Need a small Bike
Michael Glover
I'm looking for someone to rent or loan me a small bike for the California
DMV skill test.I live in Santa Clara and I'm planning on taking my test 8/16
at San Jose,Alma DMV. I took the test the first time on my 2003 Harley
Davidson Heritage Softail Classic and my front tire came out of the cicrcle
one time and the guy failed me.I've been back there to practice and some
times I do ok but never perfect.If anyone can help please let me know.
Thanks
Mick
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Nicholas C. Weaver
Michael Glover <mrm...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hi,
>I'm looking for someone to rent or loan me a small bike for the California
>DMV skill test.I live in Santa Clara and I'm planning on taking my test 8/16
>at San Jose,Alma DMV. I took the test the first time on my 2003 Harley
>Davidson Heritage Softail Classic and my front tire came out of the cicrcle
>one time and the guy failed me.I've been back there to practice and some
>times I do ok but never perfect.If anyone can help please let me know.
Just take the MSF class. It waives the driving test requirement.
Also, if the Heritage is your first bike, it's a really bad choice for
your first ride. Please consider spending ~$2k on a couple year old
Ninja 250 and use that as your exclusive ride for a few months.
Afterwards, you should be able to sell it for nearly the cost you
bought it for, minus sales tax.
--
Nicholas C. Weaver nwe...@cs.berkeley.edu
John R Pierce
wrote:
>Hi,
>I'm looking for someone to rent or loan me a small bike for the California
>DMV skill test.I live in Santa Clara and I'm planning on taking my test 8/16
>at San Jose,Alma DMV. I took the test the first time on my 2003 Harley
>Davidson Heritage Softail Classic and my front tire came out of the cicrcle
>one time and the guy failed me.I've been back there to practice and some
>times I do ok but never perfect.If anyone can help please let me know.
take and pass the MSF Basic Rider Course, and you don't have to take the
DMV test.
John R Pierce
(Nicholas C. Weaver) wrote:
>>I'm looking for someone to rent or loan me a small bike for the California
>>DMV skill test.I live in Santa Clara and I'm planning on taking my test 8/16
>>at San Jose,Alma DMV. I took the test the first time on my 2003 Harley
>>Davidson Heritage Softail Classic and my front tire came out of the cicrcle
>>one time and the guy failed me.I've been back there to practice and some
>>times I do ok but never perfect.If anyone can help please let me know.
>
>Just take the MSF class. It waives the driving test requirement.
>
>Also, if the Heritage is your first bike, it's a really bad choice for
>your first ride. Please consider spending ~$2k on a couple year old
>Ninja 250 and use that as your exclusive ride for a few months.
>Afterwards, you should be able to sell it for nearly the cost you
>bought it for, minus sales tax.
but, gee (tongue in cheek) can't you hear the howls of derision from his
fellow harley-riding poseur-buddies when he shows up at the watering hole
on a ZX250? :D And the scowls when he passes their overweight pigs on
the inside of turns?
BushSt2
>Date: 8/10/2003 9:14 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <sv5ejv4rktprkn52i...@news.lmi.net>
there is less pressure in the class and the circle becomes easy.
John R Pierce
>>take and pass the MSF Basic Rider Course, and you don't have to take the
>>DMV test.
>>
>>
>yep. worked for me.
>there is less pressure in the class and the circle becomes easy.
and, further, you do it on their nice easy little Honda CB250's or
whatever. Heck, they even had some cute little 250cc 'cruiser' thingies.
barbz
Excellent advice! There was a guy on an IRC channel whose wife was
determined to buy a motorcycle, and he was asking for advice.
Everyone on the channel who rode mentioned the same things;
MSF, decent protective gear, smaller bike to start with. She was, sounds
to me, kind of a bitch about the last item, she wanted a hurkin' great
big Ninja. However, he prevailed, and she purchased a Ninja 250, went
through the course, bought boots, a decent helmet, and protective gear.
She decided to ride the thing home from the dealer, a two hour ride back
to NY. Getting off the freeway, she was going too fast and lost control,
dropping the bike. Thanks to her protective gear, she just wore some
holes in her leathers and had a few roadburger scabs. Thanks to the
bike's small size, she was able to pick it up and continue home; sadder,
wiser, and grateful that she'd taken our advice. ;)
Talked once with the owner of Monroe Motors about newbies riding home
with their new purchase. He told me a surprising percentage of them
don't make it all the way home.
It can take years to learn to be aware of the subtle nuances of riding
in traffic. However, it sure doesn't hurt to get a good start with the
basics and proper equipment!
barb
Jim Stinnett
"barbz" <bwa...@cox.net> wrote in message > Talked once with the owner of
Monroe Motors about newbies riding home
> with their new purchase. He told me a surprising percentage of them
> don't make it all the way home.
>
> It can take years to learn to be aware of the subtle nuances of riding
> in traffic. However, it sure doesn't hurt to get a good start with the
> basics and proper equipment!
That doesn't surprise me at all. It usually takes me about 6 months of
riding to get used to a particular bike. And I find there is a bit of
adjustment when I go from riding my NT650 to the VTR. Particularly with the
throttle. If I were as ham fisted with the VTR as I am with the NT , I would
definitlely not be able to keep my front wheel on the ground.
--
Jim Stinnett
VTR1000
NT650
Too much motorcycle information at http://moto-rama.com
Nicholas C. Weaver
Jim Stinnett <moto...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>That doesn't surprise me at all. It usually takes me about 6 months of
>riding to get used to a particular bike. And I find there is a bit of
>adjustment when I go from riding my NT650 to the VTR. Particularly with the
>throttle. If I were as ham fisted with the VTR as I am with the NT , I would
>definitlely not be able to keep my front wheel on the ground.
I find I can ajust alot faster, but there is a definate 6 month
time-window from when someone begins riding. And the statistics
really back that up.
Alan Moore
nwe...@ribbit.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver) wrote:
<snip>
>
>I find I can ajust alot faster, but there is a definate 6 month
>time-window from when someone begins riding. And the statistics
>really back that up.
Indeed they do. But be careful where you say it, or new riders will be
forbidden to ride for at least six months after receiving their
licenses -- for safety reasons!
Al Moore
DoD 734
Rich
<moto...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>"barbz" <bwa...@cox.net> wrote in message > Talked once with the owner of
>Monroe Motors about newbies riding home
>> with their new purchase. He told me a surprising percentage of them
>> don't make it all the way home.
>>
>> It can take years to learn to be aware of the subtle nuances of riding
>> in traffic. However, it sure doesn't hurt to get a good start with the
>> basics and proper equipment!
>
>That doesn't surprise me at all. It usually takes me about 6 months of
>riding to get used to a particular bike. And I find there is a bit of
>adjustment when I go from riding my NT650 to the VTR. Particularly with the
>throttle. If I were as ham fisted with the VTR as I am with the NT , I would
>definitlely not be able to keep my front wheel on the ground.
I think you're right about that, which suggests that the DMV ought to
do road testing differently if it's going to be effective. Since the
law essentially tests new drivers, and new drivers are least likely to
be familiar with their machines, standards have to be pretty low.
Mandatory retesting after say 1 year (which would be initial testing
for MSF grads) could enforce a level of skills that might offer a
reasonable chance of survival in traffic.
R, UB