Animage-Top 100 animes
makotom...@my-deja.com
To celebrate the new century Animage listed the top 100 animes of
the previous century. I will provide a list of all the ones I can
identify and the numbers they were given. I will also describe some of
the ones I can and their numbers.
1. Hakujaden (Tale of the White Serpant), Movie, 1958.
2. Tetsuwan Atom, TV, 1963
3. Horus, Prince of the Sun, Movie, 1968. The first anime on the
list that Miyazaki was involved with.
4. Kumotochuribu. I have no idea what it is about dating from 1943.
It is the oldest anime on the list.
8. Ashita no Joe, TV, 1970
9. Lupin III, TV, 1971.
10. Gatchaman, TV, 1972.
11. Mazinger Z, TV, 1972.
13. Space Battleship Yamato, TV, 1974.
19. Spacde Battleship Yamato, movie, 1978.
20. Future Boy Conan, TV, 1978
22. Aim for the Ace, TV, 1979.
23. Akage no Anne, TV, 1979.
24. Mobile Suit Gundam, TV, 1979.
25. The Ideon Be Invoked, Movie, 1982
27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
28. Galaxy Express 999, Movie, 1979
29. Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro, Movie, 1979
30. Urusei Yatsura, TV, 1981
31. SDF Macross, TV, 1982
35. Daicon Films, 1983
38. Urusei Yatsura 2: Beutiful Dreamer, Movie, 1984
39. Macross: Do You Remember Love?, Movie, 1984
42. Wings of the Honnimise, Movie, 1987
43. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Movie, 1984
44. Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Movie, 1986
45. Tonari no Totoro, Movie, 1988
46. Grave of the Fireflies, Movie, 1988
47. Princess Mononoke, Movie, 1997
48. Dr. Slump, TV, 1981
49. Captain Tsubasa, TV, 1983
50. Fist of the Northstar, TV, 1984
51. Touch, TV, 1985
52. Dragonball, TV, 1986
53. Saint Seiya, TV, 1986
55. Yu Yu Hakusho, TV, 1992
56. Wicked City, OVA, 1987
57. Akira, Movie, 1988
58. Ghost in the Shell, Movie, 1995
60. Gubuster, OAV, 1988
61. Patlabor, OAV, 1988
62. Giant Robo, OAV, 1992
63. Tenchi Muyo, OAV, 1992
64. Ah Megami-sama, OAV, 1993
65. Patlabor 2:The Movie, Movie, 1993
66. Tokyo Babylon 2, OAV, 1994
67. Macross Plus, OAV, 1994
68. Memories, Movie, 1996
69. Mahou Tsukai Tai, OAV, 1996
70. Blue Submarine No.6, OAV, 1998
71. Sailor Moon, TV, 1992
72. Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water, TV, 1990
73. Crayon Shin-chan, TV, 1992
74. Mobile Suit G Gundam, TV, 1994
76. Mobile Suit Gundam Wing, TV, 1995
77. Kodomo no Omocha, TV, 1996
78. The Vision of Escaflowne, TV, 1996
79. Slayers Try, TV, 1997
80. Revolutionary Girl Utena, TV, 1997
82. Pokemon, TV, 1997
83. Cowboy Bebop, TV, 1998
85. Serial Experiments Lain, TV, 1998
88. Digimon: The Movie, Movie, 2000
89. Jin-Roh, Movie, 2000
90. Blood: The Last Vampire, Movie, 2000
91. Cardcapror Sakura, TV, 1998
93. Neon Genesis Evangelion, TV, 1995
94. HunterxHunter, TV, 1999
95. One Piece, TV, 1999
96. Detective Boy Conan, TV, 1996
97. Love Hina, TV, 2000
98. Sakura Taisen, TV, 2000
99. Martian Successor Nadesico, TV, 1996
100. Doremon, TV, 1979
What do you think of the list? Which animes do you feel were
neglected. IMO Original Dirty Pair, El Hazard OAV, Bubblegum Crisis
OAVs, Maison Ikkoku TV, and many others should have been
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makotom...@my-deja.com wrote:
> To celebrate the new century Animage listed the top 100 animes of
> the previous century. I will provide a list of all the ones I can
> identify and the numbers they were given. I will also describe some of
> the ones I can and their numbers.
Is this list sorted by descening order of the rank, or by just random
order? If it is descending order, I do not agree to some of them...
Hisashi
Slithy Tove
Comments:
1. Lots of missing numbers.
2. Very little shoujo, and no Rose of Versailles, which surprises me.
3. Heavily weighted with productions from recent years.
4. Can't figure out the order: it's almost chronological, but not
quite. Huh?
5. What does 'top' mean? Most sales? Highest viewership? Best, in the
editors' opinions?
6. 'Daicon Films'?
== Tove
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Hisashi Adachi
Slithy Tove <sli...@pobox.com> wrote:
> 6. 'Daicon Films'?
Daicon Films are the short opening animes for Osaka SF Conventions.
It was created by the members of General Products. At that time, Hideaki
Anno, Toshio Okada and Hiroyuki Yamaga were the members of GP. They
established GAINAX to create The Royal Space Force after that.
Japanese otakus still consider Daicon Films the best amateur animes.
Hisashi
Dan Helmick
Seems to be one of those lists assembled by a 10-year-old who's never seen 3/4
of the titles he names...
--
Duo Maxwell
> 10. Gatchaman, TV, 1972.
> 11. Mazinger Z, TV, 1972.
I have seen both of these as a kid!
True, they were the crappy US versions, but I saw them!
To think in the early to mid 80s, I was watching anime that was 10-15 years
old!
Maybe I can blame my geekdom on Go Nagai then...
> 24. Mobile Suit Gundam, TV, 1979.
Bitchin.
> 27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
I really liked it. Most US fans dont seem to acknowledge it exists.
> 28. Galaxy Express 999, Movie, 1979
Thought it was kinda boring. Didn't like the manga either.
(But then again, I seem to be the only person unimpressed with CLAMP..)
> 29. Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro, Movie, 1979
Miyazaki.. DUH!
And Lupin? Im surprised it isnt higher on the list...
> 30. Urusei Yatsura, TV, 1981
Only read a few mangas of it. I just don't like Takahshi's works very much.
Good in small doses, but..
> 31. SDF Macross, TV, 1982
Sweet. If hacked versions of Gatchaman brought me towards Otakudom, this
one
brought me into it completely.
> 35. Daicon Films, 1983
IIRC, this is the pre Gainax Gainax stuff right?
> 39. Macross: Do You Remember Love?, Movie, 1984
Even the crap version ruled. Now where the hell is a Region 1 uncut
subbed DVD? I want it yesterday.
(Its the only DVD that hasnt been made I really want.)
> 42. Wings of the Honnimise, Movie, 1987
I didn't really like it that much.
> 43. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Movie, 1984
> 44. Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Movie, 1986
> 45. Tonari no Totoro, Movie, 1988
> 46. Grave of the Fireflies, Movie, 1988
> 47. Princess Mononoke, Movie, 1997
Ghibli and or Miyazaki. DUH!!
(Dear Disney/Miramax: HURRY THE HELL UP!!)
> 48. Dr. Slump, TV, 1981
Ah, old school Toriyama. Wonder what all the DBZ N00bs would think of this
series?
Im kinda interested in seeing it myself..
> 50. Fist of the Northstar, TV, 1984
Only saw the movie and a couple of mangas.
Once the ultraviolence gets old, so does it.
> 52. Dragonball, TV, 1986
Hmmm.. while I prefer it vastly to Z, Z pretty much made a franchise out of
it.
(And just when is Funimation going to release eps 14-26 anyhow? I want to
see the
original Piccolo and the first appearance of Tienshinan..)
> 57. Akira, Movie, 1988
I kinda agree. It was epic in all senses.
I can hardly wait the upcoming B&W manga translations.
I havent had my fix of this man's work since Dark Horse cancelled
Legend of Mother Sarah...
> 58. Ghost in the Shell, Movie, 1995
I hated the manga, which is strange as I really like most of
Shirow's stuff. The movie didnt seem all that, so I never paid it
any mind.
> 60. Gubuster, OAV, 1988
Yeah, it belongs. It was pretty influential, overall.
Kind of a teenybopper version of Joe Haldeman's Forever War books though.
> 61. Patlabor, OAV, 1988
Patlabor? Hmm.. it is that well loved?
(CPM: DVDs of the TV series. NOW. Thank you.)
> 62. Giant Robo, OAV, 1992
Hmm.. it rules. CRUSH THEM NOW GIANT ROBO!!
> 63. Tenchi Muyo, OAV, 1992
Love the Tenchiverse.
> 64. Ah Megami-sama, OAV, 1993
See above. Love it. Mostly wholesome and sweet fun.
> 65. Patlabor 2:The Movie, Movie, 1993
Am I the only person who merely thinks it is cool?
I love seeing blimps with the PC Ultima logos on them and all, but
I prefer the funny OVA 2 series Patlabors. Drunken mecha pilots getting
chucked out of 2nd floor windows repeatedly is comedy gold I tell you!
> 67. Macross Plus, OAV, 1994
Sure. Now if we can just lock Harmony Gold's Lawyers in a closet someplace
so
I dont have to pay 75 bucks for the Valks from Hobby Link Japan. (And thats
almost
as cheap as us Gaijin can get them for!)
> 70. Blue Submarine No.6, OAV, 1998
I have been meaning to see this one. Now I think I have to get the
DVDs, eh?
> 71. Sailor Moon, TV, 1992
Generic anime saved by a wonderful overall theme and fantastic characters.
And 4 years after it was on US TV I still lust after Sailor Jupiter...
> 72. Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water, TV, 1990
One of these days I have got to see this one.
> 74. Mobile Suit G Gundam, TV, 1994
A show with such ridiculous ideas I have to see it.
And with Giant Robo staff on board...
> 76. Mobile Suit Gundam Wing, TV, 1995
My first fansubs were from this show.
Ah the memories. And if Bandai will hurry up the DVDs, I can finally finish
a
show I first watched in 1996..
> 78. The Vision of Escaflowne, TV, 1996
I loved it. Had to watch the last 4 tapes in 1 sitting. I was glued.
> 79. Slayers Try, TV, 1997
Am I the only person who dislikes the Slayers?
> 80. Revolutionary Girl Utena, TV, 1997
Hell yeah!
> 82. Pokemon, TV, 1997
Pokemon sucks. Nice Gameboy game, crap everything else.
> 83. Cowboy Bebop, TV, 1998
Next on my anime viewing plate.
> 85. Serial Experiments Lain, TV, 1998
Lain is on here too? Frickin sweet!
> 88. Digimon: The Movie, Movie, 2000
If it has mon in the name somewhere, I probably hate it.
> 91. Cardcapror Sakura, TV, 1998
If it is like every other CLAMP production, I wont like it.
> 93. Neon Genesis Evangelion, TV, 1995
93? This show belongs much higher up.
> 98. Sakura Taisen, TV, 2000
And Sega won't give us English speaking fans love by bringing the games
out over here. But we get Disney and Acclaim crap instead.
BOLLOCKS!!
> 99. Martian Successor Nadesico, TV, 1996
Another series I need to see.
> 100. Doremon, TV, 1979
Aint this like the Sesame Street level of kiddie influence in Japan?
It should be higher.
> What do you think of the list? Which animes do you feel were
> neglected. IMO Original Dirty Pair, El Hazard OAV, Bubblegum Crisis
> OAVs, Maison Ikkoku TV, and many others should have been.
Well, Dirty Pair and Bubblegum Crisis belong somewhere.
And I am surprised more Tekuza stuff isnt on the list.
And what about Area 88?
What is scary is that I have at least heard of most of these before.
And I thought I was growing out of my otakuness...
Duo Maxwell
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US anime popularity is not the same.
For example:
I love Patlabor.
Most US fans don't know what it even is.
(And now with the bandwagoners it is even worse.)
Considering I dislike Ranma 1/2, I am glad it isnt on there.
Dan Helmick
: I think this list is what Japan likes.
: US anime popularity is not the same.
I guess I could see that, given that there tends to be a short memory span for
anime product in Japan (DIRTY PAIR, for instance, seems to be all but unknown
there these days). Still, some clarification on the source of the list would
be nice.
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I know BGC OAV series was more popular over here in the US than it ever was
in Japan, so I can see why it wasn't on the list. Kinda suprised original
Dirty Pair didn't make Animage's list. To the Japanese, Maison Ikkoku I
think was more popular as a manga (Ranma also), than as an anime series.
Kinda weird that all of Gainax's stuff except Gunbuster showed up (FLCL and
Ebichu being to new, and probably too weird for Japanese viewers to show up)
and Honneamise actually made the list considering it bombed when it was
first released (of course, the list is probably revisionistic, considering
the anniversary showing of Honneamise was pretty popular).
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Dyson
> What do you think of the list? Which animes do you feel were
> neglected. IMO Original Dirty Pair, El Hazard OAV, Bubblegum Crisis
> OAVs, Maison Ikkoku TV, and many others should have been
Maybe they're amongst the twenty odd (24, if I counted right) missing
listings.
kunislayer shujo
favor old shit? I love the way the year of each production seems to ascend
almost systematically as you move further down the list. I'm surprised Mach
Go Go Go isn't in the Top 5.
Anyway, they included the Ghost in the Shell movie and Beautiful Dreamer,
and I'm afraid I've seen a lot of movies out there much better than these,
such as Mission to Mars, Dungeons & Dragons, The Blair Witch Project, Cool
as Ice, etc...
Along with that, they not only leave out Saber Marionette J, but also every
other Satoru Akahori production, which further invalidates any opinion
Animage could ever have. Unless Sakura Taisen TV was by Akahori (I know the
game was)... In that case never mind.
Grr. Me in bad mood today. Grr.. ^^;
Kuni
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makotom...@my-deja.com
No. They are not. The series I did not include are ones that I
had no idea what they were. They often included older series from the
60s-80s that will never be brought over to the United State
Arnold Kim
> the previous century. I will provide a list of all the ones I can
> identify and the numbers they were given. I will also describe some of
> the ones I can and their numbers.
>
>
> 1. Hakujaden (Tale of the White Serpant), Movie, 1958.
> 2. Tetsuwan Atom, TV, 1963
> 3. Horus, Prince of the Sun, Movie, 1968. The first anime on the
> list that Miyazaki was involved with.
> 4. Kumotochuribu. I have no idea what it is about dating from 1943.
> It is the oldest anime on the list.
> 8. Ashita no Joe, TV, 1970
> 9. Lupin III, TV, 1971.
Haven't heard of half of these.
> 10. Gatchaman, TV, 1972.
> 11. Mazinger Z, TV, 1972.
> 13. Space Battleship Yamato, TV, 1974.
Well, they're certainly influential, so they belong near the top. But I
think GUndam needs to be up there with them, instead of further down at 24.
> 27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
I really want to see this series...
> 28. Galaxy Express 999, Movie, 1979
> 29. Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro, Movie, 1979
Good choice.
> 38. Urusei Yatsura 2: Beutiful Dreamer, Movie, 1984
Mamoru Oshi's best work that I've seen, and definitely in my personal top
ten.
> 39. Macross: Do You Remember Love?, Movie, 1984
The first great anime movie I'd ever seen.
> 42. Wings of the Honnimise, Movie, 1987
> 43. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Movie, 1984
> 44. Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Movie, 1986
> 45. Tonari no Totoro, Movie, 1988
> 46. Grave of the Fireflies, Movie, 1988
> 47. Princess Mononoke, Movie, 1997
These six titles should be much higher, _especially_ the last two.
> 57. Akira, Movie, 1988
I've had mixed feelings about this film. Great visual imagery, but...
> 67. Macross Plus, OAV, 1994
One of the few sequel series outside of Gundam that's on par with the
original.
> 68. Memories, Movie, 1996
> 69. Mahou Tsukai Tai, OAV, 1996
> 70. Blue Submarine No.6, OAV, 1998
Interesting choice. I wouldn't have expected to see it here, but...
> 71. Sailor Moon, TV, 1992
Great characters and some phenomenal season ending story arcs have earned
the show its place on the list.
> 72. Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water, TV, 1990
> 73. Crayon Shin-chan, TV, 1992
> 74. Mobile Suit G Gundam, TV, 1994
> 76. Mobile Suit Gundam Wing, TV, 1995
I like the series, but looking at what's ranked below it, I don't think it
should be ranked at all. And you can't argue short memories by fans when
titles like Cowboy Bebop, Lain, and Neon Genesis Evangelion are clearly
better shows, and are as new or newer.
> 82. Pokemon, TV, 1997
> 88. Digimon: The Movie, Movie, 2000
And I got no idea what Pokemon and Digimon the movie are doing here. I like
both series but... And Digimon: The Movie isn't even the best example of
Digimon.
> What do you think of the list? Which animes do you feel were
> neglected. IMO Original Dirty Pair, El Hazard OAV, Bubblegum Crisis
> OAVs, Maison Ikkoku TV, and many others should have been.
My problem is more with where the "classics" are ranked rather than
omissions.
Arnold Kim
Animeg3282
> No. They are not. The series I did not include are ones that I
>had no idea what they were. They often included older series from the
>60s-80s that will never be brought over to the United State
AH! Can you inculde the missing listings or at least show us where we can find
them?
Hana no Kaitou
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K Lee
episode. Grow up in Hong Kong certainly help with the old shows.
Odd stuff includes: G Gundam but no Z or 0083? Also no LOGH, Kenshin
OVA or Perfect Blue.
Ronald Spillman
makotom...@my-deja.com wrote:
> To celebrate the new century Animage listed the top 100 animes of
> the previous century. I will provide a list of all the ones I can
> identify and the numbers they were given. I will also describe some of
> the ones I can and their numbers.
>
> 1. Hakujaden (Tale of the White Serpant), Movie, 1958.
To anyone who knows; Could this have been called "Panda
and the Magic Serpent" in the US? I have seen that, and the
dub, even tho' it was typical of the American International
dubs of the period (very early 60s), the production values were
stellar, IMO. From a historical standpoint (and seeing the list,
many of the top picks seem to have been chosen in that context),
I can see why it would have been at or near the top.
>
>
kewes
Isn't this some plotless violent show that gets made fun of all the
time?
> 70. Blue Submarine No.6, OAV, 1998
WTF!?!?!??!!?
> 82. Pokemon, TV, 1997
Wouldn't be so bad if you didn't know what came AFTER it.
> 83. Cowboy Bebop, TV, 1998
> 85. Serial Experiments Lain, TV, 1998
I guess animage doesn't see the need for groundbreaking series.
> 88. Digimon: The Movie, Movie, 2000
This is an awful movie and it is pretty low but guess what's lower...
> 93. Neon Genesis Evangelion, TV, 1995
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why ... so low...can someone explain the
Eva hatred?
> 100. Doremon, TV, 1979
Seeing as how animage seem to favor popular old series I can't believe
this was the lowest ranked.
=====
I think there was enough room for Perfect Blue on this list. I would
love to know what criteria it was based on.
Dan Helmick
: > 1. Hakujaden (Tale of the White Serpant), Movie, 1958.
: To anyone who knows; Could this have been called "Panda
: and the Magic Serpent" in the US? I have seen that, and the
: dub, even tho' it was typical of the American International
: dubs of the period (very early 60s), the production values were
: stellar, IMO. From a historical standpoint (and seeing the list,
: many of the top picks seem to have been chosen in that context),
: I can see why it would have been at or near the top.
Yes, it was also released internationally as THE WHITE SNAKE ENCHANTRESS. I
believe it was the first full-length animated feature made in Japan.
Incidentally, Kodocha is in the process of fansubbing it!
Dan
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makotom...@my-deja.com wrote:
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Pffft. About 75% of these titles are 90s anime. Where's Little Princess
Sara? Ribin no Kishi?
Jojo
Leaping Larry Jojo
"Arnold Kim" <ki...@erols.com> wrote:
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> <makotom...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> >
> > To celebrate the new century Animage listed the top 100 animes
of
> > the previous century. I will provide a list of all the ones I can
> > identify and the numbers they were given. I will also describe some
of
> > the ones I can and their numbers.
> >
> >
> > 1. Hakujaden (Tale of the White Serpant), Movie, 1958.
> > 2. Tetsuwan Atom, TV, 1963
> > 3. Horus, Prince of the Sun, Movie, 1968. The first anime on the
> > list that Miyazaki was involved with.
> > 4. Kumotochuribu. I have no idea what it is about dating from
1943.
> > It is the oldest anime on the list.
> > 8. Ashita no Joe, TV, 1970
> > 9. Lupin III, TV, 1971.
>
> Haven't heard of half of these.
>
Heard of all except number 4.
>
> > 27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
>
> I really want to see this series...
Personal favourite. Wonder how it got here, with its un-flashy designs
and animation. Ah well, it's all good.
>
> > 57. Akira, Movie, 1988
>
> I've had mixed feelings about this film. Great visual imagery, but...
First big "arthouse" success abroad. Based on impact, it deserves to be
SOMEWHERE on the list, spotty as the film may be,
>
> > 68. Memories, Movie, 1996
> > 69. Mahou Tsukai Tai, OAV, 1996
> > 70. Blue Submarine No.6, OAV, 1998
>
> Interesting choice. I wouldn't have expected to see it here, but...
>
Short memory syndrome. Next.
> > 71. Sailor Moon, TV, 1992
>
> Great characters and some phenomenal season ending story arcs have
earned
> the show its place on the list.
Influential and even a little bit innovative, combining magical girls
with sentai show sensibilities.
>
> > 82. Pokemon, TV, 1997
> > 88. Digimon: The Movie, Movie, 2000
>
> And I got no idea what Pokemon and Digimon the movie are doing here.
I like
> both series but... And Digimon: The Movie isn't even the best
example of
> Digimon.
>
We can make a case for Pokemon as the BIG international success, but
Digimon the movie? AHHHHHH....
> > What do you think of the list? Which animes do you feel were
> > neglected. IMO Original Dirty Pair, El Hazard OAV, Bubblegum Crisis
> > OAVs, Maison Ikkoku TV, and many others should have been.
>
> My problem is more with where the "classics" are ranked rather than
> omissions.
>
What about Rose of Versailles? Harlock? Several Masterpiece Theatre
shows? Geez, was Heidi on this list??
Jojo
Leaping Larry Jojo
Terrence Huey
> > 43. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Movie, 1984
> > 44. Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Movie, 1986
> > 45. Tonari no Totoro, Movie, 1988
> > 46. Grave of the Fireflies, Movie, 1988
> > 47. Princess Mononoke, Movie, 1997
>
> These six titles should be much higher, _especially_ the last two.
Actually, almost every single Nihonjin I've talked to about
Mononoke-hime did not like it. Nausicaa ranking the highest of
the Ghibli movies isn't a surprise though.
Anyway, as for neglected, I'm seriously disappointed that
Versailles no Bara and Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu (Rose of Versailles
and Legend of Galactic Heroes respectively) didn't make the
list, as they are perhaps the two -best-(tho not necessarily my
2 -favorite-) anime I've seen period.
-T
Avery Davies
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> In article <6MG86.23257$ag.7...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
> "Avery Davies" <read_si...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> > <makotom...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> > > 60. Gubuster, OAV, 1988
> > I know BGC OAV series was more popular over here in the US than it
> ever was
> > in Japan, so I can see why it wasn't on the list. Kinda suprised
> original
> > Dirty Pair didn't make Animage's list. To the Japanese, Maison Ikkoku
> I
> > think was more popular as a manga (Ranma also), than as an anime
> series.
> > Kinda weird that all of Gainax's stuff except Gunbuster showed up (
>
> Gunbuster is at number 60.
Well, I'll be snuckered. Teaches me not to use the Find feature on a
mis-spelt word ^_^
Avery Davies
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> > 50. Fist of the Northstar, TV, 1984
>
> Isn't this some plotless violent show that gets made fun of all the
> time?
You're getting the TV series confused with the movie.
Scott Fujimoto
a -little- influential.
(Gundam G got ranked higher than Eva. Somehow I find that
hilarious...)
--Scott
"I'm not going there to die. I'm going to see if I really am alive."
Hisashi Adachi
oob...@ripco.com (Dan Helmick) wrote:
> I guess I could see that, given that there tends to be a short memory span for
> anime product in Japan (DIRTY PAIR, for instance, seems to be all but unknown
> there these days). Still, some clarification on the source of the list would
> be nice.
This list has 90 most popular animes that the editors selected and top
10 animes that the readers voted for. The top 3 animes from the readers'
vote are,
1. CC Sakura
2. Sai-yu-ki
3. Evangelion
All of them are aired in 90s. Especially, Sai-yu-ki has been broadcasted
now. A lot of people, especially men, complain it is a crap...
Most readers of Animage are teen-agers, I guess. They are likely to vote
for recent animes. Other 90 animes the editors chose depend on their
preference and bias. They never miss Ghibli animes that their publishing
company sponsored :-)
Hisashi
Arnold Kim
Scott Fujimoto <scottf...@aol.comsv2> wrote in message
news:20010115224915...@ng-mm1.aol.com...
> Um... Where is Rose of Versailles? That show's been more than
> a -little- influential.
>
> (Gundam G got ranked higher than Eva. Somehow I find that
> hilarious...)
Hell, Digimon: The Movie beat out Evangelion. Try to figure that one out.
Arnold Kim
Tonberry
> 98. Sakura Taisen, TV, 2000
> 99. Martian Successor Nadesico, TV, 1996
> 100. Doremon, TV, 1979
>
Love Hina but no Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou? I mean, Love Hina is cute, but I
don't think it'll be anything to cheer about ten years down the line. If
we're talking about teenage love stories, I don't think you can get much
better than Kare Kano.
Led Mirage
>> 93. Neon Genesis Evangelion, TV, 1995
>
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why ... so low...can someone explain the
>Eva hatred?
Just be glad it actually has a rank. It sure doesn't deserve one. but
then a whole bunch of stuff shouldn't be on that list either.
Ethan Hammond
> 43. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Movie, 1984
> 44. Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Movie, 1986
> 45. Tonari no Totoro, Movie, 1988
> 46. Grave of the Fireflies, Movie, 1988
> 47. Princess Mononoke, Movie, 1997
> 49. Captain Tsubasa, TV, 1983
> 95. One Piece, TV, 1999
> 96. Detective Boy Conan, TV, 1996
> 98. Sakura Taisen, TV, 2000
> 99. Martian Successor Nadesico, TV, 1996
> 100. Doremon, TV, 1979
>
> neglected. IMO Original Dirty Pair, El Hazard OAV, Bubblegum Crisis
> OAVs, Maison Ikkoku TV, and many others should have been
No Irresponsible Captain Tylor. I would have put Slayers Next instead of
Slayers Try. Next is the best of the 3 seasons IMO. I also would have
put the Nuku Nuku OAVs. Probably Dragonball Z too.
--
All Purpose Cultural Randomness
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/apcr/index.html
Ethan Hammond
>
> No YAWARA *or* RANMA 1/2...
>
> Seems to be one of those lists assembled by a 10-year-old who's never seen 3/4
> of the titles he names...
Ranma 1/2 is all but forgotten in Japan. I don't think Yawara was that big either.
Urusei Yatsura is on the list and that is IMO Takahashi's best work.
Ethan Hammond
>
> one seems to be interested in old 80's "real robot" shows if they don't
> have the names Gundam or Macross stamped on them. I hear this one's an epic
> that gives Gundam a run for it's money.
I've been watching a little of it on the International Channel.
Its okay, but I am not really into mecha shows.
Bitch to your cable company or satillite provider until you get the
International Channel. :) They also show Irresponsible Captain Tylor
and Dragonball Z.
bebpo
not to mention the total absence of Rurouni Kenshin which as far as I
know seems to be a lot of peoples fave. You'd think it'd beat Digimon,
as someone else said, KareKano definately deserves a spot. I mean Blue
Sub was cool and all, but I don't think top100 material. What about
Berserk? I'd put that above digimon anyday. Someone once told me that
90% of anime in japan is watched mainly by children, that could explain
a lot of the choices on here.
--bebpo
Duo Maxwell
> > >
> > > What do you think of the list? Which animes do you feel were
> > > neglected. IMO Original Dirty Pair, El Hazard OAV, Bubblegum Crisis
> > > OAVs, Maison Ikkoku TV, and many others should have been
> >
> > Maybe they're amongst the twenty odd (24, if I counted right) missing
> > listings.
>
> No. They are not. The series I did not include are ones that I
> had no idea what they were. They often included older series from the
> 60s-80s that will never be brought over to the United State
Never say never.
Never coming over here used to be the domain of Gundam after all...
Duo Maxwell
"Terrence Huey" <th...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:YfP86.72$SO5.1...@news.pacbell.net...
> \> > 42. Wings of the Honnimise, Movie, 1987
> > > 43. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Movie, 1984
> > > 44. Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Movie, 1986
> > > 45. Tonari no Totoro, Movie, 1988
> > > 46. Grave of the Fireflies, Movie, 1988
> > > 47. Princess Mononoke, Movie, 1997
> >
> > These six titles should be much higher, _especially_ the last two.
>
> Actually, almost every single Nihonjin I've talked to about
> Mononoke-hime did not like it. Nausicaa ranking the highest of
> the Ghibli movies isn't a surprise though.
>
Mononoke was awesome!
I still prefer Totoro or Kiki's Delivery Service as Miyazaki works, but
they all rule.
(Grave of the Fireflies is the best, but its such a painful movie I
attempted to watch the
DVD after having seen it on IFC a few years back, I had to shut it off, or I
was going to
be crying like a baby... the ONLY movie to ever make me cry.)
Duo Maxwell
>
> > 27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
>
>
> I wish I could find this show for rent. Or even encoded versions of it. No
> one seems to be interested in old 80's "real robot" shows if they don't
> have the names Gundam or Macross stamped on them. I hear this one's an
epic
> that gives Gundam a run for it's money.
In 96-97, US Manga Corps released the whole series subbed.
Gundam 0079 is better, IMHO (At least the movie trilogy) but
Votoms is a kickass series. Very dark and grim most of the time.
I dunno if they plan on putting it out on DVD or not.
(Being that US anime fandom these days consists of teens who require dubs
only,
and want it free on TV..)
Simon Palko
"Dan Helmick" <oob...@ripco.com> wrote in message
news:93vb0u$20$1...@gail.ripco.com...
> Duo Maxwell (bloo...@dontspamme.com) wrote:
>
> : I think this list is what Japan likes.
> : US anime popularity is not the same.
>
> I guess I could see that, given that there tends to be a short memory span
for
> anime product in Japan (DIRTY PAIR, for instance, seems to be all but
unknown
> there these days). Still, some clarification on the source of the list
would
> be nice.
Did you miss this?
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:00:58 GMT
makotom...@my-deja.com wrote:
> To celebrate the new century Animage listed the top 100 animes of
> the previous century. I will provide a list of all the ones I can
> identify and the numbers they were given. I will also describe some of
> the ones I can and their numbers.
It's from Animage.
--
-Simon Palko
"More fun than a barrel of monkeys... with dynamite strapped to their
backs!"
MoongluM
news:93vb0u$20$1...@gail.ripco.com...
> Duo Maxwell (bloo...@dontspamme.com) wrote:
>
> : I think this list is what Japan likes.
> : US anime popularity is not the same.
>
> I guess I could see that, given that there tends to be a short memory span
for
> anime product in Japan (DIRTY PAIR, for instance, seems to be all but
unknown
> there these days). Still, some clarification on the source of the list
would
> be nice.
DUDE!
it's right in the title, it's from Animage...a japanese language anime
magazine
it is definately for the Japanese fans, an American list would be far
different,
seeing as few of us have seen about half the titles on that list
--
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MoongluM's Fansub Distro and Trading
http://moonglum.saberdoll.net/
Dan Helmick
: This list has 90 most popular animes that the editors selected and top
: 10 animes that the readers voted for.
Thanks for the clarification!
Dan
--
Andrew Ryan Chang
>>
>> Isn't this some plotless violent show that gets made fun of all the
>> time?
>
>You're getting the TV series confused with the movie.
So, what are the strong points of the TV show? T'would be nice to
have an excuse to buy those FotNS 200x action figures.
--
Our generation has had no Great Depression, no Great War. Our war is
spiritual. Our depression is our lives.
-- Tyler Durden, FIGHT CLUB (1999)
Andrew Ryan Chang
>> > 27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
>I dunno if they plan on putting it out on DVD or not.
I think Votoms on DVD was already announced.
Andrew Ryan Chang
>> 27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
>
I'm slowly working my way through renting the series. The
first four tapes -- "Stage 1" -- were pretty good.
Ronald Spillman
Dan Helmick wrote:
>
>
> Yes, it was also released internationally as THE WHITE SNAKE ENCHANTRESS. I
> believe it was the first full-length animated feature made in Japan.
>
> Incidentally, Kodocha is in the process of fansubbing it!
>
> Dan
>
> --
Thanks for the info. I will have to keep an eye out for the fansub (I have the
dub laying
somewhere around the mountain o' tapes I have here). IMO, the animation was
quite good,
and for the period, could have given Disney a run for it's money.
Led Mirage
<had...@bostoninvestek.com> wrote:
>2. Sai-yu-ki
>All of them are aired in 90s. Especially, Sai-yu-ki has been broadcasted
>now. A lot of people, especially men, complain it is a crap...
Saiyuki should be somewhere in the BOTTOM 100. It sucks so bad all the
cels should be buried somewhere never to be found again.
Edward C. Regal
Now that I am finally going to make the plunge into DVDs,
my question is: "Who makes a non-region specific player
that doesn't cost a ton of money?"
I know that at one point the Apex unit could have region
checking and Macrovision turned off (secret menu settings)
but that the current ones don't do that any more - not to
mention comments I've read about playback problems with
them.
So - are there any reasonably priced systems that can do
this out there? Or is this going to have to be a firmware
replacement job if anything at all?
Edvardo
ere...@skypoint.com
Ian Barclay
If you want one of the cheapest ways to get access to all the
features on a DVD, DVD-Rom stuff and movie play back, then you
may want to consider getting a DVD-ROM and a MPEG-II decoder
card.
Here's what you'll need:
Decoder card:
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products/hollywood_plus.htm
Remote:
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products/remote_control.htm
Removal of regional coding on the DVD drive:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/farzeno/firmware/
Removal of regional coding on the Software:
http://www.visualdomain.net/
I have the above setup and it works better then the average low
and mid model DVD players (beats my PS2 and APEX). BTW I use a
25 foot audio cable, S-Video cable and serial cable to let me
output it to my home theater.
But if a DVD-Rom isn't your thing here's where you can get info
on codefree players:
http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews/hardware/index.htm
Or mod an existing player to make it codefree:
http://www.linkonline.co.uk/
Later
Ian
Dosun1
>my question is: "Who makes a non-region specific player
>that doesn't cost a ton of money?"
If money is a factor for you, you should first take a look at the prices for
importing Japanese anime DVDs, they are MUCH more expensive then DVDs here.
Also, most do not contain English subs or dubs which you might want to consider
also. There should be enough region 1 titles here to keep you busy so don't
worry about the whole region coding thing.
Dosun1
>If you want one of the cheapest ways to get access to all the
>features on a DVD, DVD-Rom stuff and movie play back, then you
>may want to consider getting a DVD-ROM and a MPEG-II decoder
>card.
>
Nah, you can get a region free player like an Apex for the same price or less.
I have a H+/dvd drive and it's okay, but a standalone player is much more
convenient.
Allister Huggins
>
> To celebrate the new century Animage listed the top 100 animes of
> the previous century. I will provide a list of all the ones I can
> identify and the numbers they were given. I will also describe some of
> the ones I can and their numbers.
<snip>
> 79. Slayers Try, TV, 1997
The season many consider the weakest of the 3 seasons made the list but
NEXT nor original made it? I don't think so.
Allister H.
Brent Ross
Leaping Larry Jojo <macr...@excite.com> wrote:
//
// Pffft. About 75% of these titles are 90s anime. Where's Little Princess
// Sara? Ribin no Kishi?
Actually, I was quite happy that the highest placing for a 90s anime
on the list (that we got here) was 47th. It's only dense with 90s
anime at the bottom... would prefer to see the whole list though.
--
Brent Ross | Ganymede 67N 57E
bwr...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca | Callisto 6N 37W
Terrence Huey
> Nah, you can get a region free player like an Apex for the same price or
less.
> I have a H+/dvd drive and it's okay, but a standalone player is much more
> convenient.
Not anymore as only old Apex 600s have the secret menu. Thus the only way
to get one nowadays is on ebay or something where they go for considerably
above retail price.
-T
Rocko
-Rocko
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:35:54 -0600, "Edward C. Regal" <espam...@popmail.skypoint.com>
wrote:
>
Brent Ross
Tonberry <NS_...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
// > 97. Love Hina, TV, 2000
//
// Love Hina but no Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou? I mean, Love Hina is cute, but I
// don't think it'll be anything to cheer about ten years down the line. If
// we're talking about teenage love stories, I don't think you can get much
// better than Kare Kano.
Love Hina is pretty mindless T&A and probably doesn't deserve the spot
(fresh stuff often gets a leg up on these lists because older classics
are forgotten).
As for KareKano, it probably doesn't deserve a spot on the list either...
it certainly *could* have deserved a spot, but it falls apart and then
fails to have a real ending... thus ten years down the line it's likely
to be forgotten as well (something will most certainly have replaced
it by then).
Brent
Brent Ross
Scott Fujimoto <scottf...@aol.comsv2> wrote:
// (Gundam G got ranked higher than Eva. Somehow I find that
// hilarious...)
As I'm so fond of saying: G Gundam must be the best Gundam series,
since no other Gundam series can be compared to it.
Brent
Ian Barclay
That, and the APEX is a shitty DVD player in the first place, I
should know I have one. My HW+ is a MUCH better player, plus
with the remote for HW+ I really don't see how it's any less
convenient either.
Later
Ian
Ian Barclay
wrote:
>>Now that I am finally going to make the plunge into DVDs,
>>my question is: "Who makes a non-region specific player
>>that doesn't cost a ton of money?"
>
>
>If money is a factor for you, you should first take a look at the prices for
>importing Japanese anime DVDs, they are MUCH more expensive then DVDs here.
No augment there, most imports are around $40 USD for something
short and $75 USD for something long.
>Also, most do not contain English subs or dubs which you might want to consider
>also.
Actually this is changing, the number of things that contain
subtitles is increasing. Gainax for example seems to be putting
subs on all there DVDs today. FLCL 2 and above is a good
example of this.
BTW here's a list of some R2 titles with reviews:
http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews/region2/index.htm
>There should be enough region 1 titles here to keep you busy so don't
>worry about the whole region coding thing.
Ya there are a lot of R1 titles out, but the fact is are also a
lot of really good R2 things around and it's nice to be able to
use them too. I for example have Macross DYRL, Macross
FlashBack and The Dirty Pair movie all from R2, none of which
are available in R1 at all.
Later
Ian
80-watt Hamster
First, I've not heard too many good things about the Apex (other than
being cheap and region-free). Substandard decoding seems to be a common
complaint. Anyway, just go to Google.com or some other search engine
and give it region + free + dvd, and watch places to obtain region 0 DVD
players appear right before your eyes!
Er, but the more expensive still tends to hold. Although not /too/ much
more. At least before shipping 'n' stuff...
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Radames Bernath
<espam...@popmail.skypoint.com> wrote:
>
>Now that I am finally going to make the plunge into DVDs,
>my question is: "Who makes a non-region specific player
>that doesn't cost a ton of money?"
Depending on what you think is a lot of money, DVD City has a bunch of
Region free and macrovision free players for sale for as little as
$299, and in my experience (2 orders), they have quick shipping and
good customer service.
Their method of Region cracking gets around the new protection on some
discs like the Patriot that won't work in Region 0 players. With the
DVD City players you can either leave it at Region 0 or manually
specify which region you want.
Radames Bernath
www.jpophelp.com
Greene
childhood watching these shows...this almost looks like this list is in
chronological order instead of a true ranking of best ever anime (look at
the dates next to the names, start old and get more and more recent as the
list gets closer to 100). Gatchaman placing 33 places in front of
Nausicaa? Not on any true top anime list I would trust...
makotom...@my-deja.com wrote:
> To celebrate the new century Animage listed the top 100 animes of
> the previous century. I will provide a list of all the ones I can
> identify and the numbers they were given. I will also describe some of
> the ones I can and their numbers.
>
> 1. Hakujaden (Tale of the White Serpant), Movie, 1958.
> 2. Tetsuwan Atom, TV, 1963
> 3. Horus, Prince of the Sun, Movie, 1968. The first anime on the
> list that Miyazaki was involved with.
> 4. Kumotochuribu. I have no idea what it is about dating from 1943.
> It is the oldest anime on the list.
> 8. Ashita no Joe, TV, 1970
> 9. Lupin III, TV, 1971.
> 10. Gatchaman, TV, 1972.
> 11. Mazinger Z, TV, 1972.
> 13. Space Battleship Yamato, TV, 1974.
> 19. Spacde Battleship Yamato, movie, 1978.
> 20. Future Boy Conan, TV, 1978
> 22. Aim for the Ace, TV, 1979.
> 23. Akage no Anne, TV, 1979.
> 24. Mobile Suit Gundam, TV, 1979.
> 25. The Ideon Be Invoked, Movie, 1982
> 27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
> 28. Galaxy Express 999, Movie, 1979
> 29. Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro, Movie, 1979
> 30. Urusei Yatsura, TV, 1981
> 31. SDF Macross, TV, 1982
> 35. Daicon Films, 1983
> 38. Urusei Yatsura 2: Beutiful Dreamer, Movie, 1984
> 39. Macross: Do You Remember Love?, Movie, 1984
> 42. Wings of the Honnimise, Movie, 1987
> 43. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Movie, 1984
> 44. Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Movie, 1986
> 45. Tonari no Totoro, Movie, 1988
> 46. Grave of the Fireflies, Movie, 1988
> 47. Princess Mononoke, Movie, 1997
> 48. Dr. Slump, TV, 1981
> 49. Captain Tsubasa, TV, 1983
> 50. Fist of the Northstar, TV, 1984
> 51. Touch, TV, 1985
> 52. Dragonball, TV, 1986
> 53. Saint Seiya, TV, 1986
> 55. Yu Yu Hakusho, TV, 1992
> 56. Wicked City, OVA, 1987
> 57. Akira, Movie, 1988
> 58. Ghost in the Shell, Movie, 1995
> 60. Gubuster, OAV, 1988
> 61. Patlabor, OAV, 1988
> 62. Giant Robo, OAV, 1992
> 63. Tenchi Muyo, OAV, 1992
> 64. Ah Megami-sama, OAV, 1993
> 65. Patlabor 2:The Movie, Movie, 1993
> 66. Tokyo Babylon 2, OAV, 1994
> 67. Macross Plus, OAV, 1994
> 68. Memories, Movie, 1996
> 69. Mahou Tsukai Tai, OAV, 1996
> 70. Blue Submarine No.6, OAV, 1998
> 71. Sailor Moon, TV, 1992
> 72. Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water, TV, 1990
> 73. Crayon Shin-chan, TV, 1992
> 74. Mobile Suit G Gundam, TV, 1994
> 76. Mobile Suit Gundam Wing, TV, 1995
> 77. Kodomo no Omocha, TV, 1996
> 78. The Vision of Escaflowne, TV, 1996
> 79. Slayers Try, TV, 1997
> 80. Revolutionary Girl Utena, TV, 1997
> 82. Pokemon, TV, 1997
> 83. Cowboy Bebop, TV, 1998
> 85. Serial Experiments Lain, TV, 1998
> 88. Digimon: The Movie, Movie, 2000
> 89. Jin-Roh, Movie, 2000
> 90. Blood: The Last Vampire, Movie, 2000
> 91. Cardcapror Sakura, TV, 1998
> 93. Neon Genesis Evangelion, TV, 1995
> 94. HunterxHunter, TV, 1999
> 95. One Piece, TV, 1999
> 96. Detective Boy Conan, TV, 1996
> 97. Love Hina, TV, 2000
> 98. Sakura Taisen, TV, 2000
> 99. Martian Successor Nadesico, TV, 1996
> 100. Doremon, TV, 1979
>
> What do you think of the list? Which animes do you feel were
> neglected. IMO Original Dirty Pair, El Hazard OAV, Bubblegum Crisis
> OAVs, Maison Ikkoku TV, and many others should have been
>
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If you have your computer next to your TV, I'd suggest getting a DVD-ROM and a
decoder card. You can get a 12x Toshiba DVD drive for about $100, and a Sigma
Designs Hollywood Plus MPEG card for about $60.
Toshiba DVD drives have a simple firmware patch which will bypass their region
coding. Plus having a high speed DVD is very nice for discs with a bunch of
menus.
The Hollywood plus card has a Svideo and composite TV out, plus a S/PDIF audio
connection. You can find a couple simple programs to bypass it's region
encoding too (Zone Selector and Remote Selector).
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Duo Maxwell
"Greene" <fibers@*nospam*pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> I think a lot of this was based on memories that the staff had in their
> childhood watching these shows...this almost looks like this list is in
> chronological order instead of a true ranking of best ever anime (look at
> the dates next to the names, start old and get more and more recent as the
> list gets closer to 100). Gatchaman placing 33 places in front of
> Nausicaa? Not on any true top anime list I would trust...
Im kinda suprised Transformers aint on here.
I mean it only has had 10 seasons of episodes, plus the Brave Series.
(Original 2 US seasons, 3rd season US, Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory,
First Season Beast Wars, 2nd & 3rd Season Beast Wars, Beast Wars 2, Beast
Wars Neo, Car Robots.)
It might just be a kids show, but there has to be SOMETHING there to get
that many seasons
on TV.
Led Mirage
Ross) wrote:
>Actually, I was quite happy that the highest placing for a 90s anime
>on the list (that we got here) was 47th. It's only dense with 90s
>anime at the bottom... would prefer to see the whole list though.
And remember when we used to go to school by foot through 2 feet of
snow? Those were the days.
Louis Patterson
Not me; if we'd had snow, we'd be happy. Rain would have been nice; hell,
even clouds. But no. *we* had to walk to school through drifts of soft
sand three foot high, with the mercury at forty-six degrees. Snow? Hah!
softies...
Louis
--
Louis Patterson l.patt...@ugrad.unimelb.edu.au
ataruk...@my-deja.com
> > news:93usa7$9i4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To celebrate the new century Animage listed the top 100 animes
> of
> > > the previous century. I will provide a list of all the ones I can
> > > identify and the numbers they were given. I will also describe
some
> of
> > > the ones I can and their numbers.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Hakujaden (Tale of the White Serpant), Movie, 1958.
> > > 2. Tetsuwan Atom, TV, 1963
> > > 3. Horus, Prince of the Sun, Movie, 1968. The first anime on
the
> > > list that Miyazaki was involved with.
> > > 4. Kumotochuribu. I have no idea what it is about dating from
> 1943.
> > > It is the oldest anime on the list.
> > > 8. Ashita no Joe, TV, 1970
> > > 9. Lupin III, TV, 1971.
> >
> >
>
> Heard of all except number 4.
>
> >
> > > 27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
> >
>
> and animation. Ah well, it's all good.
>
> >
> > > 57. Akira, Movie, 1988
> >
> > I've had mixed feelings about this film. Great visual imagery,
but...
>
> First big "arthouse" success abroad. Based on impact, it deserves to
be
> SOMEWHERE on the list, spotty as the film may be,
>
> >
> > > 68. Memories, Movie, 1996
> > > 69. Mahou Tsukai Tai, OAV, 1996
> > > 70. Blue Submarine No.6, OAV, 1998
> >
> >
>
> Short memory syndrome. Next.
>
> > > 71. Sailor Moon, TV, 1992
> >
> earned
> > the show its place on the list.
>
> Influential and even a little bit innovative, combining magical girls
> with sentai show sensibilities.
>
> >
> > > 82. Pokemon, TV, 1997
> > > 88. Digimon: The Movie, Movie, 2000
> >
> I like
> > both series but... And Digimon: The Movie isn't even the best
> example of
> > Digimon.
> >
>
> We can make a case for Pokemon as the BIG international success, but
> Digimon the movie? AHHHHHH....
>
> > > What do you think of the list? Which animes do you feel
were
> > > neglected. IMO Original Dirty Pair, El Hazard OAV, Bubblegum
Crisis
> >
> > My problem is more with where the "classics" are ranked rather than
> > omissions.
> >
>
> What about Rose of Versailles? Harlock? Several Masterpiece Theatre
> shows? Geez, was Heidi on this list??
>
I have the same magazine and Heidi was on the list. I forgot the
nimber though.
MAN...an ancient race aka Pugnacio
Kisai
<csy...@radiks.net> wrote:
I've seen several people quute getting a Mpeg-II decoder card. Don't.
It will be a waste of money because the cards are region locked, as
well as 90% of the DVD-ROM's that have been released.
The current brand of DVD-ROM that can be unlocked is ASUS (Just yank a
jumper off the back of it, and it's region free again)
Also:
Windows 2000 does not allow region changes, so you have to run Windows
98 or 98SE, Nothing else.
(I know, because my DVD-ROM is region-free (the reason I bought it
^_^), but windows 2000 wouldn't read a disc untill I set windows to a
region.)
If you want to go the PC route (sorry Mac users, you're screwed.) Pick
up an Old ATI Rage 128/Rage 128 Pro AGP (TV-out is a bonus), an Asus
DVD-ROM (or any that are region free, see
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/support/region.html ) And at least a
Pentium II 400 / Celeron 600+ / Duron 600+ / Athlon 600+ (Minumum
specs needed for Mpeg II software decoding is stated as "Pentium II
400 or better", that is for ANY video card, the specs are lower for
ATI, S3 or Intel video systems) and use those. You can get away with
any AGP card, but then you HAVE to have at least a PII 400.
The PC route is the best way to go ONLY for imports. It's not the best
for playing only region 1.
Optional hardware:
SB-Live Value OEM or any Separate PCI audio card that has a S/PDIF
"direct" output that will pass the AC3 stream directly to the output,
then you can hook that up to a surround system.
I repeat: Do NOT get a MPEG-2 card, they are LOCKED at region 1, and
can not be modified. (BTW, @home blocks that site, so turn off the
proxy to get to it, or load it in mozilla.)
A few models can be hacked, but you risk destroying them.
You may be able to flash or revert a flash rom on the DVD-ROM and not
void the warrenty. You can not do this with a stand-alone player.
("mod-chips" for DVD players are popular in Europe and Austrailia ...
gee I wonder why?)
A few more notes:
TV-out on video cards, they are required to output macrovision,
however you can turn it off on most video cards with the DVD genie
(availiable from that site) or use a "copymaster" filter to kill it.
So you have to have a TV with the video-in, otherwise running it
though a VCR will just get a lot of fade-in/fade-out.
--
Kisai
(Resident hardware guru for many people ^_^)
Wayne C. Morris
<espam...@popmail.skypoint.com> wrote:
> Now that I am finally going to make the plunge into DVDs,
> my question is: "Who makes a non-region specific player
> that doesn't cost a ton of money?"
Nobody.
Nobody can make a DVD player or drive without paying for the appropriate
hardware technology licence from the people who created the DVD format.
One of the provisions of that licence is that the player/drive MUST
enforce region coding. So all players & drives are region-specific when
shipped from the factories.
Sometimes a company screws up, and the player will have a secret command
for changing the region code. But as soon as people start to find out
about these loopholes, the DVD people tell the manufacturer to fix it
"or else".
You can find people who buy the players, modify them to be
region-switchable (it's not illegal), and resell them. But they want to
make a profit, so you'l have to pay more than you would for the
unmodified single-region version of the same player.
Ian Barclay
wrote:
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products/hollywood_plus.htm
doesn't have a regional lock and it's also the best card around.
It can do Composite, S-Video, 2 Channel Stereo, AC-3, DTS, has a
remote, is cheap as hell and needs very few system resources.
>as well as 90% of the DVD-ROM's that have been released.
True, but many of them have firmware hacks to remove it.
http://perso.club-internet.fr/farzeno/firmware/
>The current brand of DVD-ROM that can be unlocked is ASUS (Just yank a
>jumper off the back of it, and it's region free again)
The firmware fixes will do the same thing, (as long as you buy a
drive model that has such a fix out for it)
>Also:
>
>Windows 2000 does not allow region changes, so you have to run Windows
>98 or 98SE, Nothing else.
>
>(I know, because my DVD-ROM is region-free (the reason I bought it
>^_^), but windows 2000 wouldn't read a disc untill I set windows to a
>region.)
Don't know about 2000, but it sounds like something Micro$oft
would do.
>If you want to go the PC route (sorry Mac users, you're screwed.) Pick
>up an Old ATI Rage 128/Rage 128 Pro AGP (TV-out is a bonus), an Asus
>DVD-ROM (or any that are region free, see
>http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/support/region.html ) And at least a
>Pentium II 400 / Celeron 600+ / Duron 600+ / Athlon 600+ (Minumum
>specs needed for Mpeg II software decoding is stated as "Pentium II
>400 or better", that is for ANY video card, the specs are lower for
>ATI, S3 or Intel video systems) and use those. You can get away with
>any AGP card, but then you HAVE to have at least a PII 400.
My HW+ worked beautifully on a P133 with 16MB Ram.
>The PC route is the best way to go ONLY for imports. It's not the best
>for playing only region 1.
My R1 DVDs, including those that check for R1 compliance, all
work fine on my system.
>Optional hardware:
>SB-Live Value OEM or any Separate PCI audio card that has a S/PDIF
>"direct" output that will pass the AC3 stream directly to the output,
>then you can hook that up to a surround system.
HW+ has an S/PDIF already.
>I repeat: Do NOT get a MPEG-2 card, they are LOCKED at region 1, and
>can not be modified. (BTW, @home blocks that site, so turn off the
>proxy to get to it, or load it in mozilla.)
Site?
>A few models can be hacked, but you risk destroying them.
It's not a very big risk, just ask in the DVD groups before you
buy it to see if the hack worked and if so then buy the drive.
>You may be able to flash or revert a flash rom on the DVD-ROM and not
>void the warrenty. You can not do this with a stand-alone player.
>("mod-chips" for DVD players are popular in Europe and Austrailia ...
>gee I wonder why?)
>
>
>A few more notes:
>
>TV-out on video cards, they are required to output macrovision,
>however you can turn it off on most video cards with the DVD genie
>(availiable from that site) or use a "copymaster" filter to kill it.
>So you have to have a TV with the video-in, otherwise running it
>though a VCR will just get a lot of fade-in/fade-out.
You can kill Macrovision at the software interface level with
Remote Selector and the HW+ card.
Later
Ian
Ian Barclay
<nos...@this.is.invalid> wrote:
>In article <t6bso5k...@news.supernews.com>, "Edward C. Regal"
><espam...@popmail.skypoint.com> wrote:
>
>> Now that I am finally going to make the plunge into DVDs,
>> my question is: "Who makes a non-region specific player
>> that doesn't cost a ton of money?"
>
>Nobody.
Sorry but Pioneer and JVC are not nobodies and they both make
Code free (usually gold boxed) players in Asia.
ie:
http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews/hardware/pioneer_dvl_919_codefree.htm
Ian Barclay
wrote:
>In article <07ag6tkl9akodbd7i...@4ax.com>,
>Ian Barclay <ianba...@nospam.home.com> wrote:
>>>Nobody can make a DVD player or drive without paying for the appropriate
>>>hardware technology licence from the people who created the DVD format.
>>>One of the provisions of that licence is that the player/drive MUST
>>>enforce region coding. So all players & drives are region-specific when
>>>shipped from the factories.
>>Sorry but Pioneer and JVC are not nobodies and they both make
>>Code free (usually gold boxed) players in Asia.
>>http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews/hardware/pioneer_dvl_919_codefree.htm
>
>That's not directly from Pioneer.
I'm not absolutely sure about this model, but I've read that
from factory codefree do players exist.
>it's modified, and you pay for it.
If you actually bother to read the article you'll see this asian
model costs $149 LESS than the USA version and has a better
remote. So I'd hardly call that really paying for it. Same
thing goes for a friend of mine who got a similar Gold codefree
JVC model, it cost less than the average high end NA player.
Kurt Bernhard Pruenner
> I've seen several people quute getting a Mpeg-II decoder card. Don't.
Don't - if you've got a machine clocked at 400 or more MHz; otherwise go
the Hollywood Plus route.
> It will be a waste of money because the cards are region locked, as
> well as 90% of the DVD-ROM's that have been released.
>
> The current brand of DVD-ROM that can be unlocked is ASUS (Just yank a
> jumper off the back of it, and it's region free again)
Not to mention the legions of new DVD-ROMs that there are firmware
patches for, no? On http://www.firmware.com.bi/, there's also a listing
of at least one other drive that can be made temporarily RPC1 by holding
down it's play and eject buttons when powering up your system. q.e.d.
> Also:
>
> Windows 2000 does not allow region changes, so you have to run Windows
> 98 or 98SE, Nothing else.
No. You just have to use DVD Genie from http://www.inmatrix.com/ on
Win2K; and you'd most probably want to use it anyway, on any Windows
OS...
> (I know, because my DVD-ROM is region-free (the reason I bought it
> ^_^), but windows 2000 wouldn't read a disc untill I set windows to a
> region.)
So what? The region code is stored on your hard drive, in the registry,
there's nothing M$ can do to prevent hampering with it.
> If you want to go the PC route (sorry Mac users, you're screwed.) Pick
> up an Old ATI Rage 128/Rage 128 Pro AGP (TV-out is a bonus), an Asus
> DVD-ROM (or any that are region free, see
> http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/support/region.html )
I thought only ASUS were region free? *insert puzzled look*
> I repeat: Do NOT get a MPEG-2 card, they are LOCKED at region 1, and
> can not be modified. (BTW, @home blocks that site, so turn off the
> proxy to get to it, or load it in mozilla.)
I repeat - don't believe the (mis-)hype. Get a Hollywood Plus, or a
Creative DXR3, which is just an OEM H+...
Hey, a friend of mine got a DXR3 _AND_ I can approve that it's
region-free, as shown by successful screenings of Serial Experiments
Lain (RC1) and The Big Lebowski (RC2) in rapid succession...
> A few models can be hacked, but you risk destroying them.
Oh my... then again, you risk your motherboard BIOS so much more
often...
--
Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria
Music: http://www.mp3.com/Leak --- Work: http://www.ssw.uni-linz.ac.at
.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N".......
np: Leak - Pobluc
Bruce Tomlin
<Kis...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If you want to go the PC route (sorry Mac users, you're screwed.) Pick
Mac users are not screwed. The G3 Powerbooks from last year all use software
playback, and both models of DVD-ROM drives have hacks. The latter one has a
command to go back to RPC-1, making the drive region-free until you reboot.
And at twice the price of those little portable DVD players, you get more
than twice the screen. But they're going fast, with the new models already
announced.
metro...@mindspring.com
> So, what are the strong points of the TV show? T'would be nice to
>have an excuse to buy those FotNS 200x action figures.
The original series was very angst-driven, and *very* Japanese. The whole
thing could (and was - at least by the Japanese fans i knew back then) be
seen as a very violent moral lesson on personal honor vs duty vs familial
honor. The whole thing being started by Kenshiro failing in his honor
obligation to "break the fists" of his brothers. Particularly Raoh.
Honor debts, obligations, and the price that must be paid for failing them,
are constant running themes throughout the show. Many of the characters
(such as the element stylists), at least according to the Nihonjin i used to
know (are you there Nogiwa-san?) also emphasize Japanese archetypes and this
or that point of philosophy. From *that* viewpoint, again, very Japanese.
There's a scene at the end of Hokuto No Ken 2, where Kenshiro leaves the
crying adult Bat and Lin (Lin apparently is dying of cancer at this point?),
where he's riding off on that damn big horse, and the music is playing. Then
there's these images of all these people (major characters) shown as he's
riding off. (This goes on for a really long time.) And you realize that
these are all people who Kenshiro knew and who died directly as a result of
that first failure of honor. People whose faces he knows and whom he feels
responsible directly for.
i used to have two subtitled tapes of the series, from when it had played on
Hawaiian TV. Unfortunately, as i ran an anime club, someone got into my
tapes and made off with them (among others) during a meeting a couple of
years ago.
The series was enormously popular at the time, and likely has more than a
few fans who remember the series quite fondly.
-----------
"Kasumi, that wasn't his sleep spot." Ranma called
out from the sidelines, moved by a mischievous
impulse. "That was his shiatsu explosive castration
point."
-"Fist Of Orion"
http://metroanime.home.mindspring.com/
metro...@mindspring.com
Kurt Bernhard Pruenner
> Kis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > If you want to go the PC route (sorry Mac users, you're screwed.)
>
> playback, and both models of DVD-ROM drives have hacks. The latter one has a
> command to go back to RPC-1, making the drive region-free until you reboot.
>
> And at twice the price of those little portable DVD players, you get more
> than twice the screen. But they're going fast, with the new models already
> announced.
And of course, a firmware patch for the new models already announced as
well - take a look at http://www.firmware.com.bi/ ... ^_^
--
Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria
Music: http://www.mp3.com/Leak --- Work: http://www.ssw.uni-linz.ac.at
.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N".......
np: Leak - Shrat
Ian Barclay
Signma Designs OEM's a Mac DVD decoder card that I believe can
be used in any Mac on the market that has a PCI bus. Sorry I
don't have the link, but I know the card is out there.
Later
Ian
gypsy...@my-deja.com
>
> > 27. Armored Trooper Votoms, TV, 1983
>
it. No
> one seems to be interested in old 80's "real robot" shows if they
don't
> have the names Gundam or Macross stamped on them. I hear this one's
an epic
> that gives Gundam a run for it's money.
>
Keep looking. One of the anime companies brought it here to the US in
the early 90's. You'll also want to see about obtaining the Red
Shoulder OVAs and the Armor Hunter Mellowlink series, since they are
part of the ATV universe as well. Mellowlink should be available from a
few of the fansub distro services.