Bugging me for a long time
Kevin
" set vim to give me page down on spacebar
nmap <Space> <C-F>
Now, how do I get Shift-space to give me <C-B> ? I've tried a whole
bunch of them, and they dont seem to work...
bill lam
Does your terminal (emulator) give different key sequences for space
and shift space? AFAICS xterm can not distinguish between tab and
shift tab.
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Gary Johnson
Are you using vim or gvim?
In gvim running on a Red Hat Linux system, I can enter insert mode,
type Ctrl-K, then hold the Shift key while hitting the space bar and
see this
<S-Space>
I can then execute this mapping,
:namp <S-Space> <C-B>
and it works just fine.
In vim running in an xterm, however, the Ctrl-K Shift-Space sequence
shows nothing. Further, while in insert mode, typing Ctrl-V
followed by a space with the Shift key held down just inserts a
space. This demonstrates that xterm doesn't produce a special
character sequence for the Shift-Space combination, so there's no
way to use that key combination for a map or anything else.
HTH,
Gary
Kevin
I rarely use gvim, it takes me too far from the shell, I'm using vim
in the terminal. Thanks!
On Nov 11, 9:44 pm, Gary Johnson <garyj...@spk.agilent.com> wrote:
dickey
> Does your terminal (emulator) give different key sequences for space
> and shift space? AFAICS xterm can not distinguish between tab and
> shift tab.
http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.log.html#xterm_47
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bill lam
>
> On Nov 11, 9:36 pm, bill lam <cbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Does your terminal (emulator) give different key sequences for space
> > and shift space? AFAICS xterm can not distinguish between tab and
> > shift tab.
>
> It's been in xterm a while:
>
> http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.log.html#xterm_47
I use ubuntu and xterm -version gave XTerm(235). But shift tab does
not work in vim and mutt, Does it require other setting to make it
work?
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dickey
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, dickey wrote:
>
> > On Nov 11, 9:36 pm, bill lam <cbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Does your terminal (emulator) give different key sequences for space
> > > and shift space? AFAICS xterm can not distinguish between tab and
> > > shift tab.
>
> > It's been in xterm a while:
>
> >http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.log.html#xterm_47
>
> I use ubuntu and xterm -version gave XTerm(235). But shift tab does
> not work in vim and mutt, Does it require other setting to make it
> work?
But a few of the things that can go wrong:
(a) override of the translations resource can interfere with the built-
in definitions (packagers sometimes do this)
(b) vim and mutt use the terminfo data (which should define the kcbt
value, viewable with infocmp).
If it were only vim, I'd point out that vim has an internal set of
data for terminals.
mutt could be using slang (and pointing to a termcap...) or
ncurses.
(c) some packagers have local patches to the terminal database (and
introduce problems).
bill lam
> it shouldn't require other settings (since it's built-in)
> But a few of the things that can go wrong:
> (a) override of the translations resource can interfere with the built-
> in definitions (packagers sometimes do this)
> (b) vim and mutt use the terminfo data (which should define the kcbt
> value, viewable with infocmp).
> If it were only vim, I'd point out that vim has an internal set of
> data for terminals.
> mutt could be using slang (and pointing to a termcap...) or
> ncurses.
> (c) some packagers have local patches to the terminal database (and
> introduce problems).
I can confirmed that bash and wyrd running on xterm can distinguish
between tab and shift tab.
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dickey
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, dickey wrote:
> > it shouldn't require other settings (since it's built-in)
> > But a few of the things that can go wrong:
> between tab and shift tab.
resource-settings.
I'd check the terminal description first, looking at the output from
infocmp.
It should have a string for kcbt, e.g., kcbt=\E[Z,
bill lam
>
> On Nov 16, 1:02 am, bill lam <cbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, dickey wrote:
> > > it shouldn't require other settings (since it's built-in)
> > > But a few of the things that can go wrong:
> ...
> > I can confirmed that bash and wyrd running on xterm can distinguish
> > between tab and shift tab.
>
> Then the problem with vim and mutt is (at least) not in xterm's
> resource-settings.
> I'd check the terminal description first, looking at the output from
> infocmp.
> It should have a string for kcbt, e.g., kcbt=\E[Z,
Thank you for help. It turned out I export $TERMCAP in .bashrc for
vi (old vi) that did not include in backtab entry. Now all work well.
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