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wires968

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Jan 19, 2002, 12:43:59 PM1/19/02
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Hope someone can help me. I've got me a big Sony VEGA TV here in the UK
which I want to take with me to Australia. I currently only use it for
digital TV through a Sky box, and when I get to Oz, will only use it for
receiving digital TV as well. Is this going to work? I'm no techie, but I've
had a look at the DVB webiste, it appears to suggest that it should work,
but I've heard of problems where you can get a picture but no sound, or is
that just with terrestrial channels?
Any help much appreciated.

thanks
pt


CPJ_II

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Jan 19, 2002, 1:21:37 PM1/19/02
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Which model do you have?

Moving a TV from the UK to OZ might cost as much as buying a new one.

While both countries use the PAL broadcast standard, I read that in Oz
the electron beams scans right-to-left rather than left-to-right (or
possibly vice-versa).


C.

Aztech

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Jan 19, 2002, 2:11:37 PM1/19/02
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"CPJ_II" <charle...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
<snip>

I agree it may be better just to sell the set in the UK and buy a new one,
you don't have to worry about the PAL tuner since this TV has a digital DVB
tuner, it should work ok as long as the TV can decode 8K carriers opposed to
the 2K carriers used in the UK, the vast majority of boxes/TV's sold over
the last couple of years are able to handle both.

However, the aussies have Dolby Digital, UK TV's don't have a AC3 decoder so
you wont have sound, however they are meant to broadcast standard MP2 so you
will be alright, but obviously you wont have any surround sound.

The aussies also transmit HDTV in hierarchical mode, your set will only be
able to receive the high-priority SDTV broadcasts.

And lastly the UK uses a standard called MHEG for interactive services
whilst Oz uses the superior java based MHP standard, your TV wont be able to
receive any of that.

The Oz system is much better than what you'll find the UK, 8K encoding so
you wont have electrical impulse problems, Dolby Digital, HDTV and decent
MHP interactive services.

The UK DTV system was the first in the world, consequently is sucks ;)

Az.


wires968

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Jan 19, 2002, 2:45:54 PM1/19/02
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thanks guys for all your replies.

FYI, i have the KV-32FX60U, 100Hz flat screen. We only bought it a year ago,
so I guess it's a fairly recent model.
Also, as we are moving permanently to OZ, shipping costs are covered anyway,
so is it worth taking in the hope that it works?

thanks

pt
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CPJ_II

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Jan 19, 2002, 3:54:12 PM1/19/02
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wires968 wrote:
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> thanks guys for all your replies.
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> FYI, i have the KV-32FX60U, 100Hz flat screen. We only bought it a year ago,
> so I guess it's a fairly recent model.
> Also, as we are moving permanently to OZ, shipping costs are covered anyway,
> so is it worth taking in the hope that it works?

Sounds like an above-average set (only the higher-end PAL TVs have the
100Hz feature), but I suspect in the longer term, you'd upgrade in a few
more years anyway.

Sony Australia has just introduced a 34" direct-view/widescreen HDTV
which displays PAL at 100Hz and 1080i HDTV. No indication of NTSC,
though I'd assume it would also show this.

They also have a 36" 4x3 aspect-ratio unit which offers both PAL and
NTSC, DRC for both standards, component inputs and the vertical squeeze
for anamorphic DVDs.

If I ever moved to Oz, I'd buy at least one of these the moment I got
off the plane!

Charles

Robin Starch

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Jan 19, 2002, 4:35:32 PM1/19/02
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Will he also have to turn the scan coils upside down?


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JD

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Jan 19, 2002, 5:06:31 PM1/19/02
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"Robin Starch" <bigd...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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No, but he'll have to stand the TV on edge (at 45 degrees) :-).

John

JD

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Jan 19, 2002, 5:08:05 PM1/19/02
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"Robin Starch" <bigd...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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One more thing: the sense of the on/off switches change... Anyone see
the Simpson's episode about the trouble that Bart caused in Aus? The
American style commode (WC/Toilet, depending upon where you live) was
a 'hoot'.

John

Robin Starch

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Jan 19, 2002, 5:16:25 PM1/19/02
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"Aztech" <a...@tech.com> wrote in message
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Sounds almost like the mistakes [because of the early adoption] of 405 and
NTSC all over again.
However compared to satellite, the terrestrial digital market in the UK is
still relatively small, but the recent announcement of an inexpensive
digital converter, and maybe soon to be followed by cheap digital TV's may
well vastly increase the take up of DTT.
Therefore do you think that it's now too late to bite the bullet.. or is it
possible that a little bit of pain now, might save a great deal of pain
later?


> Az.
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Rich Buggy

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Jan 19, 2002, 6:05:52 PM1/19/02
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> Moving a TV from the UK to OZ might cost as much as buying a new one.

For sony expect to pay $A2,500 - $4,5000 depending on the model you want.
Divide by 3 to turn it in to that wierd UK currency I don't have a symbol
for :)

Rich


Rich Buggy

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Jan 19, 2002, 6:17:30 PM1/19/02
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And my response to the answers I've read so far.... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ha ha

There's a reason why the market down here isn't flooded with receivers from
the UK and that we still don't have DVB tuner cards for PC's.... the DVB
system are not compatible. If your TV has regular PAL inputs you've got a
hope in hell but you'll need to buy a STB when you arrive ($A500 to $A900).

Go read aus.tv.digital if you want to hear about all of the problems we are
having with digital TV (in particular channel 7). Once these are sorted out
I'm sure digital will be great but until then I'm glad I've still got
analog.

R.


wires968

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Jan 19, 2002, 7:40:04 PM1/19/02
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Thanks everyone who responded, I think the message is to offload the set
before I go, and buy an all-singing all-dancing one when I get there. Like I
needed a good excuse!

thanks again, Oz here I come.

pt


Richard

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Jan 30, 2002, 3:54:16 PM1/30/02
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One last point; parts. Don't expect Sony to stock boards and IC's that you
may need to keep that little sucker running. Your decision to sell it is the
right one.

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