BKN moves to Sci-Fi Channel this morning.
Enrique Conty
Sci-Fi Channel is going to show a bunch of BKN shows as their
new weekday morning animation block, starting on Monday, August 30th.
The following is from the SFC Schedulebot.
Monday-Thursday (All times Eastern):
7:00 AM Monster Rancher (anime, based on videogame)
7:30 AM Starship Troopers (CG, based on the Heinlein novel)
8:00 AM Mummies Alive (rerun)
8:30 AM Extreme Ghostbusters (rerun)
Friday (All times Eastern):
7:00 AM Double Dragon (rerun)
7:30 AM Ramdo (?)
8:00 AM Street Sharks (rerun)
8:30 AM Roswell Conspiracies (action/adventure... ?)
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EBelcher
Sylvester Stallone movies.I'm looking forward to seeing Extreme Ghostbusters
and the new series as well.
Enrique Conty
That's what I originally thought, but... that would make it the
only non-fantasy/scifi show in the lineup.
I still think it's something else.
Athena of Axetron
>
> Sci-Fi Channel is going to show a bunch of BKN shows as their
> new weekday morning animation block, starting on Monday, August 30th.
> The following is from the SFC Schedulebot.
>
> Monday-Thursday (All times Eastern):
> 7:00 AM Monster Rancher (anime, based on videogame)
> 7:30 AM Starship Troopers (CG, based on the Heinlein novel)
> 8:00 AM Mummies Alive (rerun)
> 8:30 AM Extreme Ghostbusters (rerun)
>
> Friday (All times Eastern):
> 7:00 AM Double Dragon (rerun)
> 7:30 AM Ramdo (?)
> 8:00 AM Street Sharks (rerun)
> 8:30 AM Roswell Conspiracies (action/adventure... ?)
too bad they're not airing Captain Simian and the Space Monkeys :(
That was a GOOD show!
Chris Sobieniak
heydays. One toon they should've gottne was Astro Boy, as well as those
other classic Japanese anime and sentai shows.
I'm also very dissapointed at their cancellation of MST3K, that was
perhaps the worst think Sci-Fi has ever done. Really messes everything
they've achieved for the past seven years.
Now they're going to show reruns of some stupid Rambo toon,
<sarcastic>how great</sarcastic>, what's next, a Kevin Costner movie
marathon?
Chris S.
EBelcher
that much of the latter show.
ErnieChan9
erniechan9
Neil4161
new weekday morning animation block, starting on Monday, August 30th.
The following is from the SFC Schedulebot.
Monday-Thursday (All times Eastern):
7:00 AM Monster Rancher (anime, based on videogame)
7:30 AM Starship Troopers (CG, based on the Heinlein novel)
8:00 AM Mummies Alive (rerun)
8:30 AM Extreme Ghostbusters (rerun)
Friday (All times Eastern):
7:00 AM Double Dragon (rerun)
7:30 AM Ramdo (?)
8:00 AM Street Sharks (rerun)
8:30 AM Roswell Conspiracies (action/adventure... ?) >>
Sci-Fi Channel every day becomes less of one. With the exception of Starship
Troopers and possibly Roswell Conspiracies, the rest don't fit. Why can't
Sci-Fi grab things like Space Sentinels, The New Adventures of Flash Gordon,
Mighty Orbots, Gigantor, Technoman, Star Blazers, Robotech, Fantastic Voyage,
Starcom, Journey to the Center of the Earth and other shows that more fit the
theme of Sci-Fi Channel? Sci-Fi Channel has, with few exceptions, been one big
disappintment.
Danger X
Enrique Conty <co...@enteract.com> wrote in message
news:7q74ns$h5n$1...@eve.enteract.com...
> In article <19990827173519...@ng-fu1.aol.com>,
> EBelcher <ebel...@aol.com> wrote:
> >"Rando" was a misspelling;it's actually Rambo,the mid 80s series based on
the
> >Sylvester Stallone movies.I'm looking forward to seeing Extreme
Ghostbusters
> >and the new series as well.
>
> That's what I originally thought, but... that would make it the
> only non-fantasy/scifi show in the lineup.
> I still think it's something else.
Yes, but Rando? It sounds like a bad amateur magician's act performing for
some kid's 5th birthday party...
"And for the next trick, I, the Amazing Rando will astound..."
^_^
That's all fer now,
Kyle
Danger X
Neil4161 <neil...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990827224355...@ng-fz1.aol.com...
Good choices!
> Sci-Fi Channel has, with few exceptions, been one big
> disappintment.
I would also dare say any channel that cancels a classic show like MST3K
increases it's disappointment factor big time... Perhaps what they need is a
large dose of Evangelion, or something of that caliber.
Star Saber
Danger X <gal...@efni.com> wrote in article
<PbIx3.460$6z3...@198.235.216.4>...
>
> > Sci-Fi Channel every day becomes less of one. With the exception of
> Starship
> > Troopers and possibly Roswell Conspiracies, the rest don't fit. Why
can't
> > Sci-Fi grab things like Space Sentinels, The New Adventures of Flash
> Gordon,
> > Mighty Orbots, Gigantor, Technoman, Star Blazers, Robotech, Fantastic
> Voyage,
> > Starcom, Journey to the Center of the Earth and other shows that more
fit
> the
> > theme of Sci-Fi Channel?
Actually, SFC used to show over half of the series you mentioned awhile
back during their "CartoonQuest/Animation Station" block. Unfortunately,
they never did show MIGHTY ORBOTS or STAR BLAZERS but they DID have LAND OF
THE LOST (the original), BIONIC SIX, and DROIDS/EWOKS.
They also used to show DEFENDERS OF THE EARTH and TRANSFORMERS. :)
-Star Saber (and why doesn't EXTREME GHOSTBUSTERS fit with the genre??)
JLeavitt5
"I, the Amazing Rando will construct sets with my very mind!"
EBelcher
Station as well.Cartoon Network is picking up Ronin Warriors as part of Toonami
beginning September 27th at 5:30 pm.
Enrique Conty
Danger X <gal...@efni.com> wrote:
>I would also dare say any channel that cancels a classic show like MST3K
>increases it's disappointment factor big time...
MST3K needed to die to put it out of its misery.
Enrique Conty
Neil4161 <neil...@aol.com> wrote:
>Why can't Sci-Fi grab things like Space Sentinels, The New Adventures
>of Flash Gordon, Mighty Orbots, Gigantor, Technoman, Star Blazers,
>Robotech, Fantastic Voyage, Starcom, Journey to the Center of the
>Earth and other shows that more fit the theme of Sci-Fi Channel?
Well, they *have* shown a number of the above titles over the last
few years... then there's the Filmation titles, whose rights
are a pain to track down, since you basically have to hunt them down
on a per-show basis.
But yeah, this new cartoon lineup leaves a lot to be desired.
Danger X
> In article <PbIx3.460$6z3...@198.235.216.4>,
> Danger X <gal...@efni.com> wrote:
> >I would also dare say any channel that cancels a classic show like MST3K
> >increases it's disappointment factor big time...
>
> MST3K needed to die to put it out of its misery.
No it didn't...
And the only misery involved would've been watching the terrible movies they
showed without Mike and the gang.
Movies like Hobgoblins are hardly cinematic masterpieces by any stretch of
the imagination...
Danger X
Kip Williams <ki...@home.com> wrote in message
news:37C84646...@home.com...
> MST3K... am I the only one who wishes they'd re-run the old episodes?
>
Hell NO!!! As much as I like Mike, Joel always had that sleepy-eyed
laid-back edge over Mike.
Joel for prez!
Laters,
Kyle
Kip Williams
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Aaron Howald
EBelcher <ebel...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I wish they could have picked up Mighty Max or Extreme Dinosaurs,i didn't
see
> that much of the latter show.
Yeah! Mighty Max was great!
--
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aho...@w-link.net
Aaron Howald
Danger X <gal...@efni.com> wrote in message
news:yUXx3.1337$6z3...@198.235.216.4...
> >
>
> laid-back edge over Mike.
Here we go again...(I would like re-runs of the old shows though...)
One movie I wish they had done is "The wizard of mars" starring David
Carridine (in the last 10 minutes, as a head!!) It would have been
glorious!
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aho...@w-link.net
Aaron Howald
Star Saber <star...@mindSPAMBUSTERspring.com> wrote in message
news:01bef140$ae158740$524a56d1@default...
>
>
> Danger X <gal...@efni.com> wrote in article
> <PbIx3.460$6z3...@198.235.216.4>...
> >
> > > Sci-Fi Channel every day becomes less of one. With the exception of
> > Starship
> can't
> > > Sci-Fi grab things like Space Sentinels, The New Adventures of Flash
> > Gordon,
> > > Mighty Orbots, Gigantor, Technoman, Star Blazers, Robotech, Fantastic
> > Voyage,
> > > Starcom, Journey to the Center of the Earth and other shows that more
> fit
> > the
> > > theme of Sci-Fi Channel?
>
> back during their "CartoonQuest/Animation Station" block. Unfortunately,
> they never did show MIGHTY ORBOTS or STAR BLAZERS but they DID have LAND
OF
> THE LOST (the original), BIONIC SIX, and DROIDS/EWOKS.
> They also used to show DEFENDERS OF THE EARTH and TRANSFORMERS. :)
When was this? (what year?) I wanted Sci-Fi when they showed Space
1999+other cool stuff; but our local cable had it scrambled.
Now it's not, but all the good stuff is gone!!!
--
Aaron Howald
aho...@w-link.net
tbr...@trinity.edu
schedule for BKN, courtesy of the Sci-Fi Channel:
Monday-Thursday (All times Eastern):
7:00 AM Monster Rancher (anime, based on
videogame)
7:30 AM Starship Troopers (CG, based on the
Heinlein novel)
8:00 AM Mummies Alive (rerun)
8:30 AM Extreme Ghostbusters (rerun)
Friday (All times Eastern):
7:00 AM Double Dragon (rerun)
7:30 AM Ramdo (?)
8:00 AM Street Sharks (rerun)
8:30 AM Roswell Conspiracies (action/
adventure... ?)
In article <7q99p1$6s2$1...@eve.enteract.com>,
co...@enteract.com (Enrique Conty) wrote:
> In article <19990827224355...@ng-fz1.aol.com>,
> Neil4161 <neil...@aol.com> wrote:
> >Why can't Sci-Fi grab things like Space Sentinels, The New Adventures
> >of Flash Gordon, Mighty Orbots, Gigantor, Technoman, Star Blazers,
> >Robotech, Fantastic Voyage, Starcom, Journey to the Center of the
> >Earth and other shows that more fit the theme of Sci-Fi Channel?
>
> Well, they *have* shown a number of the above titles over the last
> few years... then there's the Filmation titles, whose rights
> are a pain to track down, since you basically have to hunt them down
> on a per-show basis.
Actually, there is hope for Starcom. I first caught the series when it
re-aired as part of BKN back in fall 1995. If they're desperate for
programming, Starcom may get another limited run.
Robotech had a nice little run on the weekday Toonami, but now it's been
exiled to the Sunday morning Midnight Run of Toonam, when guys like me
are watching Saturday Anime of Sci-Fi.
I'd love to see Teknoman on Toonami (it'd single-handedly boost the
quality of the current lineup), with news English dubs in the spirit of
the never-before-seen-in-America eps of Sailor Moon and Reboot.
> But yeah, this new cartoon lineup leaves a lot to be desired.
Hey! With X-Ghostbusters, it's already one step ahead of Toonami and
Sci-Fi's old animation block. (Hate to piss off the fans of Voltron,
Thundercats, and DBZ... but PLEASE!)
Terrence Briggs
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tbr...@trinity.edu
co...@enteract.com (Enrique Conty) wrote:
> In article <PbIx3.460$6z3...@198.235.216.4>,
> Danger X <gal...@efni.com> wrote:
> >I would also dare say any channel that cancels a classic show like MST3K
> >increases it's disappointment factor big time...
>
> MST3K needed to die to put it out of its misery.
All right, I'll bite: WHAT misery?
And keep in mind, we're talking about a network that's decided to milk
Sliders for all it's worth, despite losing half of its original cast.
EBelcher
the whole series but UPN only ran about half of it.
Sith Ranma
>Here we go again...(I would like re-runs of the old shows though...)
>One movie I wish they had done is "The wizard of mars" starring David
>Carridine (in the last 10 minutes, as a head!!) It would have been
>glorious!
>
>
They could've even showcased an animated film (although it's not from the
Golden Age of cinema)... Starchaser: The Legend of Orin... I can imagine it
now...
ROUGE HENCHMAN: Do you have ze cargo?
HAN SOLO TYPE: Do you have "ze" money?
CROW: Do you have "ze" plot?
As for the new Starship Troopers... looks like Titan AE has it's work cut out
for them big time, innovation-wise. No Bug blood shown, though... @(^.^)@
Enrique Conty
Yes it did. Joel, Frank, Trace, and others left, and the show suffered
quite a bit as a result. It just wasn't as funny anymore.
As far as I'm concerned, the cancellation of MST3K was long overdue,
and qualifies as a mercy killing...
Ob animation: which animated films do you think would have made
good MST3K fodder?
tbr...@trinity.edu
co...@enteract.com (Enrique Conty) wrote:
> In article <bnXx3.1278$6z3...@198.235.216.4>,
> Danger X <gal...@efni.com> wrote:
> >> MST3K needed to die to put it out of its misery.
> >No it didn't...
>
> Yes it did. Joel, Frank, Trace, and others left, and the show
suffered
> quite a bit as a result. It just wasn't as funny anymore.
Then you must have missed Space Mutiny, friend :)
<snip>
> Ob animation: which animated films do you think would have made
> good MST3K fodder?
I'd start with Space Wrarriors: Battle for Space Station S-1, work on up
to more popular stuff like Fist of the North Star, and round it up with
a rousing slam of Pocahontas :)
Danger X
> In article <bnXx3.1278$6z3...@198.235.216.4>,
> Danger X <gal...@efni.com> wrote:
> >> MST3K needed to die to put it out of its misery.
> >No it didn't...
>
> Yes it did. Joel, Frank, Trace, and others left, and the show suffered
> quite a bit as a result. It just wasn't as funny anymore.
No it didn't! :) Though I liked Joel more, I found that more recent viewers
tended to like Mike more. And there were many classic "Mike" moments, and
Brain-guy was always good for a laugh now and again.
> As far as I'm concerned, the cancellation of MST3K was long overdue,
> and qualifies as a mercy killing...
That's nice, however as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't...
> Ob animation: which animated films do you think would have made
> good MST3K fodder?
I don't know if an animated film would be good for the show. It's much more
easier to make fun of live-action and cheesy puppet shows (i.e.
Thunderbirds). And a TV show like the Care Bears or something would
probably cause too much pain in the writing of the show that the comedy
would suffer... How about...
Flinstones Meets the Jetsons? (or was this named Jetsons Meet the
Flinstones?)
Badly dubbed anime would be more MST style anyways. Such as:
Macross in Clash of the Bionoids
Speed Racer
Or a "Simon in the Land of Chalkdrawings" short... That could lead to all
sorts of "LSD" references and stuff! ^_^
Well I've rambled on long enough,
Kyle
Enrique Conty
>Then you must have missed Space Mutiny, friend :)
I *taped* it, buddy. But my point stands.
Danger X
> In article <7qh0h3$sdc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, <tbr...@trinity.edu> wrote:
> >Then you must have missed Space Mutiny, friend :)
>
> I *taped* it, buddy. But my point stands.
>
Several opposing points still stand tall as well!
That's all,
Kyle
An artist who sells junk, or a junk dealer who sells art?
Conty) wrote:
>Ob animation: which animated films do you think would have made
>good MST3K fodder?
The Flintstones Meet The Jetsons
JLeavitt5
REDEMABLE VALUE! It was bad bad bad bad bad in EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD....
Kip Williams
"The Man Called Flintstone." Then they could talk over "Tickle, Toddle,
Nickle-y Noddle." Loud.
S.J.Carras
>From: co...@enteract.com (Enrique Conty)
>Date: Fri, 27 August 1999 05:13 PM EDT
>Message-id: <7q6v0s$cj9$1...@eve.enteract.com>
>
>
>Sci-Fi Channel is going to show a bunch of BKN shows as their
>new weekday morning animation block, starting on Monday, August 30th.
>The following is from the SFC Schedulebot.
>
>7:00 AM Monster Rancher (anime, based on videogame)
>7:30 AM Starship Troopers (CG, based on the Heinlein novel)
>8:00 AM Mummies Alive (rerun)
>8:30 AM Extreme Ghostbusters (rerun)
>
>Friday (All times Eastern):
>7:00 AM Double Dragon (rerun)
>7:30 AM Ramdo (?)
>8:00 AM Street Sharks (rerun)
>8:30 AM Roswell Conspiracies (action/adventure... ?)
>
>
Er, what is "BKN?;-)?
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neil...@aol.com (Neil4161) wrote:
> << Sci-Fi Channel is going to show a bunch of BKN shows as their
> new weekday morning animation block, starting on Monday, August 30th.
> The following is from the SFC Schedulebot.
>
> Monday-Thursday (All times Eastern):
> 7:00 AM Monster Rancher (anime, based on videogame)
> 7:30 AM Starship Troopers (CG, based on the Heinlein novel)
> 8:00 AM Mummies Alive (rerun)
> 8:30 AM Extreme Ghostbusters (rerun)
>
> Friday (All times Eastern):
> 7:00 AM Double Dragon (rerun)
> 7:30 AM Ramdo (?)
> 8:00 AM Street Sharks (rerun)
> 8:30 AM Roswell Conspiracies (action/adventure... ?) >>
>
Starship
can't
> Sci-Fi grab things like Space Sentinels, The New Adventures of Flash
Gordon,
> Mighty Orbots, Gigantor, Technoman, Star Blazers, Robotech, Fantastic
Voyage,
> Starcom, Journey to the Center of the Earth and other shows that more
fit the
been one big
> disappintment.
I think they got it mainly because of Starship Troopers and Rosswell.
But if you think deeply about all the series, they could all pass as
sci-fi just as much as those non sci-fi horror movies Sci-Fi Channel
keeps showing.
Actually, the BKN block fits in nicely compared to the 2 hour
infomercial block that Sci-Fi dropped on Animation Station!
Monster Rancher is one of my favorite shows. I hope they keep it.
Oh yeah. Sci-Fi Ch. is screwed up. They're not showing the Friday
episodes of Monster Rancher, Starship Troopers, Mummies Alive, and
Extreme Ghostbusters because they're shoving the weekend BKN stuff to
Friday! And my local station is dropping the BKN Bulldog block next
week! :( Every week that goes by, people that don't get BKN Bulldog
will miss 1 episode a week unless Sci-Fi Ch. straightens out their
schedule...
For those who don't know how BKN program blocks work, when a station
buys the block, they get 2 hours of programming to show every weekday,
and 2 hours of programming to show on either Saturday or Sunday.
Gogeta
gog...@goplay.com
chrism...@webtv.net (Chris Sobieniak) wrote:
> Too bad this isn't anything like the ol' Animation Station from their
> heydays. One toon they should've gottne was Astro Boy, as well as
those
> other classic Japanese anime and sentai shows.
>
> I'm also very dissapointed at their cancellation of MST3K, that was
> perhaps the worst think Sci-Fi has ever done. Really messes
everything
> they've achieved for the past seven years.
>
> Now they're going to show reruns of some stupid Rambo toon,
> <sarcastic>how great</sarcastic>, what's next, a Kevin Costner movie
> marathon?
>
> Chris S.
BKN is preselected 2 hours of shows that channels buy. Sci-Fi Channel
can't change BKN.
At least Rambo is classic animation. And is good for laughs. :P
Sci-Fi should make a new channel for their horror stuff.
gog...@goplay.com
"Star Saber" <star...@mindSPAMBUSTERspring.com> wrote:
>
>
> Danger X <gal...@efni.com> wrote in article
> <PbIx3.460$6z3...@198.235.216.4>...
> >
of
> > Starship
> > > Troopers and possibly Roswell Conspiracies, the rest don't fit.
Why
> can't
> > > Sci-Fi grab things like Space Sentinels, The New Adventures of
Flash
> > Gordon,
> > > Mighty Orbots, Gigantor, Technoman, Star Blazers, Robotech,
Fantastic
> > Voyage,
> > > Starcom, Journey to the Center of the Earth and other shows that
more
> fit
> > the
> > > theme of Sci-Fi Channel?
>
awhile
> back during their "CartoonQuest/Animation Station" block.
Unfortunately,
> they never did show MIGHTY ORBOTS or STAR BLAZERS but they DID have
LAND OF
> THE LOST (the original), BIONIC SIX, and DROIDS/EWOKS.
> They also used to show DEFENDERS OF THE EARTH and TRANSFORMERS. :)
>
genre??)
Mummies Alive! also fits if you think about it long enough.
gog...@goplay.com
WHAT!?!?!?! How can you say there's no Bug blood!? In the first episode
someone got splattered by blood and some unidentifiable body
parts/chunks! And in Friday's episode (only on syndication because Sci-
Fi Ch. is screwed up), the reporter guy and his surrounding area was
splattered by blood when he shot a flying Bug with a gernade launcher!
The blood is green. Insects don't usually have red blood anyway.
gog...@goplay.com
tbr...@trinity.edu wrote:
> Enrique Conty started this whole mess when he posted the following
> schedule for BKN, courtesy of the Sci-Fi Channel:
>
> 7:00 AM Monster Rancher (anime, based on
> videogame)
> 7:30 AM Starship Troopers (CG, based on the
> Heinlein novel)
> 8:00 AM Mummies Alive (rerun)
> 8:30 AM Extreme Ghostbusters (rerun)
>
> Friday (All times Eastern):
> 7:00 AM Double Dragon (rerun)
> 7:30 AM Ramdo (?)
> 8:00 AM Street Sharks (rerun)
> adventure... ?)
>
> co...@enteract.com (Enrique Conty) wrote:
> > In article <19990827224355...@ng-fz1.aol.com>,
> > Neil4161 <neil...@aol.com> wrote:
Adventures
> > >of Flash Gordon, Mighty Orbots, Gigantor, Technoman, Star Blazers,
> > >Robotech, Fantastic Voyage, Starcom, Journey to the Center of the
> > >Earth and other shows that more fit the theme of Sci-Fi Channel?
> >
> > few years... then there's the Filmation titles, whose rights
> > are a pain to track down, since you basically have to hunt them down
> > on a per-show basis.
>
> Actually, there is hope for Starcom. I first caught the series when
it
> re-aired as part of BKN back in fall 1995. If they're desperate for
> programming, Starcom may get another limited run.
>
> Robotech had a nice little run on the weekday Toonami, but now it's
been
> exiled to the Sunday morning Midnight Run of Toonam, when guys like me
> are watching Saturday Anime of Sci-Fi.
You're still watching that? I used to tape it every Saturday a few
years abo till I noticed they only have 15 things to show and it keeps
looping over and over...
Also, they censor things like Mai's butt for no reason, yet they have
those "Pick up the phone!" ads!
> I'd love to see Teknoman on Toonami (it'd single-handedly boost the
> quality of the current lineup), with news English dubs in the spirit
of
> the never-before-seen-in-America eps of Sailor Moon and Reboot.
>
> > But yeah, this new cartoon lineup leaves a lot to be desired.
>
> Hey! With X-Ghostbusters, it's already one step ahead of Toonami and
> Sci-Fi's old animation block. (Hate to piss off the fans of Voltron,
> Thundercats, and DBZ... but PLEASE!)
XGB? Yuck! I used to say to myself "This show's not too bad!", till I
saw the awsome The Real Ghostbusters again! RGB has COLOR! XGB, in
night scenes colors keep changing from different angles like a Super
Gameboy game. And the characters in RGB aren't deformed (except for
some episodes). By the way, The Real Ghostbusters is on the Fox Family
Channel weekday mornings.
You can check http://www.gist.com/ for TV schedules. I think GIST is
the most accurate of all the sites, even though it's not always
accurate. :P
gog...@goplay.com
gca...@aol.combination (S.J.Carras) wrote:
> >Subject: BKN moves to Sci-Fi Channel this morning.
> >From: co...@enteract.com (Enrique Conty)
> >Date: Fri, 27 August 1999 05:13 PM EDT
> >Message-id: <7q6v0s$cj9$1...@eve.enteract.com>
> >
> >
> >new weekday morning animation block, starting on Monday, August 30th.
> >The following is from the SFC Schedulebot.
> >
> >7:00 AM Monster Rancher (anime, based on videogame)
> >7:30 AM Starship Troopers (CG, based on the Heinlein novel)
> >8:00 AM Mummies Alive (rerun)
> >8:30 AM Extreme Ghostbusters (rerun)
> >
> >Friday (All times Eastern):
> >7:00 AM Double Dragon (rerun)
> >7:30 AM Ramdo (?)
> >8:00 AM Street Sharks (rerun)
> >
> >--
> >
>
> Er, what is "BKN?;-)?
Bohbot Kids Network..... I spent more than half an hour writing a very
detailed descriptions on the 2 BKN blocks. But it was lost thanks to
Deja.....
Grrrr...
Kip Williams
> Sci-Fi should make a new channel for their horror stuff.
That makes sense to me. I never thought of horror as being science
fiction. Of course, to many people, science fiction includes fantasy
too. I'd be for bending the definition to include good stuff of such
side genres (side genres to science fiction; separate genres in their
own right), but the rule here seems to be to break down the definition
in order to include any crap with special effects in it.
Sith Ranma
>someone got splattered by blood and some unidentifiable body
>parts/chunks!
Great, I saw that episode and don't remember ANY blood being splattered, served
in cocktails, or otherwise. Now I gotta wait until the whole thing re-runs...
> And in Friday's episode (only on syndication because Sci-
>Fi Ch. is screwed up), the reporter guy and his surrounding area was
>splattered by blood when he shot a flying Bug with a gernade launcher!
What Friday episode? Sci-Fi's not supposed to show it then.
>The blood is green. Insects don't usually have red blood anyway.
>
>
Just like in the film, though the episodes I've seen so far are:
Roughnecks shoot.
Bugs reel under the fire.
Bugs advance.
Roughnecks shoot some more.
Bugs drop down from looking so tired of getting shot at, but no blood.
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V
@(^.^)@
tbr...@trinity.edu
gog...@goplay.com wrote:
> In article <7qchu7$m8d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> tbr...@trinity.edu wrote:
> > Enrique Conty started this whole mess when he posted the following
> > schedule for BKN, courtesy of the Sci-Fi Channel:
> >
> > 7:00 AM Monster Rancher (anime, based on
> > videogame)
> > 7:30 AM Starship Troopers (CG, based on
the
> > Heinlein novel)
> > 8:00 AM Mummies Alive (rerun)
> > 8:30 AM Extreme Ghostbusters (rerun)
> >
> > Friday (All times Eastern):
> > 7:00 AM Double Dragon (rerun)
> > 7:30 AM Ramdo (?)
> > 8:00 AM Street Sharks (rerun)
Guess they can only fanserve so much ;)
> > I'd love to see Teknoman on Toonami (it'd single-handedly boost the
> > quality of the current lineup), with news English dubs in the spirit
> of
> > the never-before-seen-in-America eps of Sailor Moon and Reboot.
> >
> > > But yeah, this new cartoon lineup leaves a lot to be desired.
> >
> > Hey! With X-Ghostbusters, it's already one step ahead of Toonami
and
> > Sci-Fi's old animation block. (Hate to piss off the fans of Voltron,
> > Thundercats, and DBZ... but PLEASE!)
>
> XGB? Yuck! I used to say to myself "This show's not too bad!", till I
> saw the awsome The Real Ghostbusters again! RGB has COLOR! XGB, in
> night scenes colors keep changing from different angles like a Super
> Gameboy game. And the characters in RGB aren't deformed (except for
> some episodes). By the way, The Real Ghostbusters is on the Fox Family
> Channel weekday mornings.
XGB's character designs come from the horrid influence of Everett Peck,
if memory serves. Visually, XGB always has been crap, but the
consistency of the writing and the appeal of the characters improve
upon the original Ghostbusters concept (despite what the B5 advocates
say <g>).
Terrence Briggs
Peace to you...
tbr...@trinity.edu
sith...@aol.comlink (Sith Ranma) wrote:
> >WHAT!?!?!?! How can you say there's no Bug blood!? In the first
episode
> >someone got splattered by blood and some unidentifiable body
> >parts/chunks!
>
> Great, I saw that episode and don't remember ANY blood being
splattered, served
> in cocktails, or otherwise. Now I gotta wait until the whole thing
re-runs...
For most of the episode, bullets never made contact with the bugs. In
ONE instance, a bug exploded offscreen and the emerald innards mussed
up a Roughneck's suit.
> > And in Friday's episode (only on syndication because Sci-
> >Fi Ch. is screwed up), the reporter guy and his surrounding area was
> >splattered by blood when he shot a flying Bug with a gernade
launcher!
>
> What Friday episode? Sci-Fi's not supposed to show it then.
If you caught the syndie run of ST, Friday's ep concerned...uh...more
bugs blowing up :)
> >The blood is green. Insects don't usually have red blood anyway.
> >
> Just like in the film, though the episodes I've seen so far are:
>
> Roughnecks shoot.
> Bugs reel under the fire.
> Bugs advance.
> Roughnecks shoot some more.
> Bugs drop down from looking so tired of getting shot at, but no blood.
For the film, the bugs were a relentless force. You were LUCKY if you
could take down more than one with all of your limbs intact :)
Here, bugs very occassionally leap onto some descript roughnecks and
their armor. Exosquad, this ain't.
Terrence Briggs
Sith Ranma
>For most of the episode, bullets never made contact with the bugs. In
>ONE instance, a bug exploded offscreen and the emerald innards mussed
>up a Roughneck's suit.
>
>
Lucky me, they re-ran Wednesday's episode, and to my surprise, Bug blood was
splashed... but then, this time around, I didn't blink...
>If you caught the syndie run of ST, Friday's ep concerned...uh...more
>bugs blowing up :)
And that is where? When? Knowing my luck, I probably can't get it (I'm still
trying to find where the WB changed stations to).
>For the film, the bugs were a relentless force. You were LUCKY if you
>could take down more than one with all of your limbs intact :)
>
>Here, bugs very occassionally leap onto some descript roughnecks and
>their armor. Exosquad, this ain't.
>
>
Mmm-boy, I miss that show, though the animation left something to be desired.
Now I can only wonder when (or if) Dizzy Flores will bite the big one as per
the novel and film.
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@(^.^)@
Kip Williams
designs panned. It's an interesting coincidence, because I have been
viewing episodes of "Duckman" and being impressed with how
uncompromising the character designs are. They are unusual for
animation, and to these eyes, they are a treat and a relief from the
sameness of most other shows.
The remarkable wit of Duckman is another issue, but I thought I'd
mention that as well. Too bad nobody's showing the series right now.
tbr...@trinity.edu
sith...@aol.comlink (Sith Ranma) wrote:
> >From: tbr...@trinity.edu
>
> >For most of the episode, bullets never made contact with the bugs.
In
> >ONE instance, a bug exploded offscreen and the emerald innards mussed
> >up a Roughneck's suit.
> >
> >
>
> Lucky me, they re-ran Wednesday's episode, and to my surprise, Bug
blood was
> splashed... but then, this time around, I didn't blink...
Heh. Let's hear it for hard-core media criticism :)
But seriously, later eps eliminated the problem of the "ghost bugs" to
a certain degree. So if you miss one instance of green gore, there are
plenty of others.
> >If you caught the syndie run of ST, Friday's ep concerned...uh...more
> >bugs blowing up :)
>
> And that is where? When? Knowing my luck, I probably can't get it
(I'm still
> trying to find where the WB changed stations to).
There's your problem. Here in San Antonio, it plays on the WB
affiliate. In your town, it might be some other affiliate. See if
your newspaper of TV Guide magazine says something. (Or, if you're
feeling trusting, tell me what city you're in and I'll see what I can
dig up).
> >For the film, the bugs were a relentless force. You were LUCKY if
you
> >could take down more than one with all of your limbs intact :)
> >
> >Here, bugs very occassionally leap onto some descript roughnecks and
> >their armor. Exosquad, this ain't.
> >
> >
>
> Mmm-boy, I miss that show, though the animation left something to be
desired.
Definitely. I think Akom's B-team worked on that show.
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> Now I can only wonder when (or if) Dizzy Flores will bite the big one
as per
> the novel and film.
Some people look for writers. Others look for the decimation of major
characters. Maybe Michael Reaves will be writing that ep (the show's
on his resumay [phonetic]).
Terrence Briggs
Peace to you...
tbr...@trinity.edu
ki...@SPAMAWAYhome.com wrote:
> This is the second time recently I've seen Everett Peck's character
> designs panned.
I believe that was me both times :)
I mentioned it before during a discussion on Roswell Conspiracies.
> It's an interesting coincidence, because I have been
> viewing episodes of "Duckman" and being impressed with how
> uncompromising the character designs are. They are unusual for
> animation, and to these eyes, they are a treat and a relief from the
> sameness of most other shows.
Peck's character design were fine for Duckman, a cartoon in the purest
sense of the word. They aren't so fine for action/adventure cartoons
with human beings limited to more realistic [read: stiff] movements.
The ghost designs were also rather unappealing in my eyes. In both
instances, I prefer the original GB. You'll also note Peck's influence
in Men in Black and Godzilla, and I don't like either's look.
It's like asking Matt Groening to handle the character designs for
Ninja Scroll or the Batman/Superman adventures. His style may be fine
for cartoons such as Simspons and Futurama, but they wouldn't make for
an appealing look in the aforementioned action series.
> The remarkable wit of Duckman is another issue, but I thought I'd
> mention that as well. Too bad nobody's showing the series right now.
Agreed. I got my first glimpse of Duckman during the ass end of its
very extended run of reruns. I wasn't able to record any episodes
until the good ones had already aired however :P
Sith Ranma
>There's your problem. Here in San Antonio, it plays on the WB
>affiliate. In your town, it might be some other affiliate. See if
>your newspaper of TV Guide magazine says something. (Or, if you're
>feeling trusting, tell me what city you're in and I'll see what I can
>dig up).
>
>
Um... I'm at... Planet P, yeah that's the ticket! Can't even get the Weather
Channel here (now you KNOW that's rough)...
I look forward to the former moreso than the latter, but considering how
faithful this new series is to the novel, I'm just wondering how her death will
be worked into the overall story.
Well, the show is somewhat faithful. The novel was told in first person (I
feel it was more about Rico's affected experiences in war rather than Bug
battle after Bug battle), and personally, I'd imagined that the Mobile Infantry
powered armor would look like it had when the Roughnecks were encased in those
drop-armor suits, just before launching to the planet below in the first
episode. But that's just me...
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gog...@goplay.com
sith...@aol.comlink (Sith Ranma) wrote:
> >WHAT!?!?!?! How can you say there's no Bug blood!? In the first
episode
> >someone got splattered by blood and some unidentifiable body
> >parts/chunks!
>
> Great, I saw that episode and don't remember ANY blood being
splattered, served
> in cocktails, or otherwise. Now I gotta wait until the whole thing
re-runs...
>
> >Fi Ch. is screwed up), the reporter guy and his surrounding area was
> >splattered by blood when he shot a flying Bug with a gernade
launcher!
>
> What Friday episode? Sci-Fi's not supposed to show it then.
>
> >
> >
>
> Just like in the film, though the episodes I've seen so far are:
>
> Roughnecks shoot.
> Bugs reel under the fire.
> Bugs advance.
> Roughnecks shoot some more.
> Bugs drop down from looking so tired of getting shot at, but no blood.
> V
> @(^.^)@
Sci Fi is robbing it's viewers of the Friday block. Howerver BKN on
syndication usually gets all days. My local station now only shows
Monster Rancher now. (I like MR better anyway) So I don't get Starship
Troopers on Friday either.
The episode I saw with the camera guy shooting the bug sounds like the
episode listed as "Basic Training" scheduled to be played this week on
Sci Fi. I could be wrong since SST doesn't have episode names on TV.
This is Sci Fi's schedule:
Monday-Thurday: Monster Rancher, Starship Troopers, Mummies Alive, and
Extreme Ghostbusters
Friday: Double Dragon, Rambo The Force of Freedom, Street Sharks,
Roswell Conspiraces
What it SHOULD be:
Monday-Friday:Monster Rancher, Starship Troopers, Mummies Alive, and
Extreme Ghostbusters
Saturday and/or Sunday: Double Dragon, Rambo The Force of Freedom,
Street Sharks, Roswell Conspiraces
But Sci Fi doesn't seen to want to get rid of anything on their weekend
schedule.
gog...@goplay.com
> Peace to you...
I like the RGB writing better. It's easier for XGB to be consistant if
there's only 1 season before looping inn re-runs. RGB lasted for many
years.
Also I don't like what they did to the characters that came from RGB.
As far as I know NONE of Janine's many forms from RGB are as dull and
boring as XGB. Also, just because the RGB are in their 40's-50's
doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be clumsy.
In RGB it sounds like all the lines are ad-libbed. It sounds more real.
Not just someone reading a script.
RGB had some really interesting episodes like the "Hole in the Wall
Gang", that had a house with ghosts coming out of any hole.
I think the Junior Ghostbusters from later episodes RGB should have
grown up to be the new Ghostbusters. It would have made more sense than
4 college students that happened to take Egon's.
And RGB had the Stay Puft (TM) Marshmellow Man!
On technology side of GB... The XGB website says that the new Ghost
Traps hold one ghost per trap. The Real ones could hold more than one,
and 1 large ghost can be put into multiple traps. Seems like a
downgrade there.
And in XGB with the new Proton Packs their always running out of power
and changing those cartridges. In both series they mention that the
Proton Packs are powered by a small nuclear reactor. Are those
cartridges just to make the intro look cooler?
I think I've seen all the episodes of XGB. I used to like it. But after
seeing several episodes of RGB, I noticed that they forgot several
things that happened in the RGB. And that animation has got to go.
Gogeta
tbr...@trinity.edu
gog...@goplay.com wrote:
> In article <7r22ld$ojp$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> tbr...@trinity.edu wrote:
> > In article <7qq7ge$jab$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > gog...@goplay.com wrote:
> > > In article <7qchu7$m8d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > > tbr...@trinity.edu wrote:
> >
> > XGB's character designs come from the horrid influence of Everett
> Peck,
> > if memory serves. Visually, XGB always has been crap, but the
> > consistency of the writing and the appeal of the characters improve
> > upon the original Ghostbusters concept (despite what the B5
advocates
> > say <g>).
> >
> > Terrence Briggs
> > Peace to you...
>
> I like the RGB writing better. It's easier for XGB to be consistant if
> there's only 1 season before looping inn re-runs. RGB lasted for many
> years.
I've argued that XGB's batting average over its 40-episode run is
superior to ANY 40 episodes of RGB.
> Also I don't like what they did to the characters that came from RGB.
> As far as I know NONE of Janine's many forms from RGB are as dull and
> boring as XGB. <
I never said I liked the character designs for XGB.
> Also, just because the RGB are in their 40's-50's
> doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be clumsy.
You're referring to the two-part return-of-the-original Ghostbusters
episode? That was the least impressive episode of XGB's run, IMO.
> In RGB it sounds like all the lines are ad-libbed. It sounds more
real. Not just someone reading a script. <
Depends on the episode. Most of XGB's lines sounded fine to me. The
average RGB dialogue was actually rather blah to me. The worst
episodes (particularly those from the ABC run) are some of the worst
script reads you could imagine.
> RGB had some really interesting episodes like the "Hole in the Wall
> Gang", that had a house with ghosts coming out of any hole.
And XGB had some really interesting episodes, too. I loved
RGB's "Doctor, Doctor" and "Ghostbuster of the Year". I also liked a
few other episodes here and there -- about 8 or 9 in all. I compare
that to the 25+ episodes of XGB I recorded.
> I think the Junior Ghostbusters from later episodes RGB should have
> grown up to be the new Ghostbusters. It would have made more sense
than
> 4 college students that happened to take Egon's.
It's no stretch for me to say that those four college students were
infinitely more appealing as characters than those Junior
Ghostbusters. Of course, that's more of a conceptual concern than one
which directly affects the execution of the series as a whole, or even
on an episodic basis.
> And RGB had the Stay Puft (TM) Marshmellow Man!
Cool.
> On technology side of GB... The XGB website says that the new Ghost
> Traps hold one ghost per trap. The Real ones could hold more than one,
> and 1 large ghost can be put into multiple traps. Seems like a
> downgrade there.
That's a conceptual problem.
> And in XGB with the new Proton Packs their always running out of power
> and changing those cartridges. In both series they mention that the
> Proton Packs are powered by a small nuclear reactor. Are those
> cartridges just to make the intro look cooler?
Pretty much. It coulkd be debated which is more involving as an action
concept: unlimited ammunition where running out is just a convenient
plot point, or limited ammunition where shortages are a regular
occurence?
> I think I've seen all the episodes of XGB. I used to like it. But
after seeing several episodes of RGB, I noticed that they forgot several
things that happened in the RGB. <
SO did I, but I figured the new stuff made for a more involving show.
>And that animation has got to go. <
Agreed. Then again, no American series seems to animate their TV shows
in Japan anymore :(
Terrence Briggs
Peace to you
kd...@home.com
>> Traps hold one ghost per trap. The Real ones could hold more than one,
>> and 1 large ghost can be put into multiple traps. Seems like a
>> downgrade there.
their molecules mix and they're combined forever('Drool, the dog faced Goblin')
but on numerous occasions they've trapped and released multiple ghosts. On
many occasions in RGB they've done 'one ghost per trap' and other times they
did multiple ghost in a single trap(and one episode(the first Halloween one)
while marching up the stairs they put one ghost per trap, and then after
stuck an entire rooftop full of ghosts into one trap).
>
>> And in XGB with the new Proton Packs their always running out of power
>> and changing those cartridges. In both series they mention that the
>> Proton Packs are powered by a small nuclear reactor. Are those
>> cartridges just to make the intro look cooler?
In RGB the power supply of the proton packs fluctuated. In a few
episodes they did run out of power, and on a few occasions they
failed because they weren't recharged, and other times they ended
up being used as alternate power sources. IMO, in both series the
capabilities of the equipment depended entirely on the plot, and were
completely mutable otherwise(like in the XGB episode where Janine
used one of the old proton packs, which happened to be strapped to
a statue of Peter, with one the new traps, which was stated in the
first episode as not being able to happen). I liked both series.
Kerry
Kerry D. Lee
kd...@home.com
Great, so now it's battle of the cliche men. - Lina Inverse, Slayers 1
Ponsonby Britt, O.B.E.
>>And that animation has got to go. <
>
>in Japan anymore :(
Tokyo Movie Shinshi (I *think* it's Shinshi) is in Japan. Spawn uses
TMS for every episode, and Batman/Superman use them once in a while.
There are probably other shows as well.
-Peter Destructo
"Anything less would be... uncivilized." - Cave Guy, Right Guard
commercial (inside my head)
AOL IM: sgkoby <-- good
ICQ: 48622775 <-- better
The trash heap has spoken. Nyeh!
Batya
I think I've seen all the episodes of XGB. I used to like it.
But after
> seeing several episodes of RGB, I noticed that they forgot several
> things that happened in the RGB. And that animation has got to go.
>
> Gogeta
Hey, give 'em some props. They remembered the Grundel.
Batya
--
"Hey, kid, I'd like to help you, but . . ."
"Then can you loan me a quart of motor oil and nine feet of
chain link
fence?"
- "Histeria"
tbr...@trinity.edu
Ponsonby Britt, O.B.E. <ko...@softhome.net.net.net> wrote:
> Quoth tbr...@trinity.edu:
> >>And that animation has got to go. <
> >
shows
> >in Japan anymore :(
>
> Tokyo Movie Shinshi (I *think* it's Shinshi)
Shinsa. Or Shinsha. I forget :)
> is in Japan. Spawn uses
> TMS for every episode, and Batman/Superman use them once in a while.
> There are probably other shows as well.
Spawn used Madhouse during its second season. Have they moved up to
TMS?
Bat/Sup haven't used TMS since "World's Finest", if I recall. Heck,
Batman Beyond's been animated entirely by Koko/Dong Yang, if I recall.
Any hidden gems I'm missing?
Terrence Briggs
Peace to you...
> -Peter Destructo
> "Anything less would be... uncivilized." - Cave Guy, Right Guard
> commercial (inside my head)
>
> AOL IM: sgkoby <-- good
> ICQ: 48622775 <-- better
> The trash heap has spoken. Nyeh!
>
gog...@goplay.com
Ponsonby Britt, O.B.E. <ko...@softhome.net.net.net> wrote:
> Quoth tbr...@trinity.edu:
> >
shows
> >in Japan anymore :(
>
> TMS for every episode, and Batman/Superman use them once in a while.
> There are probably other shows as well.
>
> "Anything less would be... uncivilized." - Cave Guy, Right Guard
> commercial (inside my head)
Batman/Superman uses TMS? I thought that was all WB. I know that the
Batman Beyond movie is being animated by TMS. It's rare that American
series are animated there now.
Before most series were animated in either Japan or Korea.
Enrique Conty
>Batman/Superman uses TMS? I thought that was all WB.
As far as I know, WB TV animation doesn't do any animation in-house,
nothing past storyboarding anyway. They use, as you say, Japanese or
Korean animation studios. TMS (Tokyo Movie Shinsha) is a Japanese
animation studio that has found a niche subcontracting animation for
the US market.
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E n r i q u e C o n t y
co...@enteract.com
http://www.enteract.com/~conty/
tbr...@trinity.edu
gog...@goplay.com wrote:
> In article <37e0f4c...@newshost.li.net>,
> Ponsonby Britt, O.B.E. <ko...@softhome.net.net.net> wrote:
> > Quoth tbr...@trinity.edu:
> > >
> shows
> > >in Japan anymore :(
> >
> > Tokyo Movie Shinshi (I *think* it's Shinshi) is in Japan. Spawn uses
> > TMS for every episode, and Batman/Superman use them once in a while.
> > There are probably other shows as well.
> >
> > -Peter Destructo
> > "Anything less would be... uncivilized." - Cave Guy, Right Guard
> > commercial (inside my head)
>
WB contracts the actual animation to studios in Asia. The good-looking
eps ("World's Finest", "Play Time", "Over the Edge") were sent to TMS :)
Pretty much all of the most recent episodes of Batman, Superman, and
(all of) Batman Beyond are done by Koko and Dong Yang, both Korean
animation houses.
> I know that the Batman Beyond movie is being animated by TMS. <
What movie? You have my attention already!
The only "movie" that comes to mind is the recently packaged home
video, which I believe was just the two-part series premiere. Koko did
that.
> It's rare that American series are animated there now.
>
> Before most series were animated in either Japan or Korea.
Most still are animated in Korea, if I recall. We're moving to China
and the Phillipines these days, though.
Bt you're pretty much backing up a statement I made earlier in this
thread. I can't think of a single series of American origin that's
using a Japanese studio, with the exception of Mickey Mouseworks
(Disney-Japan) and Spawn.
chance wolf
>In article <7s8530$d9m$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, <gog...@goplay.com> wrote:
>>Batman/Superman uses TMS? I thought that was all WB.
>
>nothing past storyboarding anyway. They use, as you say, Japanese or
>Korean animation studios. TMS (Tokyo Movie Shinsha) is a Japanese
>animation studio that has found a niche subcontracting animation for
>the US market.
Dong Yang, Koko Seoul, etc. nowadays, but Freelance N.Z., Fil-Cartoons,
Startoons and a fair bit of TMS earlier. I'm sure they'd love to use TMS
(which evidently has crews arranged in tiers - some better than others)
for everything, but when last I'd heard, their quotes were something
like 1/3rd to twice as much as the competition.
chance (still, how cost-effective can it be to save half your budget to call
40% retakes on KoKo's stuff??)
Note: This message contains three characters and one crackpot idea.
>Spawn used Madhouse during its second season. Have they moved up to
>TMS?
I rented the Spawn II DVD just to try out my computer's DVD player. It
sure as hell LOOKED like TMS, although the analog-to-digital transfer
could have used a little help -- it looked like it was copied from a
video. Someone online told me it was them animating it.
>Bat/Sup haven't used TMS since "World's Finest", if I recall. Heck,
>Batman Beyond's been animated entirely by Koko/Dong Yang, if I recall.
>Any hidden gems I'm missing?
Dong Yang have been the main folks animating Batman: The Animated
Series, The Adventures of Batman and Robin, Superman: The Animated
Series, The New Batman Adventures, (inhale) and Batman Beyond. I don't
know about BB specifically, but throughout all the series, TMS was
used for occasional "event" scripts, like major character origin
stories. I'm surprised WB didn't have them do "Rebirth"... I can't
read the credits on KWB! with my eyestraino-vision bite size TV and 2
head VCR.
Did TMS do "Apokalips...Now!"? I wouldn't be too surprised if they do
"Legacy", but WB has been known to throw us some curves ;)
-Peter Destructo
Ferguson- "It's time the Darling family moved into the 80s."
Clarissa- "It's the 90s, fergwad!"
Ferguson- "I know. The 80s were SO much better."
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>Batman/Superman uses TMS? I thought that was all WB. I know that the
>Batman Beyond movie is being animated by TMS. It's rare that American
>series are animated there now.
Read BATMAN: ANIMATED. It tells about the whole process.
Most episodes in the Batman family of series are animated by Dong
Yang. TMS did FEAT OF CLAY (pt. 2), HARLEY & IVY, NEVER FEAR, MEAN
SEASONS, OVER THE EDGE, TWO-FACE (pt. 1) GROWING PAINS, THE DEMON
WITHIN, a large portion of MASK OF THE PHANTASM, and probably a bunch
of others. In the early days of BTAS, WB had a much lower budget for
animation. AKOM, Lightbox, and other studios animated the ugliest
episodes. (AKOM did, for instance, THE CAT AND THE CLAW.)
gog...@goplay.com
> > Batman/Superman uses TMS? I thought that was all WB.
>
looking
> eps ("World's Finest", "Play Time", "Over the Edge") were sent to TMS
:)
>
> Pretty much all of the most recent episodes of Batman, Superman, and
> (all of) Batman Beyond are done by Koko and Dong Yang, both Korean
> animation houses.
>
>
>
> The only "movie" that comes to mind is the recently packaged home
> video, which I believe was just the two-part series premiere. Koko
did
> that.
I read that there's a Batman Beyond movie coming out on home video
soon. I also read a rumor that it might be in theaters first like Mask
of the Phantasm.
> > It's rare that American series are animated there now.
> >
> > Before most series were animated in either Japan or Korea.
>
> Most still are animated in Korea, if I recall. We're moving to China
> and the Phillipines these days, though.
>
> Bt you're pretty much backing up a statement I made earlier in this
> thread. I can't think of a single series of American origin that's
> using a Japanese studio, with the exception of Mickey Mouseworks
> (Disney-Japan) and Spawn.
Thunder Cats and Silver Hawks were animated in Japan a long time ago.
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<ko...@softhome.net.net.net> wrote:
> Quoth gog...@goplay.com:
> >Batman/Superman uses TMS? I thought that was all WB. I know that the
> >Batman Beyond movie is being animated by TMS. It's rare that American
> >series are animated there now.
>
>
> Most episodes in the Batman family of series are animated by Dong
> Yang. TMS did FEAT OF CLAY (pt. 2), HARLEY & IVY, NEVER FEAR, MEAN
> SEASONS, OVER THE EDGE, TWO-FACE (pt. 1) GROWING PAINS, THE DEMON
> WITHIN, a large portion of MASK OF THE PHANTASM, and probably a bunch
> of others. In the early days of BTAS, WB had a much lower budget for
> animation. AKOM, Lightbox, and other studios animated the ugliest
> episodes. (AKOM did, for instance, THE CAT AND THE CLAW.)
I recently saw an episode where Cat Woman was going to join a cult and
I thought that she was drawn horribly, is that The Cat And The Claw?
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gog...@goplay.com
Batya <ba...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> gog...@goplay.com wrote:
> I think I've seen all the episodes of XGB. I used to like it.
> But after
> > seeing several episodes of RGB, I noticed that they forgot several
> > things that happened in the RGB. And that animation has got to go.
> >
> > Gogeta
>
>
> Batya
Yeah. I respect them for that. But they forgot the Stay Puft
Marshmellow Man. :( Sam Hain is in the intro, but he's not in any
episode. I wonder why... They even made a toy of it.
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gog...@goplay.com wrote in message <7tr3ja$mik$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>I recently saw an episode where Cat Woman was going to join a cult
and
>I thought that she was drawn horribly, is that The Cat And The Claw?
"Cult of the Cat"
Mack the Knife
>>In the early days of BTAS, WB had a much lower budget for
>> animation. AKOM, Lightbox, and other studios animated the ugliest
>> episodes. (AKOM did, for instance, THE CAT AND THE CLAW.)
>
>I thought that she was drawn horribly, is that The Cat And The Claw?
Excuse me, that wasn't AKOM. AKOM did much, much better.
And no, the cult thing was CULT OF THE CAT.
-Peter Destructo
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tbr...@trinity.edu
Mack the Knife (Mack, not Jack) <ko...@softhome.net.net.net> wrote:
> gog...@goplay.com wrote:
> >>In the early days of BTAS, WB had a much lower budget for
> >> animation. AKOM, Lightbox, and other studios animated the ugliest
> >> episodes. (AKOM did, for instance, THE CAT AND THE CLAW.)
Never heard of Lightbox, but aren't you forgetting the good-looking
early eps? "On Leather Wings" was pretty early in the order, and
Spectrum's animation was incredible. Same goes for "Heart of
Ice". "Feat of Clay: Part 2" was TMS's master work, and I believe "Two-
Face" was pretty early in the order, too.
> >I recently saw an episode where Cat Woman was going to join a cult
and
> >I thought that she was drawn horribly, is that The Cat And The Claw?
>
> Excuse me, that wasn't AKOM. AKOM did much, much better.
>
> And no, the cult thing was CULT OF THE CAT.
Animated by Koko and Dong Yang, a reliable team of animators for the
Batman series (they've worked on darn near half of the series episodes).
And if AKOM's work was 'much, much better", how do you explain "Cat
Scratch Fever"? :)
Your complaint is with the new character design, not the animation
studio. If TMS had animated that ep, she would've looked the same.
The character models haven't changed much between Koko/DY and TMS.
> -Peter Destructo
>
> Prepare for a blast from my ethics ray!
Terrence Briggs
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