I have two installations of win2k in the two differents partitions of my hd,
one in the acpi mode, other in the non acpi (i have forced non acpi
mode -standard computer -in the 2nd installation of win2k) with apm module.
The apm activation in the second installation of win2k cause blue screen
after shutdown or suspend mode, and is not possible (not disponible) the
standby mode.
The acpi installation have normal boot and normal powersaving mode, but is
very half cpu performance: the system information and directx diagnostic
tools display half cpu frequency (266mhz) and is very bad (confusioned music
play...) the result of directmusic test in the directx diagnostic tool
(normal test result in the non acpi installation).
Is not possible, for example, in the acpi installation, to work with
microsoft windows media encode for videocapture with my webcam, and the
error is "...computer not sufficientely performant.." (very confortable and
performant work in the non acpi installation ...).
In the acpi installation the software Sisoft Sandra 2001 display in the
mainbord information "cpu speed 266 mhz", "front side bus speed = 50 mhz",
(is normally 100 mhz...), "memory bus speed 50 mhz" , "pci bus speed 17
mhz..." and the cpu benchmark is half respect to the normal (correct bus
speeds and benchmarks is displayed in the same software in the non
acpi installation...). Others diagnostics softwares display same half bus
speed.
The half performance of cpu in the acpi installation is visible with the
velocity of windows open and other work performance.
Thankful for suggestions....
gbt-tech <gbt...@btclick.com> wrote in message
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Mike Mullen...Your reply is less than helpful!
You work for Gigabyte tech support and you should have something a little
more constructive to say about this problem.
W2k is an important OS worldwide, yet this problem seems to preclude its use
with the GA5 AX?
Surely Gigabyte owe us a proper technical explanation?
Your further comments will be appreciated
Colin
"Shazam" <gm...@toad.net> wrote in message
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Jeff C.
PS,
Upon reflection, maybe the problem is not only with the chipset as GB say,
but also maybe there is a problem with Win2k and the clock generator chip
used in the GB boards?
That would explain the half speed problems with the 5AX. AA's but not with
the P5A's wouldn't it??
Your thoughts?
Jeff C.
"Colin Bocking" <millenn...@crouchvale.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Jeff Cochrane" <jeff_c...@no.damn.spam.jeffscomputers.com> wrote in
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I am not a W2K user myself but many people DO use this OS and your
explanation is appreciated. I just wonder whether Microsoft make any mention
of this incompatibility in their advertising blurb for W2K.....but I guess
we all know the answer to that one!
ps GA5AX still available here in the UK!
Colin
"gbt-tech" <gbt...@btclick.com> wrote in message
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The only time the Super7 lags is with games and that is because the K6-2/3
family has a relatively weak floating unit. And since Win2K is not a gaming
OS, I don't buy the argument that Win2K is not designed for operation on
Socket7 processors.
The ASUS P5A has used the following Ali Alladin V revisions: E, G
The Gigabyte 5AX has used the following Ali Alladin V revisions: E, and H.
They both used the E revision. I honestly cannot believe that it is a
problem with the chipset.
"Jeff Cochrane" <jeff_c...@no.damn.spam.jeffscomputers.com> wrote in
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On reflection, it seems unlikely that Microsoft would launch an OS (Win 2k)
which is inadequate on such an important architecture as SS7, outdated
though it now is.
Any further comment, Mike or Jeff??
Colin
"Trinity" <gm...@toad.net> wrote in message
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SS7 WAS an important architecture (Note the 'WAS'), but in Intels (and
almost everyone else's) view, it was dead and buried and had been for some
time when Win2k was released.
Jeff C.
"Colin Bocking" <millenn...@crouchvale.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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But SS7 hardware is still on sale here in the UK. Win2K was released over a
year ago! One might reasonably assume that the OS would support the hardware
especially as it is a business OS and businesses do not tend to be bothered
about the highest end machines. In any case, the GA5AX and Win2K DO work
well together in some cases!
As I have said before, it does not matter to me because I am not a Win2K
user, but it would just be nice to know where the problem lies
Colin
"Jeff Cochrane" <jeff_c...@no.damn.spam.jeffscomputers.com> wrote in
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Jeff C.
"Colin Bocking" <millenn...@crouchvale.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Gigabyte was until at least Feb 2000 (Manufacture date of my GA-5AA board)
Do you know them?
Available this very day from insight.com together with AMD K6 2 500.
We have a very long thread here but I still think we deserve an explanation
from either Gigabyte or Microsoft (the latter might be out of the question).
Colin
"Jeff Cochrane" <jeff_c...@no.damn.spam.jeffscomputers.com> wrote in
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I completely disagree. If Win2K doesn't "support" the Socket7/Super7
platform then how come it automatically recognizes the chipsets for the
following Socket 7 chipsets (Intel TX, HX etc) and Super7 chipsets (Via MVP3
and Ali Aladdin V)?
When I installed Win2K on my old Supermicro Intel TX based motherboard and
my newer Tyan S1598C2 VIA MVP3 based motherboard, Win2K automatically
recognized the chipsets on their motherboards. It runs great!
I have not tried it on my Gigabyte GA-5AX yet but I have heard of many
people running Win2K successfully on other Ali Aladdin V based motherboards.
Win2K runs on these motherboards because MS purposely supplied support for
the older platforms. It was not "unintended". Are you trying to imply that
MS "accidently" put drivers for those chipsets in Win2K and "accidently"
wrote the installation procedure to "accidently" detect which chipset it is
being installed on so it can "accidently" load the correct motherboard
drivers on bootup?
Jeff Cochrane <jeff_c...@no.damn.spam.jeffscomputers.com> wrote in
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I think I found the solution to the 1/2 CPU speed problem. According to the
AMD Zone forums, you have to disable ACPI and/or APM and then Win2K will run
at full speed on the GA-5AX. It's been verified by a user to work.
To me, the solution makes sense. On the Gigabyte GA-5AX, it has a thermal
sensor that "slows down" the cpu when it overheats. Maybe on Win2K, with
APM/ACPI enabled, it thinks the cpu is overheating and slows it down
half-speed.
So this is not an Ali Aladdin V chipset issue. And it is not a problem of
Win2K not supporting the Super7 platform.
This is a problem with the Gigabyte's handling of ACPI/APM and its secretive
thermal sensor (why doesn't Gigabyte publish the specs to this thermal
sensor so someone can write a temperature monitoring utility that shows us
the CPU temperature while in Windows?).
I now have a low opinion of Gigabyte's technical staff if they could not
have figured out the solution to this problem. How could they blame it on
the Ali Aladdin V chipset when no other Aladdin V based motherboard has this
problem? It's just plain common sense that the problem is with the Gigabyte
GA-5AX.
kotor <ko...@kotor.com> wrote in message
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I must say, I have always had problems with ACPI/APM on this board (I have 3
of them!)
Whaddya say Gigabyte?
Whaddya think Jeff?
Colin
"Shazam" <gm...@toad.net> wrote in message
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All I can say is kudo's to the person[s] who nutted out the problem and came
up with a viable answer.
Jeff C.
"Colin Bocking" <millenn...@crouchvale.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Regards
Nikos Tampakis
Shazam <gm...@toad.net> wrote in message
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Question, has anybody actually verified that the Gigabyte's thermal sensor
works? How does verify that it is working? I remember one guy posting that
he has verified that it works but I've never seen anyone else.
Oh well, dispite its problems I still feel the Gigabyte GA-5AX is one of the
better Super7 motherboards out there...
Nikolaos Tampakis <ntab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It's also possible to just disable ACPI from the Control Panel in Win2K.
Check out the forums in www.amdzone.com. There was some threads about this.
Hope this helps.
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