OT A Pop Quiz on the Middle East
Michael Gilmore
A Pop Quiz on the Middle East
CHARLEY REESE
Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?
Answer: Israel.
Q: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?
A: Israel.
Q: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of
other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance
of United Nations Security Council resolutions?
A: Israel.
Q: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the
international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and
artillery and naval gunfire?
A: Israel.
Q: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins
into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice
sometimes called exporting terrorism)?
A: Israel.
Q: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military
officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were
executed?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers
who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and
refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to
people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?
A: Israel.
Q: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United
Nations diplomat assassinated?
A: Israel.
Q: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the
assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic
facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship in international waters,
killing 33 and wounding 177 American sailors?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard,
to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet
Union?
A: Israel.
Q: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard,
then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that
the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?
A: Israel.
Q: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in
the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of
Washington insiders?
A: Israel.
Q: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United
Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29
more by U.S. vetoes?
A: Israel.
Q: What country is the United States threatening to bomb because "U.N.
Security Council resolutions must be obeyed?"
A: Iraq.
rob
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You missed some
Q: what country in the Mid east faces extermination by its neighbours if it
lets its guard down
A: Israel
Q: what country in the WORLD faces terrorist attacks almost daily
A: Israel
Q: The population of which mid east country knows more about ethnic
cleansing than any other
A: Israel
Q: Whos a fucking idiot
A: Michael Gilmore
Vern Pellerin
A: Michael Gilmore
Which terrorist loving freak ignores religious extremism and several corrupt
middle eastern governments that screw it's own people into the poorhouse and
then use Israel as a scapegoat, a sacrificial lamb to blame for all it's
problems and divert attention away from it's own internal problems?
A: Michael Gilmore
Michael Gilmore
wrote:
>Which terrorist loving freak ignores religious extremism and several corrupt
>middle eastern governments that screw it's own people into the poorhouse and
>then use Israel as a scapegoat, a sacrificial lamb to blame for all it's
>problems and divert attention away from it's own internal problems?
>A: Michael Gilmore
What right wing individual (I know you said you didn't like Bush) favours the
invasion of a toothless country like Iraq over a nuclear power like North Korea,
to divert it from it's own internal woes?
A: Vern Pellerin
rob
So in about 6 months when the US decides to attack N Korea we can all expect
supportive posts from you?
Michael Gilmore
>
>So in about 6 months when the US decides to attack N Korea we can all expect
>supportive posts from you?
>
Sure Rob, it's a more worthy target than oil rich Iraq!
rob
Ok then, saved on my HD, I have a feeling I will be needing it
rob
So this thread starts off as an attack on Israel and suddenly turns into the
old oil arguement.
Why didnt you just say so, is it because that arguements been fought and
lost and you are to much of a coward to say what you mean. or is it because
you did say what you meant and realised (very quickly) what a fucking idiot
you are and are now trying to change the subject
This means you are either a pussy or a retard, make up your mind
Michael Gilmore
>
>This means you are either a pussy or a retard, make up your mind
>
Rob it's sad to see a full blooded Kiwi like you in the thrall of American
hegemonistic conquests.
Remember Gallipoli and ANZAC Cove, don't follow the new yankee masters into a
stupid war.
Chuck C.
> For papduck.
>
snip
Q: What country holds most of the territory from the original palestinian
mandate and should therefore more properly be called palestine?
A: Jordan
Q: Why is this not resented by the palestinians?
A: 'Cause this is more about the end of Israel than about a homeland.
Q: Why do most idiots like Michael ignore this?
A: It doesn't further their agenda.
Chuck
--
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Benjamin Franklin
rob
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:25:36 +1300, "rob" <r...@thenet.co.nz> wrote:
>
>This means you are either a pussy or a retard, make up your mind
>
Rob it's sad to see a full blooded Kiwi like you in the thrall of American
hegemonistic conquests.
Remember Gallipoli and ANZAC Cove,
If you are trying to impress me with your knowledge of NZ history, try
quoting 2 battles instead of the same one twice
don't follow the new yankee masters into a
stupid war.
No worrys there, our treehugger gov isnt going to without UN backing. Which
will probably never happen. If your now thinking of bringing up our SAS in
Afghan, we had a bit of revenge of our own to get, so dont bother trying to
draw comparisions.
And NZ is probably the only western Democracy that doesnt have an alliance
with the US, so they may be your masters, but not mine
Personally, I think Saddam should get a Tomahawk up his ass. He's been
shitting all over Clinton for years and now its the old team of Bush,
Cheney, Powell back the whitehouse its good to see him sweat.
Michael Starke
people might be interested to read it. Why pollute this group?
Most inconsiderate of you.
mjs
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A Pop Quiz on the Middle East
CHARLEY REESE
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Vern Pellerin
>What right wing individual (I know you said you didn't like Bush) favours=
> the
>invasion of a toothless country like Iraq over a nuclear power like North=
> Korea,
>to divert it from it's own internal woes?
>A: Vern Pellerin
Toothless says you. I'd trust the U.S. government intelligence over your
concept anyday. Either could be wrong, but my money is on U.S. intelligence.
And that "diversion" theory is so overly simplistic and downright stupid as to
be laughable. Personally I don't think Bush is good with economy issues (to
put it lightly), but to think his one track focus on removing terrorist
threats is JUST to AVOID the bad U.S. economy issue is 3rd grade level logic.
Vern Pellerin
>
>Sure Rob, it's a more worthy target than oil rich Iraq!
Make note of it. If an attack happens, he'll probably be the FIRST to
critice the U.S. over it, in spite of what he just said. Apparently it's
world sport now to hate the U.S., reasons be damned.
And the "oil" argument for this second war on Iraq is laughably stupid too.
It's about threats to the U.S. this time, not oil. But you keep thinking it's
about oil if it helps you sleep better at night hating America for false
reasons.
Vern Pellerin
>Q: What country holds most of the territory from the original palestinian
>mandate and should therefore more properly be called palestine?
>A: Jordan
>
>Q: Why is this not resented by the palestinians?
>A: 'Cause this is more about the end of Israel than about a homeland.
>
>Q: Why do most idiots like Michael ignore this?
>A: It doesn't further their agenda.
>
>Chuck
BINGO.
Sure12
stand amazed at how Hitler is long dead yet his thick,backwards lowbrow and
primitive hatred of jewish people is still succesfully passed down to people
with low IQ's. anti-semitism truly is a dumb, stupid, ideology for the easily
lead.
I mean the middle eastern street arabs I get, these arent smart people who are
afraid of everything from women, to their imaginary deitys, but when it comes
from white guys its just creepy.
NST
No racism here!
NST
Sure12
No racism here!
NST>>>
yawn,.what do you have a problem with? the intelligent middle eastern arabs
stoning women do death(oh, they HATE women)for every other reason, making them
wear full body bags,or killing homosexuals, or the mindless street ralleys
where they burn effifgies, or the strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up
little boys and little girls cause they feel weally weally strong about their
real estate.oh and blaming jews and the USA for EVERYTHING and not caring their
own religion was hi-jacked? but like I said, these arent smart people and you
cant show otherwise.because they are the true racists.
deal with it.
NST
arabs" and "white guys".
Nothing racist about those statements.
I am sure that you, having lived in the middle east for some time, are
in a position to know what you are talking about. You *have* lived
there, haven't you. I mean to say,... you do know a little more about
what you are talking about than what you see on AMERICAN television,
don't you?
I am sure pd and his band of slobbering sycophants will be along any
moment to award you medal for your patriotism.
NST
rob
do
How much time have you spent in the mid-east?
Rob
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is.
>Oh, no. Please keep making sweeping generalizations about "street
>arabs" and "white guys".
So the intent of Radical Islam is NOT to institute the Sharia code of
justice...? Wahabbism is NOT about the destruction of women..? They
DONT stone women who have been raped? Which countries are following a
FORM of the Sharia code of justice...?
>Nothing racist about those statements.
Nothing at all...simply stating fact. Radical Islam is a plague on
humans and the ones hardest hit will be your women because you will
still be playing with yourself while your mothers, sisters and
daughters and wives are wrapped up in Rags and demoted to a status
below that of slaves. (Slaves are higher than women because if a Male
Slave converts to Islam he has equal rights to all the rest of the
fanatics). Course Female slaves are only good for raping. Weeeeeee.
>I am sure that you, having lived in the middle east for some time, are
>in a position to know what you are talking about. You *have* lived
>there, haven't you. I mean to say,... you do know a little more about
>what you are talking about than what you see on AMERICAN television,
>don't you?
Well duh idiot. Its not that hard to read English translation
newpapers from the Middle East, to read that Jews are pigs and apes,
to see with our own eyes the treatment given to women with
documentaris done by Native Women journalists. Only a stupid fucking
liar like you could miss all the evidence. Bernard Lewis has a series
of books you would do well to read so that you may wise up.
>I am sure pd and his band of slobbering sycophants will be along any
>moment to award you medal for your patriotism.
I destroy your arguments point by point and all you can respond with
is personal insults. At least try and argue the points.
PAPA DOC
>NST
>
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
www.papadoc.net
Loudspeaker of USS Harry Truman carrier
departing to the Persian Gulf 12/06/2002
"Peace on Earth to men of goodwill,"
"All others stand by."
Maj. Bryan Hilferty, of 10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in
more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."
Dr Oddness Killtroll
rob wrote:
>
> Q: Whos a fucking idiot
> A: Michael Gilmore
LMAO
DrOk
NST
2 in Yemen (Sana'a to be exact), and a year each in Israel and Saudi
Arabia. But please show me what "facts" I have stated.
But if you are saying that the images portrayed on AMERICAN television
tell the whole story then you are a liar. And if you are saying that
his description of 'street arabs" is an accurate portrayal of the
ENTIRE population of the middle east than you are also a liar.
But it really wasn't that part that annoyed me. While people can help
being ignorant, it is ultimately their choice to be publicly so. The
part that really did it for me was the "white guy" part.
But I guess you agree with that one too, eh?
Ever heard the saying "lay down with dogs, get up with flees"?
NST
Dr Oddness Killtroll
Michael Gilmore wrote:
>
> On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:25:36 +1300, "rob" <r...@thenet.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >
> >This means you are either a pussy or a retard, make up your mind
> >
> Rob it's sad to see a full blooded Kiwi like you in the thrall of American
> hegemonistic conquests.
LOL.
And establishing a 'hegemon', islamic hegemony, ISNT a motive of
worldwide Islamic terror?
LOL. Don't read much, I suppose...
Additionally, and reduction of US troop strength, by 500000 members, in
the last 10 years, including a reduction in europe, by 200000, is
consistent with a "hegemonistic conquests" accusation, now, is it?
BTW, was Kosova hegemony?
>
> Remember Gallipoli and ANZAC Cove, don't follow the new yankee masters into a
> stupid war.
Churchill sure got smarter, later, no?
Don't confuse/blame us, for your Imperial governments lack of foresight
80 years ago. Its neither relevant, nor a proper parallel.
DrOk
Dr Oddness Killtroll
NST wrote:
>
> Oh, no. Please keep making sweeping generalizations about "street
> arabs" and "white guys".
>
> Nothing racist about those statements.
Nope.
Nothing.
I mean, take Kabul, or Lahore, for example. Cities, in countries just
loaded with folks with an opportunity for education, who take advantage
of same, and a deep and abiding love for folks of the Jewish faith, or
race.
Jeesh, in Teheran, the civil populace is actively combating the mullahs
desire to more strongly impose draconian dogma on the populace, and in
Cairo, things are even worse.
Muslims and arabs LOVE jews. And have a GREAT standard of living, across
the region.
Funny thing is, there still warfare, and strife, throughout, as well.
Go figure.
LOL.
DrOk
Who knows that fire burns without having to stick his hand in the stove,
daily.
rob
> 4 years.
>
> 2 in Yemen (Sana'a to be exact), and a year each in Israel and Saudi
> Arabia. But please show me what "facts" I have stated.
reffering to sure12's facts, which they are, you cant deny all of what he
said happens
>
> But if you are saying that the images portrayed on AMERICAN television
> tell the whole story then you are a liar. And if you are saying that
> his description of 'street arabs" is an accurate portrayal of the
> ENTIRE population of the middle east than you are also a liar.
Well, I cant comment on US TV, since I am in New Zealand
But I will say his description of 'street arabs' is pretty damn close based
on what I saw during my six months in Israel and west bank. Good thing
about being a kiwi is we aren't big enough to hate, so I think I got a
pretty honest assesment. You can call me a liar if you want, I cant help
thinking you may be pulling the wool over your eyes.
>
> But it really wasn't that part that annoyed me. While people can help
> being ignorant, it is ultimately their choice to be publicly so. The
> part that really did it for me was the "white guy" part.
>
> But I guess you agree with that one too, eh?
What annoyed me in this thread was the (probably) white guy who started it
I know he was just trolling, but shit like that has to be answered
>
> Ever heard the saying "lay down with dogs, get up with flees"?
In NZ we have a similer saying 'sleep with dogs, wake up with crabs' :-)
Rob
NST
>
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>> 4 years.
>>
>> 2 in Yemen (Sana'a to be exact), and a year each in Israel and Saudi
>> Arabia. But please show me what "facts" I have stated.
>
>reffering to sure12's facts, which they are, you cant deny all of what he
>said happens
No question. There are lunatics and fanatics everywhere. My
problem is that certain members of this ng paint ALL residents of the
middle east with the same brush. Slogans like "ALL TOWELHEADS MUST
DIE" are all too common around here, and too readilly accepted, even
if they are made by a once important member of the group. Seems to me
there were a couple of American terrorists that blew up a building in
Oklahoma a few years ago, but I don't remember pd shouting that "ALL
BALLCAP WEARING CRACKERS MUST DIE".
>>
>> But if you are saying that the images portrayed on AMERICAN television
>> tell the whole story then you are a liar. And if you are saying that
>> his description of 'street arabs" is an accurate portrayal of the
>> ENTIRE population of the middle east than you are also a liar.
>
>Well, I cant comment on US TV, since I am in New Zealand
>But I will say his description of 'street arabs' is pretty damn close based
>on what I saw during my six months in Israel and west bank. Good thing
>about being a kiwi is we aren't big enough to hate, so I think I got a
>pretty honest assesment. You can call me a liar if you want, I cant help
>thinking you may be pulling the wool over your eyes.
You get CNN don't you? They have become almost laughable in their
blind rush to support the coming war. A really good example was a
recent interview Connie Chung did with an expert on Cuba. The expert
was trying to put some historical context around the animosity that
the US feels towards Cuba and Connie cut her off with the question
"Castro or Sadam... who is the more ruthless dictator?" If it hadn't
been so pathetic, it would have ben funny.
Think what you like, but Israel and the West Bank are not exactly the
place you want to be to get a fair assesment. People under military
occupation are rarely at their best.
>>
>> But it really wasn't that part that annoyed me. While people can help
>> being ignorant, it is ultimately their choice to be publicly so. The
>> part that really did it for me was the "white guy" part.
>>
>> But I guess you agree with that one too, eh?
>
>What annoyed me in this thread was the (probably) white guy who started it
>I know he was just trolling, but shit like that has to be answered
And so you challenge him by supporting his statement? Interesting
approach.
>>
>> Ever heard the saying "lay down with dogs, get up with flees"?
>In NZ we have a similer saying 'sleep with dogs, wake up with crabs' :-)
Actually my first actual date was with a New Zealander... Westbury I
think her name was. Really nice girl.
NST
rob
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:16:41 +1300, "rob" <r...@thenet.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >reffering to sure12's facts, which they are, you cant deny all of what he
> >said happens
>
> No question. There are lunatics and fanatics everywhere. My
> problem is that certain members of this ng paint ALL residents of the
> middle east with the same brush.
> >Well, I cant comment on US TV, since I am in New Zealand
> >But I will say his description of 'street arabs' is pretty damn close
based
> >on what I saw during my six months in Israel and west bank. Good thing
> >about being a kiwi is we aren't big enough to hate, so I think I got a
> >pretty honest assesment. You can call me a liar if you want, I cant help
> >thinking you may be pulling the wool over your eyes.
>
> You get CNN don't you? They have become almost laughable in their
> blind rush to support the coming war. A really good example was a
> recent interview Connie Chung did with an expert on Cuba. The expert
> was trying to put some historical context around the animosity that
> the US feels towards Cuba and Connie cut her off with the question
> "Castro or Sadam... who is the more ruthless dictator?" If it hadn't
> been so pathetic, it would have ben funny.
We do get it on pay tv, but I'm not paying to watch that rubbish
>
> Think what you like, but Israel and the West Bank are not exactly the
> place you want to be to get a fair assesment. People under military
> occupation are rarely at their best.
Also spent time in Yemen, Saudi, Egypt, Syria, Jordon and Turkey (both sides
of the straits) mainly backpacking to ancient cities etc, so I did get a
wider picture
> >>
> >> But it really wasn't that part that annoyed me. While people can help
> >> being ignorant, it is ultimately their choice to be publicly so. The
> >> part that really did it for me was the "white guy" part.
> >>
> >> But I guess you agree with that one too, eh?
> >
> >What annoyed me in this thread was the (probably) white guy who started
it
> >I know he was just trolling, but shit like that has to be answered
>
> And so you challenge him by supporting his statement? Interesting
> approach.
I'm challenging Michael Gilmore and his post, I am supporting sure12 saying
that kind of anti Israeli retoric is creepy coming from a (probably) white
guy, we may have different interpretations
> >>
> >> Ever heard the saying "lay down with dogs, get up with flees"?
> >In NZ we have a similer saying 'sleep with dogs, wake up with crabs' :-)
>
> Actually my first actual date was with a New Zealander... Westbury I
> think her name was. Really nice girl.
If she was from 'the' Westbury family, you missed out, they are rolling in
cash.
They own, amongst other things, a big horse stud just down the road
Glenn Campbell
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For papduck.
A Pop Quiz on the Middle East
CHARLEY REESE
Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?
Answer: Israel.
Q: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?
A: Israel.
Q: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of
other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance
of United Nations Security Council resolutions?
A: Israel.
Q: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the
international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and
artillery and naval gunfire?
A: Israel.
Q: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins
into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice
sometimes called exporting terrorism)?
A: Israel.
Q: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military
officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were
executed?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers
who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and
refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to
people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?
A: Israel.
Q: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United
Nations diplomat assassinated?
A: Israel.
Q: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the
assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic
facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship in international waters,
killing 33 and wounding 177 American sailors?
A: Israel.
Q: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard,
to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet
Union?
A: Israel.
Q: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard,
then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that
the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?
A: Israel.
Q: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in
the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of
Washington insiders?
A: Israel.
Q: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United
Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29
more by U.S. vetoes?
A: Israel.
Q: What country is the United States threatening to bomb because "U.N.
Security Council resolutions must be obeyed?"
A: Iraq.
Sure12
I am sure that you, having lived in the middle east for some time, are
in a position to know what you are talking about. You *have* lived
there, haven't you. I mean to say,... you do know a little more about
what you are talking about than what you see on AMERICAN television,
don't you?>>>>
AMERICAN television didnt strap bombs to itself and walk into pizza parlours
and shopping malls and buses to blow up some little boys and little girls for
real estate. it didnt create Jihad on civilians and the low IQ hatred of "der
juden", or tell people to fly planes into buildings because a imaginary deity
said so. TV doest make women have to wear full body tents and stone homosexuals
and women and allow their own religion to get hijacked. nobody gets a get out
of jail free pass. these arabs are primitive and have low IQ's and its time
people werent so PC and start admitiing there is something dysfunctional over
there. and it isnt the land.
Sure12
his description of 'street arabs" is an accurate portrayal of the
ENTIRE population of the middle east than you are also a liar.>>>>
well then! the ENTIRE population bows down to the few extremists then cause
they wont handle their own problem and take back their own religion. its silent
agreement. reckless disregard. so either they are cowards or they are too
stupid to understand. oh hell, maybe both, because they sure seem to be a large
bunch of people with very very low IQ's in the middle eastern
countries.primitive behaviour.
NST
>
>AMERICAN television didnt strap bombs to itself and walk into pizza parlours
>and shopping malls and buses to blow up some little boys and little girls for
>real estate.
You mean like what happened to the children in Oklahoma when the true
Americans blew up the govenment building?
> it didnt create Jihad on civilians and the low IQ hatred of "der
>juden",
As opposed to people on this group proclaiming "DEATH TO THE
TOWELHEADS" ?
> or tell people to fly planes into buildings because a imaginary deity
>said so.
So much easier to use cruise missiles and Arabic targets, don'cha
think?
>TV doest make women have to wear full body tents and stone homosexuals and women
You mean like the young man who was tied to the fence and beaten to
death in your country by true Americans? Or the other over 2,000
annual hate crimes comitted against homosexuals in America by true
Americans every year? And do you really wanna talk about viloence
against women pal? You country leads the world on that one, so don't
even start with me.
> and allow their own religion to get hijacked.
As oppose to Jerry Falwell (another true American) blaming all of you
non-believers for Sept. 11th? No sign of Christianity getting
highjacked there I suppose?
>nobody gets a get out
>of jail free pass.
Except who YOU choose to ignore.
> these arabs are primitive and have low IQ's and its time
>people werent so PC and start admitiing there is something dysfunctional over
>there. and it isnt the land.
Still waiting to hear how many years you spent living amongst them.
No?
I didn't think so.
NST
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>You mean like what happened to the children in Oklahoma when the true
>Americans blew up the govenment building?
Oops you mean the one where it increasingly looks like the Towel
Headed Ones were acting out their fantasies thru people who also
believe that the Jews acting thru the US government are the bane of
mankind....at least when they arent busy making pies with babies blood
according to those "Civilized" Middle Easterners.
>As opposed to people on this group proclaiming "DEATH TO THE
>TOWELHEADS" ?
Oooh boy I love that moral equivilancy, I guess we should be happy
that you have some concept of morality.
>> or tell people to fly planes into buildings because a imaginary deity
>>said so.
>
>So much easier to use cruise missiles and Arabic targets, don'cha
>think?
hehe..And we were doing that prior to their flying the planes into the
buildings..? Oh thats right we were, we attacked them with Cruise
missles in the middle of the night for reprisal of their attempt to
murder a US president.
>>TV doest make women have to wear full body tents and stone homosexuals and women
>
>You mean like the young man who was tied to the fence and beaten to
>death in your country by true Americans? Or the other over 2,000
>annual hate crimes comitted against homosexuals in America by true
>Americans every year? And do you really wanna talk about viloence
>against women pal? You country leads the world on that one, so don't
>even start with me.
hehe...Sheesh you guys are funny. If what you were saying was true
then we wouldnt have to be building fences to keep all those people
out.
>> and allow their own religion to get hijacked.
>
>As oppose to Jerry Falwell (another true American) blaming all of you
>non-believers for Sept. 11th? No sign of Christianity getting
>highjacked there I suppose?
I will alert the news when Jerry lifts a hand against another American
much less flies a plane into a building.
PAPA DOC
Sure12
death in your country by true Americans? Or the other over 2,000
annual hate crimes comitted against homosexuals in America by true
Americans every year? And do you really wanna talk about viloence
against women pal? You country leads the world on that one, so don't
even start with me.>>>>>>
I'm starting in with you.we dont have mass graves here. we dont have ethnic
cleansings. the difference between the hate crimes we have here and there is,
here, they arent given the" wink wink" by the general population. we dotn
glorify it.the crimes arent ignored.they dont meet silence by leaders or the
public. they get prosecuted. and we deal with and educate against it so much
so you can see how PC we are. the arab middle east turns what we have on its
end. its like the bizzaro version. anything goes. kill civilians especially
jews and americans, hell take over islam and use it to kill, cause the leaders
dont care and the population doesnt fight it. thankfully the USA and britain
stands up to it. while the rest of the world placates the killers via peace
protests.
Dusty Rhodes
TOO BAD THEY DON"T HAVE SHIT TO DO WITH THE QUESTOINS YOUR ARE ANSWERING OR
THE STATEMENTS YOU ARE COUNTERING!!!!! Tell the whole story dickcheese!
> You mean like what happened to the children in Oklahoma when the true
> Americans blew up the govenment building?
He was killed for what he did, not made a martyr and condoned by Americans!
>
> > it didnt create Jihad on civilians and the low IQ hatred of "der
> >juden",
>
> As opposed to people on this group proclaiming "DEATH TO THE
> TOWELHEADS" ?
>
WTF does his statement have to do with your question? Not a fucking thing.
But it fits your story line. What a maroon.
> So much easier to use cruise missiles and Arabic targets, don'cha
> think?
>
In response to mass killings of people from all over the world, a cruise
missile attack was tame. Thank you nut hairs it wasn't a Republican in
office back then!
> You mean like the young man who was tied to the fence and beaten to
> death in your country by true Americans?
And they were punished to the fullest extent of the law asshole. What they
do to women and homosexuals is CONDONED and encouraged!!!! We prosecute,
they CONDONE. Nice example dumb ass.
Or the other over 2,000
> annual hate crimes comitted against homosexuals in America by true
> Americans every year?
You know of those because they are REPORTED HERE. Are the reported in the
Middle East? YEAH they are as the law, or moral police are the ones doing
it!!!!! It is PROSECUTED by the law here and reported. There it is
COMMITTED by the law and CONDONED ase a GOOD thing. Another fine example!
And do you really wanna talk about viloence
> against women pal? You country leads the world on that one, so don't
> even start with me.
>
Because we report it and prosecute it fuckwad. It is CONDONED and
ENCOURAGED and done by those who enforce the law there. It isn't reported
as abuse by those governements and societies. We report it and prosecute
it.
Oh you really shined this time NST. Keep it up, you are really looking
stupid, which I CONDONE and ENCOURAGE.
> As oppose to Jerry Falwell (another true American) blaming all of you
> non-believers for Sept. 11th? No sign of Christianity getting
> highjacked there I suppose?
BAHAHAHA Jerry Falwell is seen as the buffoon he is by the vast majority of
America. The mullahs and power mad idiots in the Middle East are revered
and followed BLINDLY. They hold total power and keep their society from
advancing because they would lose that power.
Jesus NST, this has to be your weakest effort yet. Hell it wasn't even an
effort you just pulled straws out of your ass. You have stupid below
IDIOCY!
Dusty Rhodes
Allan Mayer
writes:
>Think what you like, but Israel and the West Bank are not exactly the
>place you want to be to get a fair assesment. People under military
>occupation are rarely at their best.
Gee, lets not mention, and or worry about how that hppened
shall we ??
Israel was attacked by their neighbors REPEATEDLY, and
defended themselves !!
Only after the repeated attacks did Israel occupy territory.
But I guess to you, arab states repeatedly attacking Israel
is not a problem ?? Neither is their state sponsered terrorism ??
But what you are really telling us, is thats it's ok for the rest of
the world to stereotype Americans, but totally unacceptable for
Americans to do so to the rest of the world............
Allan
http://members.aol.com/Thetabat/hello.html
"Only a Gentleman can insult me, and a true Gentleman never will..."
Allan Mayer
writes:
>Or the other over 2,000
>annual hate crimes comitted against homosexuals in America by true
>Americans every year?
Amazing !!! A eurotrashian lecturing us about hate crimes !!
I could understand if you were giving us instructions on how to
do hate crimes better, seeing as how ya all have such a fantastic
track record for ethnic clensing, religious clensing, and mass murder.
Oh, and lets not forget about trying to hide mass graves !! Ya all seem
to making new one's all the time !!
Yeah if you wanted teach us how we could kill more and oppress
people better, than yes, we shold take your advice.
But to critize the US for hate crimes here ??
You had better take a look at yourselevs, you have far more to worry
about right where you live !!
PAPADOC
>No question. There are lunatics and fanatics everywhere. My
>problem is that certain members of this ng paint ALL residents of the
>middle east with the same brush. Slogans like "ALL TOWELHEADS MUST
>DIE" are all too common around here, and too readilly accepted, even
>if they are made by a once important member of the group.
If its all so common please provide the quote...and the entire one
this time asswipe.
> Seems to me
>there were a couple of American terrorists that blew up a building in
>Oklahoma a few years ago, but I don't remember pd shouting that "ALL
>BALLCAP WEARING CRACKERS MUST DIE".
One did die and the other one MAY die...but we STILL arent going after
the Fanatics in Elohim City who were supported by Saddam...I bet you
are upset that we havent gone after Saddam for that murder. Eh.
>You get CNN don't you? They have become almost laughable in their
>blind rush to support the coming war. A really good example was a
>recent interview Connie Chung did with an expert on Cuba. The expert
>was trying to put some historical context around the animosity that
>the US feels towards Cuba and Connie cut her off with the question
>"Castro or Sadam... who is the more ruthless dictator?" If it hadn't
>been so pathetic, it would have ben funny.
Aside from your idiocy regarding how we get our news, its alot broader
than what you are offered btw, I will say its not such an absurd
question. Castro has also been a terrible monster of a dictator....and
dont lets not have you paint me a rosy picture based on your leftist
bullshit. Best friend in Las Vegas was from Cuba, Dad spent lots of
time in Cuba and Castro was not walk in the park.
>Think what you like, but Israel and the West Bank are not exactly the
>place you want to be to get a fair assesment. People under military
>occupation are rarely at their best.
hehe...Well then nowhere in the Middle East can you get an honset
opinion since all of them live under dictatorships.
NST
>In article <e2r61vgk2a5godt95...@4ax.com>, NST <no...@all.com>
>writes:
>
>>Think what you like, but Israel and the West Bank are not exactly the
>>place you want to be to get a fair assesment. People under military
>>occupation are rarely at their best.
>
>
>
>Gee, lets not mention, and or worry about how that hppened
>shall we ??
Sure, lets mention it.
But first please let me know what you know about he creation of the
State of Israel by the UN. Where, exactly, did the land come from.?
Who had homes, farms and families there for centuries prior to the
land being awarded to Israel? Where did the previous occupants go
after they left their homes? Were they happy about it? Would you be?
Hint: it wasn't Disney world.
And I worry about it a great deal
>
>Israel was attacked by their neighbors REPEATEDLY, and
>defended themselves !!
Read some history Alan. Read about the creation of the State of
Israel. then form an opinion. There really are two sides o every
story.
>Only after the repeated attacks did Israel occupy territory.
Please read some history.
>
>But I guess to you, arab states repeatedly attacking Israel
>is not a problem ?? Neither is their state sponsered terrorism ??
OF COURSE IT IS A PROBLEM. Violence is not going to solve the middle
east problems. Ever.
>
>
>
>But what you are really telling us, is thats it's ok for the rest of
>the world to stereotype Americans, but totally unacceptable for
>Americans to do so to the rest of the world............
Can you really be this stupid? You can't. Can you?
WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT IT IS NOT OK FOR EITHER SIDE TO STEREOTYPE!
The demonizing that you, pd and the rest of this slathering bunch do
about Arabs is NO DIFFERENT that the way YOU ARE PORTRAYED THERE! You
are NO BETTER THAN THEM.
The difference is that your country is about to murder hundreds of
thousands of them because you have finally discovered that you cannot
trust Saudi Arabia anymore. Some of them may have been friends of
mine.
NST
NST
<james...@charter.net> wrote:
>You are a pure propogandist NST.
Again, would you look up the meaning of words before using them.
Please show me what propaganda I have been indulging in. All Arabs
aren't scum? yeah, OK... guilty as charged?
>Nice try with the below examples you give.
>TOO BAD THEY DON"T HAVE SHIT TO DO WITH THE QUESTOINS YOUR ARE ANSWERING OR
>THE STATEMENTS YOU ARE COUNTERING!!!!! Tell the whole story dickcheese!
Ooooh. Dickcheese. Well argued!
>
>> You mean like what happened to the children in Oklahoma when the true
>> Americans blew up the govenment building?
>
>He was killed for what he did, not made a martyr and condoned by Americans!
Really. Not condoned? Not martyered? Not by Americans? Try these...
http://www.patshannan.bizland.com/musingsmayone.html
http://www.webcom.com/wildcat/timhero.htm
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_369701.html?menu=
and my particular favorite...
http://www.churchfliers.com/sub_articles/tmcveigh.html
and before you say anything else stupid, the KKK and the Neo-Nazi
Skinheads occupy the same place in Western society that the Radical
Fundamentalist Islamics do in theirs.
>> > it didnt create Jihad on civilians and the low IQ hatred of "der
>> >juden",
>>
>> As opposed to people on this group proclaiming "DEATH TO THE
>> TOWELHEADS" ?
>>
>
>WTF does his statement have to do with your question? Not a fucking thing.
>But it fits your story line. What a maroon.
If you can't see the connection between the demonization of the Jews
by Germans in the 30's and what you, pd, Mayers and several others do
to Arabs then I am going back to talk to that rock over there.
Juden... Towelheads... see the connection now?
>
>> So much easier to use cruise missiles and Arabic targets, don'cha
>> think?
>>
>
>In response to mass killings of people from all over the world, a cruise
>missile attack was tame. Thank you nut hairs it wasn't a Republican in
>office back then!
According to pd it was retaliation for attempting to murder Bush Sr.
If so, when are you launching on Dallas?
>
>> You mean like the young man who was tied to the fence and beaten to
>> death in your country by true Americans?
>
>And they were punished to the fullest extent of the law asshole. What they
>do to women and homosexuals is CONDONED and encouraged!!!! We prosecute,
>they CONDONE. Nice example dumb ass.
And yet violence against Gays and Women continues to rise in your
country! And yet you would have us believe you are a superior "race"
to Arabs! Our system is better, no question... we are talking about
the difference between, and I quote, "street arabs" and "white guys".
>
>Or the other over 2,000
>> annual hate crimes comitted against homosexuals in America by true
>> Americans every year?
>
>You know of those because they are REPORTED HERE. Are the reported in the
>Middle East? YEAH they are as the law, or moral police are the ones doing
>it!!!!! It is PROSECUTED by the law here and reported. There it is
>COMMITTED by the law and CONDONED ase a GOOD thing. Another fine example!
And yet again, the stats continue to climb. Great system, lousy
populace?
>
>And do you really wanna talk about viloence
>> against women pal? You country leads the world on that one, so don't
>> even start with me.
>>
>
>Because we report it and prosecute it fuckwad. It is CONDONED and
>ENCOURAGED and done by those who enforce the law there. It isn't reported
>as abuse by those governements and societies. We report it and prosecute
>it.
>
>
>Oh you really shined this time NST. Keep it up, you are really looking
>stupid, which I CONDONE and ENCOURAGE.
>
>> As oppose to Jerry Falwell (another true American) blaming all of you
>> non-believers for Sept. 11th? No sign of Christianity getting
>> highjacked there I suppose?
>
>BAHAHAHA Jerry Falwell is seen as the buffoon he is by the vast majority of
>America. The mullahs and power mad idiots in the Middle East are revered
>and followed BLINDLY. They hold total power and keep their society from
>advancing because they would lose that power.
Hmmm... I think the 1.2 million viewers who tune into the "Old Time
Gospel Hour" might just disagree with you there. That is if they can
stop forking over millions of dollars long enough.
>
>Jesus NST, this has to be your weakest effort yet. Hell it wasn't even an
>effort you just pulled straws out of your ass. You have stupid below
>IDIOCY!
Yeah... I'm not even sure what you said there.
OK, this *has* been fun but now it is time to point out the BLINDINGLY
OBVIOUS to you.
At nowhere, in any of this, ever, ever, ever have I said that Isalm is
superior to western society. Unlike you, pd, Mayers, the village
idiot and the rest I have live in the middle-east. I know that
western society is superior in most ways. Otherwise I would probably
still be there.
OK so far?
Now, where it all come apart is when people start posting about how
superior "white guys" are to 'street arabs", when it is obvious that
they have never been anywhere but West Bumfuck Ill. in their lives.
When small minded people take an entire race, a civilization that has
been around a helluva lot longer that we have, and brand them all
Towelheads and declare that they all have to die then the echos of
1930 Gremany ring loudly. Does this includes Saudi Arabia, Yemem,
Qatar, Kuwait, the UAE as well? It must, because they all wear
towels on ther heads. Well, I have know a great many people from
these countries and they have been well educated, literate,
intelligent people who would never wish the same on people they have
never met. True, there have been idiots and madmen, but they are in
the minority.
How would you like the US judged on the basis of the KKK? Same deal.
Anyway, to come back to the point... anyone who thinks in terms of
"white guys" being smart and "street arabs" being stupid is racist.
Thats all.
Now lets count...
dickcheese
maroon
asshole
dumb ass
fuckwad
Not much of an effort. Try harder next time.
NST
Whio is thinking of changing to INN... I'm Not NOS
>
>Dusty Rhodes
>
NST
>In article <quv61vs9m3d276q3q...@4ax.com>, NST <no...@all.com>
>writes:
>
>>Or the other over 2,000
>>annual hate crimes comitted against homosexuals in America by true
>>Americans every year?
>
>
>Amazing !!! A eurotrashian lecturing us about hate crimes !!
Alan... at least get a firmer grip on English before trying any new
languages, OK?
>
>I could understand if you were giving us instructions on how to
>do hate crimes better, seeing as how ya all have such a fantastic
>track record for ethnic clensing, religious clensing, and mass murder.
>Oh, and lets not forget about trying to hide mass graves !! Ya all seem
>to making new one's all the time !!
>
>Yeah if you wanted teach us how we could kill more and oppress
>people better, than yes, we shold take your advice.
Actually, I am not aware of any of the above going on where I live or
anywhere near. OK... there was some of that in the country that
borders us to the south, but that was a long time ago and best
forgotten.
>
>But to critize the US for hate crimes here ??
>
>
>You had better take a look at yourselevs, you have far more to worry
>about right where you live !!
Really... it was long long ago, so it doesn't count. And it wasn't my
country... it was our southern neighbors.
NST
rob
> On 02 Jan 2003 10:34:52 GMT, azzz...@aol.com (Allan Mayer) wrote:
>
> But first please let me know what you know about he creation of the
> State of Israel by the UN. Where, exactly, did the land come from.?
> Who had homes, farms and families there for centuries prior to the
> land being awarded to Israel? Where did the previous occupants go
> after they left their homes? Were they happy about it? Would you be?
Well then, shall we go back 2000 odd years into history and asked whos land
it was then
> >Israel was attacked by their neighbors REPEATEDLY, and
> >defended themselves !!
>
> Read some history Alan. Read about the creation of the State of
> Israel. then form an opinion. There really are two sides o every
> story.
>
> >Only after the repeated attacks did Israel occupy territory.
>
> Please read some history.
Perhaps it is you who needs to read some history.
The Jewish settlers were content with the partition resolution after ww2, I
am not saying they were thrilled with the conditions, but they were prepared
to abide by them.
it was the Arab Higher Commitee that threatened and carried out repeated
acts of violence aganist the jewish settlements in jewish land. The
decision by the Jews to go on the offensive was made by Ben-Guiron after the
arabs kept destroying convoys bound for the interior.
> >
> >But I guess to you, arab states repeatedly attacking Israel
> >is not a problem ?? Neither is their state sponsered terrorism ??
>
> OF COURSE IT IS A PROBLEM. Violence is not going to solve the middle
> east problems. Ever.
Then what do you suggest?, do you really believe these fanatics are going to
sit down and talk with each other? Its been tryed many times in the last
100 years and has achieved absolutly nothing
> >
> >
> >
> >But what you are really telling us, is thats it's ok for the rest of
> >the world to stereotype Americans, but totally unacceptable for
> >Americans to do so to the rest of the world............
>
> Can you really be this stupid? You can't. Can you?
>
> WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT IT IS NOT OK FOR EITHER SIDE TO STEREOTYPE!
>
> The demonizing that you, pd and the rest of this slathering bunch do
> about Arabs is NO DIFFERENT that the way YOU ARE PORTRAYED THERE! You
> are NO BETTER THAN THEM.
>
> The difference is that your country is about to murder hundreds of
> thousands of them because you have finally discovered that you cannot
> trust Saudi Arabia anymore. Some of them may have been friends of
> mine.
So you are saying here that Saudi Arabia cannot be trusted?
Rob
NST
>
>"NST" <no...@all.com> wrote in message
>news:dhi91vkccumjkdl94...@4ax.com...
>> On 02 Jan 2003 10:34:52 GMT, azzz...@aol.com (Allan Mayer) wrote:
>>
>> But first please let me know what you know about he creation of the
>> State of Israel by the UN. Where, exactly, did the land come from.?
>> Who had homes, farms and families there for centuries prior to the
>> land being awarded to Israel? Where did the previous occupants go
>> after they left their homes? Were they happy about it? Would you be?
>
>Well then, shall we go back 2000 odd years into history and asked whos land
>it was then
>
>> >Israel was attacked by their neighbors REPEATEDLY, and
>> >defended themselves !!
>>
>> Read some history Alan. Read about the creation of the State of
>> Israel. then form an opinion. There really are two sides o every
>> story.
>>
>> >Only after the repeated attacks did Israel occupy territory.
>>
>> Please read some history.
>
>Perhaps it is you who needs to read some history.
>
>The Jewish settlers were content with the partition resolution after ww2, I
>am not saying they were thrilled with the conditions, but they were prepared
>to abide by them.
Absolute nonsense. No one has their home stole and says Oh, well...
I'm content.
>it was the Arab Higher Commitee that threatened and carried out repeated
>acts of violence aganist the jewish settlements in jewish land. The
>decision by the Jews to go on the offensive was made by Ben-Guiron after the
>arabs kept destroying convoys bound for the interior.
Gee.. I wonder why?
>> >
>> >But I guess to you, arab states repeatedly attacking Israel
>> >is not a problem ?? Neither is their state sponsered terrorism ??
>>
>> OF COURSE IT IS A PROBLEM. Violence is not going to solve the middle
>> east problems. Ever.
>
>Then what do you suggest?, do you really believe these fanatics are going to
>sit down and talk with each other? Its been tryed many times in the last
>100 years and has achieved absolutly nothing
No... let kill them all and build Disneyland East!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >But what you are really telling us, is thats it's ok for the rest of
>> >the world to stereotype Americans, but totally unacceptable for
>> >Americans to do so to the rest of the world............
>>
>> Can you really be this stupid? You can't. Can you?
>>
>> WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT IT IS NOT OK FOR EITHER SIDE TO STEREOTYPE!
>>
>> The demonizing that you, pd and the rest of this slathering bunch do
>> about Arabs is NO DIFFERENT that the way YOU ARE PORTRAYED THERE! You
>> are NO BETTER THAN THEM.
>>
>> The difference is that your country is about to murder hundreds of
>> thousands of them because you have finally discovered that you cannot
>> trust Saudi Arabia anymore. Some of them may have been friends of
>> mine.
>
>So you are saying here that Saudi Arabia cannot be trusted?
Of course they can't. The House of Saud is teetering even as we speak
and the only organized group ready to take over are the Radical
Fundamentalists. The Bush administration realizes this and has set
their sights on the second largest crude oil deposits in the region.
Weapons of Mass Destruction? Don't make me laugh. That's why there
are already discussions going on (read the Economist if you don't
believe me. I know it ain't up there with the Drudge report and
Insight, but they do their best) about carving up the assets after the
war.
Last time I checked they still hadn't found any weapons, or produced
proof that they exist. But what the heck.. they are just a bunch of
Towelheaded Street Arabs. Lets kill 'em all... women, children... the
whole lot. Ignorant dark skinned street arabs. Screw 'em all.
NST
>
>Rob
>
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
which is the same thing.
>Again, would you look up the meaning of words before using them.
>Please show me what propaganda I have been indulging in. All Arabs
>aren't scum? yeah, OK... guilty as charged?
No one has stated that but it does make a nice strawman for you to
knock down...lord knows you arent able to knock anything else down.
>Really. Not condoned? Not martyered? Not by Americans? Try these...
>
>http://www.patshannan.bizland.com/musingsmayone.html
Sheesh the bullshit on this website is remarkable and they are good at
it, mixing just enough truth in it that some lazy stupid people like
you might buy it. Tim McVeigh certainly DID NOT act alone, he had
help, El Elohim City provided the help Saddam provided the funding to
El Elohim.
>http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_369701.html?menu=
Gore Vidal is just about stupid enough to make you look not quite
hopeless. That anyone quotes him invalidates their beliefs and
credibility. You may as well quote Charles Manson and expect respect.
>
>and my particular favorite...
>
>http://www.churchfliers.com/sub_articles/tmcveigh.html
>
>and before you say anything else stupid, the KKK and the Neo-Nazi
>Skinheads occupy the same place in Western society that the Radical
>Fundamentalist Islamics do in theirs.
Yes idiot but there is a huge ass difference....no one allows those
freaks into power. In Arab Countries the freaks are in control....but
that last website shows why the alliance between McVeigh and Saddam
was so convinient.
>If you can't see the connection between the demonization of the Jews
>by Germans in the 30's and what you, pd, Mayers and several others do
>to Arabs then I am going back to talk to that rock over there.
>Juden... Towelheads... see the connection now?
What a maroon, you cannot call your enemies names because your
morality is so crippled by your Political Correctness that you are
fucked in the head. What would you have called the nazis...germans
gone bad...? Or rotten motherfucking murdering scum...?
YOU have lied again and suggested that anyone here has suggested that
we kill all the Arabs. That is a lie and you know it. Towel Headed
Fanatics are not all the arabs.....they are all the Radical Islamists
murdering scum that want to take YOUR mom and sister and rape them.
Then they want to BLOW up your hometown and convert the rest of you.
We need to invade and subdue The Towel Headed Ones to free the common
man in the Middle East.....till they get rid of those religious
fanatics we are all at war whether you want it or not.
>According to pd it was retaliation for attempting to murder Bush Sr.
>If so, when are you launching on Dallas?
Asswipe he was targeting a specific person....it was a bad idea but
Clinton was full of bad ideas. What he should have done is exactly
what Bush HAS done....lay out the problem and attack it.
>
>And yet again, the stats continue to climb. Great system, lousy
>populace?
muahahahaha.......Liar Liar Pants on fire....what a maroon. Prove it
asswipe.
>Hmmm... I think the 1.2 million viewers who tune into the "Old Time
>Gospel Hour" might just disagree with you there. That is if they can
>stop forking over millions of dollars long enough.
It is exactly their right to see that person. In our country unlike
your country ideas arent banned....just violent behavior...we dont try
and control eveyrone.
>Now, where it all come apart is when people start posting about how
>superior "white guys" are to 'street arabs", when it is obvious that
>they have never been anywhere but West Bumfuck Ill. in their lives.
>When small minded people take an entire race, a civilization that has
>been around a helluva lot longer that we have, and brand them all
>Towelheads and declare that they all have to die then the echos of
>1930 Gremany ring loudly.
Liar liar pants on fire....strawmen make much better targets for
you...though I could demolish that as well. You are a lifeless little
prick who if he had a thought for himself would explode.
PAPA DOC
NST
wrote:
>NST lying again....sheesh dont you get tired of it...?
>
>>No question. There are lunatics and fanatics everywhere. My
>>problem is that certain members of this ng paint ALL residents of the
>>middle east with the same brush. Slogans like "ALL TOWELHEADS MUST
>>DIE" are all too common around here, and too readilly accepted, even
>>if they are made by a once important member of the group.
>
>If its all so common please provide the quote...and the entire one
>this time asswipe.
>
OK.. but only because you asked so nicely!
pd's greatest hits... (in no particular order)
No Im not confusing them Im binding them together where they belong.
All towel headed freaks in the corner to die.
And as far as the towel head claim, yup its meant for Arabs
Fuck those towel headed freaks...they dont deserve to be called
anything honorable. They are the worst sorts of scum....
These assholes have to be made to pay in the worst way. All of the
towel headed motherfuckers in the middle east are jumping for joy. I
say lets make'em bounce.
You looked to be bending over for a variety of people but mainly those
Gay Towel Headed Arab Fanatic Murderers.
This isnt a matter of democracy...these towel heads dont want
democracy.
The towel heads think they have the power I say its time they
understood their position in the world. One cut about the fucking
camels.
I will gladly go and take a bullet so that a younger guy can get to
those towel headed motherfuckers.
No my favorite way to refer to Islamic Fundementalists are Towel
Headed Murderers....its more creative than simple ragheads. I prefer
to refer to them all in the past tense and some very capable people
are making sure of that....
… provide support to those who are in the service, provide
intelligence to everyone involved in killing the towel headed ones.
I particularly like the juxtaposition of the last three. You really
are quite the tough guy aren't you?
Now, back to ignoring your drivel.
NST
rob
I will say it again.... Perhaps it is you who needs to read some history
>
> >it was the Arab Higher Commitee that threatened and carried out repeated
> >acts of violence aganist the jewish settlements in jewish land. The
> >decision by the Jews to go on the offensive was made by Ben-Guiron after
the
> >arabs kept destroying convoys bound for the interior.
>
> Gee.. I wonder why?
Because they were completly unwilling to live in peace
> >> >
> >> >But I guess to you, arab states repeatedly attacking Israel
> >> >is not a problem ?? Neither is their state sponsered terrorism ??
> >>
> >> OF COURSE IT IS A PROBLEM. Violence is not going to solve the middle
> >> east problems. Ever.
> >
> >Then what do you suggest?, do you really believe these fanatics are going
to
> >sit down and talk with each other? Its been tryed many times in the last
> >100 years and has achieved absolutly nothing
>
> No... let kill them all and build Disneyland East!
I am going to lay down a challenge to you here
Come up with a better idea that has a chance of working
I see a lot of criticism but no alternatives, so I am giving you a chance
I dont consider myself right wing, but I am a realist so if you can produce
a good plan for peace in the mid east I will give you my full support and
suggest you as the next UN Sec General
> >> The difference is that your country is about to murder hundreds of
> >> thousands of them because you have finally discovered that you cannot
> >> trust Saudi Arabia anymore. Some of them may have been friends of
> >> mine.
> >
> >So you are saying here that Saudi Arabia cannot be trusted?
>
> Of course they can't. The House of Saud is teetering even as we speak
> and the only organized group ready to take over are the Radical
> Fundamentalists. The Bush administration realizes this and has set
> their sights on the second largest crude oil deposits in the region.
> Weapons of Mass Destruction? Don't make me laugh. That's why there
> are already discussions going on (read the Economist if you don't
> believe me. I know it ain't up there with the Drudge report and
> Insight, but they do their best) about carving up the assets after the
> war.
>
> Last time I checked they still hadn't found any weapons, or produced
> proof that they exist. But what the heck.. they are just a bunch of
> Towelheaded Street Arabs. Lets kill 'em all... women, children... the
> whole lot. Ignorant dark skinned street arabs. Screw 'em all.
Typical peacenik talk, lets wait until a very real potential threat gets all
the guns and bombs they need. Did Europe learn nothing from WW2?
Rob
Chuck C.
news:dhi91vkccumjkdl94...@4ax.com:
> On 02 Jan 2003 10:34:52 GMT, azzz...@aol.com (Allan Mayer) wrote:
>
>>In article <e2r61vgk2a5godt95...@4ax.com>, NST
>><no...@all.com> writes:
>>
>>>Think what you like, but Israel and the West Bank are not exactly the
>>>place you want to be to get a fair assesment. People under military
>>>occupation are rarely at their best.
>>
>>
>>
>>Gee, lets not mention, and or worry about how that hppened
>>shall we ??
>
> Sure, lets mention it.
>
> But first please let me know what you know about he creation of the
> State of Israel by the UN. Where, exactly, did the land come from.?
> Who had homes, farms and families there for centuries prior to the
> land being awarded to Israel? Where did the previous occupants go
> after they left their homes? Were they happy about it? Would you be?
>
Somewhat superficial knowlege there.
Ever hear of TransJordan???
Who holds most of the original mandate???
Ever hear of "Black September"?
Chuck
--
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Benjamin Franklin
NST
>
>I am going to lay down a challenge to you here
>
>Come up with a better idea that has a chance of working
>I see a lot of criticism but no alternatives, so I am giving you a chance
>I dont consider myself right wing, but I am a realist so if you can produce
>a good plan for peace in the mid east I will give you my full support and
>suggest you as the next UN Sec General
Nice try. But lets consider your option then. Let's see... both
sides have been killing each other since Issac and Ishmael had their
little falling out and it's working perfectly, don't you think?
We (the so-called civilized world... you know... "white guys") *could*
start by not selling arms to either side.
>
>>
>> Last time I checked they still hadn't found any weapons, or produced
>> proof that they exist. But what the heck.. they are just a bunch of
>> Towelheaded Street Arabs. Lets kill 'em all... women, children... the
>> whole lot. Ignorant dark skinned street arabs. Screw 'em all.
>
>Typical peacenik talk, lets wait until a very real potential threat gets all
>the guns and bombs they need. Did Europe learn nothing from WW2?
Peacenik talk? Just because I want to see some proof, not just empty
claims, before thousands of people are killed? Ok... then I am a
Peacenik.
Show me some proof. Bush can't. Cheney can't. Powell can't. The CIA
can't. The UN Inspection teams can't.
Have you got it?
>
>Rob
>
>
NST
No answers I notice.
NST
rob
>
> >
> >I am going to lay down a challenge to you here
> >
> >Come up with a better idea that has a chance of working
> >I see a lot of criticism but no alternatives, so I am giving you a chance
> >I dont consider myself right wing, but I am a realist so if you can
produce
> >a good plan for peace in the mid east I will give you my full support and
> >suggest you as the next UN Sec General
>
> Nice try. But lets consider your option then. Let's see... both
> sides have been killing each other since Issac and Ishmael had their
> little falling out and it's working perfectly, don't you think?
>
> We (the so-called civilized world... you know... "white guys") *could*
> start by not selling arms to either side.
Not a bad start, I guess the pals could go back to throwing stones, and we
all know how much they like to throw stones dont we?
But its not an answer to the real issue is it?
The real issue is the hate and the mistrust dont you think?
Come on peacenik, you're full of talk, lets see if you are better than
everybody else working on the problem.
> >
>
> >>
> >> Last time I checked they still hadn't found any weapons, or produced
> >> proof that they exist. But what the heck.. they are just a bunch of
> >> Towelheaded Street Arabs. Lets kill 'em all... women, children... the
> >> whole lot. Ignorant dark skinned street arabs. Screw 'em all.
> >
> >Typical peacenik talk, lets wait until a very real potential threat gets
all
> >the guns and bombs they need. Did Europe learn nothing from WW2?
>
> Peacenik talk? Just because I want to see some proof, not just empty
> claims, before thousands of people are killed? Ok... then I am a
> Peacenik.
>
> Show me some proof. Bush can't. Cheney can't. Powell can't. The CIA
> can't. The UN Inspection teams can't.
>
> Have you got it?
Nope, thats why I said very real potential threat, would you rather wait
until your good friend Saddam is handing over nerve gas and nukes to OBL.
The US isnt at war YET, they seem very willing to give your good friend
Saddam a chance, despite what you peaceniks claim. And lets be honest, the
threat of attack seems the only language your good friend Saddam
understands...........let us just wait and see.
Rob
NST
>friend Saddam a chance, despite what you peaceniks claim.
Yup... that why today they just moved another 15000 infantry into the
region and are moving another Carrier group in... to give him a
chance.
This is the largest buildup since 91. They are going to do it because
they want the oil. Plain and simple.
> And lets be honest, the
>threat of attack seems the only language your good friend Saddam
>understands...........let us just wait and see.
>
>Rob
My "good friend Saddam"?
pd... Rob.
Rob... pd.
You have a lot in common.
Are there any adults here at all?
NST
>
>
rob
> >The US isnt at war YET, they seem very willing to give your good
> >friend Saddam a chance, despite what you peaceniks claim.
>
> Yup... that why today they just moved another 15000 infantry into the
> region and are moving another Carrier group in... to give him a
> chance.
>
> This is the largest buildup since 91. They are going to do it because
> they want the oil. Plain and simple.
Plain for the simple you mean
If this war happens, it has little to do with oil, a lot more about self
defence.
>
> > And lets be honest, the
> >threat of attack seems the only language your good friend Saddam
> >understands...........let us just wait and see.
>
> My "good friend Saddam"?
Well, you seem to think that people should just leave him alone, so that he
can get on with gassing his own citizens and wishing us dead. Its only
logical that you must be his good friend because if you weren't you would
see him for what he is
Rob
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
said to "Kill Japs Kill Japs Kill Japs Do your Job so you can kill
more Japs"
We are at war, Killing the Towel Headed Fanatics is our duty....till
they are all gone. Radical Islam is a plague on the human kind....and
you are either stupid or more likely a liar to claim that I want all
Arabs dead. I want ALL RADICAL ISLAMISTS DEAD there is a big
difference between the two and you know it.
Your moral philosophy doesnt allow you to declare your enemy because
your value system doesnt allow for you to have any enemies that are
below you. Mine does and any rational human can see that Radical Islam
is below nearly every other form of belief save its main ally Nazis.
>
>And as far as the towel head claim, yup its meant for Arabs
Again with the partial quotes....not sure with you leftists morals but
thats generally considered dishonest.
>Fuck those towel headed freaks...they dont deserve to be called
>anything honorable. They are the worst sorts of scum....
Yup in reference to the Radical Islamists they surely DO NOT deserve
anything but an anonomous death....as painful as possible.
>These assholes have to be made to pay in the worst way. All of the
>towel headed motherfuckers in the middle east are jumping for joy. I
>say lets make'em bounce.
Yup all the Radical Islamists are jumping for joy and definitely
making them bounce is high on the list of things to do.
>You looked to be bending over for a variety of people but mainly those
>Gay Towel Headed Arab Fanatic Murderers.
Yea anyone who believes that 9/11 was a plot by the Mossad and the CIA
deserves even worse but I ran out of words.
>This isnt a matter of democracy...these towel heads dont want
>democracy.
Yup the evidence is in....Radical Islamists dont want democracy. They
want you to die....
>The towel heads think they have the power I say its time they
>understood their position in the world. One cut about the fucking
>camels.
Yup actually I was being unkind to the camels....Radical Islamist
Towel Headed Murderers are actually below that....
>I will gladly go and take a bullet so that a younger guy can get to
>those towel headed motherfuckers.
Yup taking a bullet to prevent the Radical Islamists Towel Headed
Murdering scum from murdering my children is STILL fine by me. I know
the enemy and I want him and his allies dead. When he changes his
mind about killling me and mine I will change my mind about killing
him and his. He started it we will finish it.
>No my favorite way to refer to Islamic Fundementalists are Towel
>Headed Murderers....its more creative than simple ragheads. I prefer
>to refer to them all in the past tense and some very capable people
>are making sure of that....
So unless you are claiming that all Arabs are Islamic Fundementalists
you havent proven a goddamn thing and remain a liar.
>I particularly like the juxtaposition of the last three. You really
>are quite the tough guy aren't you?
Matter of fact turns out thats correct. Im sort of surprised but hey
wonders never cease...to discover that I will go out of my way to stop
a murderer, twice in my life, stop an armed robbery once, prevent an
assault and chase down a recent murderer give me a nice warm feeling
that if push comes to shove I will stand up and not take it.
>Now, back to ignoring your drivel.
Its best for you not to respond since you look so foolish.
PAPA DOC
>NST
>
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
stupid.
PAPA DOC
PS Hint the question is directed at you asswipe. Have YOU ever heard
of TransJordon.?
rob
given up already?
Its a lot easier for you peaceniks to sit back and critise everyone who
doesnt agree with you then have to think for yourself and come up with a
peacenik solution isn't it
Chuck C.
news:6hs91vs5n4i6iqbkb...@4ax.com:
snip
>>> Sure, lets mention it.
>>>
>>> But first please let me know what you know about he creation of the
>>> State of Israel by the UN. Where, exactly, did the land come from.?
>>> Who had homes, farms and families there for centuries prior to the
>>> land being awarded to Israel? Where did the previous occupants go
>>> after they left their homes? Were they happy about it? Would you
>>> be?
>>>
>>
>>Somewhat superficial knowlege there.
>>
>>Ever hear of TransJordan???
>>
>>Who holds most of the original mandate???
>>
>>Ever hear of "Black September"?
>>
>>Chuck
>
> No answers I notice.
>
> NST
>
Exactly, no answers....from you. You don't know near what you think you
know about this problem. And I don't even pretend to be a ME expert.
Of course, it does seem to be a liberal affliction to go by their
emotions and just the very superficial than deeper facts.
Allan Mayer
writes:
>Actually, I am not aware of any of the above going on where I live or
>anywhere near. OK... there was some of that in the country that
>borders us to the south, but that was a long time ago and best
>forgotten.
Are you for real ????
Last post aimed at me, you went back 2,000 years, but all
of a sudden, you have a hard time looking at events that
happened within the last 100 years, quite a few of them while
you were alive. Why do you engage in this foolhardy line of thought ??
You cant go back that far with the middle east,and so quickly
overlook and FORGET what happened in your own backyard !!
Amazing that you actually used the word forgotten when talking
about european genocide, and yet feel soo strongly at *jewish
oppression* in the middle east.
You sure that you really are not racist ???
So the point with you liberal appeasers is that one can only use the
facts when it fit's their own version of history...
Lets really go back shall we ?? There is almost 5,000 years of
written human history. Interesting (and depressing) is that the vast
majority of it, is records of mans struggle with other men, and his
conquest with controlling nature.
But the reality of this, is that it is mankinds unfortunate heritage
to engage in "wars" with other men. It's what we do best. And it
is what was necessary for human survival.
What Is necessary now. is that the *powers that be* in this world
now, do whatever it takes to controll the small "crimminal" element,
that has always existed, and always will.
There is far more destructive power in mans hands now, with far
more ability to destroy man, and nature. As such it becomes all more
imperative that the crimminal element be sought out, and destroyed.
The war on terrorism is going to be the major battle of the 21st century.
And it will go on past that, as new crimminals are being born every
day. These are people who rather than apply motivation, and hard
work to get ahead in life, use guile, and cunning, and theft, murder,
etc.. to get what they want. (controll over others, pure and simple)
And these *people* will use any means of protraying themselves as
oppressed, and treated unfairly by the world.
Which is why I have such a hard time with liberal appeasers.
It's almost like you feel sorry for people like this, and have the
attitude of "just leave the poor guy alone" And are perfectly
willing to let them do whatever they want, while the crimminals
are building their strength, and biding their time. (Iraq, NK ?? )
Also the liberal belief that the powerfull citizens, governments
of the world should just up, and take care of all the weak, and poor
in the world, and believe that everyone is truely equal, and deserves
an equal share of lifes good fortunes. Which goes against all of what
written history teaches us !!
The true reality is that we all are NOT born equal !!! Some are stronger,
and more healthy thatn others, some are far smarter than others.
Some are born where there is great personal freedom, others are
born in slavery to whomever has the weapons. Some will always have
wealth, others will not... This is just the way life has been, and
will be. It's what makes us so different, and each one of us unique !
In almost all your posts, you focus on what you feel is so bad in the
USA, and how bad we are on the world scene. Yet, you are only
showing how biased, and now how racist you are !!
The nature of your poasts only proves just how racist you are, when
you want to convienantly overlook european genocide, yet hammer
away at hate crimes in the US. (yes they happen in your country too)
And in particular, you support of the plaistinians, and hate of Israel
which really proves my point !!
Why do you hate the Jewish State soo much ??
Allan Mayer
writes:
>The demonizing that you, pd and the rest of this slathering bunch do
>about Arabs is NO DIFFERENT that the way YOU ARE PORTRAYED
>THERE! You are NO BETTER THAN THEM.
Uh ... back the truth trolly up for a minute !!
When have you ever see me use the terms here that others have ?
I am against terrorists, and crimminals everywhere !! (just like they are)
But I make no racist overtones, and slurs. (Hmmm ... you have shown
yourself to be racist already, read your own words !!)
Besides being a liar (by your above statement aimed at myself)
you are stereotyping us, at the same time telling us how bad we
are for doing it to them !!
You are a hypocrite !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(besides being a liar !!)
You really want to prusue this thread ?? Seriously ??
You will only make yourself look WORSE !!
PAP...@your.moma.com
kicking people when they are down....absolutely love it.
>Peacenik talk? Just because I want to see some proof, not just empty
>claims, before thousands of people are killed? Ok... then I am a
>Peacenik.
You dont want proof because its already been offered. No proof will
ever be enough.
>Show me some proof.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/shows/saddam/transcript.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-353672,00.html
http://www.intelmessages.org/Hack/ZKZ_Osama_and_Saddam_002.html
http://www.aei.org/shop1/shops/1/4127-2qas.htm
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-mylroie052902.asp
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/iraq/956-tni.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2002/01-28-2002/vo18no02_okc.htm
http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/wwwboard/messages/834.html
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/mcveigh/part07.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4637/terr26a.html
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.htm
> Bush can't.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/book.html
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020912-1.html
>The CIA can't.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.htm
>The UN Inspection teams can't.
The UN is making so much money right now with that Oil for Food
program that their hands are covered in blood. I wouldnt expect them
to certify that the Iraqis have WMD's. The only reason they are there
at all is the US Pressure.
>Have you got it?
Well this is by no means the complete list but its a good start. My
Computer is down with all my links...you have fun till then. I dont
expect you to think that this qualifies as evidence but its fun
watching your excuses why its not.
PAPA DOC
>>
>>Rob
>>
>>
rob
In future I will eliminate the potential from very real potential threat
Rob
NST
>In article <7hl91vkut8iss93v7...@4ax.com>, NST <no...@all.com>
>writes:
>
>>Actually, I am not aware of any of the above going on where I live or
>>anywhere near. OK... there was some of that in the country that
>>borders us to the south, but that was a long time ago and best
>>forgotten.
>
>Are you for real ????
>
>Last post aimed at me, you went back 2,000 years, but all
>of a sudden, you have a hard time looking at events that
>happened within the last 100 years, quite a few of them while
>you were alive. Why do you engage in this foolhardy line of thought ??
>You cant go back that far with the middle east,and so quickly
>overlook and FORGET what happened in your own backyard !!
(Hands up everyone who saw this next part coming…)
Yes. I am for real.
What I am *not* is European. I am Canadian.
So you see the ethnic cleansing that I was talking about being
committed by the country "to the south" was that of the Native
American population by YOUR ancestors.
I haven't forgotten anything that happened in my backyard... but it
seems you have.
You seem to have forgotten the massacre of the indigenous population
by your settlers, the use of biological weapons against Native
Americans and the outright theft of their land.
You also seem to have forgotten the bounties on Native scalps placed
in effect by your Government, the use of the "Conquest Theory", the
Indian Removal Act of 1830, the eviction of the Cherokee in 1938, and
the sterilization of Native American women in Claremont, Oklahoma in
the mid 1970's. And if you want to indulge your fascination with
mass graves might I suggest a trip to Wounded Knee, SD?
Funny how these are all things you accuse "eurotrashian"s of doing!
You ignorant, arrogant, uneducated ass. You sit there, smug and self
satisfied, looking down your nose while pointing an accusatory finger
at the rest of the world when your country is no better than anywhere
else. Your history is replete with examples of the complete catalogue
of horrors that you self-righteously accuse the rest of the world of
committing, but your convenient memory chooses to ignore that. Yet you
would presume to lecture the rest of the world on morality?
And it wasn't legitimate war against the Native American population,
it was ethnic cleansing. But just in case you feel like disagreeing
you should check out the statement made by the head of the Bureau of
Indian Affairs in September of 1980 wherein your government formally
apologized for the agency's participation in the "ethnic cleansing" of
Western tribes. Your government's words... not mine. Your history...
not mine.
NST
Chuck C.
Everyones been conquered by someone, how far back you wanna go???? And all
those contributions to civilization by the Canadians, whooo...hoooo....
Chuck
P.S. You think all those white folks in Canada are natives??? You think
the British empire has a "pure" history during the height of Imperialism?
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
feel your pain, helll I AM your pain...ooooh ooooh.
>What I am *not* is European. I am Canadian.
Your attitude would fit into either side of the Atlantic and who can
be bothered with looking up where you are from....worthless bag of
bones. Your appeasing "All of us are evil, we are all equal" moral
equivilancy bullshit wears just as well on both sides of the Atlantic
and leads to exactly what happened in Europe in the 30's everyone
sitting around fooling themselves.
>So you see the ethnic cleansing that I was talking about being
>committed by the country "to the south" was that of the Native
>American population by YOUR ancestors.
hehe..Not by mine asswipe, none of mine were here. But I will alert
the wifey to her guilt...Im sure she will be thrilled to know that she
is guilty of crimes of over 100 years ago.
>I haven't forgotten anything that happened in my backyard... but it
>seems you have.
Not much happens in your backyard, who in their right mind lives on an
icecube.
>You seem to have forgotten the massacre of the indigenous population
>by your settlers, the use of biological weapons against Native
>Americans and the outright theft of their land.
Each and every day I wake up and ask for atonement....I want to be
just like the Europeans and have fights that last for a 1,000 years.
Im sooo guilty, oooh.
>You also seem to have forgotten the bounties on Native scalps placed
>in effect by your Government, the use of the "Conquest Theory", the
>Indian Removal Act of 1830, the eviction of the Cherokee in 1938, and
>the sterilization of Native American women in Claremont, Oklahoma in
>the mid 1970's. And if you want to indulge your fascination with
>mass graves might I suggest a trip to Wounded Knee, SD?
Wow just like that website of yours start with a bit of truth shameful
as it is and move right into fantasy. Neat trick...
>Funny how these are all things you accuse "eurotrashian"s of doing!
No doubt that the treatment of the indians was shameful...but were all
of us to be paralyzed by our distant past then no one could protect
themselves. We would all be paralyzed with guilt. Sorry that is dumber
than you.
>You ignorant, arrogant, uneducated ass. You sit there, smug and self
>satisfied, looking down your nose while pointing an accusatory finger
>at the rest of the world when your country is no better than anywhere
>else.
hehe...Ahh now we get to the meat of the Moral Equivilancy argument.
We are all equally guilty and so not one of us may raise our hand in
our own defense...muahaha.
>Your history is replete with examples of the complete catalogue
>of horrors that you self-righteously accuse the rest of the world of
>committing, but your convenient memory chooses to ignore that. Yet you
>would presume to lecture the rest of the world on morality?
Yup certainly do, because you know what, while we certainly have done
some horrible things in the past, even we are far surpassed by the
rest of the world. We cannot equal Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, try as
we might, we cannot equal Saddam, Nassar, Arafat, Mullah Omar,
Khomeni, Idi Amin, Various dictators of Sudan where slavery thrives.
While we have done some terrible things that we have tried to atone
for we have also done marvelous things that no one else could
have....or more correctly would have.
>NST
PAPA DOC
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/33/news-crogan.php
http://www.ileagles.net/binladen.htm
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_hr/020602transcript.html
George Tenet speaking:
And the Iraqi piece, as I referenced, you know, the WMD
profile I gave you and my interest in being very careful about
was there a convergence of interest here between al-Qa'ida and
the Iraqis, don't know the answer to the question yet--pursuing
it very, very carefully. There was a press story today that
said CIA dismisses these linkages.
Well, you don't dismiss linkages when you have a group like
al-Qa'ida who probably buys and sells all kinds of capabilities
for people who have converging interests, whether Sunni or
Shi'a, and how they mixed and matched training capabilities,
safe harboring, and money is something we're taking a look at.
So nobody dismisses anything. Everybody's on the table, and
these networks of terrorism should no longer be thought about
purely in terms of the state's interests, what they say
publicly, what their obvious interests are and how they see the
benefit in hurting the United States.
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One of the main reasons for not outlining clearly what Saddams WMD
plans are is that would tell him what we know. Looking ahead when this
started shaking out Im fairly certain that a few very smart people
could see where this was going....forcing Saddam to allow inspectors
back in....knowing that it would have been foolhardy beyond redemption
to tell him what we know. Had we done that, ie provided evidence for
those like NST who wont ever accept any evidence anyway, we would have
wasted leverage on people who dont count....and we would have allowed
Saddam to destroy that evidence long before the inspectors got there.
As it is now he has zero clue about what we know, he has zero clue
about what he can lie about and what he CANNOT lie about because he
doesnt know what evidence we have. Thats why that Declaration was so
important....this boxed him in a corner.
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consider that he is actually moderating what most Americans would feel
would be the appropiate response.
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http://www.instapundit.com/archives/005693.php#005693
Dear Osama:
Why do we hate you? Because you killed 3,000 Americans and want to
kill more. And when you kill Americans, you're dead meat -- and so is
anyone who helps you, and maybe anyone who sympathizes too loudly. The
question now isn't whether you will win. It's whether the Bush
Administration will succeed in disposing of you and your cause before
you provoke a response that will cause Arab civilization, such as it
is, to join the Aztecs, the Carthaginians, and others who overplayed
their brutal hand against a superior foe.
A bit shorter than Osama's, but then my grievance is simpler.
UPDATE: Mark Kleiman writes to ask if I'm endorsing genocide. No. It's
what I hope to prevent, as I made clear in an earlier post. But I do
view genocide, or at least the destruction of Arab civilization (if
not its people) as the inevitable result of Ladenite efforts to
escalate and inflame the conflict unless the United States manages to
win an early victory. If it's "war to the knife," well, there's only
one likely outcome.
rob
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> And even more proof...hehe.
>
> One of the main reasons for not outlining clearly what Saddams WMD
> plans are is that would tell him what we know. Looking ahead when this
> started shaking out Im fairly certain that a few very smart people
> could see where this was going....forcing Saddam to allow inspectors
> back in....knowing that it would have been foolhardy beyond redemption
> to tell him what we know. Had we done that, ie provided evidence for
> those like NST who wont ever accept any evidence anyway, we would have
> wasted leverage on people who dont count....and we would have allowed
> Saddam to destroy that evidence long before the inspectors got there.
> As it is now he has zero clue about what we know, he has zero clue
> about what he can lie about and what he CANNOT lie about because he
> doesnt know what evidence we have. Thats why that Declaration was so
> important....this boxed him in a corner.
>
> PAPA DOC
I think you are bang on there
Although I have wondered why, since the declaration, the inspection teams
haven't been getting a quiet whisper in their ear to check out such and such
a place.
It would be a great chance to show Saddam up
Maybe after the next report
Rob
Chuck C.
news:t1wR9.9485$F63.1...@news.xtra.co.nz:
snip
>
> I think you are bang on there
> Although I have wondered why, since the declaration, the inspection
> teams haven't been getting a quiet whisper in their ear to check out
> such and such a place.
> It would be a great chance to show Saddam up
> Maybe after the next report
>
> Rob
>
>
>
Maybe they're waiting 'til all the pieces are in place??
Chuck
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>> I think you are bang on there
>> Although I have wondered why, since the declaration, the inspection
>> teams haven't been getting a quiet whisper in their ear to check out
>> such and such a place.
>> It would be a great chance to show Saddam up
>> Maybe after the next report
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>
>Maybe they're waiting 'til all the pieces are in place??
>
>Chuck
First off the Inspection teams are completely useless to find weapons
in a country that doesnt want to co-operate. Everyone knows
this...including Bush. He is using them to appease the rest of the
world.
There are alot of tensions in that group, you have the overall UN,
which is making tons of money on the Food For Oil program, which would
prefer NOT to see Saddam deposed. You have the individual countries on
the Security Council who have enormous contracts and valuable contacts
within the present Iraqis regime, the French who have a knack for
making money helping countries achieve Nuclear status, the Russians
who are owed a great deal of money by Saddam and who also may enjoy
the destabilization that the Iraqis foster in the ME. Lots of people
who have no reason to see Saddam leave because they DONT believe he
will target them. Surely they understand he is targeting us but hey
thats our problem. They FAIL to understand what happens if we suffer
another terrible attack, I dont think anyone understands that
including us. Its worth talking about dont you think but no one
is...even though everyone agrees its gonna happen.
For the inspection teams, consider Scott Ritter and what a traitor he
has become, if there are others on the inspection teams like him then
alerting the teams would be just like alerting Saddam. Scott Ritter
has a vested interest in no weapons being found, I realize he isnt on
the teams anymore but what if others share his beliefs on the teams.
Would that explain the 90minute search of that Presidential facility?
A good police search of my small 1500 square foot house would take
longer than 90minutes and yet a facility as large as that is seached
in less than 90 minutes.
So it appears that what you have is an orginization that is determined
to go thru the motions because they still cling to the hope that Bush
is like every other politician, he only wants to LOOK like he is
fighting terroism. My belief is they are dead wrong, my belief is he
was well and truly affected by 9/11 in ways even we dont understand
though it affected us in similar ways. Understand several things,
Laura was in Washington DC on 9/11 she was targeted as a result of
being in the White House which was a target, he from all appearances
loves her deeply, his father WAS targeted by Saddam himself from all
appearance the President hasnt forgotten, he is from all appearances a
man of his word thats an exceptional quality these days. He has stated
that he is gonna go after every country that harbored and gave money
to terrorists unless they renounce such behavior. He meant it...thats
revolutionary.
The UN thinks that going thru the motions will allow Bush to say to
the American Public that we went and looked and didnt find anything,
everything is ok here move along, Because thats what every other
politician would be wanting the UN to do...they dont understand that
Bush actually wants to do his best to stop it. Why..?
Self interest as I have pointed out but also probably the knowledge of
what will happen if we are attacked in a much more horrible fashion
next time. Imagine what will be the response if we are successfully
attacked with a Nuclear Weapon in say St.Louis...? Why not New York
you say..? I believe that an attack in a smaller City will introduce
the factor of terrifying fear to the rest of the nation. At that point
no one will feel safe in any city, possible panic, expecially if a
message comes out that other weapons are in place ready to be
detonated. At that point our reaction may well be the end of Arab
civilization and quite possibly a couple or more other civilizations.
We still have a incedibly massive strike capability and I doubt that
Bush would be able to convince the American public NOT to demand
this...were he to try we might see chaos and a possible coup. This is
what convinces me that another attack is certainly gonna happen, the
Towel Headed Murdering Islamists have a chance to achieve their goals,
we do have a weakness.
Thats why any nation that appears to support them must be immediatly
brought down, why any nation not with us is against us, The stakes are
alot higher than anyone ever imagined they could be...and probably
higher than anyone realizes even now. Bush must be able to confront a
panicked terrified nation when the next attack occurs and say that we
are doing everything we can. And they must be able to believe him.
Sorry for the length and the severe lack of editing...hehe.
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> For papduck.
>
> A Pop Quiz on the Middle East
> CHARLEY REESE
>
> ...............
> Q: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard,
> then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that
> the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?
> A: Israel.
>
> Q: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in
> the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of
> Washington insiders?
> A: Israel.
>
> Q: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United
> Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29
> more by U.S. vetoes?
> A: Israel.
>
> Q: What country is the United States threatening to bomb because "U.N.
> Security Council resolutions must be obeyed?"
> A: Iraq.
Q: What is the only country in the Middle East where Muslim Arabs have
the right to vote in free and democratic elections?
A: Israel
;)
rob
how much. This war on terrorism is as much a war aganist an ideology as Al
Qaeda.
Todays terrorists are not motivated by policy, rather a primal rage aganist
the modern world and although their resources are pathetic compared to that
of all the countries working aganist them it should be remembered that
terrorists only have get lucky 1% of the time.
And how do we deter people who want to die anyway?
The answer I think, is to give them a reason to live. I have travelled
through a lot of 3rd world countries and mid east and the one thing a lot of
these people were without was hope. Imagine how you would feel, if your
life was spent slopping around in paddy feilds or tending your two dozen
goats and somebody comes and tells you that if you join them your life might
mean something.
What these countries need is leadership, people in charge who actually care
for the people instead of gold plated toilet seats. And if we in the
developed world have to give it to them, then maybe it is in our best
interest to do so. I am talking about nation building, creating proper
governments, training police, building industries and infastucure. Maybe
the west needs to lose the subsides and tariffs, I would rather be a bit
poorer than dead. What we have to do is make it so potential terrorists are
more worried what brand DVD player to buy than where the next batch of
semtex is coming from. Its going to be rough, people are going to die, but
we mustn't say 'nah fuckit, too hard'.
If we think things are bad now, just imagine what it will be like when the
oil runs out.
Al Qaeda will be destroyed, but another group will just take over its place,
and it will have learned from Al Qaeda's mistakes and be a lot tougher to
knock down. We have to fight terror in its recruiting grounds as well
because if we dont they will always be there, growing more dangerous by the
day. Governments that are seen to support terror should be destroyed, no
question, they are the logical place to start. But I think we are in for a
long drawn out and completly new type of war.
The US is the main target in this one, but things like the Bali bomb should
serve as a warning to the rest of the world that we are all on their list.
And if the US is seen as too hard, they may be looking for softer targets.
Rob
ps I didnt snip pds post on purpose, it deserves reading twice
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religion.....the mullahs tell them that they are poor and we are rich
because they have strayed from Allah and that to get back in good
graces with his magnificance they have to strictly follow the mullahs
teaching. This is a HUGE barrier to reason with them, since obviously
reason has little affect in matters of fundementalist faith. The
mullahs blame everything on outside influence its either the Jews or
the Americans that are the cause of all evil. This is why there will
never be peace with Israel....and why nation building with them will
never work. We have to defang the religous zealots.
One way to do that immediatly is to defeat them on the battlefield,
crush them and their leaders, make it obvious that God does not favor
them. The experience of the last 30 years has shown them that we will
back down, that their GOD will give them Victories.
The next way which must follow the crushing defeats is to work for
change in their forms of government. We must find some way to
secularize their governments and introduce capitalism. Without freedom
of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of press, the right to
assembly, a fair justice system, rational democratic government we
will be facing them for a long time.
>Todays terrorists are not motivated by policy, rather a primal rage aganist
>the modern world and although their resources are pathetic compared to that
>of all the countries working aganist them it should be remembered that
>terrorists only have get lucky 1% of the time.
Dont underestimate their resources...sure they have some definite
lacks but they also have some undeniable strengths. Tight
orginizations, well defined goals, and one of the biggest if not the
biggest advantage, we dont know where they are and they know EXACTLY
where we are. Thats huge.
>And how do we deter people who want to die anyway?
Their leaders dont want to die, and on top of that it looks bad to the
troops below for the leaders to die. Those letters and supposed tapes
of Bin Laden werent really for our consumption but for their troops
and supporters consumption. Bin Laden has acheived mythic status
amonst them for being unkillable. It appears that we have killed him,
their orginization is struggling to make it appear that we didnt.
Reason being is it appears that GOD doesnt favor them if the "chosen
one" gets killed hiding in a Cave.
>The answer I think, is to give them a reason to live. I have travelled
>through a lot of 3rd world countries and mid east and the one thing a lot of
>these people were without was hope. Imagine how you would feel, if your
>life was spent slopping around in paddy feilds or tending your two dozen
>goats and somebody comes and tells you that if you join them your life might
>mean something.
Remember we arent being attacked by poor people. None of the Towel
Headed Murdering Islamist Fanatics were poor, all of them were upper
middle class or better, all well educated and all terribly murderous.
While I agree that we must nation build we shouldnt lose sight of who
is actually fighting us. Bin Laden is a wealthy meglomaniac who
believes he has been chosen to unite the ME under a single Leader.
Saddam is wealthy beyond belief.
>If we think things are bad now, just imagine what it will be like when the
>oil runs out.
They need to lose religion as a part of government, its never worked
in the past and there is no reason for it to work now. The key is how
to get that to happen. We can spend all the money we want trying to
force it to happen and it wont, we must foster that sort of thing.
Ironically in Iran just that sort of movement is happening....the
religous zealots are losing their status and losing the abilities to
control the population. We must not interfer except to support them
with financial and moral support. Even that may not be
appreicated....after all I dont accept charity very well....do you?
>The US is the main target in this one, but things like the Bali bomb should
>serve as a warning to the rest of the world that we are all on their list.
>And if the US is seen as too hard, they may be looking for softer targets.
>
>Rob
>
>ps I didnt snip pds post on purpose, it deserves reading twice
Thanks...
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rob
"Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand" <pleg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The problem we have with the islamist fanatics is one of
> religion.....the mullahs tell them that they are poor and we are rich
> because they have strayed from Allah and that to get back in good
> graces with his magnificance they have to strictly follow the mullahs
> teaching. This is a HUGE barrier to reason with them, since obviously
> reason has little affect in matters of fundementalist faith. The
> mullahs blame everything on outside influence its either the Jews or
> the Americans that are the cause of all evil. This is why there will
> never be peace with Israel....and why nation building with them will
> never work. We have to defang the religous zealots.
Agreed on the defanging, but by nation building we can take away a lot of
the zealots influence
I could be wrong, but I see a lot of similarities to Hitlers rise.
The west has to prove to the terrorists recruiting base that there is a
better way
> One way to do that immediatly is to defeat them on the battlefield,
> crush them and their leaders, make it obvious that God does not favor
> them. The experience of the last 30 years has shown them that we will
> back down, that their GOD will give them Victories.
Agreed, but I worry that if we do this without nation building we could be
making the problem worse. What I think is required is what is being
attempted in Afghanistan but on a larger scale.
And we cant just walk away if it gets too hard
> The next way which must follow the crushing defeats is to work for
> change in their forms of government. We must find some way to
> secularize their governments and introduce capitalism. Without freedom
> of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of press, the right to
> assembly, a fair justice system, rational democratic government we
> will be facing them for a long time.
My point exactly
> >Todays terrorists are not motivated by policy, rather a primal rage
aganist
> >the modern world and although their resources are pathetic compared to
that
> >of all the countries working aganist them it should be remembered that
> >terrorists only have get lucky 1% of the time.
>
> Dont underestimate their resources...sure they have some definite
> lacks but they also have some undeniable strengths. Tight
> orginizations, well defined goals, and one of the biggest if not the
> biggest advantage, we dont know where they are and they know EXACTLY
> where we are. Thats huge.
What about their biggest advantage being unpredictablity? How many people
expected a Sept 11 type attack. The Intel networks are always going to have
to be one step ahead
Not at all. But the West has to do something, we cant afford to just sit
back and hope they figure it out by themselves
> >The US is the main target in this one, but things like the Bali bomb
should
> >serve as a warning to the rest of the world that we are all on their
list.
> >And if the US is seen as too hard, they may be looking for softer
targets.
>
> PAPA DOC
btw I forwarded your links to a rather NST sounding sunday reporter, hes
mailed me back with the editors private email thanking me, claiming he had
no idea of the amount of evidence!!?!! and asking I send a summary to the
editor.... I will keep you posted (pun intended)
Rob
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
if they put their heads in the sand the bad men with the Towels On
their Heads will leave them alone.
You and I and a vanishingly small minority know this isnt true. The
bad men want us dead....or converted.
rob
Its a lot harder posting back to someone you agree with, where are all the
peaceniks gone?
Apologies for my earlier rant, just putting thoughts on ether
Rob
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dont even have my computer up yet...dead Motherboard due to Operator
Idiocy.
http://edwardjayepstein.com/2002question/salmanpak.htm
Sort of pissed about the above story because I used to have a link to
the actual photo of the Jet.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2001/stirevnws01015.htm
http://www.nci.org/02NCI/11/IraqNuclearThreat.htm
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2002/16118.htm
http://www.nci.org/s/sad-new-bomb-st-122400.htm
Scuse me while I post these links...want to keep them in a safe place.
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with not enough time on my hands people around who agree on the big
points that I can discuss things with in person. I have the makings
of a pretty good book in my head and am dying to get it down.
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the Press or by fellows inside the Government who oppose linkage.
These stories revolve around the Meeting in Prague between Atta and
Iraqis Secret Service.
http://www.praguepost.com/P02/2002/20605/news1a.php
http://multimedia.belointeractive.com/attack/investigation/1217atta.html
http://edwardjayepstein.com/2002question/prague.htm
http://www.radio.cz/en/article/11096http://www.radio.cz/en/article/11096
http://www.meib.org/articles/0110_ir1.htm
Fun facts about Oklahoma
http://www.phillytalkradioonline.com/davis/crogan2.html
hehe...No linkage indeed...no desire to link more likely.
http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/02041808.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29927
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PS Again forgive the constant linkage but its important.
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Intelligence knew of the linkage between Saddam and Osama. Furthermore
remember that Ambassador to Turkey will meet later on with Atta in
Prague.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,314700,00.html
dated 1999 which gives lie to all of this being Bush's imagination.
================================================
Saddam Hussein's regime has opened talks with Osama bin Laden,
bringing closer the threat of a terrorist attack using chemical,
biological or nuclear weapons, according to US intelligence sources
and Iraqi opposition officials.
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Chuck C.
4ax.com:
>
>>> I think you are bang on there
>>> Although I have wondered why, since the declaration, the inspection
>>> teams haven't been getting a quiet whisper in their ear to check out
>>> such and such a place.
>>> It would be a great chance to show Saddam up
>>> Maybe after the next report
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Maybe they're waiting 'til all the pieces are in place??
>>
>>Chuck
>
> First off the Inspection teams are completely useless to find weapons
> in a country that doesnt want to co-operate. Everyone knows
> this...including Bush. He is using them to appease the rest of the
> world.
>
snip
PD,
I don't disagree with any of that. I'm just saying that once the assets
are in place, I won't be suprised if there's a "gotcha" moment. Not
saying I think thats necessary for us to act though.
Vern Pellerin
>>If we think things are bad now, just imagine what it will be like when the
>>oil runs out.
>
>They need to lose religion as a part of government, its never worked
>in the past and there is no reason for it to work now. The key is how
>to get that to happen. We can spend all the money we want trying to
>force it to happen and it wont, we must foster that sort of thing.
>Ironically in Iran just that sort of movement is happening....the
>religous zealots are losing their status and losing the abilities to
>control the population. We must not interfer except to support them
>with financial and moral support. Even that may not be
>appreicated....after all I dont accept charity very well....do you?
>
>
>>The US is the main target in this one, but things like the Bali bomb should
>>serve as a warning to the rest of the world that we are all on their list.
>>And if the US is seen as too hard, they may be looking for softer targets.
>>
>>Rob
>>
>>ps I didnt snip pds post on purpose, it deserves reading twice
>
>Thanks...
>
>PAPA DOC
I had to snip the post for brievity here, but the last few posts by you, Doc,
have been spectacular. I agree with what you've said to the letter.
Sometimes you shorten the arguments to focus on a specific point (or points)
or to really slam the hell out of someone, but when you take the time to write
long posts about the middle east problems, you really cover the gamit of
problems quite thoroughly.
Most here just complain about you tearing people a new asshole, but I think
they should give you credit for showing that you've got a damn good grasp on
the big picture too. And these long posts much more clearly show that you're
NOT predjudiced against all middle eastern people in spite of your use of the
phrase "towel head". I do think using that phrase is pushing the boundaries,
but you seem to argue your points a hundred times better than I do, and you're
much more knowledgable on events and history, so who am I to criticise?
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President to further the aims of the US. Thats fine by me...lord knows
we foot the bill for nearly everything that happens with the UN and we
get the honor of being vilified by it. Neato...hehe.
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I agree that its easy to misunderstand my use of Towel Headed
Murdering Fanatics, but when I complained as a child about the
unnessary use of big words <VBG> my teacher told me it was my problem
to understand them not hers to not use them. I believe this is the
case with my use of Towel Headed Murderers...it also serves to bring
the hypocrits out.
The weakness is that people can try to say as NST did that what I
really mean is all Arabs and then time is wasted defending from that
charge.
Im not sure how I will handle that but I sure would miss calling those
fuckers what they are...
PAP...@your.moma.com
later reported by the Czech Secret Service to have met with Atta, at
the Iraqis Embassy. Nah no connection there...nothing to see here
folks just move along.
hehe...hey where did NST run off too....????
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rob
back to the 1987 Rugby World Cup and world events is who has qualified for
the next one. I never thought I would say it, but sometimes I miss
school..........well, pissing off the history teacher anyway.
Rob
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I'm going to have to use them search engine thingys proper
Rob
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Dr Oddness Killtroll
;)
DrOk
Dusty Rhodes
and spoke volumes, but you know as well as I do, that the thick headed ones
are too idealistic and too full of blame to just let it go. More likely
they went away for the weekend or so and will be right back, apeasing and
making excuses and using examples that prove the case more then it proves
what they are trying to say, which they don't know what they are trying to
say because they really don't believe in anything, and.......... oh never
mind you get the picture.
Dusty Rhodes
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winning....thats it Im picking a subject I know I will lose at next
time.
Modesty...hehe
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getting sort of pissed off at the US government for being so asleep at
the wheel....now Jayna Davis has been silenced by a lawsuit...she
should write a book. And have a bunch of research I need to do into
the Miltia's in the US. They have dovetailing hatreds and interests
with the Towel Headed Murdering ones.
There just isnt any excuse for not knowing what is happening...the
time for sitting around on our asses letting others do the heavy
lifting is done. You and Dusty did your duty and I dumbly did not
enter the service.....dad tried his best but what can you say. Anyways
this is my feeble attempt to make up for not serving my country. No
not the usenet thing, whats coming up. I hope it works out the way I
envision it.
Thanks to you and Dusty and those who have served and are serving. And
yes I know that it must be wierd for someone to say that because
everytime I do everyone scatters <VBG> nevertheless. Thanks.
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I was taunting 'em....
;)
DrOk
Michael Gilmore
>hehe...I get so bored...I always win...its tiring always
>winning....thats it Im picking a subject I know I will lose at next
>time.
>
>Modesty...hehe
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>PAPA DOC
Papa, you think you win because you shout the loudest, then you are very wrong.
Never mind modesty, you are just a poor deluded fool.
PAP...@your.moma.com
like you give to my posts. You need to go and evolve for a few more
thousand years then maybe you can debate your betters.
Chuck C.
Spoken like a pussy who started this crap thread then slinks away when
rebuttals come.
Allan Mayer
<whis...@hotmail.com> writes:
>Never mind modesty, you are just a poor deluded fool.
Considering the crap you post, just what exactly does that make
you ?? (besides the low life, low class whimp that you are...)
Allan
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