The Whole Argentine Article for Karyn
C
(out of context of course) to try to get NST banned from Argentina.
While SGI had kissed lots of butt in the Argentine government it
wasn't enough to get NST permanently banished like they wanted.
If only the Argentine authorities had access to some of the pre-1991
utterances by Daisaku AlQaeda hmself that discussed exactly the same
thing...
Special thanks to Charles for posting this a long time ago
From:
cbarrett@*****
The following article is translated by me from Sen Zetsu, the internal N.S.
Argentina organ, issue no. 3, September 1997. Although I believe the
translation to be entirely accurate, it is of course possible that I made
mistakes. If anyone would like to see the scanned original, I'll send it to
you back channel.-- Charles Barrett
Member's Questions and Reverend Dorei Ito's Answers Sep. 17, 1997
Members: The majority of today's Nichiren Shoshu members have an erroneous
conception of what is meant by mercy. We have the cultural concept of what
mercy means in Christianity, and also we know the erroneous meaning the Soka
Gakkai taught us. Could you explain to us what mercy is in Nichiren Shoshu
Buddhism?
Reverend Dorei Ito: It is very difficult to try to define it briefly. Yes, we
can talk about the differences between the mercy that the Buddha possesses and
that of each one of us in this society. In the Gosho, on various occasions,
Nichiren Daishonin Sama explains the meaning of Buddhist mercy, and says that
it is the act of saving all living beings through teaching the Correct Law of
Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo . There is no mercy greater than this. That is to say, to
teach others the True Law is the greatest mercy. Nichiren Daishonin teaches us
that the mercy that He possesses is the Supreme Mercy among all human beings.
To do Shakubuku is to warn about slander. When one does Shakubuku and
Reshakubuku, one is warning about slander and is refuting an incorrect
teaching. Through the Shakubuku of the Buddha one manifests his Great Mercy.
Through his Great Mercy (Dai Jihi) Nichiren Daishonin left us the Daimoku,
that is the invocation of Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, and revealed the Dai-Gohonzon.
Now let's proceed to analyze the mercy which we, as common mortals, manifest
in society. To do it, let's start with the Teachings of the Daishonin Sama.
To point out [sic] a person whose way of thinking is wrong (based on an
incorrect teaching or on a heretical religion) is to do Shakubuku, and that is
the way in which we show our greatest mercy (Supreme Mercy of the Buddha). In
other words, the greatest mercy to which we common mortals can aspire is that
which comes from doing Shakubuku. All of the above, of course, is also
applicable to Reshakubuku.
Continuing with the analysis of the mercy of the common people in a society,
we can say that the love with which parents raise their children is mercy. In
general, the parents love their children and want to protect them and educate
them well. Of course there are exceptions. But in general, through the love
that they put into caring for their children, their mercy is demonstrated.
Some a little more than others, but all parents love their children. Those
people who do not show mercy in the form of love for their children, in
general, also will not have the intention of having them, and don't try to
have them. If their lack of love is real, they simply won't have children.
Some, because of their lack of mercy, abandon their children.
Members: Is their a relation between love and Buddhist mercy (Jihi)?
Reverend Ito: Yes, but it is not the same. For example: I love my son and he
makes a mistake. Instead of reproving him, because I love him, I cover up his
mistake. Although I do it out of love, in is not an act of mercy. I am not
helping with his salvation, with his development. Here it is clearly seen how
an "act of love" can go against the spirit of Buddhist mercy.
We should understand clearly that the correct practice of faith cultivates the
spirit of mercy. In other words, through performing Gongyo and Daimoku,
together with the very important factor of seriously studying the Teachings of
the Daishonin Sama, one cultivates a merciful spirit.
We should not take our own thoughts as a basis for judging if an action is
merciful or not. That way one will not recognize mercy. It is only recognized
and developed when we base ourselves on the Teachings of the Buddha, because
it is He who possesses True Mercy.
For example, if someone admonishes me for a mistake, and does it so that I
will understand, that is a merciful act. If I say, "What lack of mercy the
person who challenged me for my mistake had!", I am basing myself on my own
false ideas. I am not basing myself on the Correct Teaching.
Nichiren Daishonin Sama teaches that the Devil of mercy (Jihi-Ma) exists. Just
as there are different kinds of Devils, like for example that of death (Shi-
Ma), that of worldly desires (Bonno-Ma), that of heaven (Ten-Ma), that of the
five senses (On-Ma), there also exists the Devil of supposed mercy (Jihi-Ma).
Nichiren Daishonin Sama's Gosho explains that Jihi-Ma can be, for example, a
priest who preaches an incorrect teaching of false mercy, and through it
induces many people to commit the same error. The priest does not necessarily
know that he is wrong. The people believe him to be a good person because they
see that he carries out acts of apparent mercy. Upon committing the same
mistakes, they also slander and fall into the trap of Jihi-Ma. Under guise of
an apparent mercy, that devil leads many to unhappiness. As this is a Catholic
country, it has the custom that in the churches the priests hand out clothing
and food to the poor, and by that means induce them to embrace a heretical
religion. The poor, in this case, and those who observe that act from afar,
think that that "giving" is mercy. It is not, since the True Mercy, as I
already said, consists in saving people by means of the True Law, and not a
mere act of giving.
It is a false mercy to "give for the sake of giving". It doesn't promote
development, it only resolves immediate predicaments. With that kind of
teaching one cannot evolve.
Jihi-Ma is a devil that, carrying out apparently merciful acts, leads people
to hell in this and in the next existence.
Members: Could we say, for example, that Mother Theresa of Calcutta, who for
many is a saint, would be a manifestation of Jihi-Ma?
[Note: Notice that it wasn't the priest who brought up the subject
of Mother theresa... and take into consideration these words:
"Dear Carmen, do you really think that sending spies to
the temple violates their rights somehow? Isn't it
the method of the spy to not get caught? To blend in?
If he creates a disruption, then he reveals himself."
Kathy Ruby SGI member
"Yes, I do pray every day for the Nichiren Shoshu temples in the United
States to close do to lack of support. I believe they are spreading a
deluded view of Buddhism in response to the devil king of the sixth heaven's
command."
Tom Ultican, SGI member
Reverend Ito: Yes, she was a manifestation of Jihi-Ma (even if she herself
didn't know it) because she led all those people to suffering. She based
herself on a mistaken teaching. She thought that her actions were pure, but
since the teaching she preached is erroneous, those who followed her will fall
into hell along with her.
Members: Among the members of Nichiren Shoshu there are people who give money
and food to another member upon whom the Gohonzon Sama was also bestowed,
thinking that not to do so is a lack of Buddhist mercy. Is that correct?
Reverend Ito: Jihi is to lead another to Enlightenment. If someone lacks food
or work, the most convenient thing would be to present them with a good job.
The Buddha's Mercy is not limited to just giving. It involves encouragement so
that that person will stand up and more and more embrace the Correct Faith, so
that he can fulfill his potential. If we persist in the posture of giving
because we have things to spare, the one who receives what we give will not
make an effort to get a job and will not develop as a person.
To encourage that person and supply him with food while he looks for a job is
of course all right, but in order to look for a job he should be strong and
presentable. But to constantly maintain another person is not Buddhist mercy,
even if the other person is also a Buddhist.
It is important to see the intentions of self-development of the person that
we are going to help. If he really wants to develop himself, he can do it,
because we don't impede his growth. But if he doesn't want to develop his
potential, in the first place we should encourage that person. Encouragement
is fundamental for someone who is experiencing a difficult situation like,
for example, that of being unemployed. Through that encouragement we should
awaken his spirit of self-development. But if he doesn't awaken it, and upon
being comfortable because of receiving constant help, one must admonish him
so that he can change his attitude. If someone, with the excuse that we are
of the same faith, "demands" that another member support him, we should
fearlessly admonish him. This kind of admonishment should be done while
considering his personal characteristics. Mercy lies in admonishing while
being conscious of the capacity of the other person, so that that person who
is experiencing a difficult moment and who is struggling to advance doesn't
stray from the faith.
To donate for the sake of donating, or to give for the sake of giving, is not
Buddhist mercy (Jihi). In the case of members who come from the interior of
the country and to whom the members of the Federal Capital offer their homes,
it is not offering for the sake of offering. That offering is all right. They
come for a few days and we offer them our homes. That is the correct way. The
wrong way is to do it in a senseless manner and when it can limit the
development of another member.
For example, to loan a lot of money to another member is not recommendable,
since problems can arise and the spirit of Itai Doshin can be broken. Of
course, using common sense, we are not talking here about when someone doesn't
have a coin to travel, or doesn't have change. We are talking about loans of
large sums of money. It is better to avoid it.
Members: What should we do if a member tells us that if we don't help him by
giving him housing and food, he will quit practicing?
Reverend Ito: There are those who profess our same faith, and we decide that
because we know them and we know that they will react favorably to our help
and encouragement. [sic] They will not rest on their laurels expecting that
our help will be eternal and constant. We repeat that we should always ask
ourselves if what is being done serves the growth of the person or not.
If a member asks one member after another for money, or for some necessity, in
that case one shouldn't offer him help.
And with respect to the person who says that he is not going go practice any
more if one doesn't help him, or perhaps who threatens to quit the Buddhist
practice if one doesn't meet his expectations, we should not pay attention to
that threat. It is not advisable to help people who make such threats,
because that threat denotes that their practice is not sincere. To continue
with the practice of the faith or not is an absolutely personal decision. It
doesn't depend on another's attitude. It is one's own responsibility if one
quits practicing. If one helps that person, so that he won't carry out his
threat of not practicing this Buddhism, even after he continues practicing,
he won't reach Enlightenment, because his practice is not sincere. With the
attitude that "if you don't help me I'll stop practicing" one cannot reach
Enlightenment. If one doesn't correct the other's attitude, it is no longer
mercy to help him. It is senseless to give help to someone just so that he
will keep practicing; that practice that he does will not help him reach
Enlightenment, because it is not sincere, it is only self-interested. To help
him with money or things is to encourage him to practice incorrectly.
Members: To forgive is mercy?
Reverend Ito: One must clarify what it is that we wish to forgive, observe
the content of what is wished to be forgiven, and also of what we wish be
forgiven of us. For example, if someone wronged us and asks for forgiveness,
we could excuse him only if that wrong is not against the Supreme Law, since
in that case we cannot let it go. If we were to forgive a Slander (Hobo) of
the Law, that's not mercy and furthermore we become an outside accomplice of
the slander (Yodozai). If we see that someone is committing slander and we
don't refute him, since we are accomplices, we will receive the same
punishment as he.
There are cases in which the forgiveness we dispense only has social value,
and doesn't affect at all the karma of the person whom we forgive. For
example, if someone kills someone else's brother, and the latter wants to
forgive the murderer, that act doesn't alleviate the negative karma of the
murderer. The cause of death already was inscribed in the life of that
person. For a close relative to forgive him is a social act, it doesn't
affect the karma.
Members: Does the Buddha forgive us?
Reverend Ito: Nichiren Daishonin Sama teaches us that there is no negative
cause which cannot be eliminated. In other words, there is no negative karma
which is not pardoned through a correct practice of True Buddhism.
It is through the invocation of Daimoku and the practice of Gongyo that our
negative causes from the remote past can be eliminated. But for that to
happen, a real repentance of our errors is important in order to not repeat
them. For example: a thief robs and does Daimoku and Gongyo and robs again.
He didn't really repent of his error. The cause of robbing that apparently
had been erased by the Buddhist practice, if he robs again, will be added to
the second cause of robbery and thus successively. It accumulates in the form
of negative karma. The Buddha is not going to forgive a bad cause of which
someone not only doesn't repent, no matter that he practices Daimoku and
Gongyo, but continues committing it.
Approximately 20 years ago, Mr. Daisaku Ikeda asked forgiveness for his
slanders from the 66th High Priest Nittatsu Shonin Geika, and some years
later again committed slander against the 67th High Priest Nikken Shonin
Geika. This means that the first Zange was not sincere, since he repeated the
same mistake. That former error of almost 20 years ago is added to the
present. It is not the case that with the first repentance his first slander
was cleaned and now only the present slander persists. NO. Both slanders
accumulate since the first repentance was not sincere and because of that the
second slander was manifested.
The Buddha forgives us when we promise him never to repeat the same mistake,
when our repentance is sincere and consequently we strive ever harder.
Members: What is the significance of Zange?
Reverend Ito: One shouldn't separate Zange and say that it means repentance or
that it is to profoundly ask for the Buddha's forgiveness. Zange lies within
the sincere invocation of Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo. The only attitude necessary is
sincere concentration on the invocation of Daimoku. It is not to be begging,
while one invokes the Supreme Law, "Forgive me, forgive me!" Zange is within
the concentrated and sincere invocation to the Gohonzon Sama. There all
negative causes are eliminated, including those that one isn't aware of and
which lie in the infinite past. Within the sincere invocation of Daimoku
happiness and Enlightenment are found. EVERYTHING is contained in the sincere
invocation of Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo.
To ask for forgiveness and to be sorry are not two things that are separated.
Upon fusing with the Gohonzon, through the invocation of the Supreme Law,
asking for forgiveness as well as feeling repentance for our negative causes
flow by themselves, whether we are conscious of it or not. This is something
very profound. It is not easy to understand with one's mind.
By the same token, in the practice of a sincere Gongyo, whether one is
conscious of having committed a slander (Hobo) or is not conscious of it, the
bad causes are eliminated by the powerful action of the practice of Gongyo,
and in addition we are granted not only the desires that we ask for but even
those of which we are not aware. Those which we ask for and those which we
don't, too. This is Zange. In other words, the fact that slander is
eliminated through a sincere Gongyo, that, also, is Zange. It is the
elimination of the negative karma accumulated from the infinite past.
Members: Which has more power to eliminate our negative karma accumulated from
the infinite past: the invocation of Daimoku (Shodai), or the recitation of
Gongyo?
Reverend Ito: When we chant the Daimoku (Shodai) as well as when we do Gongyo,
we are eliminating our negative karma. Both are necessary. Of course it is not
the same chanting one minute of Daimoku as one hour. The effect is different.
Also it is important to note that the Shodai performed in your house is not
the same as that which is performed in front of the Dai-Gohonzon Sama. In
other words, to eliminate negative karma from the past there is a difference
with respect to the duration of the Shodai, as well as the place in which it
is invoked. The Daimoku invoked in front of the Gohonzon enshrined in our
houses, the Daimoku invoked in a Temple, and that which is recited before the
Dai- Gohonzon Sama are different. The more one approaches the Original
Source, which is the Dai-Gohonzon Sama, the greater the benefit one receives.
It is a question of Kechimyaku, or of closeness to the direct transmission of
the Enlightened Life of Nichiren Daishonin Sama.
With respect to the difference in the benefits of chanting Daimoku in front
of the different kinds of Gohonzon Sama, it should be clarified that
whichever is enshrined in a particular home (Tokubetsu Gohonzon Sama,
Tokubetsu Okatagi Gohonzon Sama, etc.), the difference only exists with
respect to the Gohonzons enshrined in a Propagation Office, a Temple, or
before the Dai-Gohonzon Sama. In other words, all those enshrined in the
believer's homes (of whichever type) bestow the same benefit. The Daimoku
invoked before a Gohonzon in the care of the Nichiren Shoshu Clergy produces
more benefits, since these [benefits] increase the more one approaches the
Kechimyaku.
Members: Through Zange do we definitely eliminate our negative causes, or is
there simply a lessening of the negative karmic effect?
Reverend Ito: If someone has a serious accident and comes out of it alive, it
can be considered in different ways. If his practice is correct, he can know
that he eliminated negative karma through having saved his life. But if it is
a person who lives committing slander, it could be that that accident is the
necessary consequence of his actions. There are many factors to consider, for
example the karma of past lives of which we are not aware, how our Buddhist
practice is, what type of actions we take, etc.
BlueDolphinWeb
Cody
"BlueDolphinWeb" wrote
> Okay, thank you. Interesting. Karyn
What's "interesting" was SGI's role. If that isn't sleazy, what is? Why
should NST "reunite" with these characters? How could we ever trust them
after all they have done? Like Tim, you should come to your senses and
return to True Buddhism and leave the absurd idea of runification behind.
Cody
C
It's OK Michael - all leaders, members and friends of SGI
are exempt from any responsibility for such acts. It goes
without saying that they are forgiven.
Craig
"Dear Carmen, do you really think that sending spies to
the temple violates their rights somehow? Isn't it
the method of the spy to not get caught? To blend in?
If he creates a disruption, then he reveals himself."
Kathy Ruby
"Yes, I do pray every day for the Nichiren Shoshu temples in the United
States to close do to lack of support. I believe they are spreading a
deluded view of Buddhism in response to the devil king of the sixth heaven's
command."
Tom CUltican, SGI-USA
"Changing the subject doesn't work. Ikeda made a deal to not
establish SGI in China, in return the communists made an agreement not
to persecute SGI members. Considering the very limited room to
maneuver it was a diplomatic decision."
Chris Holte
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/look863.htm
"According to the organization's public-relations director, Yukimasa Fujiwara, it has an average
net annual income of over $8,500,000 -- tax-exempt as with all acknowledged religions"
LOOK Magazine
September 10, 1963
"Because We have the money, and Hokkeko does
not have EVEN A FRACTION of the money we have,
who do you think will win this battle between
the corrupt priesthood and SGI?"
Richard Hower, SGI-USA member
"Soka Gakkai is unmistakably a church militant in Japan geared for a determined march abroad.
It's significance to America and all nations cannot be ignored. Its target is world domination"
LOOK Magazine
September 10, 1963
"Recently, the Japan Times had reported that a 33-year-old an "avid follower of Soka
Gakkai," had shoved his four-year-old son into the path of an oncoming train, then
changed his mind about committing suicide. The child died of a fractured skull."
LOOK Magazine
September 10, 1963
"By the end of the interview, it was clear that Ikeda, whose word is absolute law to 10 million
unquestioning believers, was unflinchingly confident that Soka Gakkai will succeed in the total
conversion of Japan, and then the world."
LOOK Magazine
September 10, 1963
"To Dr. Yoshiro Tamura, associate professor of Toyo University, the "true nature" of
Soka Gakkai is "fanatic and dangerous." He says Soka Gakkai "makes politics
dependent upon religion as long as that religion is Soka Gakkai . . . and will eventually
act against freedom of religion."
LOOK Magazine
September 10, 1963
"William P Woodard of Tokyo's International Institute for the Study of Religions comments:
"Soka Gakkai does not respect the rights of others. It threatens reprisals to all who oppose
it. Followers are obliged to engage in forced conversion, and in doing so, they force
themselves into private homes and refuse to leave when asked. They disrupt public meetings
and threaten nonbelievers. Leaders encourage violence.
"Soka Gakkai has developed in such a sinister manner," Woodard contends, "that
most people in positions of public responsibility are afraid to take objective stands
against it. They are literally afraid; they never know what form reprisal will take. Its
insidious nature makes it a definite threat to a free, democratic society. It creates a
kind of private terrorism"
LOOK Magazine
September 10, 1963
mark
BlueDolphinWeb wrote:
>
> Okay, thank you. Interesting. Karyn
It's surprising to me you didn't have a clue already what Buddhist
mercy is. We affect the cause not the effect. Christians alleviate the
effect without changing the underlying cause. This isn't bad in itself,
but then there's that convert thing that gets in the way which then
makes it a bad cause.
--
Mark Porter
"Take these teachings to heart, and always remember that believers in
the Lotus Sutra should absolutely be the last to abuse each other. All
those who keep faith in the Lotus Sutra are most certainly Buddhas, and
one who slanders a Buddha commits a grave offense." Gosho; 14 Slanders
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wall,\n";print"$_ bottle$s of beer,\nTake one down, pass it around,\n";
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wall\n\n";}print'*burp*';
C
>BlueDolphinWeb wrote:
>>
>> Okay, thank you. Interesting. Karyn
>
> It's surprising to me you didn't have a clue already what Buddhist
>mercy is. We affect the cause not the effect. Christians alleviate the
>effect without changing the underlying cause. This isn't bad in itself,
>but then there's that convert thing that gets in the way which then
>makes it a bad cause.
It doesn't surprise me- after 10 years of singing ode to joy
and kissing the butts of several churches and Mosques
and getting their butt kissed in return it's a wonder that SGI
doesn't have a statue of Jesus on their altar and a Koran on
the Kyo table.
Craig
"If I am drowning in a storm (of any sort) and I
pray for deliverance; it does not matter whether I pray
to Shiva, Zeus, Jesus or Allah. Sincerity, focus,
open heartedness and clear intention will alter
circumstances."
"Bob The Builder" SGI member from an SGI message board
"It was obvious in 1991 that SGI was dropping the strict
interpretation of Fujefuse (don't accept don't give). This was obvious
when they intentionally sang a Christian Song at a culture festival."
Chris Holte
"If you devote your life to helping other people, then
you have lived a powerful, value creating life. That's what Jesus did
and he was rewarded almost immediately in his next incarnation with
good circumstances."
Greg Martin, SGI leader
"as the Essenes tried to teach, before they were crushed and silenced by
Mainstream Christianity, "God is within." Please begin looking for Him in
there"
Dick Powell, SGI member, following Greg Martin's guidance
"In the past months I have heard about a woman who although she
was Buddhist wanted to sing in a Christian choir. She finally got her wish
and is extremely happy. I've heard an experience on how Christmas songs can still
be sung during that holiday season by those of us who practice this Buddhism
(without feeling guilty or slanderous)."January 15, 1999, World Tribune, p. 11
"God is nothing but man"
Complete Works of Daisaku Ikeda Vol 1
BlueDolphinWeb
of the speech interesting for its content. You were falling asleep reading it?
And, as as stated before, a priest at Myohoji (prior to split) specifically
said that shoju, not shakubuku was the correct form of propagation in non
buddhist countries. Now, what is it you didn't understand about that?
Karyn
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BlueDolphinWeb
once the SGI and NST were reunited. :) Karyn
>
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mark
BlueDolphinWeb wrote:
>
> >Well, actually Mark, I know quite well what buddhist mercy is. I found most
> of the speech interesting for its content. You were falling asleep reading it?
> And, as as stated before, a priest at Myohoji (prior to split) specifically
> said that shoju, not shakubuku was the correct form of propagation in non
> buddhist countries. Now, what is it you didn't understand about that?
> Karyn
>
I think you must have gotten this wrong.
"Shoju is to be practiced when throughout the entire country only the
Lotus Sutra has spread, and when there is not even a single misguided
teacher expounding erroneous doctrines. At such a time, one may retire
to the mountain forests, practice the meditation on the dharmas, or
carry out the five, the six or the ten practices. But the time for
shakubuku is very different from this. It is a time when many different
sutras and teachings spring up here and there like so many orchids and
chrysanthemums, when the various sects command a large following and
enjoy renown, when truth and error stand shoulder to shoulder, and when
Mahayana and Hinayana dispute which is superior. At such a time, one
must set aside all other affairs and devote one's attention to rebuking
slander of the Law. This is the practice of shakubuku."
Conversation between a Sage and an Unenlightened Man
- Shogu Mondo Sho -
C
>And, as as stated before, a priest at Myohoji (prior to split) specifically
>said that shoju, not shakubuku was the correct form of propagation in non
>buddhist countries. Now, what is it you didn't understand about that?
>Karyn
The part that assumes that "shoju" includes kissing the ass
of Christian preachers and getting your ass kissed back
with a medal with your face on it, and a huge oil portrait
of yourself installed on the church wall
http://www.cebunet.com/hiromasa/
http://www.cebunet.com/dannyboy
Wiley bad
The part that assumes that "shoju" includes kissing the ass
of Christian preachers and getting your ass kissed back
with a medal with your face on it, and a huge oil portrait
of yourself installed on the church wall
http://www.cebunet.com/hiromasa/
http://www.cebunet.com/dannyboy>>
Looks to me like the kind of fundamentalism that breeds hatred of other people.
Not exactly what I think anyone here is really looking for, in terms of
philosophy, Craig.
Wiley
C
>http://www.cebunet.com/dannyboy>>
>Looks to me like the kind of fundamentalism that breeds hatred of other people.
Nice skirting of the issue Wiley. SGI uses other religions and government
authorities by kissing their asses, and then getting their ass kissed back.
It's a low form of parasitic behavior, and Ikeda SGI is quite good at
it. All the while SGI brags about how they follow the admonitions
of Nikko shonin, but in fact they trashed those tenants long ago.
> Not exactly what I think anyone here is really looking for, in terms of
>philosophy, Craig.
>Wiley
I suppose in your twisted mind, people are looking for a cult
group that uses physical harassment and illegal acts to achieve
the goals of a fat millionaire politician. If I were you I would clean
up my own bakyard first.
C
"To Dr. Yoshiro Tamura, associate professor of Toyo University, the "true nature" of
Soka Gakkai is "fanatic and dangerous." He says Soka Gakkai "makes politics
dependent upon religion as long as that religion is Soka Gakkai . . . and will eventually
act against freedom of religion."
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/memo.htm
"In order to destroy the overseas strategies of the Nikkensect, I want to
make a suggestion to all the representatives that we start a special SGI
campaign against the Nikkensect starting today to last until the end of
the Tozan of 100,000 people."
Sensei sent Mr Kitano to Ghana with these words: "When you start to fight
evil, you have to continue to the end. You cannot stop halfway. Fight
with all your strength, with all your might and use All means for that
fight"
"the daimoku campaign to close the temples in the US is NOT a freedom of religion issue..
I'll chant for the temples to close and for the sad people like your self to find wisdom to
cure your blindness."
Joe Stevens SGI-USA
"Those SGI-USA members who are chanting for the temples to close
are chanting just for that -- for the temples in the US to close."
Kathy Ruby
"I don't think if temples close it is a "bad thing"
Craig Ellis, SGI-USA
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/distortion.htm
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/memo.htm
"Currently, there are four Priests travelling in Europe, some on their way
to Ghana and others visiting the Danto members to hand out Gohonzons.
It would play right into the hands of Nikken if we allowed the building of
a Temple in Germany or in a German speaking country. We must, at all
costs, prevent that happening by utilising our combined strength.
Again: Somebody goes over to Danto and starts a point, but we do nothing.
A line or Danto group starts and we do nothing. It then increases-
regional, registered by law - and if we still do nothing then a Temple
will be built.
Sensei says: "If you challenge evil, then you must decide the time and
the place to destroy evil".
Basically: Choose the 'place' while it is still relatively small, and
this applies equally to the 'time', ie the time to attack is Now."
Initially and especially we should be "pro-active", in other words, be
informed of all the movements of the Nikkensect and apply a practical
system of "counter-action". As you have already been informed, the SGI
Strategy Dept. has been founded at the SGI-Head Office. In the past, the
movements of the Nikkensect have been carefully monitored outside of Japan
and in conjunction with the Bureau of the European Continent, counter-
activities were instigated. Moreover, the Strategic Department has been
provided to strengthen this system.In several countries in which seminars
about the Nikkensect were held, and guidance relevant to this was given,
camapigns to win the members back were carried out. In addition, measures
were taken against the Priests and Danto organisations."
we should establish a fighting spirit throughout the entire SGI
organisation. There have been various activities led by the Strategy
Dept. such as the campaign to win back members. As to the fight against
the Nikkensect, the members in the front line - especially in the Women's
Division - are aware of important information, ie the movements of the
sect and their methods of convincing people. But, if we don't have a
fighting spirit that is strong enough, this information will not reach
those responsible on the next highest level. Or, they receive the
information but neglect to pass it on to the next highest level of
responsibility.
Cody
"C" wrote
> Nice skirting of the issue Wiley.
He has a bad habit of that, doesn't he? Never addresses the issue.
Cody
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greengables
other circumstances. The SGI was excommunicated from Nichiren Shoshu. The NST
and the SGI are not organizations of equal worth. Soka Gakkai was a subordinate
lay organization of the Nichiren Shoshu just as the Hokkeko was and is. But
Soka Gakkai was disbanded for various reasons and the major lay organization of
Nichiern Shoshu is now the Hokekko. If there was ever an opportunity to reunite
them --it was when Ikeda visited the dying widow of Josei Toda and she turned
him away because the Soka Gakkai had become an organization of slander and was
disbanded just as Toda had said it should be.
Even if Soka Gakkai were to become a lay organization of NST again, it would
never replace the Hokkeko. The Hokkeko is a stronger organization that the
Gakkai ever was despite the lies you are told about it. Next year 300,000
Hokkeko will present the entirety of the Hokkeko in Japan. You won't be there
for the 750 anniversary and you won't get another chance because the next
anniversary is in 50 years.
greenie
BlueDolphinWeb
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C
Why am I not surprised that Karyn refuses to comment on
the antics of SGI Ikeda and the Rev. Carter honoring and kissing each
other's butts, but instead, she marches arm-in-arm with her Soka
comrade? This in relation to the fact that Ikeda boldly accuses NST
of doing exactly the same thing in violation of Nikko Shonin's admonition
against sitting down with heretical sects.
Craig
December 1, 2000 Soka Gakkai World Tribune
"The Victorious Future of Mentor and Disciple"
By Daisaku Ikeda
>>
I can see
Those who are like demons
Milling around what,
Unbeknownst to them,
Is only an execution block.
They trample
The noble spirit
Of the Daishonin
And have become
Pitiful robbers of the Law.
Like a rapacious swarm of locusts,
Nikken and his cronies
Have exploited and persecuted
And even plotted to destroy
The Soka Gakkai,
An organization of the highest good
That has made unprecedented contributions
To spreading the Law
And worked so hard
To support and protect the priesthood.
Their evil deeds
Will go down forever in history
And they will be severely judged
According to the law of cause and effect.
This I believe
To be the unwavering position
Of the Daishonin.
It will be just as he states
In the writing "On Persecutions Befalling the Sage":
They "seem to be free from punishment at first,
But eventually they are all doomed to fall"
(The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, p. 997).
The plots and schemes of High Priest Nikken Abe and his cohorts,
Spinning a web of the most base lies
And vicious slander,
Were designed to bring us down.
Yet
We shone on brightly
Like the morning sun!
We rose boldly to the challenge,
And began our battle!
The Daishonin, too,
Was slandered as an immoral priest,
And his struggles amid persecution
Were beyond description.
Our first president Tsunesaburo Makiguchi
Used to strictly remind us
That in comparison
The persecution we encounter
Is truly small and trivial.
With silent forbearance,
The firm resolve demonstrated by the Buddha
Engraved in our hearts,
We waged an arduous struggle
To overcome
Every imaginable
Haughty and arrogant utterance.
We will not be defeated.
We are fed up
With the clamoring and abusive foolishness
Of these spiritual paupers.
In fact, our mighty, passionate spirit
Only burns all the brighter.
They who are
At times frenzied,
At times coldly silent,
At times filled with excuses,
Will eventually depart this world,
Gasping and trembling in fear.
Backsliders in faith!
Are you satisfied
To lead a life
Trapped in a maze
Of hellish depths?
Slanderers of the Law!
Having corrupted the Daishonin's teachings
And veered from the eternal truth,
Are you prepared
To drift along forever in a state of life
Of agonized defeat?
Traitors!
Having turned your backs
On the Daishonin's golden words,
Are you ready
To be burned in the fires
Of the hell of incessant suffering?
To be imprisoned in a cavern
In the hell of extreme cold?
To be shut off in the darkness
Of misery and strife,
Forever deprived of the sun's light?
mark
BlueDolphinWeb
>the antics of SGI Ikeda and the Rev. Carter honoring and kissing each
>other's butts, but instead, she marches arm-in-arm with her Soka
>comrade?
I did comment on it. You must not have read it.
This in relation to the fact that Ikeda boldly accuses NST
>of doing exactly the same thing in violation of Nikko Shonin's admonition
>against sitting down with heretical sects.
What? I don't understand what you are saying here? NST is doing what? Nikko
says what? This compares to what behavior? Please elucidate. Thanks. Karyn
C
There are 2 reasons why Karyn does not accept this explanation.
First of all, the SGI's idea of shakubuku is perverted- that is,
they are used to shakubuku as being an aggressive, confrontational form
of propagation, and as we all know, one of SGI's big problems
is they have big mouths and big egos, and often have been aggressive
in their methods. The real fact is that this type of behavior is based
upon the guidance of Ikeda - not the Gosho. It was Ikeda's militant
words that incited members to literally break into people's houses
and smash their heretical altars.
I have always used the shakubuku method with Christian family/friends,
never having to confronted them in such a way as to demand that they
stop believing in their fake mythical god. I have simply explained to them
that Christianity is a provisional teaching, now useless in this age. I cite
various examples, Buddhist and secular, to illustrate this fact. Some people
will take offence, but none so far have banished me from their circle
for sticking to my convictions. And once I have explained my position,
I see no reason to badger them, unlike the SGI does even to this day.
All of them accept my beliefs, and many have even told me that they
respect my convictions and wish they could be more like that. Most
of them are Christian in name only, and hardly attend church, if ever.
The second reason is that the SGI trashed the Gosho and Nikko
Shonin's admonitions a long time ago, but put on a strange kind of
facade as if they are the only ones who follow the doctrines.
This is evidenced by their state of denial when they call our 750
year-old doctrines "the new Nikken sect teachings" It has been
proven time and time again that it was the SGI that changed what
they teach, going from one perversion (aggressive propagation) to
another (kissing the ass of heretical sects in exchange for honors and
good PR, but continuing agressive behavior towards those who
criticise them).
When pushed into a corner, they will claim that this age is different
from the Daishonin's day. they will say that shakubuku is outmoded
and we should all be cozy with other religions, working together
and ignoring doctrinal differences. But when pressed further, you will
find that they cannot find any Gosho that states that this age of
mappo was going to end 9000 years earlier than the Daishonin said it
would. Poor SGI. What a dilemma. How to garner more honors for
their sensei and good PR for their cult, and keep the teachings?
Karyn has her blinders on very tightly, but what can you expect-
she supports a group that perverts Buddhist prayers into some
kind of sick voodoo spell and other dysfunctions. If she were to
take them off, she would have to wake up to her complicity in it all
"One who condones evil is just as guilty as the one who perpetrates it."
--Dr. Martin Luther King
Too bad this message isn't inscribed in the gold medal that Rev Carter
made with Ghandi, MLK and Ikeda's mugs.
Craig
>>You must not have seen this. It answers your question.
"Shoju is to be practiced when throughout the entire country only the
Lotus Sutra has spread, and when there is not even a single misguided
teacher expounding erroneous doctrines. At such a time, one may retire
to the mountain forests, practice the meditation on the dharmas, or
carry out the five, the six or the ten practices. But the time for
shakubuku is very different from this. It is a time when many different
sutras and teachings spring up here and there like so many orchids and
chrysanthemums, when the various sects command a large following and
enjoy renown, when truth and error stand shoulder to shoulder, and when
Mahayana and Hinayana dispute which is superior. At such a time, one
must set aside all other affairs and devote one's attention to rebuking
slander of the Law. This is the practice of shakubuku."
Conversation between a Sage and an Unenlightened Man
- Shogu Mondo Sho -
--
Mark Porter<<
http://www.cebunet.com/hiromasa/
http://www.cebunet.com/dannyboy>>
http://www.cebunet.com/daisakuikeda.htm
C
BlueDolphinWeb
who said that the method of propagation that should be used with Christians was
shoju. Ask him. Karyn
C
And I repeat this again:
The activities of SGI Ikeda of garnering honors from heretical
sects and government authorities has nothing to do with spreading
Buddhism but everything to do with getting Ikeda as many honors
as he can get before he goes to the big zadankai in the sky. It is a
shameless parasitic act and very selfish, not to mention against the
very admonitions Ikeda loves to preach, making it even more shameful.
And tightening up your blinders, or changing the subject doesn't make
it any more acceptable either.
Craig
http://www.cebunet.com/daisakuikeda.htm
"The fact that Nichiren Daishonin passed away shows that He took a
journey to another land after preaching to His sons. The
messengers whom He sent from another land are the successive
High Priests of Nichiren Shoshu."
Josei Toda, Lecture on the Sutra
"The allegation that anyone is revising the true teachings of buddhism
is ludicrous. Yes we are revising our understanding of them, and yes
we are explaining them differently"
Chris Holte
"It's kind of sad that the faith of your sect is so superficial that you can't
admit that a physical mandala is a "religious icon", and can't even address the
thought that Nichiren Daishonin didn't actually inscribe the Dai Gohonzon
himself."
Jim Celer, SGI Living Buddha mag. Midwest Bureau CHIEF
"So how can I believe both that Nichiren Shu is heretical, AND that they keep a
valid Gohonzon? Quite simple - "the Gohonzon is found in faith alone." Think
about that, please."
Jim Celer
"BTW, when I called you an idiot, I didn't mean it as an insult."
Jim Celer
"I truly believe the Daishonin would be appalled that a group claiming his name
would maintian that the most important pronciples are a specific icon found at
a specific temple, and a succession of priests -- things so totally removed
form the lives of ordinary people."
Jim
>1) From where I stand True Buddhism looks a lot like the DaiGohonzon and
>the Heritage of True Buddhiam that Nichiren Daishonin and Nikko Shonin
>established and which continues today as Nichiren Shoshu Buddhism.
>Ken
Icons and dogma. I tought the Daishonin wished to replace that kind of
religious thinking with something vital and relevant to human life.
Jim Celer, Midwest Bureau Chief for major SGI publication
The SGI position says that a priestly
class isn't an essential element, okay, I
agree with that. But, there is one.
Whether it's robed priests, or paid
staff. It's a priestly class.
Marizap, SGI member
>"the High Priests are the only ones who have received the Daishonin's teachings,
>and as our masters, have transmitted to us ***the Daishonin's innermost
>enlightenment*** exactly as it is with nothing lacking during 64 transmissions.
>Therefore, when we worship the Dai-Gohonzon through the High Priest, benefits
>will definitely come our way." The Complete Writings Of Josei Toda,
>Vol. 4, p. 399
If I wanted Josei Toda's opinion I would have asked.
Jim Celer, SGI member
"Nikken Drinks his own Urine"
"Nikken even tried drinking urine to stay healthy, so there was always
a cup on top of the toilet. When I asked my senior about this, he
answered with a frown that Nikken was drinking his urine."
"He is no better than an animal
dressed in priestly robes."
From the Soka Gakkai tabloid, "Soka Shimpo"
Posted by Jim Celer, Midwest Bureau CHIEF for the Living Buddha
magazine, Omaha Nebraska
greengables
another...what about fuje fuse.
greenie
Reginald Carpenter
12/14/01, 5:16am CST+6.
I changed the subject/ title to: Re: "F-u-j-u Fuse": the "Whole Monte"
for "Greenie"!*
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Re: The Whole Argentine Article for Karyn
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Fri, Dec 14, 2001, 5:16am (CST+6) From: xtombr...@aol.com
(greengables)
Shoju is one think... thinking and acting according to Christian ideals
is another...
>>> what about fuje fuse[?] <--- #1.
greenie
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1). RC comments: Answer - what about it?! There is really NO such
"think" or thing as "fuje [sic] fuse," FOOL! - sez real Mr. T. ROTFL.
First of all, LEARN the term, before you try to use it, that when
spelled correctly, is (Jap.) "f-u-j-u fuse", NOT "fuje fuse", FOOL!
LOL.
So, "just-in-case" you didn't know, if you can NOT even spell what in
the H-e-l-l you think you are think-ing about, then you are already
think-ing INcorrectly about it, and you really do NOT know what in the
H-e-l-l you're talk-ing about either - "NO Can Do" - sez Hall & Oates,
Doctoress GreenG! ROTFL.
Secondly, the concept of the term, (Jap.) fuju fuse, has No-thing
[Zen] at all to do with either the "one think" about "Shoju", or
"thinking and acting according to Chiristian ideals", or the original
subject/ title re. the "Argentina Caper re. Mother Theresa", FOOL!
ROTFL.
Thirdly, the doctrine of (Jap.) "fuju fuse" -- are you (all) ready to
LEARN this (?!) -- is NOT even an official, original doctrinal teaching
of the Nichiren Shoshu religion, FOOL! LOL.
Excerpt-ed from entry for "Nichiko" in "A Dictionary of Buddhist Terms
& Concepts", 1st edition, page #294. Copyright 1983 by NSIC:
Nichiko (1626-1698): "The founder of the Fuju Fuse Komon School of the
Nichiren sect"!
"Around 1665, the [Jap.] government ordered that all temples should
submit a document stating that temple estates [property] authorized by
the government for temple possession [propriety] would be acknowledged
as offerings from the government"!
"Nichiko embraced the "fuju fuse" doctrine, promulgated by a priest
named Nichio, which maintains that priests and laymen [& laywomen] who
are followers of Nichiren Daishonin should neither give alms [donations]
to, nor receive them from, [any] one who embraces another teaching"!
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So, please try to do some-thing DC - Directly to Correctly, "LEARN a
term a day, to keep HELL - DC/ Delusion & CONfusion away", "Greenie"!
(rhymes) ROTFL.
BJW - Buddhist Jihad War. } : < { 0
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Airborne in Cyberspace*
Mr T
xtombr...@aol.com (greengables) wrote:
Oh, great- bring up Bruce Maltz again... ;-)
--
Kurt
BlueDolphinWeb
>> another...what about fuje fuse.
>> greenie
>
>Oh, great- bring up Bruce Maltz again... ;-)
Second is the matter of capacity. Anyone who attempts to propagate the
teachings of Buddhism must understand the capacity and basic nature of the
persons he is addressing. The Venerable Shariputra attempted to instruct a
blacksmith by teaching him to meditate on the vileness of the body, and to
instruct a washerman by teaching him to count his breaths in meditation. Even
though he spent over ninety days with them, these pupils of his did not gain
the slightest understanding of the Buddha's Law. On the contrary, they took on
erroneous views and ended by becoming icchantika or persons of incorrigible
disbelief.
The Buddha, on the other hand, instructed the blacksmith in the
counting-of-breath meditation, and the washer of clothes in the meditation on
the vileness of the body, and as a result both were able to obtain
understanding in no time at all. If even Shariputra, who was counted foremost
in wisdom among the major disciples of the Buddha, failed in understanding the
capacity of the persons he was instructing, then how much more difficult must
it be for ordinary teachers in this, the Latter Day of the Law, to have such an
understanding!
Teaching, Capacity, Time and Country. Nichiren Daishonin.
Posted by Karyn
C
"Among the teachings of Buddhism, there are both
zuijii and zuitai. For example, zuitai [provisional
teaching] is like a parent who follows the wishes
of the child while zuijii [true teaching] is like a child
who follows the wishes of the parent. All of the
other sutras are zuitai. suiting the capacity of the
people's mind, but the Lotus Sutra alone is zuijii.
expounded directly from the mind of the Buddha
without regard for the capacity of the people.
If you take faith in the other sutras. you will never attain
Buddhahood because they are based on the mind
of the common mortal. But the Lotus Sutra is the
Buddha way and the Buddha wisdom. If you believe
deeply in every word and part of it, you will attain
Buddhahood immediately." (GZ1437)
bluedol...@aol.com (BlueDolphinWeb) wrote:
>Second is the matter of capacity. Anyone who attempts to propagate the
>teachings of Buddhism must understand the capacity and basic nature of the
>persons he is addressing. The Venerable Shariputra attempted to instruct a
>blacksmith by teaching him to meditate on the vileness of the body, and to
>instruct a washerman by teaching him to count his breaths in meditation. Even
>though he spent over ninety days with them, these pupils of his did not gain
>the slightest understanding of the Buddha's Law. On the contrary, they took on
>erroneous views and ended by becoming icchantika or persons of incorrigible
>disbelief.
>The Buddha, on the other hand, instructed the blacksmith in the
>counting-of-breath meditation, and the washer of clothes in the meditation on
>the vileness of the body, and as a result both were able to obtain
>understanding in no time at all. If even Shariputra, who was counted foremost
>in wisdom among the major disciples of the Buddha, failed in understanding the
>capacity of the persons he was instructing, then how much more difficult must
>it be for ordinary teachers in this, the Latter Day of the Law, to have such an
>understanding!
>Teaching, Capacity, Time and Country. Nichiren Daishonin.
>Posted by Karyn
http://www.cebunet.com/daisakuikeda.htm
"We are not clergy but lay members."
Taichee Dee (on the new age IRG board)
"SGI is the only true gathering of priests striving to achieve Kosen Rufu at this time."
Allan Saunders
"Muslims do not erode Nichiren Daishonin's teaching. Nikken's doctrine
does."
Tom Ultican, SGI member
"Naturally, when we perform the function of the Treasure of the "Priest",
we obtain the virtue of the Treasure of the Priest."
Jim Celer
"No, we're not priests, if by "priests" you mean clergy. What we are --
hopefully merited through our practice -- is the Third Treasure."
Jim Celer
"There are in fact many, may references to the Three Treasures from
before 1977 or so, all of which declare that the Treasure of the Priest is
Nikko and Nikko alone. Nittatsu said: " ...Nikko Shonin, the Treasure of the Priest."
Jim Celer
The Daishonin praised "monks and nuns, lay men and lay women", which
corresponds to the "community" that was considered the Treasure of the Priest
in his day (or more acurately, the Treasure of he Community).
Jim Celer
But Kathy Says:
Most other sects of Buddhism translate that treasure to be the Treasure
of the Sangha or order (sect) -- which is generally made up of all
members of the sect -- priests, lay believers, whatever. However, the
sect to which you belong has always translated it as "priest". What is
really meant by "Priest"? Well, historically, it has always meant Nikko
Shonin and him alone.
However, in the BROADER sense it can be said to include the "Sangha"
definition -- all members of the sect, regardless of their roles.
But Kathy says:
Nobody in SGI is a priest"
But Dick Hower sez:
"All Soka Gakkai International members
..are "the priests who know the heart of the Lotus Sutra"
But SGI Andy Templeman says:
"I am not a priest"
But SGI Bruce Miller aka Micheal Howell says:
"am I a shonin or not, that is not for us to judge, I would think
not! A priest absolutely not, included in the term Treasure
of the Priest, absolutely.
And Ikeda says:
"At the present time, the Soka Gakkai itself is the one and only
group of united priests which receives and inherits the 'lifeblood of
faith.'" (Seikyo Shinbun, 9/18/93)
But Kathy says:
"No one in SGI is a priest...This does not mean that SGIers ARE priests.
I personally would regard it as an insult to be mistaken for a priest."
But the Daishonin says:
"...both the Treasure of the Buddha and the treasure of the Law are
invariably perpetuated by Priests....Even though Buddhism existed,
without the Priests who studied it and passed it on, it would never
have been transmitted throughout the 2000 years of the Former & Middle
Days into the Latter Day of the Law."
MWND (MW5 p11)
"This Sutra cannot be understood other than receiving the transmission"
Zenshu p398
As I expected, many of the disciples who appeared even after the Sage's
passing are saying that they are the Sage's direct disciples. These people
are slanderers."
(Nikko Shonin, Complete Writings of Successive High Priests of
Nichiren Shoshu, Vol 1, p. 184)
Kechimyaku
The "Nichiren Ichigo Guho Fuzoku Sho" reads in part, "Order of the
heritage: from Nichiren to Nikko," This is called in Nichiren Shoshu
the heritage of the entity of the Law (Jap: hottai no kechimyaku), or
the specific transmission from Nichiren Daishonin to his
immediate successor Nikko Shonin, and in turn, to each of the
successive high priests.
SGI NSIC Dictionary of Buddhist Terms and Concepts
Three Treasures In Nichiren Shoshu, "the Buddha" indicates the True Buddha, Nichiren
Daishonin; "the Law" is the Dai-Gohonzon, the object of worship;
and "the priest" is Nikko Shonin, and also indicates the successive High Priests.
SGI MWND DEFINITIONS
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mine did.
Good to see that we agree on everything:)
Karyn
blackpearlviper
I think one has to take a stand on something--trust in
something...either you agree with the shortened gongyo or you
don't--otherwise it is chaos. One can't just agree with everything.
That is non commital and anti-social--after all there are protocols.
Being a Buddhist means that one believes in the principles of Buddhism
and does not accept any provisional teachings or believe in the ideas
of other religions.Once you start mixing rice with filth even in the
slighest, the small deviation turns into a greater deviation and you
find yourself far far away from the source.
We were all brought up with the same bedtime stories and to understand
Buddhism you have to discard previously held knowledge. It is a big
shock to have your life purified in this way. But as long as you hang
on to Christian prinicples you are missing the whole point. Christians
of the Judeo-Christian tradition relinquish their freedom to a higher
source and promote the myth of creation. The DaiGohonzon is not the
same as God--a far away source that we can tap into. Judeo-Christian
thought is primarily concerned with morality and was a necessary dogma
for those ancient peoples to regulate society. In the modern world we
have governments to do that and people are generally more enlightened
about what is right and what is wrong because they have the examples
of history as cautionary tales. The DaiGohonzon is the manifested
enlightened life of the Buddha who is always here in this world
teaching the Law. The Law is taught from the point of view of the
Buddha's wisdom which is beyond the understanding of a common mortal.
Kosen rufu is his will and will be accomplished. Even though we attain
Buddhahood is is only because Nichiren Daishonin plants the seed in
Mappo. This is the Buddhism of the Sowing not of the Harvest. You
should understand the difference. Buddha is Buddha, a concrete reality
not a vague idea or formality.
The point is that you can not sit on the fence and try to play both
sides. In the end neither side will have any use for you...that is the
way of the world. You can cling to your desires and dreams for
reunification but in time you will be dissillusioned with this cause
just as you were with NST--no ze honmak kukyo to.
If you believe that your presence or words have a certain influence or
power here, consider what it might be. Everyone knows you are a
pushover--that you will do anything to get people to reunite and
compromise anything and won't debate any positions to make any
progress...that is selling yourself very short. Your answers are
always one liners with a little smiley at the end--it is not an
intelligent way to debate. You would have more respect if you stood up
for what you believe in and explain it fully rather than skirt around
the issues. No one knows what you believe in except idiot smiley
faces. For heavens sake Bin Laden has a great smile too! It is
dishonest and one can see right through the tactic of trying to
placate people in order to get them to join your fanatical cause of
reunification. :)
Greenie
BlueDolphinWeb
Q: What is a smart blonde?
A: A Golden retriever.
Karyn