Martin om-28V
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How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V' guitar? I am thinking of
purchasing one from my local dealer.
Please could you let me know the different aspects and qualities it has,
and how it compares to other guitars. I was told that they generally
aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you beleive this to be true?
Thanks, Simon.
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Hojo2x
I think it's a terrific guitar. Tonally balanced, superbly made, and one of
Martin's best designs, which is saying a lot.
>I was told that they generally>aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you
beleive this to be true?
I'd be interested to know who told you that. Players might prefer the sound of
one brand over the other, but I personally would prefer the Martin, myself.
Wade Hampton Miller
Dick Schneiders
>How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V' guitar? I am thinking of
>purchasing one from my local dealer.
>Please could you let me know the different aspects and qualities it has,
>aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you beleive this to be true?
In general most people feel that Martins and Taylors are on an equal level.
While I like many guitars of both makers and own guitars from both, I usually
like the Martin sound much more. I do not like the larger bodied models
(dreadnoughts or jumbos) of either maker as I am a small bodied guitar person.
I think that the Martin OM-28V is one of the best newer Martin models out there
and is much better than just about any Taylor I have ever played.
I would love to have one.
Dick Schneiders
Doug Roberts
compare it to. It has a nice balanced sound. Martin's are definately fine
guitars.
Doug Roberts
<xxx...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7rdpah$7i5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Hello I'm new to this, this is my first message. My question is this:
> How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V' guitar? I am thinking of
> purchasing one from my local dealer.
> Please could you let me know the different aspects and qualities it has,
> and how it compares to other guitars. I was told that they generally
> aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you beleive this to be true?
> Thanks, Simon.
>
>
Jim Page
>>How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V'
>>guitar?
One of the best guitars you can buy, especially if you play fingerstyle.
>>I was told that they generally aren't as
>>good as Taylor guitars.
For firewood, no. For music, they are better. All kidding aside, that is a
brash statement and you have to wonder why someone would say that. Was it a
salesperson?
You should try playing a bunch of guitars before you spend the kind of money
you are talking about here, and form your own opinions based on the kind of
music you enjoy playing. I've seen some beautiful Taylors sound great in the
right hands, and the same with Martins. Also check out Collings, Santa Cruz,
Breedlove, and some of the private makers like Harvey Leach. I promise you a
good time looking!
Just my opinion.
--Jim
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Paul Hersh
Surely among the very best production acoustic guitars on the market, in
terms of sound, build quality, ease of playing, resale value. If I were
shopping for a new acoustic, I'd choose the OM28V, no question.
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TRisner52
>How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V' guitar? I am thinking of
>purchasing one from my local dealer.
>Please could you let me know the different aspects and qualities it has,
>and how it compares to other guitars. I was told that they generally
>aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you beleive this to be true?
The Martin OM28V is tonally between the 000 and D models. It has the tonal
evenness of the 000 but with a bit more sustain and undertones. I have a 000
and a D but I might have gotten the OM if they had been made or if I'd been
aware of them when I got the 000.
As far as whether Taylor or Martin is better? Play the sucker and make up your
own mind. Nobody can tell your ears what they hear. Ain't nobody's business
but yours. (to paraphrase an old song).
Tom (I wanta buy em all) from Texas
hedberg
>>Hello I'm new to this, this is my first message. My question is this:
>>How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V' guitar? I am thinking of
>>purchasing one from my local dealer.
>>Please could you let me know the different aspects and qualities it has,
>>and how it compares to other guitars. I was told that they generally
>>aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you beleive this to be true?
>>Thanks, Simon.
>
>In general most people feel that Martins and Taylors are on an equal level.
>While I like many guitars of both makers and own guitars from both, I usually
>like the Martin sound much more. I do not like the larger bodied models
>(dreadnoughts or jumbos) of either maker as I am a small bodied guitar person.
>
>
>I think that the Martin OM-28V is one of the best newer Martin models out there
>and is much better than just about any Taylor I have ever played.
>
>I would love to have one.
>
>Dick Schneiders
Dick
I. like you, own both Taylors and Martins and don't know that I can say that in
general either is better. I have a 000-28 (1991) and a friend has an OM-28
(about 1996) and I think they are both good guitars. I tend to prefer the
000-28 because the fingerboard is a little less wide and the neck is not quite
as fat. Also the scale length is about .5" less.. The 000-28 has a 1 11/16"
low profile neck and 24.9" scale which is just perfect for me. I also like the
sound of the 000-28 better but that may just be prejudice, I'm not sure. The
000-28 seems to have a clarity in the upper registers that is lacking in the
OM-28. They don't sound exactly the same and which sounds better is definitely
in the range of the subjective.
Right now my other favorite guitar is my 1993 612C. I seem to recall that you
may have owned (or still own) one of these. I think this is a fine guitar as
well though considerably "brighter" than the rosewood 000-28 -- no surprise.
Mostly, I don't like bigger guitars and tend to stay away from dreadnoughts, but
every once in a while I get really surprised. At the Kerrville Folk Festival in
May I met a guy from Dallas who had an older (maybe late 70's early 80's) Taylor
maple dreadnought. It was amazingly well balanced and responsive and I just
loved the way it sounded both finger picked and flat picked. Had it been for
sale I would have bought it without a look back. It was a very memorable guitar.
Harold
Dick Schneiders
>Right now my other favorite guitar is my 1993 612C. I seem to recall that
>you
>may have owned (or still own) one of these. I think this is a fine guitar as
>well though considerably "brighter" than the rosewood 000-28 -- no surprise.
Harold,
You certainly have an excellent memory.
Yes, I do currently own a Taylor 612C. It is one of the limited edition (only
100 made) Cotten commemorative versions. It has been at Cotten Music in
Nashville for the past 6 months on consignment as I am trying to sell it.
Unfortunately, the latest Taylor ban on advertising came about a couple of
weeks after I drove the guitar to Nashville to leave it with Darci and Kim.
I do like the sound of this small maple bodied guitar a lot. Since I play
ragtime and country blues, the bright sound and subdued bass is perfect for
those styles. Maple bodied flattops are also very good for fingerstyle jazz
chord melody stuff which is another style I like to play. However, this guitar
simply did not get played very much. I have way too many guitars and found
myself playing the older, worn and broken in guitars much more often. That is
also why I sold my mytrlewood Breedlove, which was a fantastic guitar. Partly
I needed cash to make other recent guitar purchases, and these two guitars were
still in mint condition and would bring me a better price than my old vintage
guitars.
My current favorite flattop guitars are a 1930 Martin 00-17, a 1944 Gibson
maple-bodied LG-2, and a recent guitar built by a luthier near here - it is a
Kersenbrock. Oh, and the custom Martin 5-45 I recently purchased! Of course I
have a favorite archtop, a 1946 Epiphone Triumph, and also a wonderful late
1930's brass-bodied Dobro resonator that is great for blues and slide play.
Damn, I wish that I was wealthy, so that I could afford to get some more
guitars!
Dick (I do still have 19 guitars, though) Schneiders
hedberg
>Harold writes:
>
>>Right now my other favorite guitar is my 1993 612C. I seem to recall that
>>you
>>may have owned (or still own) one of these. I think this is a fine guitar as
>>well though considerably "brighter" than the rosewood 000-28 -- no surprise.
>
>Harold,
>
>You certainly have an excellent memory.
>
. . .
Dick
Not really. A long time ago I picked up on the fact that you liked old ragtime
blues and we had a short discussion about Arthur Blake. Then when you wrote
about the 612C I noted it as another coincidence. I think we tend to remember
things about people which are indicative of interests similar to our own.
Harold
Stan Milam
: How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V' guitar? I am thinking of
: purchasing one from my local dealer.
: Please could you let me know the different aspects and qualities it has,
: and how it compares to other guitars. I was told that they generally
: aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you beleive this to be true?
: Thanks, Simon.
My own opinion is the OM-28V, along with the HD-28V, are the finest guitars
made by Martin. Their sound is fantastic, and their appointments are
understated, but beautiful.
Now, I do not know who told you that stuff about the Taylors being generally
better, but I would not listen to them too much. Do not take me wrong, as
Taylor makes some fantastic guitars, and I like many of them. I played
two fantastic 914c last week that I would loved to own, but their price -
even in a clearance sale - was astronomical. Taylor uses different
manufacturing processes than Martin, and achieves a sound all their own.
This is a good thing. What I am trying to say is I get bent out of shape
when I hear someone elevate one product by putting a compitetor down.
I feel this way when someone says what your friend did about the Martins
compared to the Taylors. I feel the same way when the Martin bigots put
Taylor down. They are two very fine companies making nice guitars. If you
are interested in investigating the Taylors, then by all means do so.
But, do not let anyone help you make a monetary decision with their own
biased opinions. Go out try the OM-28V. Go out and try some Taylors.
Become familar with the products of both companies, then you make the
decision.
Regards,
Stan "A Martin Man Myself" Milam.
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Jomack
>>I was told that they generally>aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you
>beleive this to be true?
>
T.J.?
<g>
A P Hilliard
> Hello I'm new to this, this is my first message. My question is this:
> How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V' guitar? I am thinking of
> purchasing one from my local dealer.
> Please could you let me know the different aspects and qualities it has,
> aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you beleive this to be true?
>
You need to play one for yourself. Inferior to Taylors? Bah! If you
want a nice, rich, warm old-style sound, get the Martin. If you want a
thin, bright, crisp tone, go with the Taylor. Okay I'm generalizing.
The OM28V, being a Vintage Series Martin, will have a pretty chubby V-
shaped neck, as opposed to the hand-cramp-inducing toothpick neck found
on Taylor guitars. Play both and see what you prefer.
--
--Ash
dh99
Here's my two bits worth ...BTW, get a quarter, you'll need it to help with
your purchase.
Taylor, Martin, Santa Cruz, Collings, .... If you're looking at the OM28V,
then you appear to be in a position to consider many brands of that price
range. The OM class of guitar is one of my personal favorites, good
choice.
Some observations and advice from one who suffers GAS attacks frequently.
1. Take your time. If you're buying new, try several different brands of
the class of guitar that interests you. Playing a guitar in to it's optimum
tone, establishing your relationship with it takes time, a lot of time,
after you buy it. The more time you put into playing as many examples of
the type of guitar you are interested in, the more solid you will feel
about the guitar as you enter into your relationship with it.
If you snap purchase now, odds are you end up snap selling later when you
run across another siren...err...guitar that catches your ear and you just
have to have her.
2. Take time to guage the quality of service with the dealer and by
extension, the manufacturer. These are important especially if you are in
the boonies with limited dealer base. This is an important aspect of this
purchase.
3. Play any and all examples of the models you are interested in. Work
the list down to a choice between two. e.g. A Taylor 714 and Martin
OM-28V... (My personal decision would be between the Martin and a Santa
Cruz OM)
4. Go home without purchasing anything. Sleep on the choice one more
time.
5. Take the aforementioned quarter, nah ...make it a 50 cent piece, no
no, let's use a genuine silver dollar if you have one. This is an important
choice. These are good guitars, made of the real stuff, woods, metals,
varnish,. Quality skills and labor by people who care about the quality of
sound, construction, playability. Mr Taylor and Mr Martin want you to be
happy. You want a good quality coin.
Sit down over a good cup of coffee, take the silver dollar and shine and
polish it up. Take your time and focus on that coin; shine it up good.
6. Travel on down to the dealer. Take the best example of the two
models you've narrowed the decision down to. Take them into an instruction
or other isolated room so that you can play each of them one more time.
Play some phrases on one, then play the same phrases on the other. Back and
forth... (aside, be alert for new song ideas... they often come out at
times like this). About twenty minutes total should do it.
7. Now you are ready to make your choice. Take the silver dollar,
assign heads to the Martin, tails to the Taylor, or as you wish.
8. Flip the coin and let it fall to the floor. If it is heads and your
first thought is "I wish it had been tails", then you go buy the Taylor. If
it's tails and your first thought is "Dang, I wish it had been heads", then
you go by the Martin. AND , if it stands on edge, you go place an order for
one of Jim Olsen's Small Jumbos (lead time 14 months -- 2 years) cause you
need to take time and contemplate what God may be trying to tell you.
Words from one who has been there.
Danny
xxx...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7rdpah$7i5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>Hello I'm new to this, this is my first message. My question is this:
>How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V' guitar? I am thinking of
>purchasing one from my local dealer.
>Please could you let me know the different aspects and qualities it has,
>and how it compares to other guitars. I was told that they generally
>aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do you beleive this to be true?
>Thanks, Simon.
>
>
mike...@my-deja.com
jom...@aol.com (Jomack) wrote:
> >
> >>I was told that they generally>aren't as good as Taylor guitars. Do
you
> >beleive this to be true?
> >
>
> T.J.?
>
> <g>
Joe:
I've had a question about the bracing on Martin OM's for some time, and
I'm hopeful that you will be able to answer it. I currently have a
Custom Martin OM-42 on order. Now I've heard some criticize the Martin
OM-28V (and the new standard model OM-42) because they said it didn't
have "pre-war forward shifted high X" bracing. These same folks often
sing the praises of Collings OM's saying they have the high X (of
course I agree that there are a lot of reasons to praise Collings, and
many other makers). I'm also aware that Santa Cruz claims to build
some OM's with a high X, and some with a standard X. When I was in the
process of ordering my Martin, I called the Martin Customer Service
Department and asked about the location of the X on Martin OM's. They
told me that there was no such thing as a forward shifted high X on an
OM. They said that a forward shifted high X was "a dreadnaught thing,"
and that the X on a Martin OM had been the same distance from the
soundhole since the first OM was built in 1929. This information was
soon thereafter confirmed for me by the famous owner of a California
guitar shop. If anyone can be called an OM expert, this gentleman
can. He was kind enough to measure the distance from the soundhole to
the X on a 1929 OM, and the distance from the soundhole to the X on a
new OM-28V: they each measured 1 1/8". This was not the last word on
the subject, however, because I then noticed on the Martin web-site
that the OM-42PS was advertised as having the forward shifted high X.
When I read this I had my dealer contact the Martin Custom Shop and
inquire about a high X on my custom OM. My dealer was informed that
this was indeed an option on a Martin OM, and that it would be an MSRP
of $325.00 extra. I then had my dealer measure an OM-42PS (7/8"), and
an OM-28V (1 1/8" again). At that point I decided it wasn't worth the
extra $'s to move the X 1/4" on my guitar, especially since it seems
that the standard X position on a Martin OM is more faithful to the pre-
war original than what Martin itself calls a forward shifted high X
today (the OM-42PS). I appealed to the RMMGA for advice and info but
didn't receive any definitive answers.
Anyway, after this exhaustive explanation, my question is this: does
the X on a new OM-28V (and hence an OM-21, OM-28, OM-42, and OM-45
since they all have the same bracing specs) cross the same distance
from the soundhole as the X on an original OM did? If so, then those
who criticize the Martin OM's based on their "lack of pre-war forward
shifted high X bracing" may want to re-think their positions. If this
is the case, and if "pre-war forward shifted high X" bracing is
exclusively a "dreadnaught thing," then it seems a bit deceptive that
builders advertise their OM's as having the "pre-war forward shifted
X"--although it would be pretty difficult to feel sorry for Martin if
Martin has practiced the same deception in regard to the OM-42PS?!?
I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the matter; and regardless
of the location of the X brace, I can't wait to receive my Custom Shop
Martin!!! Thanks in advance.
Mike
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Stan Milam wrote in message <7rf116$aa6$1...@news.metronet.com>...
>My own opinion is the OM-28V, along with the HD-28V, are the finest guitars
>made by Martin. Their sound is fantastic, and their appointments are
>understated, but beautiful.
>
>Regards,
>Stan "A Martin Man Myself" Milam.
I Stan behind what Stand said.... errrr... you kow what I mean..
=)
The best guitar ever made by Martin is the early OMs, and the OMv models are
a modern extension of that same guitar, awesome in all respects, and
underrated now, as they have been outside of the circle ...forever...
Balanced tone, and incredible players.. they make me hear D models as
lame...
Chant with me...OOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM....
M
M
A P Hilliard wrote in message ...
>You need to play one for yourself. Inferior to Taylors? Bah! If you
>want a nice, rich, warm old-style sound, get the Martin. If you want a
>thin, bright, crisp tone, go with the Taylor. Okay I'm generalizing.
>The OM28V, being a Vintage Series Martin, will have a pretty chubby V-
>shaped neck, as opposed to the hand-cramp-inducing toothpick neck found
>on Taylor guitars. Play both and see what you prefer.
>
>--
>--Ash
Well... I ain't (om28) gonna get (om28) involved (martin) in this one...
<cough>
Can't wait to get an OMv with banjo tuners...
M
Ted Banks
> How do you guys rate the 'Martin OM-28V' guitar?
[snip]
I think it's one of Martin's best models. Of the guitars I own, my OM
is the one I usually reach for and anyways go back to. My OM-28 was a
custom order in the early 80s with a modified v-neck, but I think the
new OMs are outstanding and I like their vintage-style tuners that mine
lack.
I also like Taylor Grand Auditorium guitars, especially the walnut
W14c, but I don't think I'll ever buy one. Just a personal preference.
Ted Banks
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