It's official: Seth MacFarlane is a pussy...
CLOSEDOWN8
recently been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. On the upcoming "Family Guy"
DVD, the Osama bin Laden joke is cut from "Road to Rhode Island" at Seth
MacFarlane's request. As you probably know, MacFarlane barely missed Flight 11
on September 11, the first flight to crash into the World Trade Center. While
I despise the man and all of his "comedic" endeavors, I'm certainly grateful
that he didn't die, but what makes him a pussy is this: as a result of his
near-death experience, he's cut the joke from the DVD. It was apparantly fair
game to make fun of Osama bin Laden when Seth MacFarlane was far away from the
African Embassy bombings, when the tragic deaths that occured didn't effect
him, but when *he* nearly dies during the tragic events of September 11 he
realizes how unacceptable the joke is. This not only proves that MacFarlane is
the biggest pussy in the universe, it also proves that his acceptability
barometer is calibrated to his own inflated ego.
--------------------------------
"That's the worst reverse-acting I've ever seen!" -Sam Raimi
Help bring "Freaks and Geeks" to DVD at http://www.freaksandgeeks.com/dvd/
toyzboy
he's being hypocritical.
"CLOSEDOWN8" <close...@aol.commmbleek> wrote in message
news:20030322155056...@mb-fn.aol.com...
CAndersen (Kimba)
Heh. Is that what it means, now?
DevilsPGD
close...@aol.commmbleek (CLOSEDOWN8) did ramble:
>This not only proves that MacFarlane is
>the biggest pussy in the universe, it also proves that his acceptability
>barometer is calibrated to his own inflated ego.
Hate to say it, but I agree. It's a joke. A JOKE! It was hilarious
before 9/11, and it's still hilarious now.
--
A cheap shot is a terrible thing to waste.
Phil7101
recently been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. On the >upcoming "Family Guy"
DVD, the Osama bin Laden joke is cut from >"Road to Rhode Island" at Seth
MacFarlane's request. As you probably >know, MacFarlane barely missed Flight
11 on September 11, the first >flight to crash into the World Trade Center.
While I despise the man and >all of his "comedic" endeavors, I'm certainly
grateful that he didn't die
Now that's a really fascinating comment, coming from the same person who in
June 2001 posted a message in this newsgroup in which you stated you wanted to
kill Seth MacFarlane, in an allegedly "comedic" context:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=20010603234409.029
81.00002973%40ng-fd1.aol.com
Yet now apparently now you're grateful he didn't die? It seems that after
September 11 YOU realize how tasteless your "joke" is, and your "acceptability
barometer is calibrated to (your) own inflated ego". It was apparently fair
game to wish death on Seth MacFarlane before 9/11, but when *he* nearly dies
during the tragic events of September 11, you realize how unacceptable the joke
is. Biggest pussy in the universe? Take a look in the mirror. Congratulations
on adding "hypocrite" to your already outstanding resume of idiocy.
Phil7101
>he's being hypocritical.
While I do wish it was kept on the DVD, many people find absolutely any
reference whatsoever to bin Laden painful and just not funny, even if it's just
a cartoon. A joke not only about him, but him sneaking weapons through airport
security just cuts too close to the bone for a lot of people, post 9-11.
Look at it this way: suppose a relative of someone who died in 9-11 picks up
the DVD for some laughs? What do you think their reaction to that scene is
going to be. The show is about having a laugh, and I really don't think anybody
is going to be falling off their couch in stitches at that one, these days.
While I'd prefer it to be on the DVD, I fully understand why it won't be there.
CLOSEDOWN8
>September 11 YOU realize how tasteless your "joke" is, and your
>"acceptability
>barometer is calibrated to (your) own inflated ego".
I realize the joke was in poor taste and have stated numerous times on this
newsgroup that I shouldn't have written it but I've never once considered
begging google.com to remove it from it's archives. I said it, I can't change
that, and I'm not going to try.
CLOSEDOWN8
MacFarlane to explain the joke and apologize for it on a commentary track, or
to add a disclaimer, but he chooses to cover it up like a little bitch. He's
pretending it never happened, which is censorship, pure and simple, and it's
flat-out laughable when you're talking about someone who tried (in vain) so
desperately to craft edgy, no-holds-barred comedy (on network television, which
is a laughable endeavor) which sucked the life out of the comedy itself.
Anyways, I'll say it again: I made a comment I wish I hadn't made, but I'm not
denying that I made it, nor am I trying to cover up the fact that I made it.
Here's a link to the post in question. Feel free to take a look:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:closedown8+%2B%22time+machine%22+
%2BSeth&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=20010603234409.02981.00002973%40n
g-fd1.aol.com&rnum=1
In hindsight I should have written something like "WTD: 1 time machine so I can
travel back in time and put a box of Trojans on Seth MacFarlane's parents'
nightstand" but I didn't. Once again, that link is here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:closedown8+%2B%22time+machine%22+
%2BSeth&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=20010603234409.02981.00002973%40n
g-fd1.aol.com&rnum=1
CLOSEDOWN8
>the DVD for some laughs? What do you think their reaction to that scene is
>going to be.
What about the families of those who were killed in the Embassy bombings?
MacFarlane didn't give a shit about them at the time, yet Osama bin Laden was
just as responsible for their deaths as we was for those who died on September
11.
Byron Fogle
Hussein jokes and even did whole episodes around those characters and I bet
when the DVD's come out with those episodes nothing gets cut.
Shame Seth chose this route and pussied out I have lost a little respect for
him for that.
As a comic you should stand behind your material and freedom of expression
as an artist once you start editing yourself then others follow and your not
true to your art and considered a sell out.
"CLOSEDOWN8" <close...@aol.commmbleek> wrote in message
news:20030322155056...@mb-fn.aol.com...
DevilsPGD
phil...@aol.communique (Phil7101) did ramble:
What about the child that was killed in a similar way to some other
randomly selected scene.
Family Guy is funny, it attacks everybody and everything, and it's bound
to offend some people. Such is the way of things, life goes on. A
warning would have been more then sufficient.
Lets also look at comedians who, to this day, mock airport security. Is
this really any different? Is it Bin Laden's presence, or the mockery
of airport security that is the problem here?
Riclew
"Byron Fogle" <byro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ppadna0ueNI...@comcast.com...
Sweet Zombie Jesus
news:20030322155056...@mb-fn.aol.com...
> recently been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. On the upcoming "Family
Guy"
> DVD, the Osama bin Laden joke is cut from "Road to Rhode Island" at Seth
> MacFarlane's request. As you probably know, MacFarlane barely missed
Flight 11
> on September 11, the first flight to crash into the World Trade Center.
It's really too bad you weren't on that plane while suffering from nut
cancer.
--
-Greg
==============================================
"Hello floor!!! Make me a sammich!!!!"
-GIR, Invader Zim
==============================================
Sweet Zombie Jesus
> It should also be noted that it would have been perfectly acceptable for
> MacFarlane to explain the joke and apologize for it on a commentary track,
or
> to add a disclaimer, but he chooses to cover it up like a little bitch.
You have no proof that Seth had any say in the matter.......Fox edited the
scene out upon rerunning the episode on TV.
Bao H. Lammy
> While I've always believed that Seth MacFarlane is a pussy, my theory has
> recently been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. On the upcoming "Family Guy"
> DVD, the Osama bin Laden joke is cut from "Road to Rhode Island" at Seth
> MacFarlane's request.
Most likely, yes. (I don't own it yet.) But, how do you know?
For someone who hates Family Guy so much, you sure seem
to spend a lot of time thinking about it.
> As you probably know, MacFarlane barely missed Flight 11
> on September 11, the first flight to crash into the World Trade Center. While
> I despise the man and all of his "comedic" endeavors, I'm certainly grateful
> that he didn't die, but what makes him a pussy is this: as a result of his
> near-death experience, he's cut the joke from the DVD. It was apparantly fair
> game to make fun of Osama bin Laden when Seth MacFarlane was far away from the
> African Embassy bombings, when the tragic deaths that occured didn't effect
> him, but when *he* nearly dies during the tragic events of September 11 he
> realizes how unacceptable the joke is. This not only proves that MacFarlane is
> the biggest pussy in the universe, it also proves that his acceptability
> barometer is calibrated to his own inflated ego.
Where is the proof that Seth requested that the scene be cut
from the DVD? Or the reruns, for that matter?
DevilsPGD
<ric...@colc2k.fsnet.co.uk> did ramble:
>what was the bin laden joke and where did it slot in?
Stewie is singing a song to distract airport security as his stuff goes
through the x-ray and there are weapons clearly visible. Then he
comments "Let's hope Osama bin Laden doesn't know show tunes", and it
cuts to Osama singing to security guards.
DevilsPGD
>what was the bin laden joke and where did it slot in?
Ohh yeah, it's in "Road to Rhode Island" :)
Phil7101
>MacFarlane didn't give a shit about them at the time, yet Osama bin Laden was
>just as responsible for their deaths as we was for those who died on
>September
>11.
How exactly do you make the connection between the joke in that scene and the
Embassy bombings? The joke in question has, in hindsight, specific relevance to
9-11, but no specific relevance to Embassy bombings, so you can't claim that he
"didn't give a shit about them". It seems more likely that he DID give a shit
about them since he chose to insult bin Laden by portraying him as a buffoon.
By your logic, is nobody allowed to make fun of bin Laden whatsoever, for fear
of offending anyone? It's a much needed release for a lot of people to see this
hated figure made fun of, but the joke in question would now not exactly be
"fun" for a lot of people. There's a difference between just poking fun at a
figure like that and a specific joke which in retrospect is seen as in poor
taste, you're the self-appointed usenet governer of comedy after all, so you
should know this.
Riclew
Pussy assed Seth!!
Dammit, it happened people should just get over it I say!
That better be on the special edition DVDs of the 3rd series here in the UK,
the 1st series was totally uncut.... bastards!
"DevilsPGD" <yeah...@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
news:shjq7vk9ul7gbpn8p...@4ax.com...
CLOSEDOWN8
>Embassy bombings?
Well, in case you didn't know, Osama bin Laden was a terrorist long before
9/11/2001, and he was responsible for said bombings.
>The joke in question has, in hindsight, specific relevance to
>9-11, but no specific relevance to Embassy bombings, so you can't claim that
>he
>"didn't give a shit about them".
You're completely wrong here.
>It seems more likely that he DID give a shit
>about them since he chose to insult bin Laden by portraying him as a buffoon.
>By your logic, is nobody allowed to make fun of bin Laden whatsoever, for
>fear
>of offending anyone?
I'm not criticizing him for making the joke in the first place, I'm criticizing
him for releasing it and then trying to cover it up when he realized he had
offended himself without knowing it.
Marc Levy
"Bao H. Lammy" <BaoL...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v7qk7g7...@corp.supernews.com...
proof that he had anythign to do with it, im guessing he had nothing to do
with it at all
Warren Bloom
> DevilsPGD wrote:
>
>> Riclew did ramble:
>>
>>> what was the bin laden joke and where did it slot in?
>>
>> Stewie is singing a song to distract airport security as his stuff goes
>> through the x-ray and there are weapons clearly visible. Then he
>> comments "Let's hope Osama bin Laden doesn't know show tunes", and it
>> cuts to Osama singing to security guards.
>
> LMFAO!
>
> Pussy assed Seth!!
> Dammit, it happened people should just get over it I say!
> That better be on the special edition DVDs of the 3rd series here in the UK,
> the 1st series was totally uncut.... bastards!
That would be a _terrible_ shame if it was cut. I hope it wasn't Seth's decision.
BTW, to complete Devils's summary: Stewie sings "I'm a Little Teapot" as
his valise of weapons goes by on the X-ray monitor (a throwing star?
brilliant!), and binLaden sings "I Hope I Get It" from _A Chorus Line_ with
enthusiastic choreography.
-- wb
toyzboy
"Byron Fogle" <byro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ppadna0ueNI...@comcast.com...
toyzboy
Granted, bin Laden sneaking weapons onto a plane, is ironic as history
unfolded. Is it funny NOW, not really. Was it funny THEN, ....well, that's
a matter of opinion. But that's how the show was made, and so that's how I
feel it should stay.
"Phil7101" <phil...@aol.communique> wrote in message
news:20030322200630...@mb-cc.aol.com...
CAndersen (Kimba)
>Dude, please rethink your use of the word "gay".
heh heh... Yeah, I couldn't believe someone actually talks like Cartman.
Byron Fogle
"CAndersen (Kimba)" <Kimba...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:o51u7v86p6a6pit6c...@4ax.com...
Byron Fogle
"toyzboy" <STOPt...@digitalph.com> wrote in message
news:5svfa.85616$eb.25...@twister.austin.rr.com...
Bao H. Lammy
> I'm not criticizing him for making the joke in the first place, I'm criticizing
> him for releasing it and then trying to cover it up when he realized he had
> offended himself without knowing it.
...and you've yet to post any proof whatsoever to back up
this allegation. Still.
Kenneth Crudup
phil...@aol.communique (Phil7101) says:
>Look at it this way: suppose a relative of someone who died in 9-11 picks up
>the DVD for some laughs? What do you think their reaction to that scene is
>going to be?
I've had relatives die in car crashes; doesn't mean I don't laugh at
FAKE ONES in f*cking *cartoons* any less. Sheesh!
Some folks need to stop being so goddamn hypersensitive,
-Kenny
--
Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Los Angeles, CA
Home: 3801 E. Pacific Coast Hwy #9, Long Beach, CA 90804-2014 (562) 961-7300
Work: 2052 Alton Parkway, Irvine, CA 92606-4905 (949) 252-1111 X240
Richard Wagner -Dagwood-
pompousness think about it. If that happened to you ( as did Seth) might you
not count your blessings reflect and change your mind. If not go to hell you
dumb pussy!
DagW00d
"Tigers Older brother DAG"
UsualNoise
here's what Seth had to say in an interview with tvshowsondvd.com:
Interviewer: "I noticed "Road to Rhode Island"...there's some footage
missing; an Osama bin Laden joke was cut."
Seth: "There was some debate over that. I kinda stayed out of that
debate because I didn't really have a strong opinion one way or the
other. There are arguments for keeping it in and arguments for taking it
out. The argument to keep it in is that's how the show aired and it was
broadcast this way and it aired two years before September 11, and so
there's a bit of entertainment historical value there. And obviously the
argument for taking it out was that because it was one of the biggest
tragedies, there was some thought that it might bring down the rest of
the episode when that comes up. There was some thought at one point of
putting it on separately at the end, and that was really...I guess it
was a legal decision that Fox made to leave it out. It's unfortunate in
that it's a part of the episode that was produced and was aired and is
sort of gone forever, but it's a small loss in the grand scheme of
things."
--
UsualNoise
Kyle N. Smith
put in".
CLOSEDOWN8
>> debate because I didn't really have a strong opinion one way or the
>> other.
THAT is why he's officially a pussy.
Chuckie Griffin
event like 9/11, you've gotta be sensitive to the victims and their
families, so I can understand Seth's dillema here.
Chuck
CLOSEDOWN8
>event like 9/11, you've gotta be sensitive to the victims and their
>families, so I can understand Seth's dillema here.
But the episode aired long before 9/11, so acting like the sequence never
existed is revisionism, pure and simple, and that's just bullshit. There's
also the fact that the episode was still offensive to the familes of bin
Laden's victims prior to 9/11, it just didn't affect MacFarlane until *after*.
That's just pathetic.
Homer J. Simpson
> existed is revisionism, pure and simple, and that's just bullshit.
Heh. Let me introduce you to George Lucas. :-)
Richard Wagner -Dagwood-
Oliver Stone..
DagW00d
>But the episode aired long before 9/11, so acting like the sequence never
>> existed is revisionism, pure and simple, and that's just bullshit.
>
>Heh. Let me introduce you to George Lucas. :-)
>
"Tigers Older brother DAG"
Steve Grauman
Hey, Lucas choose to *add* scenes to the original Star Wars Trilogy. Not
everyong liked the new cuts, but at least they weren't missing anything they
had originally been shown with. Unlike Speilberg, who changed toy guns to
walkie talkies just prior to the DVD release of E.T.! 9/11 is a sensitive
subject, and we all need to be aware of what happened. But editing content from
a cartoon series that originally aired *before* the event is taking the PC
ethic a step to far. McFarlane includes Jew jokes in several of his episodes
(in fact, the season 3 DVDs should include a Jew related episode entitled "Once
Upon A Weinstein" that Fox wouldn't even air!). But I don't take offense to
them. I'm Jewish, BTW.
cianuro
SubDrag
that line, it would be air-able.
"Steve Grauman" <onea...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030521031410...@mb-m23.aol.com...