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David Springthorpe

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Feb 16, 2003, 8:32:20 PM2/16/03
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Someone sent me a link for the Aussie alpine bushfires, and this was
linked from it :
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3

David,
Sydney NSW

the kiwi @snap.net.nz Mike the Kiwi

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Feb 17, 2003, 1:46:12 AM2/17/03
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Good pic, I can see my place and me shaggin my g/f in the back yard ...lol


"David Springthorpe" <david.spr...@idx.com.au> wrote in message news:12fb615f.03021...@posting.google.com...

David Springthorpe

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Feb 17, 2003, 6:19:13 AM2/17/03
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"Mike the Kiwi" <mike the kiwi @ snap. net. nz> wrote in message news:<10454643...@kyle.snap.net.nz>...

> Good pic, I can see my place and me shaggin my g/f in the back yard ...lol

Yeahhhhh, right....

Can someone please tell me why Lake Ellesmere (I checked my map) is
green (passed by it only once about 10 years ago on a tourist jaunt to
Akaroa).....?

DS
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the kiwi @snap.net.nz Mike the Kiwi

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Feb 17, 2003, 10:26:15 AM2/17/03
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"David Springthorpe" <david.spr...@idx.com.au> wrote in message news:12fb615f.03021...@posting.google.com...
Hi David, can you post that link to the Aussie bushfires please.

Ta, Mike the Kiwi


IRO

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Feb 17, 2003, 3:34:03 PM2/17/03
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In article <12fb615f.0302...@posting.google.com>,
david.spr...@idx.com.au (David Springthorpe) wrote:

It may be a false colour created by the satellite cameras. Mind you,
Ellesmere does get pretty soupy at times, they may have caught it during
an algal bloom.

~Ian O

richard

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Feb 17, 2003, 3:40:58 PM2/17/03
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In article <12fb615f.0302...@posting.google.com>,
david.spr...@idx.com.au says...
Dunno, it always looks brown from ground level.
Maybe we are seeing straight through the water to the algae and mud on
the bottom (I've always been told that Lake Ellesmere has a maximum
depth of 2 metres)

David Springthorpe

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:32:03 PM2/17/03
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 04:26:15 +1300, "Mike the Kiwi" <mike the kiwi @ snap. net.
nz> wrote:

>Hi David, can you post that link to the Aussie bushfires please.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=10916

OFF TOPIC :
I don't understand how PHP works - actual ChCh photo full URL is
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=10923

When I copied and pasted my original (no image id specified) into my browser
just now, I got the Atlantic plankton photo (which has it's own image id) - can
any techies please explain.....?

Thanks,
DS

DS

David Springthorpe

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Feb 17, 2003, 9:52:08 PM2/17/03
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 01:32:03 GMT, david.spr...@idx.com.au (David
Springthorpe) wrote:

>OFF TOPIC :

>When I copied and pasted my original (no image id specified) into my browser
>just now, I got the Atlantic plankton photo (which has it's own image id) - can
>any techies please explain.....?

Which (Atlantic photo) I had previously acccessed as the full link.....

DS

DS

Craig Shore

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Feb 18, 2003, 3:36:26 AM2/18/03
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On 16 Feb 2003 17:32:20 -0800, david.spr...@idx.com.au (David
Springthorpe) wrote:

>Someone sent me a link for the Aussie alpine bushfires, and this was
>linked from it :
>http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3

Anyone know what those dark areas above the waimak on the left are
that look like roads with center lines. The bit above them looks like
something from the movie "signs" too :-)


T-Boy

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Feb 18, 2003, 6:29:46 AM2/18/03
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In article <3e51eff9...@news.paradise.net.nz>,
craig...@paradise.net.nz says...

It's called Eyrewell forest.

wtf did *you* think it was :)

--
Regards, Duncan.

Craig Shore

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Feb 18, 2003, 2:57:55 PM2/18/03
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Didn't have a clue. Still looks weird. What are all the white dots
(which would actually be quite big) in it?


T-Boy

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Feb 18, 2003, 6:44:51 PM2/18/03
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In article <3e528fd9....@news.paradise.net.nz>,
craig...@paradise.net.nz says...

I'd say those areas are the cleared ones - and the white "dots" are the
large turn around / clear areas for the big logging trucks. Or
possibly, they're the piles of wood. Given they're whiter than the
surround, I'd say it's clear area, hence my former assumption.

--
Regards, Duncan.

cobbler©

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Feb 18, 2003, 10:21:51 PM2/18/03
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:44:51 +1300, T-Boy <ha...@work.ok> wrote:
Why is some parts of the city have whiter parts to it ???
Cobbler ©

E-Mail:cob...@ihug.spam.co.nz
: Take out the " Spam " to reply

Sarns

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Feb 19, 2003, 1:39:34 AM2/19/03
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<Tan...@riverbend.com> wrote in message
news:XJhSPi3Aa+gguo...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:57:55 GMT, craig...@paradise.net.nz (Craig Shore)
> wrote:

[snip]

> >Didn't have a clue. Still looks weird. What are all the white dots
> >(which would actually be quite big) in it?
> >

> Painted apple moths

*GUFFFAWWWWWWWW*!!!!

Sarns


KewlKiwi

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Feb 19, 2003, 4:06:30 AM2/19/03
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:21:51 +1300, cobbler© <cob...@ihug.spam.co.nz> wrote:
> Why is some parts of the city have whiter parts to it ???

'Cause _some_ of us keep our houses and streets clean?


the kiwi @snap.net.nz Mike the Kiwi

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Feb 19, 2003, 5:31:43 AM2/19/03
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> Didn't have a clue. Still looks weird. What are all the white dots
> (which would actually be quite big) in it?

Crop Circles :)


David Springthorpe

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Feb 19, 2003, 6:54:11 PM2/19/03
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 01:32:03 GMT, david.spr...@idx.com.au (David
Springthorpe) wrote:

>When I copied and pasted my original (no image id specified) into my browser
>just now, I got the Atlantic plankton photo (which has it's own image id) - can
>any techies please explain.....?

No one's probably interested, but the answer might be that the short URL is for
the "image of the day".....

DS

Chris Wilkinson

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Feb 20, 2003, 2:31:52 AM2/20/03
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Hi there,

Not bad pic. I grabbed it, then used it as an image_map in POVray
raytracer. The end result looks like a photo taken from 50000 feet
above the Canterbury plains looking down at a 45 degree angle at
Chch. Cool!

I only mapped the image onto a flat object, then angled the camera
down to appear as though its a real location viewed from high above,
but if I could find geographic datasets for height (height-field,
terrain-map etc...) for the area I could render the whole shebang
in true-3D, and do animated flypasts etc...

Kind regards,

Chris Wilkinson, Middle Earth, New Zealand.

MICRO$LOTH FREE ZONE!

richard

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Feb 20, 2003, 2:59:09 PM2/20/03
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In article <6vt55vs9ath9rr82j...@4ax.com>,
cob...@ihug.spam.co.nz says...

> On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:44:51 +1300, T-Boy <ha...@work.ok> wrote:
> Why is some parts of the city have whiter parts to it ???

Commercial / industrial areas: Large span roofs which are consistently
galvanised, unpainted steel. You can easily pick out Bishopdale,
Northlands, the Palms, Riccarton etc.

David Springthorpe

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Feb 21, 2003, 12:13:00 AM2/21/03
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On 16 Feb 2003 17:32:20 -0800, david.spr...@idx.com.au (David
Springthorpe) wrote:

>Someone sent me a link for the Aussie alpine bushfires.....

I found this other NASA domain also from the Earth Observatory domain, where you
can do a search for images :

http://visibleearth.nasa.gov

DS

David Springthorpe

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Feb 21, 2003, 12:13:34 AM2/21/03
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:31:52 +1300, Chris Wilkinson <mrbl...@paradise.net.nz>
wrote:

>Not bad pic. I grabbed it, then used it as an image_map in POVray
>raytracer. The end result looks like a photo taken from 50000 feet
>above the Canterbury plains looking down at a 45 degree angle at
>Chch. Cool!
>
>I only mapped the image onto a flat object, then angled the camera
>down to appear as though its a real location viewed from high above,
>but if I could find geographic datasets for height (height-field,
>terrain-map etc...) for the area I could render the whole shebang
>in true-3D, and do animated flypasts etc...
>
>Kind regards,

Of course, if you want to see a picture of an even better city.....

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/sydney_AST2001oct12.jpg


DS

David Springthorpe

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Feb 21, 2003, 12:38:57 AM2/21/03
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 05:13:00 GMT, david.spr...@idx.com.au (David
Springthorpe) wrote:

>I found this other NASA domain also from the Earth Observatory domain, where you
>can do a search for images :
>
>http://visibleearth.nasa.gov

Some particularly nice ones here :

http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/Countries/New_Zealand/

DS

Craig Shore

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Feb 21, 2003, 3:49:37 AM2/21/03
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:31:52 +1300, Chris Wilkinson
<mrbl...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

There's data floating around the net for MS Flight Simulator. Can you
use that?

Chris Wilkinson

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Feb 22, 2003, 4:49:04 PM2/22/03
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Hi there,

Probably not. I checked out geographx.co.nz and found they had that
data, but the kind of data I'd require for POVray would be akin to
a greyscale elevation map, where the elevation is represented by the
greyscale colour value (black for low elevation, white for high etc...)

I did create a rather inaccurate elevation map by getting the height
of peaks from a NZ Atlas, chose the highest peak on the peninsula
(Mt Herbert, 920m) and drew a 92% grey blob where its peak was, then
drew blobs of varying %grey on all the noted peaks on the entire
peninsula (you're thinking I have too much spare time!) then blurred
the whole thing to create slope leading away from the peaks, played
with colour curves to get sharper peaks and smoother slope definition,
saved it as a PNG file, and used that in POVray to create the rough-as-guts
height field object. With the 2808x2808 resolution of the height-field,
and the 2808x2808 resolution of the image_map (converted from a 1.5MB
JPEG to a 17MB TGA image), POVray still manages to churn out a preview
(640x480, high quality) in less than 20 seconds all up (most of which
is in parsing/loading the maps). My desktop is 1600x1200, and that only
takes about a minute with full-scene anti-aliasing, mostly because
its only image/height_field mapping...

I'd like to get accurate Digital Elevation Maps though, since my map
isn't very accurate (too smooth, not enough detail on peaks/ridges
etc...)

richard

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Feb 22, 2003, 6:01:57 PM2/22/03
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In article <9iS5a.4523$324.8...@news02.tsnz.net>,
mrbl...@paradise.net.nz says...
Definitely too much spae time :-)
Do any of the various maps you can buy on CD-ROM now have a contour
layer? If that information was presented in some sort of vector format
it would give you easily manipulated data.
Otherwise, scan an old Lands and Survey map and see if you can tune some
tracing software to extract the contour lines from that.

BrentC

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Feb 22, 2003, 6:33:08 PM2/22/03
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250m DEM data for use in the latest 3D version of OziExplorer?

Expands to 170MB

http://macro.dingojunction.com/nev/nz250.zip - 7.8MB
You also need this file in the same folder
http://macro.dingojunction.com/nev/default.ozproj

.................

BrentC

BrentC

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Feb 22, 2003, 6:37:10 PM2/22/03
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:01:57 +1300, richard <news...@dramatic.co.nz>
wrote:

>In article <9iS5a.4523$324.8...@news02.tsnz.net>,
>mrbl...@paradise.net.nz says...
>

>> I'd like to get accurate Digital Elevation Maps though, since my map
>> isn't very accurate (too smooth, not enough detail on peaks/ridges
>> etc...)
>>
>Definitely too much spae time :-)
>Do any of the various maps you can buy on CD-ROM now have a contour
>layer? If that information was presented in some sort of vector format
>it would give you easily manipulated data.
>Otherwise, scan an old Lands and Survey map and see if you can tune some
>tracing software to extract the contour lines from that.


www.tumonz.co.nz

.................

BrentC

BrentC

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Feb 22, 2003, 6:38:18 PM2/22/03
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:01:57 +1300, richard <news...@dramatic.co.nz>
wrote:

>In article <9iS5a.4523$324.8...@news02.tsnz.net>,
>mrbl...@paradise.net.nz says...
>> Hi there,

>>

>Definitely too much spae time :-)
>Do any of the various maps you can buy on CD-ROM now have a contour
>layer? If that information was presented in some sort of vector format
>it would give you easily manipulated data.
>Otherwise, scan an old Lands and Survey map and see if you can tune some
>tracing software to extract the contour lines from that.

www.tumonz.co.nz

.................

BrentC

Chris Wilkinson

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Feb 23, 2003, 11:20:58 PM2/23/03
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Hi there,

BrentC wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:49:04 +1300, Chris Wilkinson
> <mrbl...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>I'd like to get accurate Digital Elevation Maps though, since my map
>>isn't very accurate (too smooth, not enough detail on peaks/ridges
>>etc...)
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>Chris Wilkinson, Middle Earth, New Zealand.
>>
>>MICRO$LOTH FREE ZONE!
>
> 250m DEM data for use in the latest 3D version of OziExplorer?
>
> Expands to 170MB

250m cell size is too big. I'm only mapping the banks peninsula
area, so I'll need 50m or 25m (highest possible) DEM. Geographx
guys can convert the data to the format I need, but I'm waiting
for a price for a 25m/50m DEM for the 50x40km area I require...

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