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Lili Rossi

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Dec 20, 2002, 8:12:30 PM12/20/02
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Hi. I took my fiance to the social security office last Thursday (12/12) to
get his number. There was no problem as to whether he was able to get the
card, but we were told that INS had not entered him into the computer yet.
We were told to call the SS 800 number in about a week so we called this
afternoon. Same story. INS had still not entered him into the computer. He
will have been here for two weeks tomorrow.

What do we do? They told us on the phone that if we don't get the card in 2
weeks to go back to the office to find out why. I just don't like sitting
and waiting. How long does it usually take for INS to enter him into the
computer? His POE was Newark.

Please give us some advice.

Thanks,

Lili


Matta Harri

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Dec 20, 2002, 6:51:01 PM12/20/02
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In article <au04ke$507$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>,
Wait. Wait some more. Keep on waiting.
Newark is about the busiest INS office there is. It will take time for
them to get to this, trust me.
--
Matta

meauxna

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Dec 20, 2002, 8:49:40 PM12/20/02
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Originally posted by Matta Harri
> In article ,
Not only that, but we were recently told it will take a calendar month
to get the verification from INS. Good news was, number and card will be
immediately released "simultaneously", discouraging me to call back for
just the number (yeah, right!).

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Michael D. Young

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Dec 20, 2002, 9:52:18 PM12/20/02
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Lili Rossi wrote:

Hi All!

It probably varies from office to office. My wife and daughter had their AOS
approved on August 8th. We went to a Social Security office the first week of
September and the AOS approval still wasn't in the system. My daughter got her
SSN card the second week of October. Never did find out who was responsible for
doing it. Vermont said the Baltimore INS office was supposed to do it and
Vermont said the Baltimore office was supposed to do it.

I wouldn't say there wasn't a problem or the SSA office would have processed the
application and he would have his SSN by now. If they can't verify work
authorized status online, the SSA office is supposed to send a G-845 to INS for
a manual verification. The INS office in Baltimore told me that try to get
them back to SSA in 21 days. SSA procedure says the SSA office should follow up
with INS after 20 working days (basically a month).

Take care,

Mike :)

Michael D. Young

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Dec 20, 2002, 10:12:18 PM12/20/02
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Meagan wrote:

>
> Not only that, but we were recently told it will take a calendar month
> to get the verification from INS. Good news was, number and card will be
> immediately released "simultaneously", discouraging me to call back for
> just the number (yeah, right!).

Hi All!

Well that's basically what does happen. Once the local office has certified
the application and entered the application info into the system to issue
the SSN and card, the computer system at the NCC in Baltimore issues the SSN
and the card is printed and mailed Normally, you can get the SSN over the
phone in three or four days, since someone doesn't run down to the mailbox
with your SSN card right after it's printed. LOL

Take care,

Mike :)


Yana

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Dec 21, 2002, 12:27:09 AM12/21/02
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Matta Harri <matta...@kissoff.net> wrote in message news:<lWNM9.15244$C06...@news.bellsouth.net>...

Hi there. It took me nearly 2 months to get my SSN. I just got it a
week ago. When I called 800 number I was told that it really takes
about 6 to 8 weeks (because of 9/11), so I think you might want to
wait just a bit longer.

John McHugh

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Dec 21, 2002, 1:21:26 AM12/21/02
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Originally posted by Lili Rossi
>
> What do we do? They told us on the phone that if we don't get the
> card in 2
> weeks to go back to the office to find out why. I just don't
> like sitting
> and waiting. How long does it usually take for INS to enter him
> into the
> computer? His POE was Newark.
>
> Please give us some advice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lili

If you need the number quickly, you should go to INS and see if you can
persuade someone to fax the G-845 to the SS office while you're there.
This worked for my wife...she had a SS number the day after showing up
at INS, after many headaches trying to get some movement through the SS
offices and 800 number. You may want to bring some documentation to INS
that supports why you need a SS number pronto.

KissingtheBrit

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Dec 23, 2002, 11:45:23 AM12/23/02
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My husband was told it would be sixty days before he would have his SSN.
So far it has been about 45 and each week we call the 800 number and
nothing yet. After the 60 days he is supposed to go back to SSN to
check and see what is up. :( We are in Minnesota.

John McHugh

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Dec 23, 2002, 12:09:02 PM12/23/02
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Originally posted by KissingtheBrit
> My husband was told it would be sixty days before he would have his
> SSN. So far it has been about 45 and each week we call the 800 number
> and nothing yet. After the 60 days he is supposed to go back to SSN
> to check and see what is up. :( We are in Minnesota.

Is a trip to your INS office not practical? Personally, I wouldn't wait
this out if there's a potential job hanging in the balance. INS can
clear the path on the spot if they are so inclined.

KissingtheBrit

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Dec 23, 2002, 1:13:31 PM12/23/02
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Originally posted by John McHugh
> Is a trip to your INS office not practical? Personally, I wouldn't
> wait this out if there's a potential job hanging in the balance. INS
> can clear the path on the spot if they are so inclined.
>

Good point...he's already had to pass on one job due to the fact that he
had no SSN to provide and they wouldn't take him without it. A trip
down to our local office would be practical...we're not far. Sometimes
I am too passive for my own good. I say to myself, "Well, they said 60
days, so..."

In reality maybe I should be acting like the infamous squeaky wheel! :)
We're surviving OK for now, but I'm pregnant and he needs a J-O-B!!

Thanks for the advice.

Ang

John McHugh

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:28:09 PM12/23/02
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Originally posted by KissingtheBrit
> Good point...he's already had to pass on one job due to the fact that
> he had no SSN to provide and they wouldn't take him without it. A
> trip down to our local office would be practical...we're not far.
> Sometimes I am too passive for my own good. I say to myself, "Well,
> they said 60 days, so..."
>
> In reality maybe I should be acting like the infamous squeaky
> wheel! :) We're surviving OK for now, but I'm pregnant and he
> needs a J-O-B!!
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Ang

My wife was in the same situation several months ago. In principle,
employers don't need to wait, provided the prospective employee has
employment authorization, but many companies don't have the capability
to process a new employee without a SS number, and they may be worried
about being audited if they jump the gun and work around the system.

Going to INS to plead for verification of the EAD worked for us.
Surprisingly, the people we dealt with at INS-Atlanta were unaware that
the SS office wouldn't process applications from individuals with an EA
card without further action from INS.

If you do go to INS, just in case you end up speaking with an official
who's not on top of how he/she can help, try to bring along the FAX # of
the SS office you're dealing with and mention the G-845 form that will
clear your application.

Good luck.

gentlelady

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Dec 23, 2002, 7:06:54 PM12/23/02
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Originally posted by John McHugh
> My wife was in the same situation several months ago. In principle,
> employers don't need to wait, provided the prospective employee has
> employment authorization, but many companies don't have the capability
> to process a new employee without a SS number, and they may be worried
> about being audited if they jump the gun and work around the system.
>
> Going to INS to plead for verification of the EAD worked for us.
> Surprisingly, the people we dealt with at INS-Atlanta were unaware
> that the SS office wouldn't process applications from individuals with
> an EA card without further action from INS.
>
> If you do go to INS, just in case you end up speaking with an official
> who's not on top of how he/she can help, try to bring along the FAX #
> of the SS office you're dealing with and mention the G-845 form that
> will clear your application.
>
> Good luck.

Hi John,

My fiance will also be dealing with Atlanta.....Did you apply for your
fiance soc sec number when she first arrived? And how long had your
fiance been here before going to the INS in Atlanta to plead for EAD? I
thought they didn't take walk-ins, but glad to see your info. Thanks
for any advice you give.

John McHugh

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Dec 23, 2002, 9:43:59 PM12/23/02
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Originally posted by gentlelady
> Hi John,
>
> My fiance will also be dealing with Atlanta.....Did you apply for your
> fiance soc sec number when she first arrived? And how long had your
> fiance been here before going to the INS in Atlanta to plead for EAD?
> I thought they didn't take walk-ins, but glad to see your info.
> Thanks for any advice you give.

My wife was here on a tourist visa...she never had a K visa. I believe
the policy states that there is a 30 day limit upon entry before which
the SS office doesn't need to ask for verification of employment
authorization from INS, but my wife had been in the country for more
than a year. INS will always "take" walk-ins, but it doesn't mean that
you will leave happy. :-)

The EAD wasn't the problem in Atlanta...we got our application receipt
Feb. 14 and received the card within a couple months. It was only after
that that we had the problem with social security. So, it took a second
trip to Atlanta to resolve things.

John

Michael D. Young

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Dec 24, 2002, 6:21:12 AM12/24/02
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John McHugh wrote:

> Originally posted by gentlelady
> > Hi John,
> >
> > My fiance will also be dealing with Atlanta.....Did you apply for your
> > fiance soc sec number when she first arrived? And how long had your
> > fiance been here before going to the INS in Atlanta to plead for EAD?
> > I thought they didn't take walk-ins, but glad to see your info.
> > Thanks for any advice you give.
>
> My wife was here on a tourist visa...she never had a K visa. I believe
> the policy states that there is a 30 day limit upon entry before which
> the SS office doesn't need to ask for verification of employment

> authorization from INS.

Hi All!

Since, July 2002 every alien is checked.


Take care,

Mike :)

John McHugh

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Dec 24, 2002, 12:18:17 PM12/24/02
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Originally posted by Michael D. Young
>
>
> Hi All!
>
> Since, July 2002 every alien is checked.
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Mike :)

Thanks for the update, Mike. I hadn't heard that.

gentlelady

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Dec 24, 2002, 5:02:06 PM12/24/02
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Originally posted by Lili Rossi

Hi lili,

My question is they had you fill out all the information applying for
a soc security # without any problems? What evidence did you have to
show? Just wanting to know so I'll know what to expect when my
fiance' arrive.

Michael D. Young

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Dec 24, 2002, 8:15:15 PM12/24/02
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gentlelady wrote:

> Hi lili,
>
> My question is they had you fill out all the information applying for
> a soc security # without any problems? What evidence did you have to
> show? Just wanting to know so I'll know what to expect when my
> fiance' arrive.

Hi All!

You need proof of age, ID and legal alien status and if your not eligible
to work based on status alone, i.e. K-2/3/4, you need the EAD too.

Foreign born applicants must also present at least two documents which
establish age, identity, and
lawful alien status or authority to work.

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200

The INS document (e.g., I-551, I-94, or an employment authorization
document) establishes lawful
alien status or work authorization and either identity or age. If the INS
document is used to establish
alien status and identity, the alien must provide another document, such
as a passport or birth
certificate, to establish age. Conversely, if the INS document is used to
establish alien status and age,
a second document, such as a passport or driver's license, is required to
establish identity.

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203020

I would take your birth certificate, passport, I-94 or I-551 and EAD if
your INS status requires one for you to work. If you are doing a name
change after marriage, you need to bring your marriage certificate too.
You don't need proof of age when applying for a replacement or corrected
SSN card.

Take care,

Mike :)

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