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Lina

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Feb 17, 2001, 11:42:58 AM2/17/01
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Hi,
Is there any way to use a TV set as a monitor for your computer? I've been
suffering from chronic daily headaches for almost 2 years triggered by the
computer monitor. What I can't understand is that the TV doesn't give me a
headache at all no matter how long I watch it, no matter how close I am to
it, and I never get a headache from sunlight (It seems that there's a
difference between the kind of light coming from a computer monitor or
flourescent lights and that coming from the TV or ordinary light bulb.)

I would appreciate any feedback.
Sincerely,
Lina

Nick L

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Feb 17, 2001, 1:54:58 PM2/17/01
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forget it, the tv's resolution is 1/3 that of your monitor. what's really
the prb. is a cheap/poor graphics card, cheap/poor monitor, wrong video
settings or a combo of all 3.

are u using at least a 15" monitor?
is your refresh at least 72hz?
is there glare on your screen?
is the screen fuzzy?

answering no to either of the 1st 2 and yes to the last 2 will hurt your
eyes

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Brock Landers

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Feb 17, 2001, 3:42:39 PM2/17/01
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It's your refresh rate. I get a headache too if my monitor is set at 60 Hz. At 85 (1280x1024x32)
it's perfectly fine.

You should tell us more about your system: What is its current refresh rate, what's your monitor,
and videocard?

Some older monitors are limited to 60 Hz. So you might be stuck.

Brock

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Lina

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Feb 17, 2001, 4:30:02 PM2/17/01
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Here's my whole story:

I've been suffering from debilitating chronic daily headaches for almost 2
years triggered by the computer monitor. My headaches get better after I
stop looking at the screen for about half an hour. The
days I don't use the computer at all I feel great.
My headaches are also triggered by flourescent lights.
I tried a TFT LCD monitor, my headaches got better but I still got daily
headaches. LCDs aren't supposed to flicker but I could sure see them
flicker. After 6 months using an LCD, I bought an 17-inch NEC aperture grill
monitor (160 Hz) and a Voodoo video card. It didn't flicker at all, but it
still gave me debilitating daily headaches. I use sunglasses while using the
computer which helps a bit. I also have most of my system colors altered
so that I type on a gray background instead of white. I use a 3M anti-glare
filter, and I sit 25 inches away from the monitor.
My headaches seem to be worse when I get a lot of sleep, and better when I
don't get that much sleep.
I am talking an antidepressant (Nortriptyline, 50 MG/day), which makes me
sleep a lot. I don't know if that is a factor.

What I can't understand is that the TV doesn't give me a headache at all no

matter how long I watch it, and I never get a headache from sunlight (It


seems that there's a difference between the kind of light coming from a
computer monitor or flourescent lights and that coming from the TV or

ordinary light bulb.) That's why I want to try to use a TV as a monitor.

I've had comprehensive eye check-up, in which everything turned out normal
and healthy. I don't wear glasses.

I would appreciate any feedback.
Sincerely,
Lina

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Eric Gross

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Feb 17, 2001, 6:35:52 PM2/17/01
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I'm not going to even try to guess why the computer monitor affects you
adversly while a TV doesn't, but you could use a TV as a monitor quite
easily if you wanted. Just get a video card with a TV out. Assuming it has a
smart enough BIOS onboard, if you boot up with no VGA monitor attached and
just a TV connected to it, it *should* boot straight to that (it does on my
Hercules Geforce2 GTS with brooktree TV-out). I'm pretty sure most of the
reference Geforce cards do this, and probably other kinds of cards too (I'd
check first though). You can then set Windows to use large fonts and icons
so you can actually read text onscreen. Many people have done this to
integrate a computer as the central part of their home theater systems with
a good amount of sucess.

-Eric Gross

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SparkPlug Division

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Feb 17, 2001, 7:14:19 PM2/17/01
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Lina Wrote:

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Hello Lina.

Getting a headache while using a computer indicates eye strain. You do not get
one watching TV.
The TV is so much farther than the computer. Your eyes are in close mode when
on the computer. The headache indicates that your eyes are OK for far objects,
the TV, but have problems and strain when focussing on a close object that
keeps the same distance for a long period of time.
Your eye test only indicated that your eyes can focus -- it did
not indicate that they had to work very hard up close.

My recommendation -- get a set of glasses to help you see close. That should
clear the problem.
While your at it -- get a good Video card and LCD monitor, LCD Monitors do not
flicker -- and are a great improvement over a CRT Monitor. The flicker you saw
with the LCD Monitor -- could be your brain substituting the flicker -- after
having gotten used to a CRT Monitor. A similar effect can be seen when
switching from a curved Monitor to a flat one. The brain substitutes and makes
the flat Monitor look concave with the image bowed in.

Hope this helps.

Hans

The Mad German - Who knows everything -- well OK -- almost everything.

Le, D. (Day)

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Feb 19, 2001, 4:52:49 AM2/19/01
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if you havent done so: right click desktop, properties, settings,
advance settings, performance, set the refresh rate to 72Hz or higher
but seeing that your very sensitive you should try for a setting of 85Hz
or higher, if you cant get 85Hz at the resolution you want try going
down a resolution, also set the contrast and brightness to suit your
room lighting condition, set the contrast to almost highest level about
85-90 % of maximum, then move the brightness to a point where the black
colours on you monitor matches that of the black border, look at the
boorder of you monitor you'll see a black border thats not part of the
tube kinda look like it's painted on, next to this is the black border
of the tube, try resizing your monitor image to help a little so the
black border for the tube is more visible (you can set it back to normal
after you calibrated your brightness setting), then set your brightness
till the two are as close as possible, also make sure your windows
background colour (not the desktop but the background colour that is
used by windows explorer (not internet explorer but the one you use to
view files and such likes) is not set to white, cause this can cause
some problems with sensitive people, i personally have it set to an off
white sandy colour.

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Day

danny

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Feb 21, 2001, 8:39:36 AM2/21/01
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Hi there, it is possibe to get your computer running through a tv but you'd
need some sort of output, I use a radeon graphics card with tv out to input
to mine but its only useful for watching dvds or playing games, any text
that is displayed is blurry and unreadable even using an s-video connection.
The reason your monitor causes more problems than your tv would be that you
are running in a higher resolution, only things I can think of are to knock
the resolution as low as you can stand or buy a bigger monitor :( Hope this
helps some

Danny
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RAS

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Feb 21, 2001, 9:23:17 AM2/21/01
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You don't look at a tv the way you look at a computer monitor. The use the
same basic technology, but the tv image is much, much, much poorer than any
computer monitor. The refresh rate is low, it is interlaced (only
alternate scan lines per refresh) and it has lower resolution.

Do not waste any time using the tv for a computer if you want to reduce eye
strain.

Some things to look into:

You may need special eye glasses for computer use. The normal viewing
distance is too far for reading glasses and too close for distance
correction. If you are 40 or older, this should be checked by your
optometrist.

Do you have a high quality monitor with a high refresh rate correctly set?

Finally, many people find, as I do, that a good quality flat panel display
is much better than any CRT. The 15" on the IBM Thinkpad I am using now is
a joy for any text work. Have you tried a high quality laptop? You can
get the same type of display for your computer.


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Logix

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Feb 21, 2001, 3:46:56 PM2/21/01
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i can use my Radeon 64ddr video card and 34 inch tv as a monitor easily...
video card has 3 video out options and 1 video in option.. good card also..
i usually only use it to play games, but i could use it for normal desktop
if i wanted to...
(Woman would kill me, using her big tv for my monitor... but i could)

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mich

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Feb 22, 2001, 7:17:12 PM2/22/01
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There are also some monitors/tv on which you ccan ccconnect as well as the
tv kable as the monitor cable

we used them for a time and could link our laptops to it and the view was ok
and we also could watch some tv

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Ya...@the.keyboard

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May 8, 2001, 2:39:57 PM5/8/01
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Anyone have any experience with this device? Good or bad? Thinking
about trying one. 79.99 at Tiger

Ron Reaugh

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May 8, 2001, 4:55:35 PM5/8/01
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Ya...@the.keyboard wrote in message ...

>Anyone have any experience with this device? Good or bad? Thinking
>about trying one. 79.99 at Tiger


Get one. Try it and tell us. Many are wondering.


ya...@the.keyboard

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May 8, 2001, 7:17:21 PM5/8/01
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I think I might - BUT, after I thought a little about things, I will
need enough bays to handle (1) the device, (2) three HDDs, (3) my CD
drives, and lastly my FDD. That adds up to four 3 1/2" bays (one with
outside access), and three 5 1/4" bays (all with outside access). My
present box is not big enough. I'll have to get a new box as well. I
need 300W anyway, so I will see what I can do I guess.

Yanni

photoman3

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May 8, 2001, 9:58:01 PM5/8/01
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$79.99 at Office Depot plus a $40 rebate on a Maxtor hard drive if both are
bought on the same receipt.

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she...@tsaiche.li

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May 10, 2001, 6:46:52 AM5/10/01
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TIA

S

she...@tsaiche.li

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May 10, 2001, 7:30:46 AM5/10/01
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On Thu, 10 May 2001 01:20:34 -1000, John Smith <Jo...@Smith.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 May 2001 10:46:52 GMT, she...@tsaiche.li wrote:
>
>>TIA
>>
>>S
>
>You can use DUMETER - shareware, downloadable bit only works one hour
>a day until you pay and enter a code.
>
>There are other utils Ive seen but DUmeter seems popular because it
>really small , a little window that pops up you can place anywhere and
>resize showing the constant changes in speed.

Thanks - I'll look for it & try it.
:>)
Shenmo

Sci-Fi

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May 10, 2001, 7:58:01 AM5/10/01
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You could use VitalAgentIT, it's free...
http://www.lucentnps.com/software/vitalsuite/vitalagentit/marqueeindex.asp .
I use it for network monitoring, but it does do
throughput/send/receive/transaction times/etc. for cable/xdsl/dialup
modem/news/ftp/etc., very handy program. Highly recommend it's use.

Hope the info helps...Sci-Fi


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> TIA
>
> S


Yanni

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May 10, 2001, 9:17:35 AM5/10/01
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On Thu, 10 May 2001 11:58:01 GMT, "Sci-Fi" <Sc...@TechEmail.Com>
wrote:

> You could use VitalAgentIT, it's free...
>http://www.lucentnps.com/software/vitalsuite/vitalagentit/marqueeindex.asp .
>I use it for network monitoring, but it does do
>throughput/send/receive/transaction times/etc. for cable/xdsl/dialup
>modem/news/ftp/etc., very handy program. Highly recommend it's use.
>
> Hope the info helps...Sci-Fi
>
>

I'll get VitalAgentIT & try it. Thanks.
DU Meter seems to work ok. Be interesting to see which is more
useful.

Cya

:>)

Yanni

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