changing location of subdocument
Anita
see the path for the hyperlink where the subdoc is
stored. I will be moving the master doc and subdocs for
another user to take over this document. I cannot see
where or how to edit the subdocs' hyperlink to indicate
the new path.
Suggestions?
Charles Kenyon
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"Master Document" is a term of art in Word referring to a "feature" that not
only doesn't work but also destroys documents. The consensus (with the
limited exception of Steve Hudson) among those offering advice on these
newsgroups is that using the Master Document feature is a sure way to
destroy your document. It can destroy parts of your document that you are
not even working on! I think John McGhie said it succinctly when he said
that there are two kinds of Master Documents: Those that are corrupt and
those that will be corrupt soon. See <URL:
http://www.addbalance.com/word/masterdocuments.htm> for information on the
Master Document feature and workarounds. (This page also has a link to Steve
Hudson's chapter on how he gets Master Documents to work.) See <URL:
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/WhyMasterDocsCorrupt.htm> for more
information on what goes wrong, and <URL:
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RecoverMasterDocs.htm> for ideas on
how to salvage what you can.
--
Charles Kenyon
Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:
<URL: http://addbalance.com/word/index.htm>
Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
<URL: http://addbalance.com/usersguide/index.htm>
See also the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
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Anita
never run into the nightmare scenarios described in those
pages. I have always had success in generating the
document, the TOC, the index, the multiple headers,
footers, etc. Maybe its because I always created a
specific template for the master and subsequent subdocs,
used one set of specfic styles, always left the master
blank -- putting all text etc in the subs. All I know is
for the manuals I have written over the years, I have not
regretted using Master docs. When writing manuals which
would easily exceed the 32MB limit of a document size and
chapters which are graphic-heavy, what choice does one
have really?
I will say the Master docs look and features are somewhat
different in Word 2002 than in earlier versions. And that
certainly took some getting used to. And it has certainly
made it more difficult to teach the feature to less
experienced Word users.
Be that as it may, the master and its related subs DO
exist and will continue to exist. So, I am left with the
original question which is editing the hyperlink. If it
can't be edited, then it can't and I will simply have to
recreate the master and establish new links in the
subdocs' new location. But something instinctively tells
me this should not be so. Recreating anything seems
counter to the whole premise of word processing, n'est-ce
pas?
>.
>
Robert M. Franz (RMF)
Anita wrote:
>
> Interesting reading. I must say, though, that I have
> never run into the nightmare scenarios described in those
> pages. I have always had success in generating the
> document, the TOC, the index, the multiple headers,
> footers, etc. Maybe its because I always created a
> specific template for the master and subsequent subdocs,
> used one set of specfic styles, always left the master
> blank -- putting all text etc in the subs. All I know is
> for the manuals I have written over the years, I have not
> regretted using Master docs. When writing manuals which
> would easily exceed the 32MB limit of a document size and
> chapters which are graphic-heavy, what choice does one
> have really?
FWIW, Word's 32 MByte limit concerns the text-size only, not including
any (graphical) objects whatsoever. And 32 MByte is a whole LOT of
text!! :-)
> I will say the Master docs look and features are somewhat
> different in Word 2002 than in earlier versions. And that
> certainly took some getting used to. And it has certainly
> made it more difficult to teach the feature to less
> experienced Word users.
I think there's where most of us in here disagree with you. While MD
"might" be OK for someone with a lot of "Word mileage" and very
structured working habits, I'd never dare teach it to somebody "less
experienced". Even John McGhie pointed out that the MD feature hasn't
changed for better or worse with Version 2002, but that Word itself has
become a bit more stable so more folks might get away with it.
Greetinx
.bob
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Robert M. Franz (RMF)
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> Be that as it may, the master and its related subs DO
> exist and will continue to exist. So, I am left with the
> original question which is editing the hyperlink. If it
> can't be edited, then it can't and I will simply have to
> recreate the master and establish new links in the
> subdocs' new location. But something instinctively tells
> me this should not be so. Recreating anything seems
> counter to the whole premise of word processing, n'est-ce
> pas?
of course, we all would be happy if the MD feature worked reliably!!
Fact is, documents do go havoc from time to time using Word (and
empirical evidence strongly suggests this happens more often when you
use the MD feature then when you don't ;-)), so sometimes there's not
really a good way around recreating some things anew.
As John points out in his article, he does indeed use the feature from
time to time, but only for creating a HTML-version of a given set of
files. Working with copies of them always, not keeping the MD-file
afterwards for any editing etc. Seems to work for him.
2cents
Anita
or no, but to answer the query can the hyperlink address
be changed? So is your reply "no" or "I don't know"?
And, yes, 32 MB IS a lot of text ... if you've ever worked
for a government agency you know that is our stock-and-
trade!
>..bob
>...Word-MVP
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>.
>
Robert M. Franz (RMF)
Anita wrote:
>
> This issue is not to debate the merits of Master documents
> or no, but to answer the query can the hyperlink address
> be changed? So is your reply "no" or "I don't know"?
AFAICT: no.
Which would bring us back to the "merits of Master documents or no" ...
Greetinx
.bob
Cindy Meister -WordMVP-
> but to answer the query can the hyperlink address
> be changed? So is your reply "no" or "I don't know"?
>
Steve Hudson once pointed out a way to make the connection
link to sub-documents "relative", rather than "absolute".
The path shown in the "hyperlink" will, however, always
appear "absolute".
Steve said, basically (I've lost the original text):
- start with your Master Doc, no sub-docs (so you might
want to recreate a new Master Doc from your template and
copy over any text held directly in the current Master doc)
- Use the button to add an external sub-doc. The dialog
looks like a File/Open dialog. Navigate to the folder (or,
you're already in the folder), then CLOSE the dialog box.
- Repeat the above, but this time choose the sub-doc file
and open (insert) it.
To test whether it worked, move the Master and sub-docs to
a different folder (keeping the same folder relationship -
i.e. everything in the same folder, or same sub-folders)
and see if the sub-docs can be displayed in the Master.
Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update
Jan 24 2003)
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