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Miguel Robinett

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Nov 27, 2001, 12:40:01 AM11/27/01

Hi to everyone that has been having network trouble getting their older
Windows 95 - 98 - 98SE computers able to access a Windows XP (Home - Pro)
computers and having WinXP access the older windows computers shares and
having them all show up on your network, here is what all I did after three
days of working on my network as I have 4 Windows 98SE computers and now a
Windows XP Home computer on my network, this will also work with Windows XP
Pro as we setup one of these before I 1st posted this, and now since 1st
posting this paper on Nov 14, many other have had the same results.

This is for folks who have been having difficulty in setting up a home
network which has a mix of Windows9x and WindowsXP computers and have all of
the computers networked from a DSL/Cable modem to a hub/router then to their
computers .

This will set up your computers to work without the NetBEUI protocol which
Microsoft is now not supporting on Windows XP!!

I now have my 5 computers ( 4 Win98SE, 1 WinXP laptop ) now talking to each
other without NetBEUI !
This was a real concern of mine since my new Compaq 2700T doesn't come with
NetBEUI support and the its system recovery disks do not include NetBEUI
drivers as the a retail upgrade or full version as WinXP (Home / Pro) CD
does.

Two remark's must first be made:

1st : Do not run the network wizard on the XP machine, As that tries to
change the other computers' settings to conform to XP, which is not may not
be what you want.

2nd : Do NOT use the setup-disks WinXP recommends to use on the 98 computers
as it will mess them up more then you want. Even if it tells you to do it,
don't run Windows XP's Network Setup Wizard on the other networked
computers. You want to make the Windows XP computer conform to the existing
network. The Wizard wants to make the rest of the network conform to XP."
which messes things up worst that I have seen.

Now I will tell you how to setup your Windows 98SE - 98 - 95,

Right click on network neighborhood, when you have the network window up,
you should have listed as follows

Client for Microsoft Networks - left click on this and you will see a
general tab with logon validation, leave the box where it says Log on to
Windows NT Domain unchecked as if you click it will as you for a password to
logon to the NT Domain each time you start your computer there is info on
this here on This article describes how to cache your Microsoft Windows NT
domain password in Windows Millennium Edition (Me), Windows 98SE, Windows
98, and Windows 95

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q140/7/09.asp

In the box where it says Windows NT Domain put the name that you have named
your home network i.e. (homenet), on the bottom where it says Network logon
options it depend on how you like to set it up if you don't have any mapped
drives you can go with quick logon as your system will start quicker

Any Adapters that you might have i.e.
AOL
Dial-up Adapter
Network Adapter

On all the adapters above make sure you have all the bindings clicked on and
that sets up that part.

IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol -> Network Adapter - setup on the Netbios tab
click on I want to enable Netbios over IPX/SPX, when you do this it will add
Netbios support for IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol on the configuration tab of
the network window, next go to the advanced tab and check and see what you
have set for Maximum Connections set this to the number of total computer
that you have on your network i.e. 5, then look at the Network address and
see if its still set at 0, bindings click on all binds here

Netbios support for IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol - see info on this above in
IPX/SPX as it tell you how this gets added on.

TCP/IP -> Network adapter - click on tabs as follows

IP Address - if you want to obtain your IP address automatically click there
or enter your IP address if the computer has a one assigned to it

WINS Configuration - I have mine set for Disable WINS Resolution, but it
just depends on your ISP service

Gateway - If you have a Gateway you more then likely already have it entered
here

DNS Configuration - I have mine set for Enable DNS, in Host put what ever
you want to call this computer Domain Name is the Name of your ISP not your
network name.

DNS Server Search Order - If you ISP gave you Info on your DNS Servers enter
this info here or you can find it by doing winipcfg as it will show up there
if you had Disable DNS clicked on Before this when you click on more info
tab with your network adapter showing.

Bindings - unclick all the bindings as this makes your computer more secure
as per http://grc.com/ can tell you more on this issue, when you click to go
from this box to Advance you will get a window that pops up saying ( You
have not selected any drivers to bind with. Would you like to select one now
? ) Click on NO, on Advanced there is nothing to do here, the same with the
Netbios tab also, click on OK to finish setting up TCP/IP.

Primary Network Logon - On most of my computer I have this Set to Windows
Logon as it won't ask you to logon with a password like Client for Microsoft
Networks would if you have it set for that, and I have 2 set to Microsoft
Family Logon as they were setup for multi-users at one time,

File and Printer sharing for Microsoft Network - you should all know how to
use and set this part up by now

Identification tab on Network window - Computer name : what ever you decide
on calling this computer as you will see it on you network as.

Workgroup: what ever you want to call your Workgroup i.e. ( homenet ) make
sure that this is the same name that you put in when you did the step up in
Client for Microsoft Networks above.

Computer Description : how ever you want to describe your computer as it
will show up as this if you do view with details.

Access Control tab on Network window - I have this set for Share-level
access Control

Click on ok as we're done here in setting up this computer, you will get a
box saying ( You must restart your computer before new setting will take
effect. Do you want to restart your computer now ? ) click on yes and have
you system setup disk ready as it might ask you to put that in so it can
load any new or updated drivers.

All this above sets up your Windows 95 - 98 - 98SE computers

Next I will go into how to setup your Windows XP Computer,

Start -> Control Panel -> Network Connections, right click on Network
adapter connection

General tab - this connection uses the following item :

Client for Microsoft Network
File And Printer Sharing for Microsoft Network
QoS Packet Scheduler
NWlink Netbios

NWlink IPX/SPX/Netbios Compatible Transport Protocol, On this item check the
properties and make sure that the Internal Network Number is 0 or what
Network address you used when setting up you Windows 98SE - 98 - 95 computer
before.

Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) click on properties, if you want to obtain your
IP address automatically click there or enter your IP address if the
computer has a one assigned to it and the Gateway also,

Use the following DNS server addresses, put in the server address like
before above,

Click on Advanced now, if you put in a IP address you will see it now and
the default gateway, if you went with obtain an IP address automatically you
won't see anything here, if you have a default gateway that you like to use
you can add it so it uses the right gateway even tho you have it set for
getting the IP address automatically,

DNS Tab - shows the DNS Server Addresses that you enter earlier Click on
Append these DNS Suffixes (in order) then the Add Button and put you ISP
Domain name i.e. (home.net)

DNS Suffix for this connection put your ISP Name here (home.net)

Wins Tab

unclick Enable LMHOST lookup

Netbios Setting - Default

Options Tab - TCP/IP filtering -> Properties, unclick on Enable TCP/IP
Filtering (All Adapters)

that ends it for the TCP/IP

Authentication - leave as it was set up

Advanced tab - Internet Connection Firewall Click on this if you wish to you
the Windows XP Firewall, not the best firewall but better then nothing, as I
use www.zonelab.com Zonealarm on mine

next right click on My computer -> properties -> Computer Name

Computer description: how ever you want to describe your computer as it will
show up as this if you do view with details.

Full Computer Name: what you want to call this computer ie laptop, no
spaces in name.

Workgroup: make sure this is the same name that you called your network on
your other computers i.e. (homenet)

if you need to change this click on To rename this computer or to join a
Workgroup click change, then enter the right name in Computer name and
Workgroup,

Now hit ok and reboot and then you should have full access to all your
computers if not check to see that everything is setup right on any that you
don't have access to.

check each machine's network identification to make sure that there aren't
any blanks in the workgroup name. Make sure that it's just "homenet".

This will work without Internet access also as I have disconnected my
systems from the Internet to check this out already,

So good luck, I hope this work's for the rest of you that are still having
the same troubles that I had in getting my network setup again.

No tech support by way of email if you need more help reply to this posting,
so just print out all this msg follow it and you'll do ok, in getting your
network up and running also.Hi to everyone that has been having network
trouble getting their older Windows 95 - 98 - 98SE computers able to access
a Windows XP (Home - Pro) computers and having WinXP access the older
windows computers shares and having them all show up on your network, here
is what all I did after three days of working on my network as I have 4
Windows 98SE computers and now a Windows XP Home computer on my network,
this will also work with Windows XP Pro as we setup one of these before I
1st posted this, and now since 1st posting this paper on Nov 14, many other
have had the same results.