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Reha

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Oct 6, 2001, 3:28:26 AM10/6/01
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Hi,

due my video card is quite old, I have to buy a new one for the p4t-e. I
decided to purchase a V7700, which has good values and is affordable. Now
the Mobo manual states that only 1.5V AGP cards are supported and the asus
website tells me about the V7700, that AGPbus VDDQ Voltage and AGP Bus 3.3
Voltage should be supplied steadily by the motherboard, otherwise, the
system will crash.
Due to the fact that the Video Card is a quite recent product, I doubt that
there are any issues with this combination, but please tell me if I'm
mistaken.

Regards, Reha


QZ

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Oct 6, 2001, 4:40:25 PM10/6/01
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I checked the V7700 Geforce 2 GTS on their site and I don't see it
mentioning needing 3.3v, if it did, it wouldn't work. I think it does work,
however, but I am waiting for the answer also. All I see is 2x/4x. I think
4x means it has to be 1.5v, but nobody confirms this. How can we buy a card
if they don't put '1.5v' in the specs or tell us the 4x makes it 1.5v. The
manual does say V3800 (I think, I can't get to it now) and newer works, so I
assume V7700 works. I think you can also compare the notches on the card to
the picture shown in the manual. I am sure users of the P4T can answer
because, AFAIK, it has the same video card requirement.

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scheidegger

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Oct 6, 2001, 5:38:27 PM10/6/01
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yes, 4x indeed means the card has to support the 1.5V signalling voltage
(you can read the agp specification available at developer.intel.com).
But....
there seem to be some cards out which claim to support agp 4x and, even
worse, are keyed for 1.5V operation yet operate at 3.3V only - according
to http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jow-05.10.01-000/
Cards which are wrongly keyed seem to be some (but not all) tnt2 cards,
notably the Diamond Viper V770, Revision A and the Leadtek WinFast 3D
S320 II, Revision A and a lot of SIS305 based cards. If you put these
cards in a i845/i850 board, there's a good chance it will get
permanently damaged.
All other cards which only support 3.3V signaling just won't fit.

AFAIK, cards which will not work on those 1.5V agp only chipsets:
Matrox G200
All Nvidia TNT based cards
ATI Rage Fury/Magnum
All ATI Rage xpert xxxx cards
3dfx Voodoo3/Voodoo5
S3 Savage 4 based cards

cards which should work:
Most TNT2 cards
All Nvidia GeForce/GeForce2/GeForce3 (in all variants) cards
All ATI Radeon based cards
ATI Rage Fury Pro
Kyro I/II based cards (some have no agp4x support,but still support 1.5V
3dfx Voodoo4 4500
Matrox G400/G450/G550

no guarantee of correctness...
and of course there are other cards.
rule of thumb: older cards won't work, newer ones will ;-))

Roland

Reha

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Oct 7, 2001, 2:29:19 AM10/7/01
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Hi,

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> I checked the V7700 Geforce 2 GTS on their site and I don't see it
> mentioning needing 3.3v, if it did, it wouldn't work.

http://www.asus.com/Products/Addon/Vga/agpv7700/package.html

Regards, Reha


QZ

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Oct 7, 2001, 2:53:51 PM10/7/01
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The link isn't working for me.

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> http://www.asus.com/Products/Addon/Vga/agpv7700/package.html

QZ

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Oct 7, 2001, 3:07:59 PM10/7/01
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I am not going to play games on PC, anymore, so I have decided that I should
go w/ an ATI Radeon 7500 or Matrox G550.
Do you know when each one was released? I think it was very recent.
Is there any way of getting info. to be 100% positive on this? It sounds
like if I can find '1.5v' in the specs that would be it?

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Roland Scheidegger

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Oct 7, 2001, 4:34:09 PM10/7/01
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QZ wrote:

> I am not going to play games on PC, anymore, so I have decided that I should
> go w/ an ATI Radeon 7500 or Matrox G550.
> Do you know when each one was released? I think it was very recent.

Don't know the date, but I think the Radeon 7500 has not even reached
the shelves...


> Is there any way of getting info. to be 100% positive on this? It sounds
> like if I can find '1.5v' in the specs that would be it?

Yes - unfortunately I have never found this in the specs. But you might
find something like "AGP 2.0" in the specs, this would be as good.
But you don't have to worry, anything newer than a GeForce 1 should work
- and both the cards you mentioned are FAR newer.
(you can also look at a picture of the card - if it has one hole in the
agp connector, it does not support 1.5V operation, if it has two it does
(if the card is correctly keyed). As an example compare the images of
the ati rage fury
http://www.ati.com/na/pages/products/pc/rage_fury/index.html with that
of the rage fury pro
http://www.ati.com/na/pages/products/pc/fury_pro/index.html).

Roland

Paul D. J. Vandenberg

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Oct 7, 2001, 5:01:05 PM10/7/01
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The ASUS V7700 is working just fine in my P4T -- should be ok in your
P4T-E -- just don't remove the guard on the AGP slot.

Reha wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> due my video card is quite old, I have to buy a new one for the p4t-e.
> I decided to purchase a V7700, which has good values and is affordable.

[snip]

QZ

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Oct 8, 2001, 3:18:40 PM10/8/01
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Yes, a number of sites have 7500, but not nearly everybody, so I can see it
just came out. The G550 is almost everywhere, but I think it is very new
also.
Thanks for all the info.

"Roland Scheidegger" <rschei...@gmx.ch> wrote in message
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> QZ wrote:
> > I am not going to play games on PC, anymore, so I have decided that I
should
> > go w/ an ATI Radeon 7500 or Matrox G550.
> > Do you know when each one was released? I think it was very recent.
>
> Don't know the date, but I think the Radeon 7500 has not even reached
> the shelves...

-snip-


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