Hi-viz paint - disappointing results...

Richard Lamb

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Oct 27, 2002, 3:25:00 AM10/27/02

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After all the hot air about high visibility paint, I decided
to test some of the principles presented.

So for a serious test, I painted my cleco pliars bright yellow.

Very little re-training was required for the operator.
In fact, it did seem that they were easier to locate -
when looking where they were last left.

But it doesn't seem to help much when looking where they last
were, but someone moved them.

What do you think? International orange stripes?

David Pincus

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Oct 27, 2002, 3:38:11 AM10/27/02

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No, what you need is one of those beepers you put on your keychain to
find your keys when you've misplaced them. You know, the kind where you
go get a small transmitter like the TV remote control and you click that
and your keychain beeps? Go attach one of those to you easy-to-misplace
yellow cleco pliars.

And then be REAL CAREFUL not to misplace the transmitter!

'Pastor' Dave

jerry rausch

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Oct 27, 2002, 7:36:44 AM10/27/02

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Sound more like a string of the children's mitten variety is needed.

RobertR237

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Oct 27, 2002, 10:58:03 AM10/27/02

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In article <3DBBB022...@flash.net>, Richard Lamb <lam...@flash.net>
writes:

Naw, it wouldn't help. They always hide under something else without color
anyway. I am convinced that all my tools are related to cockroaches and
everytime I lay one down it crawls off into a dark hidden corner.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Ernest Christley

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Oct 27, 2002, 12:40:31 PM10/27/02

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David Pincus wrote:

>
> No, what you need is one of those beepers you put on your keychain to
> find your keys when you've misplaced them. You know, the kind where you
> go get a small transmitter like the TV remote control and you click that
> and your keychain beeps? Go attach one of those to you easy-to-misplace
> yellow cleco pliars.
>
> And then be REAL CAREFUL not to misplace the transmitter!
>
> 'Pastor' Dave

That doesn't work. I tried doing that to all my tools, but then I hit
the transmitter and the whole shop sounds like the RAH newsgroup threads
(just a lot of noise 8*)

Ben Haas

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Oct 27, 2002, 10:28:55 PM10/27/02

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Richard Lamb <lam...@flash.net> wrote in message news:<3DBBB022...@flash.net>...

I just got through painting my 801 Zenith with Imron the same colors
as a Tide soap bottle. The paint supplier would not do it at first
because that shade is a NASCAR registered color so we made it one
shade lighter. It is a couple of months from flying but I did roll it
out into the sunshine and you cannot stare at it for very long. Ray
Charles and Stevie Wonder can see this thing from 100 miles away.
There will be no midairs for me !!!!!

Marcus

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Oct 27, 2002, 10:33:10 PM10/27/02

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Richard Lamb wrote ...

Wig-wags could help.

Barnyard BOb --

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Oct 28, 2002, 1:17:06 AM10/28/02

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(Ben Haas) wrote:

>Charles and Stevie Wonder can see this thing from 100 miles away.
>There will be no midairs for me !!!!!

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You ass-u-me waaay too much.

Barnayrd BOb

David Pincus

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Oct 28, 2002, 4:11:57 AM10/28/02

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> > Richard Lamb <lam...@flash.net> writes:
> >
> > What do you think? International orange stripes?

> Ben Haas wrote:
>
> I just got through painting my 801 Zenith with Imron the same colors
> as a Tide soap bottle. The paint supplier would not do it at first
> because that shade is a NASCAR registered color so we made it one
> shade lighter. It is a couple of months from flying but I did roll it
> out into the sunshine and you cannot stare at it for very long. Ray
> Charles and Stevie Wonder can see this thing from 100 miles away.
> There will be no midairs for me !!!!!

That's what Capt. Smith of the Titanic must have thought after 40 years
at sea with nary an accident. Don't tempt The Fates like that.

'Pastor' Dave

Dennis O'Connor

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Oct 28, 2002, 10:48:06 AM10/28/02

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Why, fer gawds sake, did you let some pusillanimous puke at a paint store
convince you that someone can OWN a color?
Anyway, I look forward to a picture of your flying Tide box...

Denny

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Model Flyer

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Oct 30, 2002, 7:20:52 PM10/30/02

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RobertR237 <rober...@aol.composit> wrote in message
news:20021027105803...@mb-fz.aol.com...

> In article <3DBBB022...@flash.net>, Richard Lamb <lam...@flash.net>

> >What do you think? International orange stripes?

> >
> >
>
> Naw, it wouldn't help. They always hide under something else without
color
> anyway. I am convinced that all my tools are related to cockroaches and
> everytime I lay one down it crawls off into a dark hidden corner.
>

I used to work at one time you know, my boss used to complain that all the
tools has had on the shop rack had gone missing. I found them all half
buried in the mud outside the door or the other side of the yard. Tools seem
to grow legs and go walkabout when your not looking.
--
.
---
Cheers
Jonathan Lowe,
Model Flyer
printe...@eircom.net

>
> Bob Reed
> www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
>
> "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
> pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
> (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)
>

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Model Flyer

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Oct 30, 2002, 7:23:47 PM10/30/02

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David Pincus <dbpi...@DELETEattbi.com> wrote in message
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> > > Richard Lamb <lam...@flash.net> writes:
> > >

> That's what Capt. Smith of the Titanic must have thought after 40 years
> at sea with nary an accident. Don't tempt The Fates like that.

Untrue, Capt. Smith had just collided with a battleship of the Royal Navy in
his previous cammand. From what I read he appeared to be a bit of a tearaway
for the times.

--
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---
Cheers
Jonathan Lowe,
Model Flyer
printe...@eircom.net

>
> 'Pastor' Dave

RobertR237

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Oct 31, 2002, 10:06:14 PM10/31/02

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In article <UJ9w9.25548$zX3....@news.indigo.ie>, "Model Flyer"
<printe...@JUNK.eircom.net> writes:

>
>I used to work at one time you know, my boss used to complain that all the
>tools has had on the shop rack had gone missing. I found them all half
>buried in the mud outside the door or the other side of the yard. Tools seem
>to grow legs and go walkabout when your not looking.
>--
>.
>---
>Cheers
>Jonathan Lowe,
>

But only the tools you want. The others like lawn mower, hedge trimmers, and
honey do tools are always right under foot.

Ben Haas

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Oct 31, 2002, 10:23:38 PM10/31/02

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Barnyard BOb -- <barn...@nospin.you> wrote in message news:<adlpruc1g04rfsnvm...@4ax.com>...

Hey BOb, Since you are so smart about everything. Tell us all
something...... Whats the correct spelling of you OWN name???????? I
hope you fly better then you SPELL !!!!!!! Also, how many hours did it
take you to build you RV-3 ????

Barnyard BOb --

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Nov 1, 2002, 10:09:49 AM11/1/02

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How may hours can you brag of miracle performance from a Ford
conversion engine that you have engineered only in your mind?

Quit being a loser, Haas Ben.
Your super petty sniping at my heels makes you look pathetic.
If you want to measure up to me....
Get yourself 50 years of accident free flying with 10 of it crop
dusting and another bunch of it IFR totaling nearly 9000 hours.
When you do, gimme a shout. Until then, you're just another
wannabe beating on his chest shouting....
HEY EVERYBODY, LOOK AT ME!!!!

As to my building, I have an RV-3 project in the garage that I may
never finish since I'm very busy flying and maintaining N863WL.
On Ron Wanttaja's website you can see my Fly Baby
of the mid 60's... built possibly before you were born.
http://www.wanttaja.com/flybaby
Click on PICTURES
Then click on General Album - It's the first one in the group, N4610G

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Nov 2, 2002, 1:58:19 AM11/2/02

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Darn Ben;
There I go again..
STILL can't even spell my own handle!

Del Rawlins

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Nov 2, 2002, 3:33:13 AM11/2/02

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On 01 Nov 2002 09:42 PM, Barnyard BOb -- posted the following:

> Would you believe.....
> I have no pilot's license, no ratings,
> and don't even have a dog?

Yeah, I'd have run off, too.

8^)

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Ben Haas

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Nov 3, 2002, 11:29:35 PM11/3/02

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"Dennis O'Connor" <doco...@chartermi.net> wrote in message news:<urqn1lj...@corp.supernews.com>...

Do any of you guys out there know of a company that makes vinyl cut
lettering out of that reflective film. I would like to use it for my N
numbers and other little things on the soap box. Seeya Ben Haas.

David Pincus

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Nov 4, 2002, 3:49:50 PM11/4/02

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> Barnyard BOB wrote:
> Your Hi-viz paint may be great, but as Pastor Dave has noted
> below, you are sailing on your own version of the Titanic.

My goodness! Buffalo BOb is *QUOTING* me??? And here I thought we
weren't on speaking terms anymore!

> > Ben Haas wrote:
> >
> > the same people that make certified cranks for a well known ....

Speaking of certifiable cranks, BOb...... are you there??? (Whatcha
wanna bet he says *SILENCE* again?)

> >Come on out to Jackson Hole and I will buy ya a Steak and if you can
> >prove that you really are 50 years accident free I might even let ya
> >land at my private airport 2WY3. Dress warmly though, it is below 0 in
> >the mornings. Seeya later Ben Haas N801BH.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

> Would you believe....
> *ALMOST* accident free for a small steak?

> Would you believe....
> Accident free for 38 1/2 years for a medium size steak?

> Would you believe.....
> I have no pilot's license, no ratings,
> and don't even have a dog?
>
>Barnyard BOb

Yeah, THAT we'd believe!

Meanwhile Buffalo BOb was actually Maxwell Smart, and he doesn't even
sound like Agent 86!...

And all this "accident free" aviation stuff BOb has been trying to blow
past everyone is strictly for the birds (get that? flying.. birds...
whatever). In fact he is a one-man occupational hazard waiting to
happen! The proof of which is contained in the following documented
accident from the Worker's Compensation Board:

Dear Sir:
I am writing in response to your request for additional information on
the accident reporting form. I put "poor planning" as the cause of my
accident. You said in your letter that I should explain more fully and I
trust that the following details will be sufficient.

I am a bricklayer by trade. On the day of the accident, I was working
alone on the roof of a new six-story building. When I completed my work,
I discovered that I had about 500 pounds of bricks left over. Rather
than carry the bricks down by hand, I decided to lower them in a barrel
by using a pulley which, fortunately, was attached to the side of the
building at the sixth floor. Securing the rope at ground level I went up
to the roof, swung the barrel out and loaded the bricks into it.

Then I went back to the ground and untied the rope, holding it tightly
to ensure a slow descent of the 500 pounds of bricks. You will note on
my accident form that my weight is 135 pounds. Due to my surprise at
being jerked off the ground so suddenly, I lost my presence of mind and
forgot to let go of the rope. Needless to say, I proceeded at a rather
rapid rate up the side of the building.

In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel, which was now
proceeding in a downward direction at an equally impressive rate of
speed. This explains the fractured skull, minor abrasions, and the
broken collarbone, as listed in Section 3 of the accident reporting
form.

Slowed only slightly, I continued my rapid ascent, not stopping until
the fingers of my right hand were two knuckles deep into the pulley.
Fortunately, by this time, I had regained my presence of mind and was
able to hold tightly to the rope, in spite of the excruciating pain I
was now beginning to experience.

At approximately the same time, however, the barrel of bricks hit the
ground - and the bottom fell out of the barrel. Now devoid of the weight
of the bricks, the barrel weighed approximately 50 pounds. As you might
imagine, I began a rapid descent down the side of the building.

In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel coming up. This
accounts for the two fractured ankles, broken tooth and severe
lacerations of my legs and lower body. Here my luck began to change
slightly. The encounter with the barrel seemed to slow me enough to
lessen my injuries when I fell onto the pile of bricks, and fortunately,
only three vertebrae were cracked.

I am sorry to report, however, that, as I lay there on the pile of
bricks in pain, unable to move and watching the barrel six stories above
me, I again lost my composure and presence of mind and let go of the
rope.

(signed) Robert R. Urban,
Journeyman Bricklayer

Paul Sengupta

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Nov 6, 2002, 4:41:59 PM11/6/02

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The RAF did a lot of research into the best colour to be
able to pick out an aircraft against a background. They
tried all sorts of yellows and "day-glo" oranges and so on,
and eventually found that black was the best colour.

In the last few years they've painted most of their training
fleet black.
.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/airpower/tucano.html
http://www.raf.mod.uk/airpower/ssquirrel.html
http://www.raf.mod.uk/airpower/bell412.html
http://homepages.tesco.net/~xplanesx/xtra/xx178.jpg

One of the first was mine, though the black/yellow was
enhanced upon with a sunburst pattern for airshow use:

http://www.geocities.com/ukdefense/bulldog-uk-1.jpg

I think 3 other Bulldogs were painted black and yellow
as shown here:
http://www.warbirdalley.com/bulldog.htm
before they decided to sell the fleet.

Do you have any pictures on a website? I'd like to see the
result!

Paul

Ed Wischmeyer

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Nov 6, 2002, 8:31:52 PM11/6/02

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Paul Sengupta wrote:
>
> The RAF did a lot of research into the best colour to be
> able to pick out an aircraft against a background. They
> tried all sorts of yellows and "day-glo" oranges and so on,
> and eventually found that black was the best colour.

Another consideration is that if you have a forced landing, you want the
plane to be visible on the surface.

Ed Wischmeyer

edwisch.vcf

Paul Sengupta

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Nov 8, 2002, 2:34:23 PM11/8/02

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Ed Wischmeyer wrote in message <3DC9C287...@isomedia.com>...

>Paul Sengupta wrote:
>>
>> The RAF did a lot of research into the best colour to be
>> able to pick out an aircraft against a background

>Another consideration is that if you have a forced landing, you want the

>plane to be visible on the surface.

Ah, hence the yellow bits I guess.

Paul