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Gary C

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Sep 18, 2002, 11:36:29 AM9/18/02
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My ABS light had been on for many months, on my 95 Accord. I never
had a problem until I had a new muffler installed, plus the pipe that
leads into the muffler from the front of the car (sorry, not much of
an expert). Perhaps it was just coincidence, but the ABS light first
came on when I drove the car home from the muffler shop. Is there
anything they might have done to cause this problem? Of course, the
muffler shop was clueless about it.

Anyway, the light stayed on for months. When I took the car to the
dealer for some recall work, I told them to check the ABS problem and
they said it needed a new pump. After I got the car back, I noticed
the ABS brake fluid level was very low (shouldn't they have added
fluid when they checked it out???). I added fluid myself, and the
second time I started the car after adding it, the ABS light stayed
off. About three weeks later, the fluid was low again, and the ABS
light came back on. Again I added fluid, and the same cycle repeated.

I am not seeing any leakage on the ground, but yet the fluid keeps
getting low. If I take it back to the dealer, I'm sure they'll replace
everything whether it needs it or not, and charge me $800+. I guess I
have no choice, but if anyone thinks there might be a solution I can
implement, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Gary

E. Meyer

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Sep 18, 2002, 12:37:29 PM9/18/02
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There is a known tendency to leak at the plugs on the side of modulator
on these things & there is a published procedure to reseal them. If
that is your problem, you might get lucky.

Most other problems require replacement of the modulator & $800 is about
half what you will end up paying. Fortunately, the ABS is independent
of the main brakes on these cars, so if you don't want to pour that much
money into it, it is OK to just unplug the ABS fuse and pretend you
didn't buy the ABS option. The regular brakes will be fully functional.


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Sep 18, 2002, 12:59:22 PM9/18/02
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...so if you don't want to pour that much
...money into it, it is OK to just unplug the ABS fuse and pretend you
...didn't buy the ABS option. The regular brakes will be fully functional.

Unfortunately my son's 95 Accord had the same issue. Pulling
the fuse (it's rather large) will disengage the ABS, but the
ABS light WILL remain lit on the dash. Been there, done
that.

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E. Meyer

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Sep 18, 2002, 3:13:08 PM9/18/02
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Time for a piece of black tape ?


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> ...so if you don't want to pour that much
> ...money into it, it is OK to just unplug the ABS fuse and pretend you
> ...didn't buy the ABS option. The regular brakes will be fully
functional.
>
> Unfortunately my son's 95 Accord had the same issue. Pulling
> the fuse (it's rather large) will disengage the ABS, but the
> ABS light WILL remain lit on the dash. Been there, done
> that.
>
> --
>

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Gary

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Sep 19, 2002, 12:25:26 AM9/19/02
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Had a 95 Accord a few years ago and had the same problem
Honda picked up the bill, had 50k on the car at the time
Found out that Honda and Acura was having problems with the
ABS pump. At the time they quoted $1200 and I ended up paying
$100. I was ready to disconnect the fuse also.

Gary

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> Time for a piece of black tape ?
>
>

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> news:MPG.17f27afab...@news-server.swfla.rr.com...
> > ...so if you don't want to pour that much
> > ...money into it, it is OK to just unplug the ABS fuse and pretend you
> > ...didn't buy the ABS option. The regular brakes will be fully
> functional.
> >
> > Unfortunately my son's 95 Accord had the same issue. Pulling
> > the fuse (it's rather large) will disengage the ABS, but the
> > ABS light WILL remain lit on the dash. Been there, done
> > that.
> >
> > --
> >

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Sep 19, 2002, 6:20:15 AM9/19/02
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Honda refused to repair the ABS...they wanted $1,300.00! Is
there any chance you can direct me to documentation on the
problem? Thanks.
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In article <Wkci9.138603$5r1.5550612
@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>, geco...@myrealbox.com spewed
forth the following drivel...
...Had a 95 Accord a few years ago and had the same problem
...Honda picked up the bill, had 50k on the car at the time
...Found out that Honda and Acura was having problems with the
...ABS pump. At the time they quoted $1200 and I ended up paying
...$100. I was ready to disconnect the fuse also.
...
...Gary
...
..."E. Meyer" <e.m...@ieee.org> wrote in message
...news:amaj7n$stu$1...@tilde.itg.ti.com...
...> Time for a piece of black tape ?
...>
...>
...> ".·°~ §LëAzZĸ WëA§ëL ~°·." <sleazz...@XYZyahoo.com> wrote in message
...> news:MPG.17f27afab...@news-server.swfla.rr.com...
...> > ...so if you don't want to pour that much
...> > ...money into it, it is OK to just unplug the ABS fuse and pretend you
...> > ...didn't buy the ABS option. The regular brakes will be fully
...> functional.
...> >
...> > Unfortunately my son's 95 Accord had the same issue. Pulling
...> > the fuse (it's rather large) will disengage the ABS, but the
...> > ABS light WILL remain lit on the dash. Been there, done
...> > that.

Rodney W. Rudd

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Sep 19, 2002, 7:45:54 AM9/19/02
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If you are okay without ABS, and just want to disable the system and shut
the light off....you have to unplug the computer. The ABS computer is on the
outboard side of the passenger-side footwell. Pull the lower pillar garnish
off (this is right in front of the door, at the floor level), and you will
see a computer box with two connectors going into it. If you unplug both of
those, your ABS will be disabled, the light will not come on, and your
regular brakes will be fine. I did this for a month when my original pump
went out before I decided to replace the entire modulator.

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George Macdonald

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Sep 19, 2002, 8:53:04 AM9/19/02
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On 18 Sep 2002 08:36:29 -0700, gar...@hotmail.com (Gary C) wrote:

>My ABS light had been on for many months, on my 95 Accord. I never
>had a problem until I had a new muffler installed, plus the pipe that
>leads into the muffler from the front of the car (sorry, not much of
>an expert). Perhaps it was just coincidence, but the ABS light first
>came on when I drove the car home from the muffler shop. Is there
>anything they might have done to cause this problem? Of course, the
>muffler shop was clueless about it.

The only thing I can think of is that during installation of the muffler
and/or pipe they banged the rear wheel ABS sensor mount or damaged some
wiring to it. If that was the case though it would have had to be fixed to
prevent a persistent ABS check light.

>Anyway, the light stayed on for months. When I took the car to the
>dealer for some recall work, I told them to check the ABS problem and
>they said it needed a new pump. After I got the car back, I noticed
>the ABS brake fluid level was very low (shouldn't they have added
>fluid when they checked it out???). I added fluid myself, and the
>second time I started the car after adding it, the ABS light stayed
>off. About three weeks later, the fluid was low again, and the ABS
>light came back on. Again I added fluid, and the same cycle repeated.
>
>I am not seeing any leakage on the ground, but yet the fluid keeps
>getting low. If I take it back to the dealer, I'm sure they'll replace
>everything whether it needs it or not, and charge me $800+. I guess I
>have no choice, but if anyone thinks there might be a solution I can
>implement, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

As someone else suggested that ABS system has been known to leak at the
plugs on the ABS modulator and there is a procedure to reseal them. Check
all around the modualtor for seepage of fluid.

Rgds, George Macdonald

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