
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"Joe Duffy" <du...@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> wrote in message
news:H2E9J...@news.boeing.com...

> In article <3d824...@corp-news.newsgroups.com>,
> sockpuppet Yustabe <idk...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >Nobody of any consequence takes him seriously anymore, and
>
> LOL!
> You mean, no one who posts on this newsgroup.
> Or possibly you mean yourself. Hahahahahahahahahah.
>

I mean professional audio engineers, most of whom are
objectivists. In case you can't figure it out, that's people
on your side of the fence.


> >reduce himself to a ridiculous joke. He is no longer potent
> >enough to do any harm to your reputation.
> >
>
> This was a ludicrous notion to begin
> with.
>

I concede that at one time Arny may have had some amount
of respect among his kind. He has none now, at least among
the professional engineers of any stature within the audio
community. Now, his only followers are a ragtag bunch of
amateurs, wannabees, and dufusses.

sockpuppet Yustabe

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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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Get the picture Philip? He's nuts.


sockpuppet Yustabe

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Sep 13, 2002, 6:29:59 PM9/13/02
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"ScottW" <Scot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It's just basic insecurity. He feels he has to be the
best engineer on the block, so he runs off anyone he feels
is smarter, more qualified, and a threat to his pre-eminency.
But I've never before seen anyone take it to the extreme,
like Arny does.


Leon North

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Sep 13, 2002, 6:41:33 PM9/13/02
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"George M. Middius" wrote:

"Borg Off" can be found on the first page of the Borga Sutra. The
remaining pages each say, "Cycle again as needed."

Jamie Benchimol

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Sep 14, 2002, 4:38:42 AM9/14/02
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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:9_ig9.12$6t...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...

> "Jamie Benchimol" <falu...@vajraguru.com> wrote in message
> news:c1bb3f4.02091...@posting.google.com
>
> > "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> > news:jGnf9.3$jm3.6...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
>
> > Let's put aside the absence of value in everything you just said,
> > and talk for a moment about what -you- are. You are just a loser
> > on welfare,
>
> This is a lie. My wife and I are completely self-supporting. We
> receive no public assistance. We are both gainfully employed.

Sure you are. <wink> In between slandering people every 5 minutes
until you go beddy-byes at 12:30a, I'm sure you're making a lot of
international business deals.



> >with a wife suffering from crippling arthritis,
>
> My wife's rheumatoid arthritis is in remission because of drug
> therapy. She takes Enbrel, http://www.enbrel.com , Methothrexate, and
> Celebrex. If you wish to talk to her at her place of business you can
> call 313 881 3460.

I don't want to bother her at work, I think I'll email her about it to
confirm. Please give me her email address. You can email it to me if
you'd prefer. I'm sure you don't have a problem with that since you
gave me her phone no.



> >who > works her back off to take care of things around the house,
> while
> > her husband (that's you), sits around all day in his underwear
> > munching on Cheetios (sic), as he reads and writes zillions of
> > pointless, abusive attacks on people on Usenet, 180 times over in
> > a day, 19 hours a day on average.
>
> More lies.

No, those are facts. I've looked at how long and how often you post,
and can prove that you've reached those stats.



> >All for the holy cause of your
> > "objectivist audio religion". You have NO job to be "trapped in"
> > to begin with.
>
> I do feel a bit tied to my job because some of it involves servicing
> people whose businesses would suffer significant financial losses if
> I didn't service them in a timely business, but I don't feel trapped.
> I like what I do.

Yeah, I'm sure you have the ear of the CEO at Meryll Lynch. In the 2-5
minutes between each post you upload to Usenet, what exactly is it
that you do to "service people" that their "businesses would suffer
significant financial losses" if you didn't "service them" in a
"timely business" (whatever that means!)? This ought to be good.



> >As for your alleged "training and credentials" as
> > an "audio engineer", you have done NOTHING with them of note in
> > your lifetime.
>
> I believe that it is well-known that in the opinion of what you call
> real engineers like Jim Johnson, I have advanced the audio state of
> the art by inventing ABX testing with a few of my friends. Other than
> that, my technical contributions have been pretty average.

Pretty average? Pretty non-existent, more like. One of the many
interesting things I've learned about you, besides the fact that you
are a liar, a cheat and a pedophile, is that you are also a theif.
Meaning, you like to steal credit for other peoples ideas. You did
this with PCABX, you did this with ABX (where you claimed you were the
inventor of ABX, and that was disproven). Maybe, you thought up the
name during one of your SMWTWMS circle jerks.

Aside from the fact that Jim Johnston thinks you're the scum of the
ground, how has "ABX" advanced the audio state of the art? Take note:
I define the "state of the art" in audio as the ultimate in high
fidelity. Not the latest gee-whiz gadget to roll off the assembly line
in Japan. Thus, the SOTA (state of the art) will ALWAYS be the upper
crust of high end audio. Now exactly how has "ABX" advanced the SOTA
in high end audio?



> >When I asked you to cite your audio patents
> > recently to prove your mettle as an audio engineer, you ran under
> > your couch.
>
> ABX was intentionally put in the public domain to foster the
> advancement of science. It was a very conscious decision.

And yet all it has "fostered" is the advancement of decay on Usenet,
due to your thousands of hostile debates about ABX that keep springing
up like weeds. BTW, you are STILL hiding under your couch. You did NOT
invent "ABX" and even if you DID, it is NOT an audio product. Come out
and answer the question already. Since you keep trying to degrade REAL
engineers and other members of this group, and since you keep
insisting you are an "audio engineer" (which I have seen ZERO proof
of), WHAT audio patents do you hold after 40 years or so as an audio
engineer? I would like to verify this to see what you've done with
your life besides trying to demean other people for 6 years.



> > You have proven yourself to be an "intellectual
> > insect" about a thousand times over, in these flame wars you
> > engage in. With me, with Weil, with North, with Middius, with
> > everyone I've seen you take on.
>
> Speaking of intellectual insects sockpuppet Benchimol, you've surely
> named three of them - Weil, North and Middius. What have they done of
> note? Do they even have any professional credentials?

> Heck, they
> don't even post under their real names!

Do you have any factual evidence of that? Didn't think so. Nothing but
your usual crackpot conspiracy theories. Do you have proof of YOUR
professional credentials? Why do you keep asking people for evidence
you're not willing to provide?



> > You've both done and said more stupid things than anyone else in
> > the history of this group. Even including your sidekick Ferstler,
> > who seems to be hot on your heels to beat your record. But he
> > can't, because in sheer volume of verbal diahrrea (sic), this is
> where
> > you have everyone beat.
>
> Just guessing here Benchimol, but I'd bet that for the duration of
> your short presence on RAO, you've out-posted me every which way but
> lose.

I concur. I've done everything except lose. I left that to you
because, well, you're the expert at that.



> > In debates with "real engineers", like
> > Paul Bamborough or Glenn Zelniker, you've had your arse handed to
> > you on a plate, and have been exposed as the subpar amateur that
> > you are.
>
> These guys are sooooo afraid of me. It's fun to watch them walk
> around RAO on little cat's feet hoping that I don't notice their
> trivial efforts.

If you think anyone's doing anything but laughing at you saying this,
you're sorely mistaken. You're such a gutless coward Arny, even an ant
wouldn't be afraid of you. Don't confuse people being disgusted with
you and sick of you to be "afraid" of you. You are the same mental
case who said that because I hadn't posted again to RAHE after 3
hours, it meant that I could not. The only "trivial efforts" has been
your output on Usenet the last six years. Sorry that you're either too
stupid or too delusional to see that.

> Has Zelniker made 100 posts on RAO in his whole
> life? What about RAHE and RAP?

Even if that's correct, what's your point? That he has a life outside
of Usenet and is not a loser and failed engineer like you are, who has
nothing better to do than post to audio groups? The more you bring up
the subject of how "afraid" that real engineers are of you, the more
you drive the point home about how much they scare you witless. I
brought up the fact that in the debates you did have with real
engineers, you tanked, BIG TIME. They showed you what a subpar
ignorant amateur you are, next to a real audio engineer. That's in the
archives now for all time. Kinda blows you apart though, every time
you try to tell some newbie that you're an "audio engineer", when
"real" audio engineers and "real" scientists laugh at you.

> I still remember when someone had to
> correct Zelniker about the meaning of the term "power spectral
> density" or was it "Probability Density Function"? . This guy has a
> PhD? Way too embarrassing! Then there is the incident where Paul
> Bamborough was stymied by the technical challenge of hooking up a
> surround receiver. He may be a great programmer, but even common
> consumer audio hardware seems to be way beyond his grasp. LOL!

What's your point? That you can bring up a couple of instances where
you think someone has made an error and lie about them? 3 words Arny.
"Cool Edit Pro". Better still, one word Arny: "dither". I can do the
same thing too. In fact, I'm sure someone with a lot of time can bring
up literally HUNDREDS of technical gaffes that you made during your
debates, where you ended up with egg on your face. And I'm talking
about REAL gaffes, not lies that you've made up. I even have some from
my OWN experiences with you, such as when you were giving advice to
the owner of a high end pair of speakers (KEF 104) and you were
telling him that his KUBE was a SUBWOOFER! I can't believe how many
times you've made a complete fool out of yourself in your audio posts,
and yet you still persist.

> >You, more than anyone here, FILLS your life with "tiny
> > details", while damning people who see the big picture.
>
> Speaking of people who don't see the big picture sockpuppet
> "Benchimol". What about your latest blustering attack on the
> windmills of your mind, your silly assertion that DBTs aren't
> subjective?

Well, if you are now claiming that Dr. Floyd Toole himself made a
"silly assertion" that DBT's were not subjective tests, then you are
claiming that you are a greater authority than the pope of audio
himself. I think that says all we need to know about how irrational
that you are.

>
> > There are
> > thousands of examples of this, but I can cite one example from
> > today. You make a demand for my personal home address, I supply
> > yours, including other contact information like your email
> > address. You prove to everyone that you're much too stupid to see
> > the "big picture", ie (sic). the humor of my response, so you go
> off on
> > one of your ballistic rants about me being "delusional", claiming
> > that you think I'm you.
>
> That was just *humor* sockpuppet Benchimol.

On my part it was sockpuppet Krueger. On your part, it was a paranoid
ballistic RANT, where you were tearing your hair out and drooling spit
all over the keyboard.

> You've got just about everything wrong and/or missing
> important pieces, including some of the personal information of mine
> you've been spreading around.

Really? That's an interesting lie. What did I get wrong? Are you
saying my recon team is incompetent? Hell, most of the information I
got off your own web site! Are you saying you're lying to people on
your web site? Please clarify how "just about everything I wrote" was
wrong and just about everything was missing, and what "important
pieces" were missing?

If you run away from this request for clarification and stick your
head in the toilet to pretend I don't see you, you can believe me when
I say I will bring it up elsewhere again and again and again until you
answer for yourself.

> Things like email accounts on a
> non-existent ISP, that was still wrong in other ways once I corrected
> that.

Yeah, you already mentioned that. That was the ONLY thing you
mentioned that was incorrect, and you have yet to say what was
"missing". And that too was not "humor" on your part. You went ORBITAL
when you told me about some stupid little trivia fact about one of the
email addresses being defunct. LIKE WHO CARES, NUT JOB! That's just an
example of your narcissism Powell was writing about.



> > Everyone else here who has half a head on their shoulder, can see
> > this was humor, except a paranoid nutcase like yourself. Who is
> > so insane, he thinks everyone else around him must also be
> > insane!
>
> Where have I said that I think that everybody else is insane.

Obviously, you're too stupid to understand what I said. Follow the
bouncing ball, baby Krueger: my point is that everyone else can see
what I wrote was humor, except a whack job like you, who implied that
I was insane, by saying I was delusional and thought that I was you.
That was yet another example of sheer paranoia from you. Because you
couldn't see it was humor, you thought everyone else was a paranoid
nut case like yourself, and took it seriously.

> Sockpuppet Benchimol, haven't all sorts of independent people on the
> other newsgroups you've dumped your garbage on told you they thought
> you were insane and needed to "get help"?

> Isn't it true that you've
> accused me of running sockpuppets, but you can't find even a drop of
> evidence supporting that claim?

Oh, now THAT's rich! You've accused EVERYONE ON THE GROUP you don't
like of running sockpuppets or of ID theft, without even a DROP of
evidence supporting your claims!! Where is you facts, hypocrite? Are
you gonna clam up again and crawl back under your rock, like you do
every time I ask you to give me FACTS for all of your insane
conjecture?

> Isn't it true that your "fireofjesu"
> Usenet posting account was suspended because of your bad behavior?

Are we back to that again?! This is precisely what I mean by you
"filling your life with little details at the expense of the big
picture", which like everyone else, is something you accused someone
else of doing that YOU are guilty of. You said the same thing about my
"bewater" account, and I PROVED YOU WRONG by posting from it. Then I
asked you to apologize in all the threads you said the account was
suspended because of "bad behavior". WHERE ARE THE APOLOGIES KRUEGER?!
You ran away from the thread. Which you always do whenever I or
anyone else humiliates you by exposing your lies and insanity.



> >You post two more messages on the subject, and point out
> > trivial little details, like the fact that the copmany behind one
> > of those email addresses I posted was now bankrupt.
>
> What's a "copmany" sockpuppet "Benchimol"?
>
> LOL!

I don't get you. You laugh out loud every time someone writes a typo??
When you have typos, syntax and grammatical errors littering your
posts??! That is pretty darn pathetic Krueger. You sound like you're
hysterical. This is precisely what I mean by you "filling your life
with little details at the expense of the big picture", which like
everyone else, is something you accused someone else of doing that
YOU are guilty of.

> > And you
> > actually go so far as to call me a "dunce" because one of the
> > email addresses I post is not operational, and you blow up the
> > issue as though it were the greatest revelation ever told since
> > the parting of the red sea.
>
> No, its just another example of how you can't get things right,
> sockpuppet "Benchimol".

This is precisely what I mean by you "filling your life with little
details at the expense of the big picture", which like everyone else,
is something you accused someone else of doing that YOU are guilty
of. Like I said, you are the ONLY nutjob in the world who cares
whether or not the COPMANY behind that 3rd email address was bankrupt
or not. I certainly don't care, why do you think anyone else does?
Because you're a moron, that's why! As far as "can't get things
right", I could cite 10,000 examples of you not being able to "get
things right" off the top of my head. Starting with the fact that you
shouted from the rooftops that my "bewater" account had been
terminated for "illicit and illegal activities" and I posted from it
the other day, just to show what a stupid, lying sack of crap that you
are. Now compare THAT bomb to you saying that one of the emails I
listed was only an OLD address of yours and not current. Like WHO
CARES?!

> You can't spell worth a hill of beans but you
> are too arrogant to use a spell-checker.

This is precisely what I mean by you "filling your life with little
details at the expense of the big picture", which like everyone else,
is something you accused someone else of doing that YOU are guilty
of. You're the one who can't spell worth a "hill of beans" and people
keep rubbing your face in that fact. And this is AFTER you use a spell
checker! I've never used a spell-checker in my life and I could care
less to do so. If you don't like seeing occasional typos, don't read
my posts. But then, don't read YOURS either, because they contain more
of them, moron! What the hell do you think we're doing here anyway,
writing articles for the NY Times?! You're an absolute mental case,
you know that.

> We can trace you through your other sockpuppets by your spelling
> errors, you nincompoop!

So according to you, everyone who misspells a word must be me, because
you saw me misspell a word? And you still wonder why people say you're
insane? Using your "Kroo-logic", everyone who misspells a word must be
a sockpuppet of YOURS, since your posts are riddled with spelling
errors. So, mystery solved, sockpuppet Krueger!



> > So that's one picture of you
> > "filling your life with tiny details", while "damning people who
> > see the big picture". Be careful when you point a finger at
> > someone Krazy Kruger. You'll have three more fingers pointing
> > back at you.
>
> No sockpuppet benchimol, I point them towards the ground so that you
> look up at them and know where I am.

Ha!Ha!Ha! Now at the end of this post I am 100% SURE you failed to
take your medication today and your delusions of grandeur are in full
force! You keep thinking that little Krueger, and pay no mind to all
the folks laughing at you.

Arny Krueger

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> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> > "Jamie Benchimol" <falu...@vajraguru.com> wrote in message
> > news:c1bb3f4.02091...@posting.google.com

> > > "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> > > news:jGnf9.3$jm3.6...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...

> > > Let's put aside the absence of value in everything you just
said,
> > > and talk for a moment about what -you- are. You are just a
loser
> > > on welfare,

> > This is a lie. My wife and I are completely self-supporting. We
> > receive no public assistance. We are both gainfully employed.

<snip usual sockpuppet Benchimol childish posturing>

> > >with a wife suffering from crippling arthritis,

> > My wife's rheumatoid arthritis is in remission because of drug
> > therapy. She takes Enbrel, http://www.enbrel.com , Methothrexate,
and
> > Celebrex. If you wish to talk to her at her place of business you
can
> > call 313 881 3460.

> I don't want to bother her at work, I think I'll email her about it
to
> confirm. Please give me her email address. You can email it to me
if
> you'd prefer. I'm sure you don't have a problem with that since you
> gave me her phone no.

So you are worried that there is a trace on her work phone to catch
you, eh sockpuppet "Benchimol"?

LOL!

<snip usual sockpuppet Benchimol childish posturing>


Jamie Benchimol

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>
> "Jamie Benchimol" <falu...@vajraguru.com> wrote in message
> news:c1bb3f4.02091...@posting.google.com...

>
> > "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:9_ig9.12$6t...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
>
> > > "Jamie Benchimol" <falu...@vajraguru.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c1bb3f4.02091...@posting.google.com
>
> > > > "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:jGnf9.3$jm3.6...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...


> > I don't want to bother her at work, I think I'll email her about it
> to
> > confirm. Please give me her email address. You can email it to me
> if
> > you'd prefer. I'm sure you don't have a problem with that since you
> > gave me her phone no.
>
> So you are worried that there is a trace on her work phone to catch
> you, eh sockpuppet "Benchimol"?

What part of "I don't want to bother your wife while she's busy at
work" are you having trouble with? Why do you think she wants someone
she doesn't know calling her up in the middle of her work day to ask
her whether its true or not that her rheumatoid arthritis is in
remission? And please explain to me why on earth would there be a
"trace" on your wife's work phone?? Have there been a lot of death
threats against her recently? Are the death threats related to you
perhaps? ;-) That might explain things! Just give me her email
address, I'm sure she'd appreciate that

If you don't want to give me her email address, at least give me a
good reason why not, because I can't think of one, since you gave me
her personal phone no. at work. That's usually considered to be a lot
more private, by "normal people standards". And if you won't give me
her email address, then I'll consider calling her at work. Perhaps you
can tell me what kind of work does she do? What's her position in her
company? That will help me decide whether or not I should try to
bother her during her work hours.

John Atkinson

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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> Middius and Atkinson seem to think that if Zelniker posts on RAO, it
> will be like the second coming...
>
> > why do you think anybody is afraid of you?
>
> Because John Atkinson says that I'm the only thing standing in the
> way of luminaries like Zelniker from posting on RAO.

128.

John Atkinson

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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> John Atkinson has promised all of RAO that you will partially replace
> me when I'm *gone*. Given that he's quite sure I'm going to jail
> pretty soon, don't you think you should be getting some practice right
> now? ;-)
>
> When you grow sufficient manhood to do the day-to-day work that I do
> Dr. Zelniker, I'll be here to watch, Atkinson's sockpuppets
> notwithstanding.

130.

George M. Middius

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Jamie Benchimol said:

> What part of "I don't want to bother your wife while she's busy at
> work" are you having trouble with?

If Krooger presses you on this, I suggest making the call. If you get
Susan on the phone, the question you want to ask is "Do you know your
husband refers to you as 'Kroobitch' on Usenet?"

Good idea, right Arnii? ;-)

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