Wanker of the week.
Lozzo
white/red RD250F sitting outside. So I stopped and had a look round it,
and while it was all there and very original it had been seriously
neglected. The front mudguard was rotten right though and pitted
throughout the whole surface with thousands of small rust spots that had
eaten right into the chrome. The forks were rusted and pitted and the
genewral condition of it suggested it had been used little or
infrequently then stored in a damp shed for many many years without
running.
I ran a hand under the seat base and found that good and it still has
the side rails, and the rear mudguard, now as rare as rocking horse
shit, was sound if in need of rechroming. It even has the toolkit in
it's original holder under the seat, but it needs serious work that
would involve a frame repaint and engine rebuild to make it worthwhile
owning. Matey who owns the shop was out so I left a card for him to call
me back.
He didn't call, so as I was passing the same place later I popped in
again. Matey was there and came out as I looked at the bike again. he
told me he's owned it for 3 years and it's sat there doing nothing so he
wants to sell. According to him it needs some duraglit on the mudguard.
Well, the last time I used Duraglit it didn't weld fucking great holes
in metal and rechrome mudguards, so I think he's being a trifle
optimistic. He says fresh petrol and it'll run like a dream for
thousands of miles before needing a rebuild. That's bollocks, I wouldn't
trust a 10K mile old RD250 that's been sat for years without putting new
crank seals and rings in at least. I asked how much he wanted, and he
gave me a load of flannel about putting it in Autotrader etc and seing
what it would make, so I said "You've got a figure in mind, what is
it?" "I won't take less than £1250 for it" he responds.
It took me great strength of will to stop myself from laughing out loud
in his face. I explained it was a bit too rich for my liking and said
he'd be lucky to get anywhere near 500 quid for it from anyone who knows
RDs. He said he'd seen Fizzies for 2 grand, so I explained that I'd seen
shit Fizzies being sold recently for 200 quid too. He asked me "And what
makes you so sure that it won't fetch that sort of money, you some sort
of expert?". I merely said I'd owned quite a few RDs in my time and he
asked roughly how many, so I told him. He went a bit quiet then.
I couldn't be bothered to argue with him any more after that, but if
anyone sees a red/white RD250F being sold near darsy's abode[1], don't
pay the asking price. It's a dog that would be a nice bike after about a
grand has been spent. It's not worth what he wants, not by a long chalk
and be careful of the seller's bullshit, he's full of it.
[1] It's not at the Neil Harris shop I hasten to add.
--
Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
GSF600SW (broked)
'I do not object to people looking at their watches when I am speaking.
But I strongly object when they start shaking them to make certain they
are still going.' William Norman Birkett, 1st Baron Birkett, Oct 1960.
Kenny
"Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fac59c15...@news.individual.net...
Why oh why do posters here suggest they have in depth knowledge regarding a
particular make/model of bike, then make a post that suggests this
"knowledge" is somewhat lacking to say the least!
A fucked old RD is likely to need the best part of a grand spent on the
motor alone, and when add up all the rest thats likely to be needed a poor
bike, is going to need at least £2k spent, and probably even more.
So I for one think the "Wanker of Week" award should go to Lozzo, who seems
very adept at talking out of his arse, but doesnt know a great deal about
restoring knackered old RDs!
k
Alan Crowder
"Kenny" <bubb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4542...@212.67.96.135...
> So I for one think the "Wanker of Week" award should go to Lozzo, who
> seems very adept at talking out of his arse, but doesnt know a great deal
> about restoring knackered old RDs!
I have snipped a load of stuff out, and i dont profess to know anything
about RD250's apart from they went like hell when i was a lad, but given
i have been reading this group for years and years i felt i had to say
something,
i'd trust Lozzo's word, never met the guy but 'mostly' talks sense.
Sometime not tho, sometimes rubbish.
Alan
--
BOTAFOT #148
VFR800ABS for Fun, Landcruiser for Comfort.
Bear
> So I for one think the "Wanker of Week" award should go to Lozzo, who seems
> very adept at talking out of his arse, but doesnt know a great deal about
> restoring knackered old RDs!
Priceless :)
PS. Learn to post properly, you clueless cunt.
--
Bear
Dan L
>
<snip>
Heh, wanker of the week post, and the first one to reply is Kenny Boi,
wanker of the millenium.
DoetNietComputeren
>A fucked old RD is likely to need the best part of a grand
>spent on the motor alone,
Okay then, you got me biting - how do you figure this? Break it down for
me because I'[m struggling to think of how many bits will be needed to
spend a grand, when Lozzo would do all the work himself.
--
Dnc
B12, ZZR11
A6 2.5TDi V6 Quattro Sport
MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
The Older Gentleman
And he's morphed again. Lost his ISP too, I shouldn't wonder. And he's
still in debt....
--
BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 Z650
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
Bear
Ahhhhhh ... right, so he's morphed *again*
Didn't realise, soz.
--
Bear
Beav
"DoetNietComputeren" <doesnotcompu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4qf2seF...@individual.net...
> Kenny wrote:
>
> >A fucked old RD is likely to need the best part of a grand
> >spent on the motor alone,
>
> Okay then, you got me biting - how do you figure this? Break it down for
> me because I'[m struggling to think of how many bits will be needed to
> spend a grand,
Let alone 2 grand just on the motor.
when Lozzo would do all the work himself.
Ken's one of those wot "gets a man in". Probably regularly too.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
Kenny
"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.mur...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
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Would you be able to properly rebuild a fucked old RD for £1k then?
k
Kenny
Even if he did all the work himself, and can get parts for next to nothing,
and is able to do rebores, rebuild cranks, and rechrome fork legs, then its
certainly going to cost quite a bit more than £1k!
k
Kenny
"Beav" <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote in message
news:O0t0h.22306$iq4....@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
I suppose then he is able to rebuild the crank (and that doesnt only mean
changing outer bearings and seals), carry out rebores, and rechrome fork
legs, and get hold of all the parts needed for next to nothing?
This guy is talking out of his arse, and knows next to nothing about
rebuilding a bike.
k
Whinging Courier
following:
> Dan L <dan.y...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Kenny tossed off:
> >
> > >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Heh, wanker of the week post, and the first one to reply is Kenny Boi,
> > wanker of the millenium.
>
>
> And he's morphed again. Lost his ISP too, I shouldn't wonder. And he's
> still in debt....
You mean your newsreader couldn't tell?
How quaint.
--
CBR1000 GS450 XT660X
BOMB#14 ibW#40 LotR#0 BOTAFOT#157 BotM#3
DoetNietComputeren
>>> A fucked old RD is likely to need the best part of a grand
>>> spent on the motor alone,
>> Okay then, you got me biting - how do you figure this? Break it down for
>> me because I'[m struggling to think of how many bits will be needed to
>> spend a grand, when Lozzo would do all the work himself.
>
> Even if he did all the work himself, and can get parts for next to nothing,
> and is able to do rebores, rebuild cranks, and rechrome fork legs, then its
> certainly going to cost quite a bit more than £1k!
Nononono, you don't get away that easily, you said, ".. a grand on the
motor alone," so spill it out, how does one spend a grand on fixing a motor?
The Older Gentleman
> > And he's morphed again. Lost his ISP too, I shouldn't wonder. And he's
> > still in debt....
>
> You mean your newsreader couldn't tell?
Didn't bother to look.
Whinging Courier
following:
> Whinging Courier <markonusene...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > And he's morphed again. Lost his ISP too, I shouldn't wonder. And he's
> > > still in debt....
> >
> > You mean your newsreader couldn't tell?
>
> Didn't bother to look.
Exactly and I'd have not known he posted either...
Steve Parry
> Kenny wrote:
>
>>>> A fucked old RD is likely to need the best part of a grand
>>>> spent on the motor alone,
>
>>> Okay then, you got me biting - how do you figure this? Break it down for
>>> me because I'[m struggling to think of how many bits will be needed to
>>> spend a grand, when Lozzo would do all the work himself.
>>
>> Even if he did all the work himself, and can get parts for next to
>> nothing, and is able to do rebores, rebuild cranks, and rechrome fork
>> legs, then its certainly going to cost quite a bit more than £1k!
>
> Nononono, you don't get away that easily, you said, ".. a grand on the
> motor alone," so spill it out, how does one spend a grand on fixing a
edited :)
--
Steve Parry
K100RS SE & F650
and a 520i SE Touring for comfort
Alison Hopkins
Would you be able to post, type or spell correctly?
Ali
Beav
Total for that lot wouldn't even come close to 500 quid, you plumb.
>
> This guy is talking out of his arse, and knows next to nothing about
> rebuilding a bike.
Is that right? Of course, you'd know. After all, you've not even managed to
grasp the techicalities of snipping fucking sigs, have you?
Spete
<snip>
>>> Heh, wanker of the week post, and the first one to reply is Kenny Boi,
>>> wanker of the millenium.
>>
>>
>> And he's morphed again. Lost his ISP too, I shouldn't wonder. And he's
>> still in debt....
>>
>
> Would you be able to properly rebuild a fucked old RD for £1k then?
He *may* not be able to, but by the sound of things, you couldn't even
afford it.
--
Spete
Kenny
Pretty easily if you want to do the job half right! The likes of Lozzo are
probably going to rebuild a crank by changing the outer bearings and oil
seals though, so its possible to save money by bodging.
k
DoetNietComputeren
>>>>> A fucked old RD is likely to need the best part of a grand
>>>>> spent on the motor alone,
>>>> Okay then, you got me biting - how do you figure this? Break it down for
>>>> me because I'[m struggling to think of how many bits will be needed to
>>>> spend a grand, when Lozzo would do all the work himself.
>>> Even if he did all the work himself, and can get parts for next to
>>> nothing, and is able to do rebores, rebuild cranks, and rechrome fork
>>> legs, then its certainly going to cost quite a bit more than £1k!
>> Nononono, you don't get away that easily, you said, ".. a grand on the
>> motor alone," so spill it out, how does one spend a grand on fixing a
>> motor?
> Pretty easily if you want to do the job half right! The likes of Lozzo are
> probably going to rebuild a crank by changing the outer bearings and oil
> seals though, so its possible to save money by bodging.
Well, that's twice, lets go for a third time, with less syllables:
Give us a list of costs for re-build-ing an RD motor, that would cost
over a grand.
Spete
<snip>
>>> Even if he did all the work himself, and can get parts for next to
>>> nothing, and is able to do rebores, rebuild cranks, and rechrome fork
>>> legs, then its certainly going to cost quite a bit more than £1k!
>>
>> Nononono, you don't get away that easily, you said, ".. a grand on the
>> motor alone," so spill it out, how does one spend a grand on fixing a
>> motor?
>
> Pretty easily if you want to do the job half right! The likes of Lozzo are
> probably going to rebuild a crank by changing the outer bearings and oil
> seals though, so its possible to save money by bodging.
I'm planning on rebuilding one of these bikes and am very curious how.
Please give me a step by step and how much the parts are, oh enlightened
one.
--
Spete
Andy Bonwick
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>"Kenny" <bubb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4542...@212.67.96.135...
snip>
>>
>> I suppose then he is able to rebuild the crank (and that doesnt only mean
>> changing outer bearings and seals), carry out rebores, and rechrome fork
>> legs, and get hold of all the parts needed for next to nothing?
>
>Total for that lot wouldn't even come close to 500 quid, you plumb.
>
It'd be even less if need be because even though I changed job earlier
this year I can still get rebores and chroming done FOC. I'd only do
it to show up a cunt like Kenny but that's not the point.
Steve Parry
> Andy Bonwick <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
> <2056k29nk50192m41...@4ax.com>:
>
> Crank rebuild: 200- (I had a triple done 10 years ago for 350 or so)
> Rebore: 50-
> Pistos 50-
> Rings 50-
> Small ends 15-
> Base gaskets 10-
> Head gasket 15-
> Read gasket 10-
> Read valves 30-
> Clutch gasket 10-
> Alternator ga. 10-
>
> So that's about 450- based on guesses at prices likely to be on the high
> side. I don't think it likely the gearbox is fucked.
>
> However RDs aren't my thing; I've only owned one (GOA ???N, RD350B where
> are you now?) and that was about 25 years ago... so there's a good
> chance my prices are out.
http://www.stanstephens.com/classic.htm not as bad price as I'd thought.
Bear
> http://www.stanstephens.com/classic.htm not as bad price as I'd thought.
Is that *him*him, or the CompanyHim?
The latter couldn't complete a 4 piece jigsaw without fucking it up, as
in I've known several many people who've been seriously ripped off with
shoddy work by them. "Best" was a megabucks 350LC rebuild & road tune
that lasted precisely 15 minutes, and that's 15 mins of running-in revs,
not 15 mins of thrashing. *3* further attempts at the same job just
ended up completely wrecking the engine, at considerable cost to the
owner. The attitude from them throughout was "tough shit". Utter, utter
wankers.
Last I heard he'd set himself back up as just him, with better results.
Doesn't stop him being a cunt for the shit work he allowed to happen in
his name, mind.
<looks>
"I started my own motorcycle business in the early 1970s and made our
reputation tuning two-strokes and building two-stroke engines, a
business I have continued to the present day! YOUR ENGINE COULD NOT BE
IN MORE EXPERIENCED HANDS".
Oh deary, deary me.
--
Bear
Steve Parry
Seconded ... ."Oh deary, deary me..."
I've never had any work done by SS or his ilk of the 2T time period, they
were just a name that was bandied about (as was um er Terry Shepherd?). I,
had the "pleasure" of doing rebuilds on my own machines myself. This, I now
see, was a fantastic learning experience and built up my spanner twirling
skills to the point that I am happy tackling just about any job on the bike
(not on the car though just cos I hate working on cars, don't know why, it's
just working on the bike is a labour of love. Doing the same to a car is
just a pain.
I just figured their prices would be indicative (even perhaps a tad dearer
because of trading on a (seemingly dubious) name), and had some factual
figures to the "debate".
Kenny
Like to know where to get that work done properly for £500?
k
Kenny
<dead...@burnt.org.uk> wrote in message
news:if56k29til3c28lsj...@4ax.com...> <2056k29nk50192m41...@4ax.com>:
>
> Crank rebuild: 200- (I had a triple done 10 years ago for 350 or so)
> Rebore: 50-
> Pistos 50-
> Rings 50-
> Small ends 15-
> Base gaskets 10-
> Head gasket 15-
> Read gasket 10-
> Read valves 30-
> Clutch gasket 10-
> Alternator ga. 10-
>
> So that's about 450- based on guesses at prices likely to be on the high
> side. I don't think it likely the gearbox is fucked.
>
> However RDs aren't my thing; I've only owned one (GOA ???N, RD350B where
> are you now?) and that was about 25 years ago... so there's a good
> chance my prices are out.
Its very very easy to make up prices off the top of your head, but a little
harder to grasp the fact that the real world is a little different to your
bullshit fantasy one!
And would have been amused to see the result of decorative chrome, on the
way an RDs forks worked.
k
Kenny
"Bear" <bastard...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fad3b652...@news.individual.de...
Stan Stephens is one of the biggest shysters out there.................he is
very good at relieving fuckwits of spare cash though!
k
Kenny
<dead...@burnt.org.uk> wrote in message
news:ice6k29avod507o3m...@4ax.com...
> "Steve Parry" <k100rs_199...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> <4qgnh9F...@individual.net>:
>
>>dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>
>>> Well, even if you have to cough for parts, what's likely to be needed?
>>>
>>> Crank rebuild: 200- (I had a triple done 10 years ago for 350 or so)
>>> Rebore: 50-
>>> Pistos 50-
>>> Rings 50-
>>> Small ends 15-
>>> Base gaskets 10-
>>> Head gasket 15-
>>> Read gasket 10-
>>> Read valves 30-
>>> Clutch gasket 10-
>>> Alternator ga. 10-
>>>
>>> So that's about 450- based on guesses at prices likely to be on the high
>>> side. I don't think it likely the gearbox is fucked.
>>>
>>> However RDs aren't my thing; I've only owned one (GOA ???N, RD350B where
>>> are you now?) and that was about 25 years ago... so there's a good
>>> chance my prices are out.
>>
>>http://www.stanstephens.com/classic.htm not as bad price as I'd thought.
>
You are looking at around £800 to properly rebuild a poorly maintained RD
engine.
That leaves that prick Lozzo only £200 to get all the cycle parts,
electrics, wheels, suspension, brakes, tyres, and paint,
done.................why not just admit he is an eggsucking prick and leave
it at that?
k
Kenny
"Spete" <ne...@spete.net> wrote in message
news:45431091$0$9463$9a62...@news.kpnplanet.nl...
In regard to something like a poor RD, if you dont mind paying more than
double what the bikes going to be worth when finished, then go ahead with
your rebuild.
If you can grasp the fact that costs far outweigh final value, then go ahead
with it.
k
DoetNietComputeren
> You are looking at around £800 to properly rebuild a poorly maintained RD
> engine.
So not a grand as you've previously argued then?
Pip
<doesnotcompu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>So not a grand as you've previously argued then?
Bargain troll! Plenty cheapness! RRP on this troll one thousand
pounds! You save two hundred pounds!
--
Pip: B12
DoetNietComputeren
>> So not a grand as you've previously argued then?
>
> Bargain troll! Plenty cheapness! RRP on this troll one thousand
> pounds! You save two hundred pounds!
<g> not bad for a little bit of bargaining was it.
Spete
Now, I'm not English so probably I'm missing something here. Your answer
seems to not have *anything* to do with my question. Where's the step by
step plan including costs, possibly even where I can get them. Go on, spout
the expertise you claim to have.
--
Spete
Andy Bonwick
He's a nobber and that's being kind to him. The only reason I reply to
his posts is that he's so fucked up when it comes to engineering that
I like to point it out to him. I'm always learning new stuff in the
course of my work (1) but he gets the chance to do the same on usenet.
(1) This week I found out that if you crack a pipe flange on a line
that's supposed to have been purged then you end up burping toxic
gasses all evening. I enjoyed my lesson so much that I did it a second
time and still didn't bitch to the cunts that had assured me the
system was clear.
Pip
<nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:16:58 +0100, Pip
><gingerbl...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>Bargain troll! Plenty cheapness! RRP on this troll one thousand
>>pounds! You save two hundred pounds!
>
>He's a nobber and that's being kind to him. The only reason I reply to
>his posts is that he's so fucked up when it comes to engineering that
>I like to point it out to him. I'm always learning new stuff in the
>course of my work (1) but he gets the chance to do the same on usenet.
That's so nice for him. He is a singular being, devoid of any skills
it seems in engineering, debating or responding - not to mention the
complete absence of a sense of humour and ability to hold his saliva
in his gob.
>
>(1) This week I found out that if you crack a pipe flange on a line
>that's supposed to have been purged then you end up burping toxic
>gasses all evening. I enjoyed my lesson so much that I did it a second
>time and still didn't bitch to the cunts that had assured me the
>system was clear.
That must have been exciting. Going back for the second attempt
should put you in line for a YTC#, if they were still available.
I learned from a local old engineer who was engaged to do a job for
Cranfield Uni, that aluminium alloy is available which resists a blow
from a ball-pein hammer better than mild steel, turns more easily than
mild steel, is a fraction of the weight of steel and costs so much
that he was kacking himself all the way in case he fucked up.
It was a specific alloy and two 18" x 4" lumps cost him iro 3k.
--
Pip: B12
Andy Bonwick
<gingerbl...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:06:13 +0100, Andy Bonwick
><nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
>
snip>
>>(1) This week I found out that if you crack a pipe flange on a line
>>that's supposed to have been purged then you end up burping toxic
>>gasses all evening. I enjoyed my lesson so much that I did it a second
>>time and still didn't bitch to the cunts that had assured me the
>>system was clear.
>
>That must have been exciting. Going back for the second attempt
>should put you in line for a YTC#, if they were still available.
>
I should have been suspicious because initially we were told to wear
BA and then we were told it was clear but we had to have a gas monitor
to record levels and do the tap into the line in our lunch break when
nobody was around. The gas monitor went postal and the plant operators
who were there to witness the work suggested that retreating from the
area might be a good idea.
Kenny
Comments about someones elses engineering skills, are rather amusing when
they come from a complete fucktard who suggested a possibly lethal "repair"
to a worn g/box bearing!
k
Kenny
If you can post some pics of the bike you want to restore, and an idea of
what final standard you are looking for, then I will be able to give you a
pretty good idea of cost.
k
Spete
<snip>
> If you can post some pics of the bike you want to restore, and an idea of
> what final standard you are looking for, then I will be able to give you a
> pretty good idea of cost.
Can't do. Firstly, as posting pictures on UKRM is frowned upon, secondly, I
don't have the bike. I want to make sure I will be able to afford it. If you
need an exanple, go by the story Lozzo told. This should give me a ball-park
figure.
Go on, oh Clever One, share your knowledge instead of hiding behind excuses.
You've been given ample opportunities to do so.
--
Spete
catman
<snip>
> If you can post some pics of the bike you want to restore, and an idea of
> what final standard you are looking for, then I will be able to give you a
> pretty good idea of cost.
>
> k
>
>
That's really good. Now do Michael Jackson
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Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2
Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits
www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
Andy Bonwick
Why don't you ask the cunt to come and look at the bike with you? We
can all meet up and ask him questions.
Spete
Here's a pic to get you on your way:
http://www.kev.mercury-moon.co.uk/bikes/yamaha-rd250/t-Mvc-016f.jpg
-
Spete
The Older Gentleman
Here's another, of a finished project.
http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/CB400F.1.jpg
Bought in reasonably good mechanical order. Shagged Motad exhaust. Been
standing for a while.
Mechanical work done:
Camchain tensioner unseized. Crankshaft oil gallery seal replaced (right
hand end of crank). Complete overhaul - oil, filter, timing, tappets,
camchain set, carbs balanced. Taper roller head race bearings fitted.
Front brake caliper unseized. Stainless steel brake hose fitted. New
throttle and clutch cables fitted. New rear shocks (Hagons).
Cosmetic work done:
New tank, seat, forks, front and rear guards, OE Honda exhaust system,
wheel rims and spokes, filler cap.
Doubt if many can get within Ł500 of what the whole thing has cost me to
date, including the purchase price of the bike. Some people know me and
might have a clue. ChrisKen won't.
--
BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 Z650
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
Steve Parry
That's not an RD, it's a YDS7
The Older Gentleman
Spete
Shhhhhhh
:-)
--
Spete
Spete
Ah, I see, anything to come over to Holland eh? Besides, there can only be
one cunt in my part of the country and that position has already been
taken...
--
Spete
TMack
Classic Ken. Complete about-turn but no acknowledgement that he was wrong
in the first place. If we keep it up we'll have him down to £500 or so
before long
--
Tony
'04 XL883C, '95 LS650
OMF#24
Spete
"catman" <cat...@cuorerust-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Kenny wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> If you can post some pics of the bike you want to restore, and an idea of
>> what final standard you are looking for, then I will be able to give you
>> a pretty good idea of cost.
>>
>> k
> That's really good. Now do Michael Jackson
Isn't that role reserved for SirTony?
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Beav
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:55:40 GMT, "Beav"
> <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Kenny" <bubb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> snip>
>>>
>>> I suppose then he is able to rebuild the crank (and that doesnt only
>>> mean
>>> changing outer bearings and seals), carry out rebores, and rechrome fork
>>> legs, and get hold of all the parts needed for next to nothing?
>>
>>Total for that lot wouldn't even come close to 500 quid, you plumb.
>>
> It'd be even less if need be because even though I changed job earlier
> this year I can still get rebores and chroming done FOC. I'd only do
> it to show up a cunt like Kenny but that's not the point.
Twin pot rebore costs about 80 quid "oop 'ere in t' frozen north" New
pistons and rings around 200 quid if you can't find after market parts. A
set of bearings and a crank regrind, about another 100, plus a gasket and
seal set. Piss easy to come in under 500 quid, even at retail prices. I bet
I could even get a man in to do the work for another couple of hundred too,
so I'be have plenty of change out of a grand for an RD motor rebuild. Ken
the stump may be the world's finest mechanic, but he IS a fucking stump when
it comes to getting things at a reasonable cost.
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OMF# 19
catman
> In article <9ZL0h.295471$5O2....@fe09.news.easynews.com>,
> catman <cat...@cuorerust-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Kenny wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>> If you can post some pics of the bike you want to restore, and an idea of
>>> what final standard you are looking for, then I will be able to give you a
>>> pretty good idea of cost.
>>>
>>> k
>>>
>>>
>> That's really good. Now do Michael Jackson
>
>
True, true. Maybe he *is* Sir.Tony
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<nos...@bonwick.me.uk> typed
>
>(1) This week I found out that if you crack a pipe flange on a line
>that's supposed to have been purged then you end up burping toxic
>gasses all evening.
And in what way does this differ from your normal night down the pub?
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Hog
> Give us a list of costs for re-build-ing an RD motor, that would cost
> over a grand.
I have, I could, fuck off and find out for yourself!
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'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
Andy Bonwick
wrote:
>Andy Bonwick wrote:
>
>>
>> (1) This week I found out that if you crack a pipe flange on a line
>> that's supposed to have been purged then you end up burping toxic
>> gasses all evening. I enjoyed my lesson so much that I did it a second
>> time and still didn't bitch to the cunts that had assured me the
>> system was clear.
>
>
>Hmm, I've a feeling you should report that as a near miss. Something
>clearly wrong there.
Yeah, lack of time. The trouble is that you can steam a line through
for hours and still have residuals in it.
Scraggy
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 22:40:06 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Andy Bonwick
>> <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> typed
>>>
>>> (1) This week I found out that if you crack a pipe flange on a line
>>> that's supposed to have been purged then you end up burping toxic
>>> gasses all evening.
>>
>> And in what way does this differ from your normal night down the pub?
>
Heh. Good man! Keep it in the family!
--
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members. Groucho Marx
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<sp...@bonwick.me.uk> typed
>><nos...@bonwick.me.uk> typed
>>>
>>>(1) This week I found out that if you crack a pipe flange on a line
>>>that's supposed to have been purged then you end up burping toxic
>>>gasses all evening.
>>
>>And in what way does this differ from your normal night down the pub?
>
Umm...
speed...@googlemail.com
Spete wrote:
> Here's a pic to get you on your way:
>
> http://www.kev.mercury-moon.co.uk/bikes/yamaha-rd250/t-Mvc-016f.jpg
Umm, Spete, that's not an RD250, that's a YDS7. The YDS7 was the
piston-ported forerunner to the reed-valve equipped RD series, but it's
not an RD.
--
Lozzo
speed...@googlemail.com
Kenny wrote:
> I suppose then he is able to rebuild the crank (and that doesnt only mean
> changing outer bearings and seals), carry out rebores, and rechrome fork
> legs, and get hold of all the parts needed for next to nothing?
>
> This guy is talking out of his arse, and knows next to nothing about
> rebuilding a bike.
As I'd be the one rebuilding the crank myself with a new rod kit and
bearings/seals, and then operating the boring bar myself when doing the
rebore, I suppose that side of it would cost me minimal money as I'd
save the labour charges involved. I can also operate the grinder and
polisher at the platers, saving more labour money on the fork
rechroming. Having a crank rebuilder and a chromers who owe me big
favours that I can pull in helps. I enjoy rebuilding my own engine
components and I know I've done them properly when done.
The rest of the bike was basic strip, clean, repaint, rebuild work,
with a few hundred quid needed on new parts like a front mudguard etc.
My estimate of a grand was for me to do the labour involved in the
crank/rebore/chroming work, which is why I said the bike wasn't worth
the asking price by a long chalk when it'll only be worth a max of 1800
quid when finished. I could have it looking good and running reliably
for a grand easily.
Kenny-boi, you're the one who knows fuck all, as many have proved?
--
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speed...@googlemail.com
Bear wrote:
> Is that *him*him, or the CompanyHim?
>
> The latter couldn't complete a 4 piece jigsaw without fucking it up, as
> in I've known several many people who've been seriously ripped off with
> shoddy work by them. "Best" was a megabucks 350LC rebuild & road tune
> that lasted precisely 15 minutes, and that's 15 mins of running-in revs,
> not 15 mins of thrashing. *3* further attempts at the same job just
> ended up completely wrecking the engine, at considerable cost to the
> owner. The attitude from them throughout was "tough shit". Utter, utter
> wankers.
Stan was running a 350YPVS in the Open 1300 class at Lydden Hill last
weekend, it was mid pack all day, beating Gixxer thous, R1s etc to the
line. It went bloody well and was dead reliable all weekend. When I
watched it going down the straight into the left hander at the bottom
of the hill it was only the exhaust note that gave it away, it was
going that well.
Stan does all the work himself nowadays, and he's stacked out with jobs
by the sounds of it.
DoetNietComputeren
> Hmm, I've a feeling you should report that as a near miss. Something
> clearly wrong there.
Near miss = hit, right?
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DoetNietComputeren
> i was woken by andy going to the loo
>
> i was woken by my mum getting into my bed who had woken up realising
> someone was in bed with her.
>
> i was woken by andy who had realised that he was in the wrong bed.
>
> luckily neither of them remember how it happened.
>
> good job considering andy was completely naked.
Ewwww.
Spete
<speed...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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As I've proved many times, I know fuckall about bikes and am ready and
willing to prove just that.
Kunty-Boi wanted a picture, so I provided one. Looked as close to an RD as I
remember, but with all the drugs and booze I may have been out a bit. Bit
odd that Kunty-Boi didn't correct me on that one as he *is* the professor of
RD's as we all know.
:-)
--
Spete
Andy Bonwick
<doesnotcompu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>mb wrote:
>
>> Hmm, I've a feeling you should report that as a near miss. Something
>> clearly wrong there.
>
>Near miss = hit, right?
Near miss = could cause problems if repeated.
DoetNietComputeren
>>> Hmm, I've a feeling you should report that as a near miss. Something
>>> clearly wrong there.
>> Near miss = hit, right?
>
> Near miss = could cause problems if repeated.
I know that. I just find the term incredibly annoying. If you nearly
missed, you must have hit. so to speak.
Andy Bonwick
<doesnotcompu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Andy Bonwick wrote:
>
>>>> Hmm, I've a feeling you should report that as a near miss. Something
>>>> clearly wrong there.
>
>>> Near miss = hit, right?
>>
>> Near miss = could cause problems if repeated.
>
>I know that. I just find the term incredibly annoying. If you nearly
>missed, you must have hit. so to speak.
Not exactly. A near miss (in general terms) means nobody was hurt. If
someone is hurt then it's an incident and if it's a serious one it's a
lost time incident or fatality.
I usually prefer to go and discuss problems rather than shove a near
miss report in because the problem still gets investigated but it gets
done straight away by engineers rather than being stared at by muppets
from Health and Safety.
Ken
"Beav" <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote in message
news:H7P0h.40329$Or2....@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
Be interested to hear where you go to get RD250 cranks
"reground"?.....................Another fuckwit from the TOG mechanics
school methinks!
k
Ken
"Spete" <ne...@spete.net> wrote in message
news:45438ae8$0$2014$9a62...@news.kpnplanet.nl...> news:4543...@212.67.96.135...
>
> <snip>
>
>> If you can post some pics of the bike you want to restore, and an idea of
>> what final standard you are looking for, then I will be able to give you
>> a pretty good idea of cost.
>
> ball-park figure.
>
> Go on, oh Clever One, share your knowledge instead of hiding behind
> excuses. You've been given ample opportunities to do so.
>
> Spete
If you dont have the bike then you have saved yourself a good deal of aggro,
as well as saving a lot of cash!
At a jumble a couple of weeks ago I spotted a very original looking late
RD250, which is you are looking for that sort of thing seemed very
reasonable at £875.
Finally its totally impossible to come up with figures as to costs of
rebuilding a bike, but unless its in pretty good order to start with, anyone
who suggests they can do the whole job for £1k is talking out of their arse!
k
Ken
<speed...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1162122939.7...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Simple questions for you:
1) How do you go about rebuilding a twin cylinder crank?
2) Describe the most important things when doing a rebore?
3) In regard to chroming forks, would the type of chrome used be the same as
that used for replating a mudguard say?
k
Ken
>
> "Steve Parry" <k100rs_199...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4qhhdnF...@individual.net...
>> Spete wrote:
>>> "Spete" <ne...@spete.net> wrote in message
>>> news:45438ae8$0$2014$9a62...@news.kpnplanet.nl...
>>>>
>>>> "Kenny" <bubb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4543...@212.67.96.135...
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> If you can post some pics of the bike you want to restore, and an idea
>>>>> of what final standard you are looking for, then I will be able to
>>>>> give
>>>>> you a pretty good idea of cost.
>>>>
>>>> Can't do. Firstly, as posting pictures on UKRM is frowned upon,
>>>> secondly,
>>>> I don't have the bike. I want to make sure I will be able to afford it.
>>>> If you need an exanple, go by the story Lozzo told. This should give me
>>>> a
>>>> ball-park figure.
>>>>
>>>> Go on, oh Clever One, share your knowledge instead of hiding behind
>>>> excuses. You've been given ample opportunities to do so.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.kev.mercury-moon.co.uk/bikes/yamaha-rd250/t-Mvc-016f.jpg
>>>
>>
>
> Shhhhhhh
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Spete
Might be a good idea to read up on the old Yams if you dont even know the
difference between a DS7 and an RD?
k
Ken
If you are as good at rebuilding bikes as you are at trolling, then I dont
think you are ever going to get your RD finished.
k
Ken
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:53:06 +0200, "Spete" <ne...@spete.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Kenny" <bubb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:4543...@212.67.96.135...
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>> If you can post some pics of the bike you want to restore, and an idea
>>> of
>>> what final standard you are looking for, then I will be able to give you
>>> a
>>> pretty good idea of cost.
>>
>>Can't do. Firstly, as posting pictures on UKRM is frowned upon, secondly,
>>I
>>don't have the bike. I want to make sure I will be able to afford it. If
>>you
>>need an exanple, go by the story Lozzo told. This should give me a
>>ball-park
>>figure.
>>
>>Go on, oh Clever One, share your knowledge instead of hiding behind
>>excuses.
>>You've been given ample opportunities to do so.
>
> can all meet up and ask him questions.
Maybe I can tell you the correct way to replace gear-box
bearings?...................Might save your life one day, avoiding the type
of bodges you seem comfortable with!
k
DoetNietComputeren
> Simple questions for you:
>
> 1) How do you go about rebuilding a twin cylinder crank?
> 2) Describe the most important things when doing a rebore?
> 3) In regard to chroming forks, would the type of chrome used be the same as
> that used for replating a mudguard say?
You still haven't listed how a motor rebuild will cost a grand. Or
commented on why your grand has devalued to just 800.
Spete
Spete
"Ken" <bubb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4544...@212.67.96.135...
Ok, so you're still dodging the question you've been asked quite a few times
with some bullshit. And you calling me a troll is a bit rich, innit.
--
Spete
Ken
You are asking questions about a bike you dont even have, and so are unable
to post pics of it............seems like a fair attempt at trolling to me!
k
Spete
Wicked Uncle Nigel
><w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Adie
>><sp...@bonwick.me.uk> typed
>>>On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 22:40:06 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>>><w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Andy Bonwick
>>>><nos...@bonwick.me.uk> typed
>>>>>
>>>>>(1) This week I found out that if you crack a pipe flange on a line
>>>>>that's supposed to have been purged then you end up burping toxic
>>>>>gasses all evening.
>>>>
>>>>And in what way does this differ from your normal night down the pub?
>>>
>>>he doesn't end up in bed with his mother in law.
>>
>>Umm...
>
>
>i was woken by my mum getting into my bed who had woken up realising
>someone was in bed with her.
>
>i was woken by andy who had realised that he was in the wrong bed.
>
>luckily neither of them remember how it happened.
ROTFLMAO. Bless 'im.
>good job considering andy was completely naked.
Oh thanks. <pushes plate away>
Spete
"Ken" <bubb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4544...@212.67.96.135...
<snip>
> You are asking questions about a bike you dont even have, and so are
> unable to post pics of it............seems like a fair attempt at trolling
> to me!
Well, let me just quote myself:
>>> Can't do. Firstly, as posting pictures on UKRM is frowned upon,
>>> secondly, I don't have the bike. I want to make sure I will be able to
>>> afford it. If you need an exanple, go by the story Lozzo told. This
>>> should give me a ball-park figure
So, go on, prove yourself, either as an expert, or the titty-sucker you
appear to be.
Here's something to read in the meantime as along with having not the
faintest idea what a motorbike is,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorbike
you seem to have little grasp on usenet terms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
--
Spete
Cab
> i was woken by andy going to the loo
>
> i was woken by my mum getting into my bed who had woken up realising
> someone was in bed with her.
>
> i was woken by andy who had realised that he was in the wrong bed.
>
> luckily neither of them remember how it happened.
>
> good job considering andy was completely naked.
Bwahahaha. Nice.
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The Older Gentleman
> Ok, so you're still dodging the question you've been asked quite a few times
> with some bullshit. And you calling me a troll is a bit rich, innit.
Interesting to see that nobody's had a pitch at guessing what my 400
Four cost me to sort out....
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The Older Gentleman
> i was woken by andy going to the loo
>
> i was woken by my mum getting into my bed who had woken up realising
> someone was in bed with her.
>
> i was woken by andy who had realised that he was in the wrong bed.
>
> luckily neither of them remember how it happened.
>
> good job considering andy was completely naked.
LOL
I don't know who to feel sorriest for.
Ace
chateau.mur...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>Adie <sp...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> i was woken by andy going to the loo
>>
>> i was woken by my mum getting into my bed who had woken up realising
>> someone was in bed with her.
>>
>> i was woken by andy who had realised that he was in the wrong bed.
>>
>> luckily neither of them remember how it happened.
>>
>> good job considering andy was completely naked.
>
>
>LOL
>
>I don't know who to feel sorriest for.
Oh Adie, definitely. She married him, remember.
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Spete
"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.mur...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
message news:1hnz54n.kbbh8xfupetcN%chateau.mur...@dsl.pipex.com...
> Spete <ne...@spete.net> wrote:
>
>> Ok, so you're still dodging the question you've been asked quite a few
>> times
>> with some bullshit. And you calling me a troll is a bit rich, innit.
>
>
> Interesting to see that nobody's had a pitch at guessing what my 400
> Four cost me to sort out....
Well, duh, according to Kunty-boi, you are a know-nothing asshole.
:-)
--
Spete
Ace
chateau.mur...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>Spete <ne...@spete.net> wrote:
>
>> Ok, so you're still dodging the question you've been asked quite a few times
>> with some bullshit. And you calling me a troll is a bit rich, innit.
>
>
>Interesting to see that nobody's had a pitch at guessing what my 400
>Four cost me to sort out....
Interesting that kennyboi's morphed yet again - he must be going
through ISPs like they're out of fashion. Still, only takes ten
seconds to fix.
Champ
>>>>And in what way does this differ from your normal night down the pub?
>>>
>>>he doesn't end up in bed with his mother in law.
>>
>>Umm...
>
>i was woken by andy going to the loo
>
>i was woken by my mum getting into my bed who had woken up realising
>someone was in bed with her.
>
>i was woken by andy who had realised that he was in the wrong bed.
>
>luckily neither of them remember how it happened.
>
>good job considering andy was completely naked.
Lordy lordy.
I am going to make it my personal mission to ensure that he's never
allowed to forget that.
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to email me, neal at my domain should work.
The Older Gentleman
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:34:24 +0000, Adie <sp...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>>And in what way does this differ from your normal night down the pub?
> >>>
> >>>he doesn't end up in bed with his mother in law.
> >>
> >>Umm...
> >
> >i was woken by andy going to the loo
> >
> >i was woken by my mum getting into my bed who had woken up realising
> >someone was in bed with her.
> >
> >i was woken by andy who had realised that he was in the wrong bed.
> >
> >luckily neither of them remember how it happened.
> >
> >good job considering andy was completely naked.
>
> Lordy lordy.
>
> I am going to make it my personal mission to ensure that he's never
> allowed to forget that.
It would have been even funnier if he'd tried to shag her.
Ace
chateau.mur...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:34:24 +0000, Adie <sp...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
>> >>>he doesn't end up in bed with his mother in law.
>> I am going to make it my personal mission to ensure that he's never
>> allowed to forget that.
>
>It would have been even funnier if he'd tried to shag her.
You think the MiL would admit it if he had?