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Twistedhed

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Feb 5, 2003, 2:32:39 PM2/5/03
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From: Dave Hall <nojunkma...@worldlynx.net>
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Group: rec.radio.cb Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2001, 5:43am (EST+5) > From:
fesco...@home.com (fescomputer)
DO WHAT I DID AND GET THE LOCAL POLICE INVOLVED AND FILE A >
{DISTURBANCE OF THE PEACE} COMPLAINT. I DID AND THE PERSON > WAS FINED
$200.00 AND GIVEN A 30 DAY SUSPENDED SENTENCE. > SINCE THEN HE HAS DONE
IT 3 TIMES AND WE CALLED THE > PROSECUTOR AND HE FILED THE CHARGES AGAIN
FOR US. WE WENT > TO COURT AGAIN AND HE WAS FINED $100.00 AND MADE TO
SELL > HIS EQUIPMENT. HOW'S THAT FOR ACTION. MORAL OF THE STORY > IS
THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THIS KIND OF > INVASION OF YOUR
PRIVACY AND DISTURBANCE. YOU CAN PROBABLY > TRY ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT
THE OTHER GUYS ON HERE ARE > SUGGESTING, BUT MY GUESS IS THAT THEY WILL
NOT HELP AT > ALL. IN OUR CASE THE PERSON WAS BLEEDING INTO COMPUTER >
SPEAKERS AND THE PHONE LINES.
    You, my friend, are so full of it your eyes should be >
brown. I call
your bluff. If what you say happened really > did, tell us the town and
police agency involved so I can > confirm it. You won't 'cause it didn't
happen. Now begone > with your lies.
_
I had a similar situation happen to a friend of mine as well. He was
taken to court (and lost) on a charge of "disturbing the peace", which
resulted due to interference of a neighbor's stereo. It might have been
defendable, except for the fact that the neighbor had tapes of the
interference, and the fact that the defendant was using obscene
language, was enough to convict him.
Had the interference not been of an offensive nature, the case for
disturbing the peace could not have been made. In the court's eyes, this
case was no different than someone yelling obscentities at the top of
his lungs in the middle of the street at 2:00 am.
Dave
"Sandbagger"
__

On further questioning, N3CVJ sets forth from his Spew radio campaign:
This happened about 5 years ago, in suburban philadelphia. The person
accused, did not have the money to afford a lawyer, which is why, I'm
sure, that he lost. But the fact of the matter is
that it does not take a prosecution along illegal radio operation's
grounds, to take people to court over interference. Disturbing the
peace, public indecency (In the case of "foul" language) are some of the
more creative ways to get at the source of your interference.
Had it been me, the fact that I hold a ham license, and that I would
have had some counsel representing me, would have most likely have
resulted in the charges being dropped (That and the fact that I don't
use foul language over the radio to be taped). But other people aren't
so lucky.
Dave
"Sandbagger"

__


On being further pressed and questioned about his claim, N3CVJ responded
with:
And it was NOT in Philly. It was in a suburb of philly. BIG difference.
__
Sure is Davey,..such a big difference that you provided for both
scenarios, saying it took place in both locales. Thanks for pointing it
out. It was shortly after this exchange when your posts became full of
malice and personal, accusing me of being the man on the grassy knoll
and attempting to deflect any attention way from your drunken lies. You
posted them,,you were b-u-s-t-e-d on them,,now, for your own sanity,
move on from it and learn from your past mistakes. Take this opportunity
to not be so arrogant in the future and not to understimate the
intelligence of the group..see Davey,,the group doesn't need you to
explain your inconsistencies..they can see for themselves your actions
and words,,yet here you sit crying "Believe what I tell you, not what
you see".,and the failed attempts at perpetuating the lies day after
day, week after week,,,well,,once again, all I can say is it is very
ironic that you have a hammie license, yet suffer from the one of the
most severe cases of communication deficits.

Dave Hall

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Feb 6, 2003, 7:18:15 AM2/6/03
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Twistedhed wrote:
>
> to not be so arrogant in the future and not to understimate the
> intelligence of the group..see Davey,,the group doesn't need you to
> explain your inconsistencies.

No, because to anyone with half a brain, they're not inconsistent

>.they can see for themselves your actions
> and words,,yet here you sit crying "Believe what I tell you, not what
> you see".,and the failed attempts at perpetuating the lies day after
> day, week after week,,,well,,once again, all I can say is it is very
> ironic that you have a hammie license, yet suffer from the one of the
> most severe cases of communication deficits.

You don't know the difference between a liberal and a libertarian, and
can't see that a "suburb of", and "suburban" are the same, yet you
accuse ME of having a communication deficit? That's rich.


You've lost it. Really. I NEVER, ever, claimed that this person was IN
philly. And any sane, rational person knows that there is no difference
between "suburban philly" and a "Suburb of philly". They're the same,
yet you cite this alleged "difference" as evidence that I somehow made
the whole thing up. It would be different if one time I said "suburban
philly", and the next time I said "the suburbs of New York". Then that
would be inconsistent. But you're wrong, as usual, and your increasing
desperation, and obsessive grasping at straws is becoming all too
evident.

This story is long over, and it's only you who keep bringing it up, like
bad chinese food. I doubt if anyone on this newsgroup cares one way or
the other. But you're the one making all the noise about it. To the rest
of us, it's not that big a deal.

You need to move on and find some other typo that I might have made to
fixate on, for your next fantasy lie.

Dave
"Sandbagger"


Twistedhed

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Feb 6, 2003, 12:10:53 PM2/6/03
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N3CVJ cried with:

>This story is long over, and it's only you who >keep bringing it up,
like bad chinese food.


It's not over as long as you attempt to perpetuate the lie. And I don't
put poison garbage like MSG in my temple, so I woulldn't know.


>I doubt if anyone on this newsgroup cares one >way or the other. But
you're the one making all >the noise about it. To the rest of us, it's
not >that big a deal.

Several folks asked you to show your source,,,a few others expressed an
interest, and a few others were involved in the original
thread....everything intact except you being able to produce anything
that would back up your bullshit. See davey jr..it was MY beat to be
informed of cbers getting popped at one time for Sporadic and for a
related website.....I gathered such info on a regular basis which is how
I knew you were full of shit the first time you tried to blow that BS on
the group. Not only were there no cbers arrested in Philly for what you
claim, there were none in the entire state for 4 years in a row. Now go
back to the drool cup.
Instead of moving on and having your fun and be done with it, you
perpetuated it and stained yourself permanently as a lying, lid hammie.


>You need to move on and find some other >typo that I might have made to
fixate on, for >your next fantasy lie.


Keep talking DN3CVJ, hehhe,,there is no way out. Your lies are a part of
you. Your disdain and arrogance expressed by you asking the group to
believe waht you say and not what they see is astounding...nothing short
of sheer grandiose..the inability to see yourself as you are. (shrug)
All groups should have one like you. It keeps the posts up and the group
active(ly laughing).


>"Sandbagger"

Dave Hall

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Feb 7, 2003, 3:40:33 PM2/7/03
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Twistedhed wrote:
>
> >I doubt if anyone on this newsgroup cares one >way or the other. But
> you're the one making all >the noise about it. To the rest of us, it's
> not >that big a deal.
>
> Several folks asked you to show your source,

Name them. Show the posts where anyone other than you, or one or two of
your sycophants ever asked me.


>,,a few others expressed an
> interest, and a few others were involved in the original
> thread.

A thread that died over a year ago.

...everything intact except you being able to produce anything
> that would back up your bullshit. See davey jr..it was MY beat to be
> informed of cbers getting popped at one time for Sporadic and for a
> related website

Which only proves that you're not as good a "sleuth" as you seem to
think, since you obviously missed this one. And once again, not every
civil or criminal complaint is available on the internet, for people
like you to see. And don't even try to tell us that you dial each and
every small town courthouse in the country and request their records


>.....I gathered such info on a regular basis which is how
> I knew you were full of shit the first time you tried to blow that BS on
> the group. Not only were there no cbers arrested in Philly

Never claimed it happend in Philly. That was your inference. I can't
help it if you don't know that suburban philly means outside the city
limits. And for the record, he was never arrested. He was given a
summons, by the police, to appear in court. The guy was one of our
locals. If you don't believe me, call that phone number of the old CB
shop and ask Wayne.


>
> >You need to move on and find some other >typo that I might have made to
> fixate on, for >your next fantasy lie.
>
> Keep talking DN3CVJ, hehhe,,there is no way out. Your lies are a part of
> you.

Only you think so. There is no one else pressing for answers. Most are
laughing at you, for once again proving that you're the newsgroup punch
clown. I have gotten a few E-mails lately, that pretty much confirm
this.

> Your disdain and arrogance expressed by you asking the group to
> believe waht you say and not what they see is astounding...nothing short
> of sheer grandiose..the inability to see yourself as you are. (shrug)
> All groups should have one like you. It keeps the posts up and the group
> active(ly laughing).

The real irony is that the group is indeed laughing, but it's not at
me.....


Dave
"Sandbagger"

Twistedhed

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Twistedhed wrote:
>I doubt if anyone on this newsgroup cares one >way or the other.

You have effectively demonstrated a lying tendency along with one that
has been shown you know little or have little in common with the" anyone
" on this group, other than Lelnad the lid KC8LDO and N8WWM and WA3MOJ.

>But
>you're the one making all the noise about it.

Calling a request for a backup claim to your lies isn't noise, junior.

>To the rest of us, it's not that big a deal.

But daevy boy jr..not ONE person considers YOU part of "US", with the
exception of Lelnad lid KC8LDO, WA3MOJ, and N8WWM.


Several folks asked you to show your source,

>Name them.

No need..you already lied and said you would provide an answer if ANY
one else asked...then you disqualified yourself.


>Show the posts where anyone other than you, >or one or two of your
sycophants ever asked >me.

Riiigt..its everyone else that has problems like you...NOT! hhahah!


,,a few others expressed an
interest, and a few others were involved in the original thread.

>A thread that died over a year ago.

..everything intact except you being able to produce anything
that would back up your bullshit. See davey jr..it was MY beat to be
informed of cbers getting popped at one time for Sporadic and for a
related website


>Which only proves that you're not as good a >"sleuth" as you seem to
think, since you >obviously missed this one.


No Davey jr,,ALL the actions against cbers are on file, but merely
claiming this ONE case isn't on file with the state anywhere whatoever
doesn't lend any credibility to your caustic and malicious lie..


> And once again, not every civil or criminal >complaint is available on
the internet, for >people like you to see.


??????? Get a job, Davey, jr.no one sad a word about the
internet..reaching farand wide, anin't ya junior?

>And don't even try to tell us that you dial each >and every small town
courthouse in the >country and request their records


Nope..just had one single number to Pa to dial to ascertain you were ful
of malicious shit.

...I gathered such info on a regular basis which is how I knew you were
full of shit the first time you tried to blow that BS on the group. Not
only were there no cbers arrested in Philly

>Never claimed it happend in Philly.


Sure you did,,you claimed it happened IN suburban Philly, then you
calimed it happened in a SUBURB of PHllLY, ,then you went as far as to
say that there is a difference between the two after you claimed it
happened in BOTH places. You're a liar that was caught..hahahha.


>That was your inference.

Your words, not mine.

>I can't help it if you don't know that suburban >philly means outside
the city limits. And for the >record, he was never arrested. He was
given >a summons, by the police, to appear in court.

For the record, and for your ignorance, when one receives a summons to
court for a criminal infraction, even if one wasn't physically cuffed
and taken to jail, it reads as an "arrest" and is considered as an
"arrest" by the courts.
You're ignorance hangs you every time, along with your arraogance.

>The guy was one of our locals.

There was no guy...

>If you don't believe me, call that phone >number of the old CB shop and
ask Wayne.


Riight...this is like calling N8 and getting his officail version of his
BUST instead of getting the info from the feds or the rainreport...What
an idiot you are to fel anyone believes anything you say.

>You need to move on and find some other >typo that I might have made to
>fixate on, for your next fantasy lie.

Keep talking N3CVJ, hehhe,,there is no way out. Your lies are a part of
you.


>Only you think so.

Actually, the contingency KNOWS so...you're missing posts again,,many
have posted showin their intellect in seeing you "talk out both sides of
your mouth". Deal with it, get over yours lid self, and do try to move
on Davey, junior. You're eing aghed at and pitied at the same time.


> There is no one else pressing for answers.

Because they already know you;re lying...it only took me one post to
show as much and that one post has you crying, attacking, getting
ignorant, offtopic, insultive, and lying.
Me,,I like to rub your nose in your piss stained sheets curled up in the
corner.....I will continue to give back your lies and remind all of your
lies whenever your dark presence is attempting to learn the art of
communication that eludes you.

>Most are laughing at you, for once again >proving that you're the
newsgroup punch >clown. I have gotten a few E-mails lately, that >pretty
much confirm this.

Your disdain and arrogance expressed by you asking the group to believe
waht you say and not what they see is astounding...nothing short of
sheer grandiose..the inability to see yourself as you are. (shrug) All
groups should have one like you. It keeps the posts up and the group
active(ly laughing).

>The real irony is that the group is indeed >laughing, but it's not at
me.....
>Dave
>"Sandbagger"

>N3CVJ


Your malady of telling lies then attempting to disregard them by
insulting another or changin the topic from your claims/lies has never
worked. The laughter you hear is 360 degrees.

Dave Hall

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Feb 10, 2003, 1:17:59 PM2/10/03
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Twistedhed wrote:
>You have effectively demonstrated a lying tendency along with one that
> has been shown you know little or have little in common with the" anyone
> " on this group, other than Lelnad the lid KC8LDO and N8WWM and WA3MOJ.
>
Says you. And your immaginary friends, most of which can't use the
internet.

> >But
> >you're the one making all the noise about it.
>
> Calling a request for a backup claim to your lies isn't noise, junior.

Because YOU can't verify it, doesn't make it a lie, son.


>
> >To the rest of us, it's not that big a deal.
>
> But daevy boy jr..not ONE person considers YOU part of "US", with the
> exception of Lelnad lid KC8LDO, WA3MOJ, and N8WWM.

There you go, speaking for the majority again. You have no idea, nor any
credibility to make these statements.

>
> Several folks asked you to show your source,
>
> >Name them.
>
> No need..you already lied and said you would provide an answer if ANY
> one else asked...then you disqualified yourself.

Translation: I am unable to name these supposed people, so I will do
what a lying Twistedhed does best, and spin an answer.


> >A thread that died over a year ago.
>
> ..everything intact except you being able to produce anything
> that would back up your bullshit. See davey jr..it was MY beat to be
> informed of cbers getting popped at one time for Sporadic and for a
> related website
>
> >Which only proves that you're not as good a >"sleuth" as you seem to
> think, since you >obviously missed this one.
>
> No Davey jr,,ALL the actions against cbers are on file, but merely
> claiming this ONE case isn't on file with the state anywhere whatoever
> doesn't lend any credibility to your caustic and malicious lie..

Right. You expect us to believe that every law enforcement action, by
every city, township, county, state, and federal agency is listed in
some sort of file that anyone can look up, and is further catergorized
by citations of illegal radio operation? This is what I mean about your
credibility being suspect.

>
> > And once again, not every civil or criminal >complaint is available on
> the internet, for >people like you to see.
>
> ??????? Get a job, Davey, jr.no one sad a word about the
> internet..reaching farand wide, anin't ya junior?

You have limited resources. The phone and the computer are your best
bets. You either attempted to "look up" the information, or you phoned
someone to ask for it. So which was it?

>
> >And don't even try to tell us that you dial each >and every small town
> courthouse in the >country and request their records
>
> Nope..just had one single number to Pa to dial to ascertain you were ful
> of malicious shit.

Yea, what's the number? Who did you speak to? And what was it you
expected them to "look up" for you at taxpayer expense? You have no
name, no town, and not even what the charge was listed under. I told you
long ago, that it wasn't listed as a "radio violation", but rather as a
"disturbing the peace" charge.

> ...I gathered such info on a regular basis which is how I knew you were
> full of shit the first time you tried to blow that BS on the group. Not
> only were there no cbers arrested in Philly
>
> >Never claimed it happend in Philly.
>
> Sure you did,,you claimed it happened IN suburban Philly, then you
> calimed it happened in a SUBURB of PHllLY,

Which to anyone, other than YOU, means exactly the same thing. Don't
blame me for your reading deficit.


> ,then you went as far as to
> say that there is a difference between the two after you claimed it
> happened in BOTH places. You're a liar that was caught..hahahha.

I never claimed there was a difference, since to anyone with reasonable
mental faculties, "suburban", and "suburb of" are interchangeable. It
happened in one place, Norristown Pa, which is a suburb of, and a part
of suburban philly. There, now go play dialing for dollars again and
tell me again how I'm lying.

>
> >That was your inference.
>
> Your words, not mine.

Nonetheless, it was your inability to comprehend what I said, that
caused this little , er... misunderstanding.

>
> >I can't help it if you don't know that suburban >philly means outside
> the city limits. And for the >record, he was never arrested. He was
> given >a summons, by the police, to appear in court.
>
> For the record, and for your ignorance, when one receives a summons to
> court for a criminal infraction, even if one wasn't physically cuffed
> and taken to jail, it reads as an "arrest" and is considered as an
> "arrest" by the courts.

Gee does that mean that the cop that gave me a traffic ticket last year,
"arrested" me? My friends in law enforcement are having a chuckle at
that one.

> You're ignorance hangs you every time, along with your arraogance.

You should look in the mirror more often, for it is you, more often than
not, who makes wild unsubstantiated claims, and become belligerant and
arrogant when we call you to the carpet to back them up.

>
> >The guy was one of our locals.
>
> There was no guy...

There was, even if you refuse to accept it.

>
> >If you don't believe me, call that phone >number of the old CB shop and
> ask Wayne.
>
> Riight...this is like calling N8 and getting his officail version of his
> BUST instead of getting the info from the feds or the rainreport...What
> an idiot you are to fel anyone believes anything you say.

Just proving the point that you talk alot of guff, but refuse to reveal
any of your alleged sources for the BS that you spew. When given the
chance to make the call, you make up a story why you can't/won't. I'm
still waiting for you to let us know the name of the "nice lady" you
supposedly called at Villanova to check on a post that happened 8 years
ago. I'm sure you won't be revealing that either.

>
> >You need to move on and find some other >typo that I might have made to
> >fixate on, for your next fantasy lie.
>
> Keep talking N3CVJ, hehhe,,there is no way out. Your lies are a part of
> you.

Actually, they're a part of you, along with the rest of your sociopathic
tendancies.


Dave
"Sandbagger"


Twistedhed

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Feb 10, 2003, 4:11:31 PM2/10/03
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From: nojunk...@worldlynx.net (Dave Hall)
Twistedhed wrote:
You have effectively demonstrated a lying tendency along with one that
has been shown you know little or have little in common with the" anyone
" on this group, other than Lelnad the lid KC8LDO and N8WWM and WA3MOJ.

>Says you.


Correct. And those in the know, know my word is golden. Let us take a
peek at examples...I said N8 was busted....Geo wants to argue semantics
and the definition of the word.
I said he was busted for jamming and other violations, Lelnad KCLDO,
once again, took issue with the messenger and claimed it wasn't true.
WA3MOJ claimed it was Chuck-Eye acting as N8 to get him busted...talk
about a desperation lie..(mmmph)...and you,,,YOU....you immediately
refuted and doubted my claim that Keith emailed me to see what could be
done of Dogie simply because of your intense fear and dislike of me that
controls your waking moments. So far, you were wrong, lil geo was wrong,
and Lelnad was wrong, adn most of all DOgie was wrong for breaking
federal law.

>And your immaginary friends,

Get some of that soft-ware-for-idiosos that Lelnad uses.


>But
>you're the one making all the noise about it.


Calling a request for a backup claim to your lies isn't noise, junior.

>Because YOU can't verify it, doesn't make it a
>lie, son.
>To the rest of us, it's not that big a deal.

But daevy boy jr..not ONE person considers YOU part of "US", with the
exception of Lelnad lid KC8LDO, WA3MOJ, and N8WWM.


>There you go, speaking for the majority again.


The makority of cbers present, yes, as I have demonstrated I have way
more in common with them than you. The majority you speak of, do not
view amp users as federal criminals, and this same "majority" does not
use cb as a measuring stick of a reflection of socieities values like
you have claimed..hehehe..yes, Daevy jr,,I AM...... the
majority..YOU..are the minority..and your attitude sucks! I also happen
to have the temerity needed to shove you and N8s and Lelnads bullshit
back to whence it came.

>You have no idea, nor any credibility to make >these statements.

Several folks asked you to show your source,


>Name them.


No need..you already lied and said you would provide an answer if ANY
one else asked...then you disqualified yourself.

>Translation: I am unable to name these >supposed people, so I will do
>what a lying Twistedhed does best, and spin >an answer.


Translation: I, N3CVJ will obfuscate because as a lid, I will not do as
I claimed, instead, I will insult twisty..

>A thread that died over a year ago.


.everything intact except you being able to
produce anything that would back up your bullshit. See davey jr..it was
MY beat to be informed of cbers getting popped at one time for Sporadic
and for a related website


>Which only proves that you're not as good a >"sleuth" as you seem to
>think, since you obviously missed this one.


Correct,,I don't think I'm half as good as I really am.

_


No Davey jr,,ALL the actions against cbers are on file, but merely
claiming this ONE case isn't on file with the state anywhere whatoever
doesn't lend any credibility to your caustic and malicious lie..


>Right. You expect us to believe

I don't care what you loathsome 4 believe and expect nothing of you
except to mind your own business and onot be worried about the private
lives of US.

> that every law enforcement action, by every >city, township, county,

state, and federal >anyone can look up, and is further >catergorized by


citations of illegal radio >operation?

Not at all.

>This is what I mean about your credibility >being suspect.


Of course..YOU, don't know what you are speaking of, so *I* must be
suspect.

>And once again, not every civil or criminal >complaint is available on
>the internet, for >people like you to see.

??????? Get a job, Davey, jr.no one said a

word about the internet..reaching farand wide, anin't ya junior?


>You have limited resources.


No, I have a plethora of resources. YOU have limited resources,
including the lack of tact for putting words in others mouths the way
you attempt....but it goes right along with your lies.

>The phone and the computer are your best >bets.

If you say so.

> You either attempted to "look up" the >information, or you phoned
someone to ask >for it. So which was it?

Why does this bother you? You are asking e to reveal sources when you
hee and haw and stammer for weeks over mere questions. No cigar.


>And don't even try to tell us

I'm on;ly speaking to you, not Nad or Geo or N8 so don't go looking to
them..

>that you dial each >and every small town
>courthouse in the >country and request their >records

Nope..just had one single number to Pa to dial to ascertain you were ful
of malicious shit.

>Yea, what's the number? Who did you speak >to? And what was it you
expected them to >"look up" for you at taxpayer expense?

Some towns have informational clerks that do just that..ask Keith.


>You have no name, no town, and not even >what the charge was listed
under.

Sure I do..you forget what you post.

>I told you long ago, that it wasn't listed as a >"radio violation", but
rather as a "disturbing the >peace" charge.

Ok,,then allow us to clarify..I think I see where you are going..a cber
was busted for disturbing the peace..but he wasn;'t using a cb at the
time, right? Since the guy was also an avid cber, he did something else
and was arested and you took that and stretched it with your bullshit to
reflect a "cber getting arrested",,how am I doing so far, flash?


_


..I gathered such info on a regular basis which is how I knew you were
full of shit the first time you tried to blow that BS on the group. Not
only were there no cbers arrested in Philly


>Never claimed it happend in Philly.


Sure you did,,you claimed it happened IN suburban Philly, then you
calimed it happened in a SUBURB of PHllLY,


>Which to anyone, other than YOU, means >exactly the same thing. Don't
blame me for >your reading deficit.

Not really. You had to clarify it several times and reading your
bullshit as it was written all can see it for exactly what it
is.....bullshit.
Then you went as far as to

say that there is a difference between the two after you claimed it
happened in BOTH places. You're a liar that was caught..hahahha.


>I never claimed there was a difference,
>since to anyone with reasonable mental >faculties, "suburban", and
"suburb of" are >interchangeable.


You "NEVER CLAIMED THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE", hmm? Were you drunk when we
had the following exchange?
Have some more crow you're growing so fond of:
======================================


N3CVJ wrote:
>This happened about 5 years ago, in >suburban philadelphia. The person
accused, >did not have the money to afford a lawyer, >which is why, I'm
sure, that he lost.

Well Dave, Philly was easy to check...want a contact name there as well?
That makes you a two -time loser/liar in less than a week....the
university clarified your lie concerning your email....Villanova headers
would appear not in your email trail unless you forged them. No surprise
there. What IS amusing, is how far you go to lie..I mean,dude,,you are
the text book classic example of a pathological liar, by anyones
standards..you ie even when the world knows you lie.... Dave Hall says
"Are you going to believe what you see or what I tell you?"

N3CVJ retaliates with:
>On what grounds? The previous paragraph >was accurate. I'd be willing
to bet you didn't >call anyone, as you don't know who handles >what. And


it was NOT in Philly. It was in a >suburb of philly. BIG difference.

======================================
SO, .......so far we have you saying:

>Never claimed it happend in Philly.

Then we have you saying:

>This happened about 5 years ago, IN >suburban Philadelphia,,


ANd to remove ALL doubt, you maliciously blurted:


>to anyone with reasonable mental faculties, "suburban", and "suburb of"
are >interchangeable.


>It happened in one place, Norristown Pa, >which is a suburb of, and a
part of suburban >philly.


Wrong! Norristown is NOT a part of Philly,,it is it's own CITY with it's
own board of commissioners and tax base, which disqualifies it as being
a 'burb of Philly.

.

>There, now go play dialing for dollars again >and tell me again how I'm
lying.


You're lying.


>Nonetheless, it was your inability to >comprehend what I said, that
caused this little >, er... misunderstanding.

Actually Davey, it was YOUR communication deficit that prevented you
from being clear..ask anyone..what you wrote is contradictive and not
clear at all.It's your lack of communication skills.

>I can't help it if you don't know that suburban >philly means outside
>the city limits.

You just said the words were interchangeable. Make up your mind.

>And for the record, he was never arrested. He >was givena summons, by


the police, to appear >in court.


For the record, and for your ignorance, when one receives a summons to
court for a criminal infraction, even if one wasn't physically cuffed
and taken to jail, it reads as an "arrest" and is considered as an
"arrest" by the courts.


>Gee does that mean that the cop that gave me >a traffic ticket last
year, "arrested" me?


Pay attention. Traffic court is a separate entity.


>My friends in law enforcement are having a >chuckle at that one.

We're all laughning at that, junior, as those who know me know exactly
where I get my info....in any event,I am happy to bring a ray of smile
to your dismal and dank cave of lies and malice.


You're ignorance hangs you every time, along with your arraogance.


>You should look in the mirror more often, for it >is you, more often
than not, who makes wild >unsubstantiated claims,


My claims are all substantited Davey boy,,every singe one of them.
Merely parroting yourself and Nad and N8 lends more ironic truth to
those claims each day.


> and become belligerant and arrogant when >we call you to the carpet to
back them up.


The claims were *YOURS*, junior, not mine.


>The guy was one of our locals.

There was no guy...


>There was, even if you refuse to accept it.
>If you don't believe me, call that phone >number of the old CB shop and
ask Wayne.


Riight...this is like calling N8 and getting his officail version of his

BUST instead of getting the info from the feds or the rainreport...geez
Davey junior,,you're getting desperate.


>Just proving the point that you talk alot of guff,

Nah..you're proving all my points just fine.

>but refuse to reveal any of your alleged >sources for the BS that you
spew. When given >the chance to make the call, you make up a story why
you can't/won't. I'm still waiting for >you to let us know the name of
the "nice lady" >you supposedly called at Villanova to check >on a post
that happened 8 years ago. I'm sure >you won't be revealing that either.

Easier than pie....merely email the headers I posted from MSN spamcop to
villanova like I did, big boy, and they will confirm it. What, you
expected me to email the tech? HAhahhahahah! You been played like a
cheap fiddle, junior!! As I offered, ANYOnE can email villanova directly
for confirmation the email was authentic. Why you are lying about it I
have yet to care about.

>You need to move on and find some other >typo that I might have made to
fixate on, for >your next fantasy lie.


Keep talking N3CVJ, hehhe,,there is no way out. Your lies are a part of
you.


>Actually, they're a part of you,


No davey, your problems are not a part of me no matter how much you
convince yourself otherwise..your problems are within.

>along with the rest of your sociopathic >tendancies


Try that idioso software..it will avoid tpos and juvenile errors as
above, but it won't help with your malicious lies you try to pass of as
"typos"

>Dave
>"Sandbagger"
>N3CVJ


N3CVJ also wrote:
>This case was handled through a local court,

Which is why there is a record of it if it exists, along with a judges
name and room number where the case was presided over, along with
several other key components you are not aware of.

N3CVJ continued:
>The Cber (Who I knew personally),

Gee junior,, you know all kinds of lowlives.


>didn't have the money to fight the charges, >and ended up paying a $300
fine for >"disturbing the peace".


Again,,a record exists.

>The judge decided that this type of intrusion >was no different than
someone playing a loud >stereo in front of your house.


Imbecile. The judge has NO room to make law,,he can only follow it.

>The FCC was not involved.

Which is why it dodn't have anything to do with a cb.


>Radio law was not brought into the picture.


Because a radio wasn't even involved.

>It was a simple matter of noise pollution into a >neighbor's house.


When it goes to court, it's never a simple matter. There is a record,
unlesss, ofcourse, you wish to say this "friend" of yours is in the
witness protection program or some other incredible lie of why no
records exist.
__

Dave Hall

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Feb 11, 2003, 12:39:34 PM2/11/03
to
Twistedhed wrote:
>
> From: nojunk...@worldlynx.net (Dave Hall)
> Twistedhed wrote:
> You have effectively demonstrated a lying tendency along with one that
> has been shown you know little or have little in common with the" anyone
> " on this group, other than Lelnad the lid KC8LDO and N8WWM and WA3MOJ.
>
> >Says you.
>
> Correct. And those in the know, know my word is golden. Let us take a
> peek at examples...I said N8 was busted....Geo wants to argue semantics
> and the definition of the word.

Well, it has yet to be shown that Doug is guilty of actually "jamming"
the repeater in question. He has been known to have been "forceful" with
certain hams on the repeater. But the jury's still out on his guilt or
innocense.


> I said he was busted for jamming and other violations, Lelnad KCLDO,
> once again, took issue with the messenger and claimed it wasn't true.

The fact that it was mentioned in the RAIN report was true. What it all
measn is still open for debate, and the final outcome is still pending
by the FCC.


> WA3MOJ claimed it was Chuck-Eye acting as N8 to get him busted.

And this cannot possibly be true? It is a possibility, one that, I'm
sure, will be investigated. One cannot deny Chuck's last meltdown on the
newsgroup, not that long back, where he made some threats aimed at Doug.
Now, I don't believe in coincidences, so where does that leave us?

> .and you,,,YOU....you immediately
> refuted and doubted my claim that Keith emailed me to see what could be
> done of Dogie simply because of your intense fear and dislike of me that
> controls your waking moments.

You're wrong as usual. I never challenged your claim that Keith E-mailed
you. I challenged your speculative claim that Keith and Doug were
"buds", and playing you for a fool.


> So far, you were wrong, lil geo was wrong,
> and Lelnad was wrong, adn most of all DOgie was wrong for breaking
> federal law.

That has not been definitively established yet. Doug has not been fined,
or asked to appear before any court. Should it prove to be true, then
Doug is as guilty as those he lambasts on here, and will be deserving of
any and all action taken against him by the FCC.

>
> >And your immaginary friends,
>
> Get some of that soft-ware-for-idiosos that Lelnad uses.
>
> >But
> >you're the one making all the noise about it.
>
> Calling a request for a backup claim to your lies isn't noise, junior.
>
> >Because YOU can't verify it, doesn't make it a
> >lie, son.
> >To the rest of us, it's not that big a deal.
>
> But daevy boy jr..not ONE person considers YOU part of "US", with the
> exception of Lelnad lid KC8LDO, WA3MOJ, and N8WWM.
>
> >There you go, speaking for the majority again.
>
> The makority of cbers present, yes, as I have demonstrated I have way
> more in common with them than you.

How do yo figure. Are you claiming that you, a sociopathic, habitual
liar and lawbreaker has the most in common with typical Cbers? Man, you
just insulted a whole load of people.


> The majority you speak of, do not
> view amp users as federal criminals,

And you've conducted a poll? Show us the results.


> and this same "majority" does not use cb as a measuring stick of a reflection
> of socieities values like you have claimed.

You are truly myopic, if you do not see the parallels between the
gradual decline in moral values that proliferate over the radio bands
(both ham and CB) and that of society in general. None are so blind as
those who refuse (or are unable) to see.

>.hehehe..yes, Daevy jr,,I AM...... the
> majority..YOU..are the minority.

Once again, show us the proof. You're blowing smoke again, living in
that fanasy world of Walter Mitty, where you think you're relevant.


>.and your attitude sucks!

Because you don't agree with it? Maybe it's YOUR attitude that sucks.

> I also happen
> to have the temerity needed to shove you and N8s and Lelnads bullshit
> back to whence it came.

Back to you, as you can only sling words, you have no substance to back
them up. We, on the other hand, believe in the priciples of law, and the
foundation of personal responsibility for which this country was
founded, long before the liberals (Not to be confused with libertarians)
created the "welfare state" and started the age of dependancy, and
deflection of responsibility.


>
> >You have no idea, nor any credibility to make >these statements.
>
> Several folks asked you to show your source,
>
> >Name them.
>
> No need..you already lied and said you would provide an answer if ANY
> one else asked...then you disqualified yourself.

Anyone credible. No one asked except Nebo, and he's as off the rails as
you are, bootlegging ham calls on the ham bands.

> Translation: I, N3CVJ will obfuscate because as a lid, I will not do as
> I claimed, instead, I will insult twisty..

I don't have to insult you, you do that to yourself with every
keystroke.

>
> >A thread that died over a year ago.
>
> .everything intact except you being able to
> produce anything that would back up your bullshit. See davey jr..it was
> MY beat to be informed of cbers getting popped at one time for Sporadic
> and for a related website
>
> >Which only proves that you're not as good a >"sleuth" as you seem to
> >think, since you obviously missed this one.
>
> Correct,,I don't think I'm half as good as I really am.

But still insufficient to find what you were looking for. I have to
wonder how many other local cases escaped your "watch"? That would
explain why you vehemently deny that any have happened when others have
put forth examples of the same.

>
> _
>
> No Davey jr,,ALL the actions against cbers are on file, but merely
> claiming this ONE case isn't on file with the state anywhere whatoever
> doesn't lend any credibility to your caustic and malicious lie..
>
> >Right. You expect us to believe
>
> I don't care what you loathsome 4 believe and expect nothing of you
> except to mind your own business and onot be worried about the private
> lives of US.

You first, hypocrite.


>
> > that every law enforcement action, by every >city, township, county,
> state, and federal >anyone can look up, and is further >catergorized by
> citations of illegal radio >operation?
>
> Not at all.
>
> >This is what I mean about your credibility >being suspect.
>
> Of course..YOU, don't know what you are speaking of, so *I* must be
> suspect.
>
> >And once again, not every civil or criminal >complaint is available on
> >the internet, for >people like you to see.
>
> ??????? Get a job, Davey, jr.no one said a
> word about the internet..reaching farand wide, anin't ya junior?
>
> >You have limited resources.
>
> No, I have a plethora of resources. YOU have limited resources,
>

Prove it. Name your resources. C'mon, don't be shy. And why would
someone with a "plethora" of resources, who claims to be in the
information gathering business (Talk about a hypocritical occupation for
one who chastizes others for "prying" into others personal business),
have nothing more than a WebTV for internet access? See, the pieces
don't fit, that's why, your BS doesn't fly (hey another rhyme!).


> > You either attempted to "look up" the >information, or you phoned
> someone to ask >for it. So which was it?
>
> Why does this bother you? You are asking e to reveal sources when you
> hee and haw and stammer for weeks over mere questions. No cigar.


Translation: As usual, I have no substance to back up my wild
accusations.

>
> >Yea, what's the number? Who did you speak >to? And what was it you
> expected them to >"look up" for you at taxpayer expense?
>
> Some towns have informational clerks that do just that..ask Keith.

What's their name? Phone number?

>
> >You have no name, no town, and not even >what the charge was listed
> under.
>
> Sure I do..you forget what you post.
>
> >I told you long ago, that it wasn't listed as a >"radio violation", but
> rather as a "disturbing the >peace" charge.
>
> Ok,,then allow us to clarify..I think I see where you are going..a cber
> was busted for disturbing the peace..but he wasn;'t using a cb at the
> time, right? Since the guy was also an avid cber, he did something else
> and was arested and you took that and stretched it with your bullshit to
> reflect a "cber getting arrested",,how am I doing so far, flash?

No, he was cited for disturbing the peace, for interferingwith his
neighbor's radio's and possibly a TV, I don't remember exactly. The key
element in this case, was the gratuitous use of vulgar language. Had the
language not been there, this would most likely not have resulting in a
fine. He wasn't busted for technical violations stemming from his CB
use, but the fact that his neighbor was being subjected to vulgarity
against his will. No different than if you shouted four letter words in
front of your neighbor's house at 2:00 in the morning. The CB was only
the mechanism of delivery.

You totally confused idiot. I said that there was a big difference
between a suburb of philly and in the CITY of philly, not between
suburban philly and a suburb of philly. You really are dense aren't you?

Face it, you screwed up, and are now trying to backpeddle and spin your
way out of it.


>
> ======================================
> SO, .......so far we have you saying:
>
> >Never claimed it happend in Philly.
>
> Then we have you saying:
>
> >This happened about 5 years ago, IN >suburban Philadelphia,,
>
> ANd to remove ALL doubt, you maliciously blurted:
>
> >to anyone with reasonable mental faculties, "suburban", and "suburb of"
> are >interchangeable.
>
> >It happened in one place, Norristown Pa, >which is a suburb of, and a
> part of suburban >philly.
>
> Wrong! Norristown is NOT a part of Philly,

No kidding. It's not a part of philly, but it IS a suburb of philly.


> ,it is it's own CITY with it's

No, Norristown is a borough. I can play semamntics too.


> own board of commissioners and tax base, which disqualifies it as being
> a 'burb of Philly.

Maybe where you are, but where I'm from, any place that's outside the
"big" city is a suburb of that city. Small towns and boroughs included.
So go spin some more.

> >There, now go play dialing for dollars again >and tell me again how I'm
> lying.
>
> You're lying.
>
> >Nonetheless, it was your inability to >comprehend what I said, that
> caused this little >, er... misunderstanding.
>
> Actually Davey, it was YOUR communication deficit that prevented you
> from being clear..ask anyone..what you wrote is contradictive and not
> clear at all.It's your lack of communication skills.

Says you. I don't know of anyone who sees a distiction between
"suburban" and "suburb of".

>
> >I can't help it if you don't know that suburban >philly means outside
> >the city limits.
>
> You just said the words were interchangeable. Make up your mind.

That's right. Suburban and suburb of are both interchangeable and
outside the city limits. If it were inside city limits, it would not be
suburban or a suburb of.

>
> >And for the record, he was never arrested. He >was givena summons, by
> the police, to appear >in court.
>
> For the record, and for your ignorance, when one receives a summons to
> court for a criminal infraction, even if one wasn't physically cuffed
> and taken to jail, it reads as an "arrest" and is considered as an
> "arrest" by the courts.
>
> >Gee does that mean that the cop that gave me >a traffic ticket last
> year, "arrested" me?
>
> Pay attention. Traffic court is a separate entity.

How convenient. Spin some more.


>
> >My friends in law enforcement are having a >chuckle at that one.
>
> We're all laughning at that, junior, as those who know me know exactly
> where I get my info....in any event,I am happy to bring a ray of smile
> to your dismal and dank cave of lies and malice.
> You're ignorance hangs you every time, along with your arraogance.
>
> >You should look in the mirror more often, for it >is you, more often
> than not, who makes wild >unsubstantiated claims,
>
> My claims are all substantited Davey boy,,every singe one of them.
> Merely parroting yourself and Nad and N8 lends more ironic truth to
> those claims each day.

You have not provided one piece of corroborating evidence to back any of
your wild claims. Now you outright lie and show no shame?

You are truly incorrigable.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

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