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'Tis the Season to be McFeely

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Dec 28, 2002, 10:50:31 AM12/28/02
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Not being in Region One, I don't have the Rhino box set of season one, but
I've heard about the tinkered animation and sound.

Well, for Christmas, I got the Maverick Region Two season one box set, and I
suspect that they've obtained and are using Rhino's 5.1 audio track on it.
The original Maverick release of the episodes, on three separate DVDs, did
not have 5.1 audio, but the episodes on the box set do, and upon finally
viewing some episodes today, I noticed what I can only describe as
additional "bangs" and "whizzes" in the theme music that were not on the
original volumes. Also, a sound that I'll describe as a "hissing crack"
frequently is heard when something explodes. Additionally, on the original
volumes, some episodes had an alternate opening sequence, comprised of
season two opening animation, and season three opening music. On the box
set, for all these episodes, the season three music is gone, replaced with
the season one music, complete with bangs and whizzes. If Maverick had
indeed obtained Rhino's 5.1 audio and replaced the entire episode's
soundtrack with it, then this explains why the music has changed.

So, what I'm asking is for someone to give me a couple of example of sounds
Rhino added to their season one set. One associated with singular, specific
actions would be nice, instead of universal things like "all the
explosions." I can compare to the Maverick version to see if they are indeed
using Rhino's audio.

Chris (thankfully, the Maverick version leaves the animation untinkered
with - the snow still falls DOWN...)


Zobovor

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Dec 29, 2002, 10:29:55 PM12/29/02
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Chris McFeely wrote:

>So, what I'm asking is for someone to give me a couple of example of
>sounds Rhino added to their season one set. One associated with
>singular, specific actions would be nice, instead of universal things like
>"all the explosions." I can compare to the Maverick version to see if
>they are indeed using Rhino's audio.

Rhino was fond of dubbing in the sound of the Borg cutting beam from Star Trek:
TNG; it appears prominently in "Changing Gears," during pretty much any
close-up of the Sun overloading. There are also new electical sounds in
"Attack of the Autobots" any time an attitude exchanger is used on one of the
evil Autobots. There are some new, high-pitched drilling sounds used in "The
Core" as the drill begins to make its way to the Earth's core. (It's also
worth noting that Rhino got rid of the camera movements used to simulate an
earthquake effect for about three minutes' worth of footage.) There are also
plenty of realistic jet engine sounds from the beginning of "Dinobot Island"
part 1 that weren't there in the original cut.


Zobovor, who has pages upon pages of notes for these sound effects, but will
likely never find time to type them all out...


Jamie Houston

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Dec 30, 2002, 1:09:25 PM12/30/02
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I just got Season One DVD for Christmas and I picked out that they had
lifted blaster sounds from the old TV show "Battlestar Galactica".

zob...@aol.com (Zobovor) wrote in message news:<20021229222955...@mb-fk.aol.com>...

Chris McFeely

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Dec 30, 2002, 3:32:29 PM12/30/02
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I knew that you would be the one with the answers, Zob, but, ah, I said
season ONE. ^^;

Chris


Zobovor

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Dec 30, 2002, 9:57:57 PM12/30/02
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Chris McFeely wrote:

>I knew that you would be the one with the answers, Zob, but, ah, I said
>season ONE. ^^;

Oops, sorry. I don't actually own the first-season set (and my studies of that
set have mainly focused on the animation anyway). I imagine Rhino used most of
the same sound library for the first set as the second, though.


Zobovor

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Dec 30, 2002, 10:00:23 PM12/30/02
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Jamie Houston wrote:

>I just got Season One DVD for Christmas and I picked out that they
>had lifted blaster sounds from the old TV show "Battlestar Galactica".

I don't remember the show well enough to know which specific sounds you're
talking about, but it wouldn't surprise me. Even before Rhino started
tampering with the episodes, the G1 show's sound library already had dozens of
archive sounds borrowed from other shows and movies (Star Trek, Star Wars,
Hanna-Barbera cartoons, you name it).

ma...@attcanada.ca

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Dec 31, 2002, 12:39:57 AM12/31/02
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Chris McFeely wrote:

> I knew that you would be the one with the answers, Zob, but, ah, I said
> season ONE. ^^;

Well, in any of the bumpers, any sound which is not the background music or
Victor Caroli's voice over would qualify as an added sound. From the
screeching tires when Jazz transforms, to the airplane-esque engine noises
when Laserbeak transforms and flies towards the screen.

Most of the added sounds tend to be louder and more noticeable than the
other sound effects in the episodes.

Zobovor

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Dec 31, 2002, 1:05:07 AM12/31/02
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ma...@attcanada.ca wrote:

>Well, in any of the bumpers, any sound which is not the background
>music or Victor Caroli's voice over would qualify as an added sound.
>From the screeching tires when Jazz transforms, to the airplane-esque
>engine noises when Laserbeak transforms and flies towards the
>screen.

Actually, on the DVD, all the bumpers from "Traitor" use the classic
transforming sound effect, so I'm guessing those might be the original sound
elements that Rhino claimed were always there.


Chris McFeely

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Dec 31, 2002, 1:10:18 PM12/31/02
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> Well, in any of the bumpers, any sound which is not the background music
or
> Victor Caroli's voice over would qualify as an added sound. From the
> screeching tires when Jazz transforms, to the airplane-esque engine noises
> when Laserbeak transforms and flies towards the screen.

I'd heard about this, but the problem is, the Maverick version doesn't
actually have the bumpers in the episodes. Actually, that's not a problem,
it's better that way. ^^; The bumpers are under special features, and don't
have any added noises.

> Most of the added sounds tend to be louder and more noticeable than the
> other sound effects in the episodes.

Well, there are definitely plenty of those in this version. I just need some
specifics...

Chris


Chris McFeely

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Dec 31, 2002, 1:11:01 PM12/31/02
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> Oops, sorry. I don't actually own the first-season set (and my studies of
that
> set have mainly focused on the animation anyway).

Ah well. I'm still fairly convinced of Rhino's involvement, anyway...

Chris


Coltrane's Lamentation

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Jan 12, 2003, 5:48:00 AM1/12/03
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"Chris McFeely" <ma...@troy49.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Like the gigantic asteroid *explosion* in the first episode?
-Coltrane


Chris McFeely

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Jan 16, 2003, 1:43:15 PM1/16/03
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> Like the gigantic asteroid *explosion* in the first episode?

I have to be honest, I didn't notice that. The "sizzles" added to the laser
blasts, the peculiar ping and whiz tossed in during the group transformation
in "Transport to Obilvion," and the noise added when Ironhide uses liquid
nitrogen on the wall in "Divide and Conquer" come to mind immediately as
things that stood out. Louder explosions, ehanced rocket and jet noises and
other stuff like that didn't jump out at me as much, because, in all
honesty, I think they sound fairly cool. /:)

Chris


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