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Steve Schulin

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Oct 17, 2007, 10:14:01 AM10/17/07
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Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and Europe
during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.

Best wishes,

Steve Schulin
http://www.nuclear.com
and coming soon: http://www.calamitology.com

Weather Action - The Long Range Forecasters

News Release - Oct 16, 2007

>From Weather Action Special News Conference Oct 16th 2007 on 20th
Anniversary of the Great Storm of 1987

Massive storms to hit Britain & Europe.

- part of solar-driven world wide extreme weather events -

- It's the sun not CO2 scientist warns.

- Astro-scientist warns of massive damaging storms -- caused
by solar activity not CO2 -- to strike Europe in three waves between
late October and the end of November. Typhoons and extreme storm
events worldwide also expected.

- Third wave to hit on the 304th anniversary of the
devastating tempest of 1703.

- The total damage likely to exceed that of the Great Storm of
1987 and aspects of the storms may have more in common with the
devastating Tempest of 1703

- Nobel Committee challenged to remove award from Al Gore.

At a special press Conference on the 20th anniversary of the Great
Storm of 1987 which struck Southern England Piers Corbyn
astrophysicist of Weather Action long range forecasters -- who
correctly predicted the summer severe flooding events in Britain from
months ahead - issued a chilling warning that three waves of storms
will hit Britain and Europe between late October and the end of
November causing £ billions of damage. "There will also be extreme
typhoon and other storm events across the world at around the same
times" he said.

"These storm events are caused by solar particle and magnetic effects
which we can predict. They are nothing to do with Carbon Dioxide or so-
called man-made Global Warming" In the public interest, because of
their importance Weather Action are -- unusually - making these
forecasts public well in advance.

Piers appealed to the media to warn the public so preparations can be
made and warned that "The Global Warming lobby will try and suppress
these forecasts and the cause of these extreme weather events so they
can claim they are caused by their barmy CO2 driven ideas. They did
this during the summer in Britain when even though their forecast had
been for a possible 'scorcher' and the opposite happened they slyly
and without foundation claimed the floods were extreme events driven
by CO2. The truth is we at Weather Action forecast the floods and
they were driven by special Sun-Earth particle and magnetic effects".

PTO

The three periods for which Weather Action are 90% confident there
will be severe damaging storms:

* October 26th to 31st or Nov 1st. Storm gusts of 80 to 100mph in
places. This is likely to be a major storm period but probably only a
'warm-up' for what is to come in November. It is good there is now no
election (eg on Nov 1st ) because the election period would have been
severely disrupted (NB warning of the storms was passed on to the
Labour leadership). The storm will track East and likely (80%
confident) affect Holland, Denmark, South Norway, South Sweden and
parts of North Germany.

* 8th-13th November. Storm / hurricane force Gusts of 90 to 110
mph and tornado type developments. Probably worse in Scotland and
Northern Ireland than South England. The storm will track East and
bring damage to a band of N Europe which is likely to include (80%
confident) Bergen, Oslo, Stockholm, Helsinki and possibly St
Petersburg.

* 24th to 28th November. Storm/hurricane gusts of 90mph to 130 mph.
Probably worst in central/South British Isles. This is the 304th
anniversary of the devastating tempest of 26th/27th November (modern
calendar dates) 1703. Likely track (80% confident) of damage
eastwards: Holland, Denmark, N Germany, South Sweden and parts of
Baltic States and Finland.

These forecasts will be updated particularly in early November in view
of late October events. Contact Weather Action for the latest
information.

Piers called on the Norwegian Nobel committee to withdraw their award
to Al Gore because it was a desecration of the good name of the Nobel
prize - it being awarded for "the deliberate propagation of proven
falsity". He said "Ironically Nature and Physics are having their
revenge. Norway -- the home of this Nobel award -- will be hit hard
by these storms -- caused by Solar activity not CO2. The Global
warmers couldn't have predicted them!"

Charter for Climate Truth

Piers said that the world scientific effort on Climate Science is
operating at a very low level of integrity and put forward a 2 point
Charter for Climate Truth.

1. Prove and predict. Basic standards of science should be
applied in Climate science and any theory of Climate Change must be
tested against available recorded data and testable specific
predictions made.

2. Naming & Shaming. Scientists or journalists who make baseless
claims on Climate should be 'named and shamed'.

Information.

The Great Storm of 1987 is one of the most significant weather events
in Britain and Europe for the last 100 years and the Tempest of 1703
was the most devastating storm in Europe for 300 years.

Traditional meteorology in Britain failed to forecast the Great Storm
of 1987 but lessons from that event have been applied by Weather
Action whose unrivalled Solar Weather Technique of long range
forecasting predicted the summer floods and would have been able to
forecast both the Great Storm of 1987 and the Tempest of 1703 from
many months ahead.

Concerning excuses from 'Global warmers' that they disregard Piers
Corbyn's views on CO2 because he had not revealed the details of his
Solar Weather Technique he said: "UNLIKE all traditional meteorology
attempts at long range forecasting my work is independently proven to
- in peer-reviewed literature - have SIGNIFICANT SKILL. (see refs in
forecasts). The Solar Weather Technique's (proprietarial) disclosure
or not is NOTHING to do with the fact that peer-reviewed published
material (by OTHERS) shows there is NO evidence that CO2 drives or
ever has driven weather and climate and indeed shows evidence of the
opposite. The GWers saying they don't know how the SWT works is
totally irrelevant and a pathetic ignorant attempt to dodge the proven
failure of their bankrupt avaricious theory.

Previous News Release...Gore Blimey! information

Piers Corbyn, astrophysicist of Weather Action, long range
forecasters, appeared on 12th Oct on BBCNews24 concerning Al Gore's
Nobel award, (5pm interviewe by Gavin Esler - along with Friends Of
Earth) and said:

(1) "This award is desecration of the good name of the Nobel Prize
as it is for deliberate propagation of proven falsity. The climate
models Gore propagates have as much in common with reality as the
financial models used to make the sub-prime mortgage market. Both are
driven by avarice, this one is about control of world energy supply.

(2) (in response to FoE 'consensus is right') "Science does not
advance by consensus it requires observation and testable hypotheses.
There is NO evidence, I repeat NO evidence, that CO2 increases have
ever had or ever will drive temperature rises or climate change. But
the chickens are coming home to roost if you like and physics will
have its revenge because Scandinavia (the home of the Nobel committee)
will be hit by serious damaging storms caused by solar activity
around : the end of October, 9-13th November; and 24th-27th November.
What is Al Gore's or Friends of the Earth's forecast?"

Points Piers would have made if there had been time:

(3) "CO2 driven climate theory can forecast nothing whereas solar
activity can"

(4) "There are many pollutants such as smoke and chemicals which need
action but CO2 is not a pollutant. I support the electrification of
Africa not the holding back of the developing world.

(5) "The IPCC is actually very circumspect in its report on many
matters; so linking of the prizes to Gore and the IPCC gives false
credibility to Gore's climate jihadism.

(6) "Gore's operation is brainwashing political pseudo science and
maybe next we will hear about retrospective prizes to be given to
Goebels and Stalin for their anti-science propaganda machines.

(7) "The Channel4 'Great Global Warming Swindle' film should be shown
alongside this one in all schools so pupils can discuss.

(8) "World temperatures have been declining - averaged in pairs of
years - since 2002/03 while CO2 levels have been rising.

* If you wish for a copy of Weather Action's Summer and September
forecast and assessments (including our letter to Gordon Brown in
July) please phone or E mail back

* Full 44 slides as produced by Weather Action for Institute Of
Physics Climate Change Seminar 7th June available on request .

---

Weather Action - The Long Range Forecasters
Delta House, 175-177 Borough High Street. London SE1 1HR Tel +44(0)20
7939 9946 E: pi...@weatheraction.com
From: Piers Corbyn 07958713320 (or office above)

Ouroboros_Rex

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Best wishes,

Too funny! lol


Col

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Oct 17, 2007, 1:41:36 PM10/17/07
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> October 26th to 31st or Nov 1st. Storm gusts of 80 to 100mph in
>places. This is likely to be a major storm period but probably only a
>'warm-up' for what is to come in November. It is good there is now no
>election (eg on Nov 1st ) because the election period would have been
>severely disrupted (NB warning of the storms was passed on to the
>Labour leadership). The storm will track East and likely (80%
>confident) affect Holland, Denmark, South Norway, South Sweden and
>parts of North Germany.

Ah, so now we know the truth behing the election that never was,
nothing to do with poor opinion polls then!

80-100 mph, eh?

Just watch Corbyn clain 'victory' with a gust of 80 mph in an
exposed location during a 'normal' autumn gale, on any one of
those dates in that week.

The chances of that I would imagine wouldn't be particularly low,
especially if you considerthe Northern Isles and mountain tops
in the Highlands.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


Roger Coppock

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Oct 17, 2007, 3:34:53 PM10/17/07
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Title:
Solar Weather Technique forecasts: massive storms to hit Britain and
Europe (Oct 26-31, Nov 8-13 and Nov 24-28)

On Oct 17, 7:14 am, Steve Schulin <steve.schu...@nuclear.com> wrote:
> Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
> yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
> Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and Europe
> during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.

Name any three 5-day periods in November and late
October, and one is bound to get at least one storm
somewhere in Britain and Europe.

However, it should be interesting to see how long
you hang on to this stupid lie, and who you con
with this cock-and-bull story, Steve.

Roger Coppock

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Oct 17, 2007, 3:37:32 PM10/17/07
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Title:
Solar Weather Technique forecasts: massive storms to hit Britain and
Europe (Oct 26-31, Nov 8-13 and Nov 24-28)

On Oct 17, 7:14 am, Steve Schulin <steve.schu...@nuclear.com> wrote:

> Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
> yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
> Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and Europe
> during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.

Name any three 5-day periods in November and late


October, and one is bound to get at least one storm

somewhere in Britain and Europe during the periods.

Will Hand

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Oct 17, 2007, 3:52:32 PM10/17/07
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Yawn, boring.

Meanwhile in the real world the temperature is falling smartly at Haytor and is
now 7C at 2050.

Will
--


Richard Dixon

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Oct 17, 2007, 4:27:44 PM10/17/07
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Steve Schulin <steve....@nuclear.com> wrote in
news:1192630441.9...@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
> yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
> Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and Europe
> during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.

Everyone's favourite weather charlatan publishes his attention-seeking
inaccurate forecasts at a perfect time for maximum media effect.

Watch him go quiet and not issue a press release when the forecast doesn't
come off.

Richard

Bill Habr

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Oct 17, 2007, 4:32:33 PM10/17/07
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Mike Tullett

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Oct 17, 2007, 4:54:45 PM10/17/07
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:34:53 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote in
<news:1192649693.1...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

> On Oct 17, 7:14 am, Steve Schulin <steve.schu...@nuclear.com> wrote:
>> Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
>> yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
>> Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and Europe
>> during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.
>
> Name any three 5-day periods in November and late
> October, and one is bound to get at least one storm
> somewhere in Britain and Europe.

IIRC Corbyn tried the same forecast of gales last autumn/winter and not one
materialised.

Cross posts deleted.

--
Mike Tullett - Coleraine 55.13°N 6.69°W posted 17/10/2007 20:54:45 GMT

xnic...@hotmail.com

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Oct 17, 2007, 8:53:41 PM10/17/07
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On 17 Oct, 15:14, Steve Schulin <steve.schu...@nuclear.com> wrote:
> Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
> yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
> Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and Europe
> during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Steve Schulinhttp://www.nuclear.com

Right, I'll check that one. (He got his last storm warning wrong)
I remember Piers in the lift at Russell Square tube station, wearing a
crash helmet, after the Demo at Red Lion Square.
He was waxing lyrical about how they'd have done it in France. I
think he may have swapped it for tin-foil these days.

Phil Hays

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Oct 17, 2007, 11:25:06 PM10/17/07
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Steve Schulin wrote:

> Piers Corbyn

Is at about 0 for 8, and now trying for 0 for 11.

A honest random number generator could give better forecasts.


--
Phil Hays


chemist

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Oct 18, 2007, 2:16:07 AM10/18/07
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He forecast the lousy summer just as all my friends
recognise I did.

chemist

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Oct 18, 2007, 2:22:06 AM10/18/07
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On Oct 17, 8:34 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
> Title:

> with this cock-and-bull story, Steve.

The real cock-and-bull story is that CO2 shows GHG
properties in School experiments.
Tell me Roger Coppock.
Why you can't pull the same trick with Methane ?

chemist

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Oct 18, 2007, 2:23:35 AM10/18/07
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On Oct 17, 5:27 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
> "Steve Schulin" <steve.schu...@nuclear.com> wrote in message

>
> news:1192630441.9...@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
> yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
> Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and Europe
> during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Steve Schulinhttp://www.nuclear.com

It won't be if Piers is right will it ?

Jack (jack.harrison@gmail.com)

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Oct 18, 2007, 2:39:09 AM10/18/07
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I saw a TV programme many years ago that featured Mr.Corbyn in earnest
conversations with bookmakers (Ladbrokes I think). Corbyn himself
more or less admitted that he was a con man but had struck up this
deal with the bookies that they would pay out when he got the obvious
forecast correct, ie the equivalent of paying out if today's forecast
of clear skies turns out to be correct. The bookmaker gained by the
publicity generated in showing just how honest they were and that you
could bet on almost anything - they would always honour that bet. I
certainly finished up with the impression was that Mr.Corbyn and the
bookies were both being rather clever but I did have my doubts about
the reliability of the forecasts.

Jack

Tom Allen

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Oct 18, 2007, 7:18:47 AM10/18/07
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"chemist" <tom-b...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 17, 5:27 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
>> "Steve Schulin" <steve.schu...@nuclear.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192630441.9...@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
>>>yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
>>> Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and
>>> Europe
>>> during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.
>>>
>snippit

>>
>>> "These storm events are caused by solar particle and magnetic
>>> effects
>>> which we can predict. They are nothing to do with Carbon Dioxide or
>>> so-
>>> called man-made Global Warming"
>>
>> Too funny! lol
>
>t won't be if Piers is right will it ?

He can't be wrong - the public will not remember the dates or wind
speeds and if there are any gales between now and Merry Christmas he
will claim he was right. In the unlikely event that there aren't he
will keep quiet and the public will say 'They' got it wrong again.

Tom


Bill Habr

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Oct 18, 2007, 7:24:04 AM10/18/07
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Odd thing, I have emailed Piers about solar activity in the past and never received a
reply. Since we are near minimum activity (a very, very quiet sun) it is no wonder that he
wouldn't (couldn't?) answer my questions about basic solar activity.


Martin Brown

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Oct 18, 2007, 8:31:01 AM10/18/07
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He's a con-man and charlatan pure and simple. He has no scientific
credibility whatsoever. And for the record the longest running record
of solar activity is from Wolfs data, the Zurich sunspot number
(although modern measures are now more accurate). It is available
online for historic data and also the most recent cycle at

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/SSN/ssn.html

Note that measuring the Earths magnetic field behaviour can under some
circumstance be used to predict future long term solar activity during
parts of the solar cycle. Auroral emissions at high altitudes near the
poles are fun but the solar wind has little or no effect on the
troposphere. Transient induced current effects across the Canada power
grid sufficient to trip circuit breakers in extreme geomagnetic storms
is about the limit.

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/predict.shtml

And for would be aurora watchers

http://www.spaceweather.com/

Tonight or tomorrow night are decent candidates for a bit of a display
at high latitudes.
Note that these are all genuine science sites and not Daily Express
bullshite fodder.

Mr Corbyns long range weather "forecasts" are about as useful as "rain
or go dark before morning" predictions.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Bill Habr

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Oct 18, 2007, 9:00:50 AM10/18/07
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"Martin Brown" <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1192710661.6...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> On Oct 18, 12:24 pm, "Bill Habr" <billh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Odd thing, I have emailed Piers about solar activity in the past and never received a
> > reply. Since we are near minimum activity (a very, very quiet sun) it is no wonder
that he
> > wouldn't (couldn't?) answer my questions about basic solar activity.
>
> He's a con-man and charlatan pure and simple. He has no scientific
> credibility whatsoever. And for the record the longest running record
> of solar activity is from Wolfs data, the Zurich sunspot number
> (although modern measures are now more accurate). It is available
> online for historic data and also the most recent cycle at
>
> http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/SSN/ssn.html

I know, I just wondered if Piers would cite anything.

HangEveryRepubliKKKan

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Oct 19, 2007, 4:24:59 PM10/19/07
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"chemist" <tom-b...@ntlworld.com> wrote

> The real cock-and-bull story is that CO2 shows GHG
> properties in School experiments.

The real purpose of the experiments of course, is to get them in the dark
so that scientists can run their chemically stained old man fingers between
the moist, hairless, forbidden places between the legs of the cute little
prepubescent girls in the science class.

"Stand over here in the cloak room, bambi, you can see the effect best
from here." - Evil Dr. Science
"Ok Dr. Science. Will it help if I bend over like this?" - Bambi.

Yes, the great global warming conspiracy is all about Nerdy old men and
the 11 year olds girls of whom they lust.

Or so think the KKKonservative KKKwacks.


HangEveryRepubliKKKan

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Oct 19, 2007, 4:25:38 PM10/19/07
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"chemist" <tom-b...@ntlworld.com> wrote

> It won't be if Piers is right will it ?

No chance of that QuackBoy.

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