strange eye feeling
Eugene Phar
developed some kind of strange feeling - it probably isnt a dry eye
(that is what my opthalmologist said), but when there is a low
humidity of the air (sunny days) I feel burning in my eyes and as if
there were an eyelash in my eye. I've met twice with my opthalmologist
recently and he said that winter is a more difficult time for contact
wearers. He advised me to use Clerz drops on more frequent basis. It
did not help. When my eyes start to burn the drops seem not to change
anything. I met with him second time and he said that it could have
been caused by some alergic reaction of my eyes. He gave me Patanol
drops to use twice a day (before I put contacts on and after I take
them out), but after few days my eyes feel the same. My lens
prescription is OD -9.5 OS -6.5 (bc 8.7 dia 14) with cylindrical
correction in spectacles worn over them.
Do you have any ideas what the cause of that could be? Has anyone
experienced the same thing? I dont want to give up on those contact
lenses because my vision is much better in them than in glasses (not
mentioning the ugly look of thick lenses in glasses).
Thanks for help
Eugene
Eugene Phar
there was some dryness (could have been caused by the blower in my
car, and general lower humidity). Alcon dops did not help and now he
gave me Refresh LiqiGel drops to use when I go to bed. I just tried
them - they fell like oil, but also seem not to help. What would you
advise me to do? I am getting crazy about it, and feel miserable.
Does anyone have any comments?
I tried to wear glasses again but after 4 months I already got used to
those contacts and in glasses my vision is much different (abberations
etc).
I see better in contacts OD -9.50 OS -6.50 with spectacles over them
(OD cyl -2.00 ax 40 OS cyl -2.00 ax 150) than just in glasses with
prescription OD -11.25 cyl -2.25 ax 28 OS -8.00 cyl -2.50 ax 145).
Please write some comments on this or make any suggestions that would
help me.
Anyone?
fa...@interia.pl (Eugene Phar) wrote in message news:<f38f589b.04010...@posting.google.com>...
Rishi Giovanni Gatti
> I see better in contacts OD -9.50 OS -6.50 with spectacles over them
> (OD cyl -2.00 ax 40 OS cyl -2.00 ax 150) than just in glasses with
> prescription OD -11.25 cyl -2.25 ax 28 OS -8.00 cyl -2.50 ax 145).
>
> Please write some comments on this or make any suggestions that would
> help me.
>
> Anyone?
>
It's difficult.
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Chimera0815
You have dry eyes. I strongly recommend to try rigid gas permeable lenses
(RGP). RGPs will also correct your astigmatism. You will have better vision in
them and they are healthier for your eyes.
Eugene Phar
months?
there are also days when my eyes feel fine. As I said rewetting drops
dont help much. Is there a possibility that i could have the same
problems with RGPs?
chime...@aol.com (Chimera0815) wrote in message news:<20040108063851...@mb-m06.aol.com>...
Rishi Giovanni Gatti
> how is it then possible that there were no problems for first 4
> months?
> there are also days when my eyes feel fine. As I said rewetting drops
> dont help much. Is there a possibility that i could have the same
> problems with RGPs?
you will have the same problems unless you learn how to stop the strain
in the eye and mind.
Chimera0815
Dan Abel
fa...@interia.pl (Eugene Phar) wrote:
> how is it then possible that there were no problems for first 4
> months?
> there are also days when my eyes feel fine. As I said rewetting drops
> dont help much. Is there a possibility that i could have the same
> problems with RGPs?
I'm not any kind of medical person, but I suspect dry eyes also. You may
not have had problems the first 4 months because the humidity was higher
in the fall than in the winter. I find that being at work dries out my
eyes because of the heating and cooling in summer and winter.
However, I find that the rewetting drops help, but only if I use them
*before* the burning starts. If they aren't helping you, and you are
using them often, then that could shoot my theory.
--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
da...@sonic.net
Eugene Phar
irritation by the end of the day. I feel more eye strain in the
evening when its dark, and then I experience kind of foreign body
sensation in the eyes, not severe but still destroys my feelings. When
its dark I happen to see some halos (for extremely short time after
blinking - Does all contacts wearers experience such a thing?)
Patanol drops did not change the situation so we probably can say that
the problem is not caused by allergy eyes. On the other hand when the
irritation begins, drops taken seem not to help (even if taken every
hour or two, so it probably does not agree with your theory.
Yesterday I took Liquigel (for severely and moderate dry eyes) drops
in the evening and they also did not change the situation. I also took
them fer hours ago and now I feel the same.
Would change in contacts brand help? If yes, what types? Now I use
Acuvue 2.
My doc still says that for him it looks like dryness. However I have
never experienced dry eyes when I was wearing glasses.
da...@sonic.net (Dan Abel) wrote in message news:<dabel-08010...@ssu-64en129.sonoma.edu>...
Rishi Giovanni Gatti
> My doc still says that for him it looks like dryness. However I have
> never experienced dry eyes when I was wearing glasses.
Contacts lenses are second in dangerousness only to lasik and other
surgical operations. This means they are very very dangerous all the same.
The symptoms developed after their introduction are evidence of mental
strain.
The people that develop those symptomsa re most fortunate because they
can convince dthemselves that these devices are not suitable for them
and avoid so their use. This is pure luck! Otherwise, things get worse
day by day and recover from many years opf contact lenses it seems, on
average, much more difficult.
Anyway, I have used -4 contact lenses semi-rigid between 1986 and 1990,
and I can witness that you can recover. But I think that I could have
spared much time for recovery if I hadn't used them in the first place.
With eyeglasses you keep a consciousness that you are not "right" with
your eyes.
With contacts, if you get accustomed to them and this does not produce
symptoms, you can easily "forget" your defect and accept the belief that
you are seeing well. This is not right, because you are not seeing well
at all: you are seeing a world which is artificially made more near of
what it is in reality. This is truly bad. It wrecks you natural faculty
of imagination, stares your fixation and acts as a subtle generator of
uneasiness in the bodymind. All sorts of disease may develop, not only
related to the eye.
Modern medicine is full of such stories of strange, unknown ailments
continually popping up despite the strong efforts tried by the medical
class to find the best treatrents.
Dan Abel
> My doc still says that for him it looks like dryness. However I have
> never experienced dry eyes when I was wearing glasses.
For me it's definitely the contacts. I also have never had dry eye with
glasses. The other thing is simple dehydration. We got lost once while
hiking. The being lost part wasn't a problem, since we were circling a
lake. The problem was that the trail didn't go all the way around the
lake, and it was starting to get dark. We were out way longer than
planned, and only had a pint of water for the five of us on a hot, long
hike through rough territory. I got home and my contact literally fell
out of my eye because it had dried out.
Mike Tyner
chemistry cause lenses to suddenly fit differently, and loose lenses feel dry.
Haloes after blinking suggest an altered tear film, perhaps an excess of protein
or oily secretions, or normal oils altered by meibomianitis, blepharitis,
hormone changes, lots of things.
So the simplest and cheapest thing I'd try first is changing the fit, at the
same time switching to contacts made from a different class of materials. There
are also lenses with special surface modifications to resist buildup and
stimulate less reaction. If those changes don't produce improvement, you might
benefit from a trial of doxycycline, or two flax oil capsules twice a day.
-MT
"Eugene Phar" <fa...@interia.pl> wrote in message
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Chimera0815
your eyes are too dry. You don't notice that when you wear glasses. Your tear
film is not able to support a soft contact lens. You can try to wear RGPs. If
that doesn't work you can wear glasses or get refractive surgery.
Rishi Giovanni Gatti
> So the simplest and cheapest thing I'd try first is changing the fit, at the
> same time switching to contacts made from a different class of materials. There
No. What happens if he finds "good" contacts that he finds himself fit
with? He will disregard the only intelligent messages his eyes were
sending, that was "please help me relieve the strain".
How can you all be so blind, is difficult to understand.
Eugene Phar
I have met few times with my opthalmologist in last 3 weeks so I think
he would've noticed if the lenses were loose.
"So the simplest and cheapest thing I'd try first is changing the fit,
at the
same time switching to contacts made from a different class of
materials"
Mike, is it any type you would suggest? Should I consider RGPs as
well?
Today I have been wearing glasses (quality of the sight is much worse
than in contacts, eveything seems to be smaller [especially my eyes
when I look into the mirror]). While at home I didn't feel burning or
irritation (besides much different vision in comparison to contacts)
After few hours I drove to my school and I also noticed burning when
the air blower in the car was on, but the burning stopped once I got
out of the car. When I had contacts on, the burning stayed longer.
I forgot to previously mention that recently I have very small pimples
on my eye lids.
On the left eye the pimple is in the middle of the upper eyelid, right
where the eye touches the eyelid. The second pimple is on the lower
eyelid but more to the left (also in place where eyelid touches the
eye). There also was a pimple on the eyelid of the right eye but it
disappeared after few hours. Is it an indication of any kind of a
problem?
To Chimera:
I know that I can wear glasses but the contacts give me much better
vision. The glasses with my prescription (right eye -11.25 left -8.25)
dont give very good results there is some distortion, the lenses have
to be small because of the thickness etc Isn't it surprising for you
that I see better with contacts OD -9.5 OS -6.5 than in glasses OD
-11.25 OS -8.00?
I also heared that RGPs are more difficult to wear than soft contacts.
In addition my vision when corrected gives me only 20/70
The doctor that I met with said that my cornea is not a very good
material for lasik because it is thin.
I am still not convinced that it is a permannent dryness of my eyes
because there were no problems for the first 4 months of wearing
contacts.
Thank you for all your replies.
"Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<RiqLb.34036$IM3....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Jkumar167
>on my eye lids.
This is actually a very important piece of information. You could have
meibomianitis (sp?) an inflammation of the meibomian glands (oil glands) of the
eyelid. They secrete some of the components of the tears. If they are
inflammed, it can affect the tear film composition, and make the eyes seem dry
when they weren't before. You should mention this to your eye doctor and ask
for advice in treating it. It can be a chronic problem and VERY difficult to
treat. Usually lid scrubs and hot packs are called for, and if you're not
willing to do them daily (maybe twice a day) for several weeks you might not
get rid of the problem. Sometimes antibiotics need to be added to the mix.
You should mention the pimples to your doctor and ask if he noted them. If
s/he sees no significance to this, find another doctor. Just my opinion. I
think this is a key piece of information that makes the rest of your symptoms
make more sense.
Mike Tyner
Otherwise, they should move about a millimeter or less when you blink. If the
movement is good (not excessive) then another brand might still feel better.
> Mike, is it any type you would suggest? Should I consider RGPs as
> well?
GPs generally give more sensation, not less, though it becomes tolerable.
If you were in my office we'd try Acuvue 8.3, Proclear 8.2, and perhaps the old
B&L 8.4.
> After few hours I drove to my school and I also noticed burning when
> the air blower in the car was on, but the burning stopped once I got
> out of the car. When I had contacts on, the burning stayed longer.
Burning and itching can be a symptom of dry eyes. My corneal specialist
recommends flax seed oil twice a day.
-MT
Eugene Phar
When I met with my doctor I mentioned it to him but at that time I had
only one pimple on the upper eyelid (as I said before it is placed
underneath [in case of upper eyelid] the line of the eyelashes but it
actually touches the eye) of the right eye which disappeared after few
hours so when I was in doctor's office he probably couldn't see it.
But I will stress it more on Wednesday when I have an appointment with
him.
Would those pimples cause any negative effects as to quality of
vision?
They are not red but the same color as the neighboring tissue of the
eyelid, relatively small and now there are two of them on the left
eye.
Mike, do you also have any comments on that?
jkum...@aol.com (Jkumar167) wrote in message news:<20040109173644...@mb-m14.aol.com>...
Mike Tyner
"Eugene Phar" <fa...@interia.pl> wrote
> only one pimple on the upper eyelid (as I said before it is placed
> underneath [in case of upper eyelid] the line of the eyelashes but it
> actually touches the eye) of the right eye which disappeared after few
> hours so when I was in doctor's office he probably couldn't see it.
> Would those pimples cause any negative effects as to quality of
> vision?
Sometimes the epithelium grows over the opening of a meibomian gland, and a
"pimple" forms as normal oil secretion bulges out the covering layer. Eventually
it pops and everything's back to normal. I can't say I've ever seen these affect
vision. It takes something bigger and harder, like a stye, to depress or mold
the cornea.
-MT
Neil_Brooks
> When I met with my doctor I mentioned it to him but at that time I had
> only one pimple on the upper eyelid (as I said before it is placed
> underneath [in case of upper eyelid] the line of the eyelashes but it
> actually touches the eye) of the right eye which disappeared after few
> hours so when I was in doctor's office he probably couldn't see it.
> But I will stress it more on Wednesday when I have an appointment with
> him.
> Would those pimples cause any negative effects as to quality of
> vision?
> They are not red but the same color as the neighboring tissue of the
> eyelid, relatively small and now there are two of them on the left
> eye.
>
> Mike, do you also have any comments on that?
>
You may want to see an ophthalmologist, asking that they look at the
inside of your eyelids. Possibly something called giant papillary
conjunctivitis. This could contribute to eye irritation and vision
issues.
Wouldn't rush right out for refractive surgery as a severe dry eye
patient. To my knowledge, *every* refractive surgery has a tendency
to exacerbate dry eyes.
Some of the nightly eye lubes (I use Genteal) seem to offer relief,
especially when the regimen is maintained consistently. A humidifier
in the room where you sleep can help. The flax seed oil caps seem to
have nothing but upside.
You may want to ask your ophthalmologist whether you're experiencing
any issues relating to accommodative spasm. You have a strong
prescription, handled by cl's *and* glasses. Lots of optical issues.
Probably lots of accommodation on your part.
Just some thoughts from the cheap seats. Best of luck!
Mike Tyner
"Neil_Brooks" <neil...@yahoo.com> wrote
> You may want to see an ophthalmologist, asking that they look at the
> inside of your eyelids. Possibly something called giant papillary
> conjunctivitis. This could contribute to eye irritation and vision
> issues.
I'm only an optometrist, but GPC doesn't form pimples at the lid margins.
> fa...@interia.pl (Eugene Phar) wrote in message
> > When I met with my doctor I mentioned it to him but at that time I had
Rishi Giovanni Gatti
>
> Wouldn't rush right out for refractive surgery as a severe dry eye
> patient. To my knowledge, *every* refractive surgery has a tendency
> to exacerbate dry eyes.
That's interesting!
This means surgery is not a solution.
Rishi Giovanni Gatti
> I'm only an optometrist, but GPC doesn't form pimples at the lid margins.
I thought you were a doctor!!!
Jkumar167
>> I'm only an optometrist, but GPC doesn't form pimples at the lid margins.
>
>I thought you were a doctor!!!
>
>--
He is a doctor! At least in the US, optometrists are considered doctors!
Rishi Giovanni Gatti
He is not a doctor otherwise he would have said he is a doctor!