Presidential Candidate Reviews
Kris Overstreet
Remember when I tossed off those numbers about the 100+ Presidential
candidates nobody hears about?
I figured I'd do everyone a public service and go through
politics1.com and rank them to sort out the serious candidates from
the flakes.
Here's the scale:
C - Career Politician, or crook if you prefer. Someone currently
holding major political office who seeks promotion, or George W. Bush.
May have principles and issues, but IMHO all evidence would point to
the contrary. This category includes Bush and most of the nine
media-acknowledged Democrat candidates.
S - Serious Challenger. Someone who has serious issues that should be
addressed.
F - Semi-flake. Someone who has serious issues that should be
addressed, but spoils it because of at least one sign of being a
flake.
FF - Definite flake. Someone who is running, generally speaking, on a
platform only an insane person would consider credible.
A list of things which I consider signs of flakiness (or, as my
generation would say, flakitude):
* Conspiracy theory
* Theocracy
* Coughlin-originated anti-Semitism (cf. references to the Secret
Masters of Zion)
* Peculiar legal theories (see Irwin Schiff)
* Repeated attempts for the same office without serious effort towards
campaigning
* Switching parties
* Basing campaign on attacks against Bush, party leadership, etc. with
no other substance
* Fundamental ignorance or misunderstanding of how the elective
process works
* Lack of material publicizing campaign & positions, or incoherent
material
Political proposals themselves are -not- generally considered
flake-worthy; there will be people here with radical positions which
are not listed as flakes, or only as semi-flakes. Exception:
candidates who run on a one-solution-fixes-all basis are counted as
flaky.
That said, here's my list.
REPUBLICAN PARTY
George W. Bush - C
Blake Ashby - S
Albertha Moultrie Brinson - FF
John Buchanan - FF
Mrs. Edie Bukewihge - FF
F. Dean Christensen - FF
Carten Cordell - F
Thomas S. Fabish - FF
Lowell J. "Jack" Fellure - FF
Hoover Mark Gee - F
Bruce A. Gidner - F
George Costigan - FF
Robert E. "Bob" Haines - FF
Mark "Dick" Harnes - F
Mike Idrogo - FF
Derrick C. Johnson - F
Tom "Billy Jack" Laughlin - F
Louis J. "Louie" Rapuano, Jr. - FF
Donald J. "Don" Reaux - S
John Donald Rigazio - F
Keith H. Slinker - F
William J. "Bill" Wyatt - S
DEMOCRATIC PARTY
Carol Moseley Brown - F
Wesley Clark - C
Howard Dean - C
John Edwards - C
Dick Gephardt - C
John Kerry - C
Dennis Kucinich - C
Joe Lieberman - C
Al Sharpton - FF
Warren R. Ashe - FF
Donald P. Award - F
Robert J. Ayers - F
Katherine Bateman - F
Jerry G. Beck - S
Sanderson Beck - S
James K. "Jim" Bollinger - FF
Harry W. Braun III - F
Willie Felix Carter - FF
Patrick Cazneau - S
Randolph W. "Randy" Crow - FF
Gerry Dokka - S
John Estrada - S
Susan Fey - F
Albert "Al" Hamburg - FF
Vincent S. Hamm - F
Amanda Lou Hardy - F
Ken Hill - S
Alfonzo Jones - F
Caroline P. Killeen - F
Lyndon (FF) H. (FF) Larouche (FF) - FF (Jr.) (FF)
Glenn D. Leaverton - F
R. Randy Lee - S
Sherry A. Meadows - F
Grady Dean Mollenhour Jr. - F
Frederick E. "Fred" Ogin - FF
William "Bill" Pearman - S
Fern Penna - S
James J. Prattas - FF
Adam Safran - S
Oloveuse S. "Ole" Savior - FF
Craig E. Sharp - F
Leonard D. "Denny" Talbow - F
Jim Taylor (of runsomeidiot.com) - FF
Evelyn Louise Vitullo - S
Lucian J. "Louie" Wojciechowski - F
AMERICA'S PARTY
Joseph K. "Joe" Bellis III - FF
CHRISTIAN FALANGIST PARTY
Kurt Weber-Heller - F
CONSTITUTION PARTY
Michael A. "Mike" Peroutka - S
E-DEMOCRATIC PARTY
Muadin - F
FAMILY VALUES PARTY
Thomas "Tom" Wells - FF
GREEN PARTY
David K. Cobb - S
Brian Czech - F
Paul Glover - S
Cynthia McKinney - C
Kent P. Mesplay - F
Carol Miller - S
Ralph Nader - S
Christina "Chris" Rosetti - FF
Lorna Salzman - S
LIBERTARIAN PARTY
Michael Badnarik - S
Jeffrey Diket - FF
David L. "Dave" Hollist - FF
Gary Nolan - S
Nazirite Ruben Flores Perez - F
THE LIGHT PARTY
Da Vid - FF
PARTY X
Darren E. Karr - S
PROHIBITION PARTY
Earl F. Dodge - F
PROVIDENTIAL PARTY
Sterling D. Allan - FF
REFORM PARTY
Ted C. Weill - S
SOCIALIST PARTY
Walter F. "Walt" Brown - S
SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY
Martin Koppel - FF
INDEPENDENTS
Kenneth M. Bonnell - F
Henri Calitri - FF
Fred Cook - F
Eric J. Davis - F
Robert DiGiulio - F
Bob Dorn - FF
Lonnie D. Frank - F
John Galt, Jr. - F
Jack Grimes - FF
Michael "Mike" Halpin - F
Larry D. Hines - F
Georgia Hough - S
Keith R. Judd - F
Samuel Keegan - F
Joseph "Joe" Martyniuk, Jr. - F
David Mevis - S
Andisheh "Andy" Nouraee - FF
Jeffrey B. Peters - F
Andrew M. Rotramel - FF
Aaron Russo - S
Joe C. "Average Joe" Schriner - S
Dan Snow - F
Brian B. Springield - F
Lemuel Tucker - F
James W. "Jim" Wright - FF
So, counting Bush and the Democratic Nine (two of whom I consider at
least partly flaky), I count nearly forty candidates who are worthy of
attention in any campaign based on facts and viewpoints- that is, they
understand how to run and are making a legitimate effort to get
elected, they have some connection to reality, and they would,
presumably, be capable of fulfilling the office of President.
This doesn't mean that I agree with them, of course; I personally am
for the Libertarian nominee (who will likely be Gary Nolan or Michael
Badnarik) or, barring them, Aaron Russo. Some of the people I've
marked as serious candidates have platforms I consider reprehensible,
irresponsible, or disastrous... but they are positions which deserve
attention and discussion.
Unfortunately, not only does the system not allow them equal
opportunity, the reforms which have been made are specificially
designed to -deny- them equal opportunity. Oh well.
Redneck
Prophet
> Remember when I tossed off those numbers about the 100+ Presidential
> candidates nobody hears about?
>
> I figured I'd do everyone a public service and go through
> politics1.com and rank them to sort out the serious candidates from
> the flakes.
>
Thank you.
> Here's the scale:
>
> C - Career Politician, or crook if you prefer. Someone currently
> holding major political office who seeks promotion, or George W. Bush.
> May have principles and issues, but IMHO all evidence would point to
> the contrary. This category includes Bush and most of the nine
> media-acknowledged Democrat candidates.
>
> S - Serious Challenger. Someone who has serious issues that should be
> addressed.
>
> F - Semi-flake. Someone who has serious issues that should be
> addressed, but spoils it because of at least one sign of being a
> flake.
>
> FF - Definite flake. Someone who is running, generally speaking, on a
> platform only an insane person would consider credible.
>
> REPUBLICAN PARTY
>
> John Donald Rigazio - F
Ah, one of ours. I work with his ex-wife. Perennial candidate,
I've never known why.
> DEMOCRATIC PARTY
>
> Lyndon (FF) H. (FF) Larouche (FF) - FF (Jr.) (FF)
Another New Hampshire boy, though we hate to admit it.
> LIBERTARIAN PARTY
>
I'm expecting more candidates from this party around here next time
around.
Marc C Allain http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mca
Native American Cultural Association. http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mca/naca.html
Mein Gedanken Sind Frei!
Sagittaria
news:hp81uv43tl3adsptm...@4ax.com:
>
> Remember when I tossed off those numbers about the 100+
> Presidential candidates nobody hears about?
>
> I figured I'd do everyone a public service and go through
> politics1.com and rank them to sort out the serious candidates
> from the flakes.
Fascinating reading. But you don't think the constitution party is after
a theocracy? http://www.constitutionparty.com
--
---->Sagittaria<----
Okay, okay! I take it back. Unfuck you.
David Cox
"Kris Overstreet" <red...@wlpcomics.com> wrote in message
news:hp81uv43tl3adsptm...@4ax.com...
>
<some snippage occurs through out>
> Here's the scale:
>
> FF - Definite flake. Someone who is running, generally speaking, on a
> platform only an insane person would consider credible.
>
Why do I get the impression that you might consider Lyndon to be a bit of a
flake? ;)
Dave
Kris Overstreet
<sagit...@softhome.net> wrote:
>Fascinating reading. But you don't think the constitution party is after
>a theocracy? http://www.constitutionparty.com
Indeed I do, but the majority of them do not say, for instance, that
God appeared in their morning Cheerios and told them to run or else
the world would come to an end.
They also have a large number of issues which need to be given
audience- not because I agree with them, but because they are
important and eminently debatable.
I'd be a LOT happier about the Constitution Party if they didn't have
a platform that stops about a half-inch short of calling for a
Christian Taliban in America.
Redneck
Kris Overstreet
wrote:
>> John Donald Rigazio - F
>
> Ah, one of ours. I work with his ex-wife. Perennial candidate,
>I've never known why.
Rated semi-flake because of his repeated party jumping and because
he's not running to win- only to pull 10% of the New Hampshire primary
vote.
>> LIBERTARIAN PARTY
>>
> I'm expecting more candidates from this party around here next time
>around.
Presidential candidates, or in general?
Incidentally, I'm personally opposed to the Free State Project for the
same reason my great-great-great-grandparents were opposed to
carpetbaggers.
Redneck
ralph gibbons
> Mein Gedanken Sind Frei!
Das bezweifele ich. Jedenfalls sollt deine Grammatik verbessert werden.
Wesley Struebing
wrote:
No! Could it be!?
(good thing Lar "America First" Daley has gone to his reward beyond
the veil, or he'd give La(FF)Rouche(FF) a run for his money...<G>
though he mostly ran against the Daleys in Chcago...)
Who was that guy from Minnesota, I believe who ran for president every
election? I seem to remember him - except his name - for something
like almost 40 years...) Ahh! Just found it (google is wonderful!)
Harold Stassen!
Prophet
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:32:09 -0500, Prophet <m...@cisunix.unh.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >> LIBERTARIAN PARTY
> >>
> > I'm expecting more candidates from this party around here next time
> >around.
>
> Presidential candidates, or in general?
>
Both, but they really need to get local party support before any
of the rest of their programs can get rolling. And they need to
build a power base before any presidential candidates will get the
attention needed to be serious contenders.
Look at Nader - a household name but his power base is too shaky
for him to be a serious contender for the title. Pragmatic
environmentalists are voting for mainstream candidates with good
environmental records.
> Incidentally, I'm personally opposed to the Free State Project for the
> same reason my great-great-great-grandparents were opposed to
> carpetbaggers.
>
Oh, I expect they'll pretty much just blend in. I'll admit, the
concept of "moving in and taking over" (yeah, I know that's not the
agenda,) makes me queasy, but in the end, they're coming here because
we're already halfway libertarians just without the name. And I
like the idea of a strong third party because two party politics isn't
working any more.
Prophet
Um. If you say so. I'm just quoting and don't know a dozen words of
German and less grammar. Translation please.
Kris Overstreet
wrote:
> And I
>like the idea of a strong third party because two party politics isn't
>working any more.
That would probably be because there's no significant difference
between the Demopublicans and the Republicrats anymore. }:-{D
(If there ever was.)
Redneck
Prophet
Weeelllll, yes and no. There may effectively be little real
difference between the two parties, but I was referring to the
way they have taken to spending more and more time, energy and
rhetoric just on spoiling and blocking each other rather than,
say doing the actual work we elected them for - running the
country and so forth. Having any one party with a clear majority
seems like a bad idea since only the marginal issues can then
be decided on their own merits rather than party politic.
lensman1955
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, ralph gibbons wrote:
>
> > Prophet <m...@cisunix.unh.edu> wrote in message news:<Pine.OSF.4.58.031...@hypatia.unh.edu>...
> >
> > > Mein Gedanken Sind Frei!
> >
> > Das bezweifele ich. Jedenfalls sollt deine Grammatik verbessert werden.
> >
> Um. If you say so. I'm just quoting and don't know a dozen words of
> German and less grammar. Translation please.
Well, according to the free translator I found on the web, it says this;
"I doubt that. In any case your grammar is supposed to be improved."