What voids warranty on new TJ?
NGSVDO
as well as many other things. My question is has anyone had to deal with
warranty issues after these kind of mods and what has been the dealers
reaction? I specifically have taken a new TJ 4.0 5speed with Dana 44. and
done a Rubicon Express 5.5 extreme long arm suspension, HD slip yoke
eliminator, CV shaft, currie lift urethane motor mounts, ARB lockers, 456
gears, some performance upgrades such as airaid tube and dynomax exhaust,
and many minor mods that do not affect driveline such as interior cage, hd
bumpers, winch etc. I am running 36x12.50x15 swampers on custom beadlocks.
At 600 miles I have developed a noise that sounds like a throw out bearing.
Noisy when in neutral with clutch out, and goes away when pressing in the
clutch and put in gear. I think the dealer will look at the mods and chalk
it up to something that was caused by my changes, or even if they agree it
is warranted the shop time may not cover having to work around the long arm
kit with the new skid plate design.
Any experience with this situation would be appreciated.
Jerry Bransford
the dealer must prove the mod caused a warrantied item to fail if they
deny the warranty. There's probably not much left of the drivetrain
warranty but the engine's internal parts and everything else should
probably be covered without much trouble.
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Richard
new. It was more pronounced at first but has seemed to go away for the most
part. It also shifts much smoother as it starts to break in. I have 18.7 K as we
speak in a little over 8 months on daily driving plus one 4K road trip. I was
following a thread a while back on this very subject and also popping out of
gear (mine has done that on a couple of occasions), I thought my trans. was
defective as well, but as I got to learn how it shifts (long slots, truck trans.
as compared to a tight shifting close ratio passenger car trans.) and as it has
broken in I have absolutely no complaints whatsoever. A very good (remember
truck) light duty transmission.
Hope this helps, good luck
Richard
Float-By Shooter
>At 600 miles I have developed a noise that sounds like a throw out bearing.
>Noisy when in neutral with clutch out, and goes away when pressing in the
>clutch and put in gear.
You should be aware that most, if not all, 00-01 TJ's with the 4.0 and
manual transmission make this noise. Mine has done it since I picked
it up with 7 miles. Over 6000 now and it hasn't been a problem. Of
course, removing the carpets didn't help any.
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Tony M
been driving it for a year and have 13,000 miles on it. The noise has
either gone away or I am so used to it I don't notice it anymore.
Tony
J Siglinger
Sport on the lot made the exact same noise.
This has been brought up several times in the past on the forums and
newsgroups. It is just a Jeep Thing.. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Jeepin' John
wrote:
>Those mods can only affect those parts directly affected by the mod, and
>the dealer must prove the mod caused a warrantied item to fail if they
>deny the warranty. There's probably not much left of the drivetrain
>warranty but the engine's internal parts and everything else should
>probably be covered without much trouble.
>
There is a law called the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act which covers you
in such situations. The law was originally intended to keep car
makers from monopolizing the replacement parts market. The act states
that you can use parts other than ones made by the car's manufacturer.
If something breaks then the manufacturer must prove the aftermarket
part caused the failure in order to deny the warranty. It's up to the
service manager at the dealership or the district service manager to
make the call on warranty repairs. That's one reason I save the stock
parts to all of my vehicles. If something major happens, you can
always return the vehicle to stock condition so that there is no
question concerning the warranty. I've been down that road before.
It turned out okay for me since the dealership's service manager and
gm were understanding. I ended up with a new car at dealer cost and
the dealership is now one of my customers.
Jeepin' John
'76 CJ-5
NGSVDO
I only have 600 miles on it I may not have noticed a lot yet.
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daryl lic
most anything else goes depending on the dealer
Sandman
> Sport on the lot made the exact same noise.
>
> This has been brought up several times in the past on the forums and
> newsgroups. It is just a Jeep Thing.. I wouldn't worry about it.
this is not just a "jeep thing". this is a design flaw and there is a TSB
to fix it.
TSB - 21-002-01
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Jerry Bransford
taller than 3". That's an old wive's tale.
Jerry
Evan and Sheila
to be actually more than a 3 inch lift, since they are two types of lift? My
friend with a 99 TJ 3 inch suspension + 1 inch body lift with 35" tires,
swing out tire carrier on the back and big honkin' rack of a front
bumper/grille guard with 4 hella lights had his power steering pump replaced
on warranty.
Lift does not void warranty.
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J Siglinger
explaining it?
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J Siglinger
do not have any of the "popping out of gear problems" or "hard to shift
problems" at all. It just clicks when you leave it in neutral and idling
with the clutch out. If you push the clutch in the click goes away. From all
of the info I have read on the '01 tranny they all do this for a while. But
like I said, if you know something we don't please post a link.
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J Siglinger
there is indeed a TSB out on the 2001 Models for this. The number Sandman
listed is correct and here is what they said.
TSB 21-002-01
Symptom: Gear Transound when in neutral.
Solution: Replace Transfer Case Range Lever.
So I guess It isn't just a Jeep Thing. He did say however it was not a
"destructive" problem. That is is just a fix to eliminate the noise.
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daryl lic
Jerry Bransford
>
> read the fine print jerry in the warranty book
No, you read the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act act that forbids
what you just described. Go to
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/warranty/undermag.htm and
you'll see.
Jerry
Evan and Sheila
see clearly in my reply. Of course there's always the chance that the
dealership my friend goes to doesn't have the warranty book.. Maybe that's
why..
I'd think that a Jeep lifted a total of 4 inches with 35 inch tires, big
beefy bumpers and trail rack on the back and a 9,000lb Warn winch mounted on
the front would have a problem getting a power steering pump replaced on
warranty if there was such a thing as voided warranty after 3 inches of
lift. Especially with the combination of 35 inch tires and it being a power
steering pump problem..
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