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zzy...@hotmail.com

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Jan 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/17/99
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Two questions:

1. Do you believe that Salman Rushdie should be killed for what he wrote?

2. If you met him in the street, would you kill hom yourself?

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Smajlovic A

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Jan 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/18/99
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On 17 Jan 1999 zzy...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Date: 17 JAN 1999 08:43:09 -0800
> From: zzy...@hotmail.com
> Newgroups: soc.religion.islam, soc.culture.pakistan, uk.religion.islam,
> alt.religion.islam
> Subject: To all Muslims regarding Rushdie

Yes, I believe he should be killed for what he wrote
Yes, I would kill him if I see him in the street.

mva...@my-dejanews.com

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Jan 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/18/99
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In article <77t3ut$fai$1...@waltz.rahul.net>,
zzy...@hotmail.com wrote:
Two questions:

1. Do you believe that Salman Rushdie should be killed for what he wrote?

No. He should continue to live fearing for his life every day, until
he and his supporters realize the futilitiy and stupidity of their
approach, and seek forgiveness for the same from the muslim ummah.

2. If you met him in the street, would you kill hom yourself?

No.

AbdulraHman Lomax

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Jan 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/20/99
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as-salamu 'alaykum

zzy...@hotmail.com wrote:

>Two questions:

Easy questions.

>1. Do you believe that Salman Rushdie should be killed for what he wrote?

No. I have previously, on this newsgroup, stated my views in detail on
the subject. The novel is commonly misunderstood and misrepresented.
It is about contemporary Muslims, not about the Prophet of Islam.
Rushdie is a satirist, and what he satirizes is the modern disaffected
Muslim; one of his characters is a nominally Muslim actor who is
actually quite insane; this man has dreams, and *of course* these
dreams have references in reality -- all dreams do. But the subject of
the book is not the historical realities on which the dreams are
based, but, instead, those who are dreaming. It's actually quite a
sophisticated book. Rushdie was naive, however, in not anticipating
the outraged response.

Given my first answer, my answer to the second question is obvious.
Naivete is not a capital crime, even though it can be fatal.


AbdulraHman Lomax
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El Verano, CA 95433
USA

AbdulraHman Lomax

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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as-salaamu ^alaykum.

Smajlovic A <sma...@server.uwindsor.ca> wrote:

>Yes, I believe he should be killed for what he wrote
>Yes, I would kill him if I see him in the street.

Since Smajlovic does not have a name recognisable as Muslim, did not
show any other sign of Islam in his response, I did a search on his
e-mail address on Dejanews. It does not appear that he has ever
written anything else on any newsgroup, or at least not from that
address.

However, I did find a single post from an A. Smajlovic, apparently
>from Toronto, Canada, from a different server. It had no apparent
connection with Islam.

While the name Smajlovic *might* be Bosnian -- I can't tell for sure
--, there is no particular reason to believe that the one who claims
to be ready to kill Salman Rushdie is actually a Muslim.

Ali

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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No to both. I believe it is no one's place to judge, let alone execute
other people. This is Allah's right alone.

--

Ali
<zzy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:77t3ut$fai$1...@waltz.rahul.net...
>Two questions:
>
>1. Do you believe that Salman Rushdie should be killed for what he wrote?


>
>2. If you met him in the street, would you kill hom yourself?
>

Kamal S.

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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>>1. Do you believe that Salman Rushdie should be killed for what he wrote?

I have not read the Satanic Verses. I am not going to support
killing a man for a book that I have not read, and indeed from the way it
was described I do not think that he was satyrising our blessed Prophet,
sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. So I would tend to agree with Abdul Rahman
who posted previously.

I have more views on this issue but the baove should suffice.

>>2. If you met him in the street, would you kill hom yourself?

No, I'd pimp slap him for being a twit, but kill him ? No.
Besides why would I help the enemies of Islam by killing Rushdie ?

The whole situation is odd from a social standpoint. The man
seemed to be a naive disaffected westernized man who is/was uncomfortable
with his culture and his (former) religion. This is found in many
Westernised "intelectuals" from the east. Read Daryush Shayegan's
"Cultural Schizophrenia" for an insight into this kind of neurosis, that
is found in both Rushdie (and his ilk) as well as in the people who are
screaming to kill him. This is really just about a clash of
civilizations, of worldviews in which one weltenschuung smashes into
another one, often inside the heads of a single individual.

Does this mean that I support him ? May Allah save me from that ! I do
not like Rushdie and I do not like his views, I am just pointing out that
there is a lot more at play here than meets the eyes. This is in regards
to the general situation and as to his book in specific, I have not read
it nor am I likely to read it since I have better things to spend my
precious time reading, like the Quran, Imam Ghazzali, and Phrack magazine
:-)
Rushide is way down my list, somewhere under Dennis Sobin and Larry Flint.

As to his apostacy, Allah guides who he wills and I am gratefull for
Allah's guidance. It is my hope that Allah guides Rushdie and if Rushdie
wants to die on his misguidance, well we all make our beds and we must all
sleep in them. May Allah increase our guidance and forgive us for our
crimes.

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