Snell is Back!!! Expect more crap about Monticello University.
Chip White
bandwidth, and the same false, misleading crap reposted over and over and
over by Snell, under his various aliases.
Regular readers will recognize the name "Ray Parker" as yet another of
Snell's aliases... which, of course, he adamantly denies, just as he denies
that he is AJ Nock, Barton Stone, "subject matter", and all of the others.
If you have any doubt, I would point out that "Ray Parker" has never posted
anywhere on Usenet except in alt.education.distance, and has only appeared
at the same time as Snell aliases, and happens to be in the Kansas City
area, and happens to use the same ISP as Snell, and happens to dial into the
same POP, and happens to sound remarkably like Snell, with the same
phrasing, same arguments, and same defense of bogus institutions. While this
isn't conclusive *proof* that he's Snell, the coincidences sure paint a
strong case in this direction.
For those who don't know who Snell is, he's the "President" of the esteemed
"Monticello University", which, according to one of Snell's clerks, has no
physical presence anywhere in the universe, no faculty members other than "a
couple of people who know about law", and less than 100 students (as of a
couple of months ago).
Monticello claims to be located in Hawaii. It's address there is a post
office box at a mail receiving service. It claims to be domiciled in
Canada. The address there is a secretarial service. The actual physical
offices are either in, or next to, the "Snell Insurance Agency", owned until
recently by Snell, and recently sold... to someone that Snell claims is his
son.
Snell, while admitting that he's the "President" of "Monticello University",
claims that Education Management Associates, the "management firm" for
Monticello, isn't owned by Snell. THis might be true on paper, but it is
esentially a transparent connection. Snell misrepresented the nature of his
"Education Management Associates" to the Kansas Department of Proprietary
Schools by representing that EMA was just a "registrar" for Monticello. In
contrast to this assertion, Snell's clerk represented that all student work
is mailed from and graded by people in the Kansas offices. All student
contact with "faculty" is done by calling the Kansas offices.
In spite of dozens of requests to answer basic questions (including names
and qualifications of faculty, and Snell's own qualifications), Snell and
his alters have steadfastly evaded all opportunities to tell the truth about
Monticello.
This school, according to the Kansas Department of Proprietary Schools, is
*not* operating legally in Kansas if it is, in fact, providing any
educational services from Kansas. It is not accredited by any recognized
agency. (Note that Snell's favorite rejoinder to this is to point out that
British schools, none of which operate on US soil, aren't accredited...
this, of course, is a completely irrelevent argument.) Monticello's degrees
and/or credits cannot be transferred to any regionally accredited school.
(Snell claims otherwise, but refuses to divulge the names of any of the
schools he claims have done so.)
So.... I encourage everyone to, as the "Gang of x" has done, do their own
research and verify the above facts before even considering such a
questionable program. There are many, many alternatives that are *much*
better than Monticello.
Here we go again, folks.
4op...@my-dejanews.com
him. See what happens when I lose the edge SA, I lose vigilence. Thanks to
Chip for staying the course. Boy, you are good. max
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> Guess that makes me the bozo. So what's new? And I asked Huber to be nice to
> him. See what happens when I lose the edge SA, I lose vigilence. Thanks to
> Chip for staying the course. Boy, you are good. max
>
> In article <6tjlki$9...@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>,
> Chip White <ch...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Unfortunately, Les Snell is back again. We're sure to have more wasted
> > bandwidth, and the same false, misleading crap reposted over and over and
> > over by Snell, under his various aliases.
A lesson for us all. We must always be vigilant. We must always keep our guard
up. We never know where one of him will show up next, or when. (Or why.)
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Wm. Dennis Huber
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Steve Levicoff
>A lesson for us all. We must always be vigilant. We must always keep
>our guard up. We never know where one of him will show up next, or
>when. (Or why.)
Wait a second . . . Are we talking about Les Snell or Satan?
Or (big drum roll) . . . Are they the same?
"Beloved, do not believe every newsgroup writer, but test the writers
to see whether they are from regionally accredited schools; because
many false university presidents have gone out into the world" (1 John
4:1, paraphrased).
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Chip White
levi...@ix.netcom.com(Steve Levicoff) wrote:
>"Beloved, do not believe every newsgroup writer, but test the writers
>to see whether they are from regionally accredited schools; because
>many false university presidents have gone out into the world" (1 John
>4:1, paraphrased).
>
This is the first "laugh out loud" post I've read on a.e.d. in at least a week
or so. Kudos, Steve!
Chip White
>
>"Beloved, do not believe every newsgroup writer, but test the writers
>to see whether they are from regionally accredited schools; because
>many false university presidents have gone out into the world" (1 John
>4:1, paraphrased).
On second thought, does "false university president" mean "president of a
university that is false (fraudulent), or does it mean "someone masquerading
as the president of a university (false/fraudulent or otherwise?)
Deep philosophical questions, these.
Steve Levicoff
The first. Remember, the quote should be interpreted in the context of
Les Snell.
WDH...@my-dejanews.com
>
> >A lesson for us all. We must always be vigilant. We must always keep
> >our guard up. We never know where one of him will show up next, or
> >when. (Or why.)
>
> Wait a second . . . Are we talking about Les Snell or Satan?
>
> Or (big drum roll) . . . Are they the same?
>
> to see whether they are from regionally accredited schools; because
> many false university presidents have gone out into the world" (1 John
> 4:1, paraphrased).
>
Is that John *Bear*, 1st Edition, chapter 4, page 1?
Steve Levicoff
>> "Beloved, do not believe every newsgroup writer, but test the
>> writers to see whether they are from regionally accredited schools;
>> because many false university presidents have gone out into the
>> world" (1 John 4:1, paraphrased).
>
>Is that John *Bear*, 1st Edition, chapter 4, page 1?
Exactly. It is a little known fact that John's first edition as
written entirely in King James English.
It was not until the third edition that he began to write in
contemporary San Franciscan. This, of course, became known as "The
Berkeley Edition."
John Bear
>Exactly. It is a little known fact that John's first edition was written
entirely in King James English.
John replies:
He's right, you know.
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LOL!!!
Patrick Morris
University Without Walls really was the trend setter and had form.