Re: Pan European; short notes
steve auvache
dead...@burnt.org.uk writes
>Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>
>It's also got a lovely engine.
>
>However it's taste for fuel is a little excessive... I've got the fucker
>down to 32mpg when commuting. If I could get the fuel consumption back
>to the 35-40 range I think I'd be happy.
Unlikely before next spring.
When I was doing a significant commute consumption varied about 25% over
the seasons. How much of this was due to utter determination to get
home as quick as possible in the depths of winter and a tendency to just
chug along when the sun was shining I may never know but it wouldn't
surprise me if it didn't also have an effect.
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platypus
> Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>
> It's also got a lovely engine.
>
> However it's taste for fuel is a little excessive... I've got the
> fucker down to 32mpg when commuting. If I could get the fuel
> consumption back to the 35-40 range I think I'd be happy.
Luxury. The Trophy averaged 32mpg on a run.
Greybeard
"platypus" <mono...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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My Trophy does nigh 40 if taken steady. Normal (spirited) riding gets it
down a bit, sometimes to the low 30's.
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Hog
> Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
Your K obviously needs some sorting then!
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Cane
> Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>
> It's also got a lovely engine.
I've really enjoyed riding my Dad's ST1300. Unsure about the MPG, I'll
ask him.
M J Carley
>Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>
>It's also got a lovely engine.
>
>down to 32mpg when commuting. If I could get the fuel consumption back
>to the 35-40 range I think I'd be happy.
I usually get about 40mpg (actually 9 miles/litre), but I managed to
get it down to a dry tank in 150 miles after a day in the hills in
Italy.
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Hog
> In the referenced article, dead...@burnt.org.uk writes:
>> Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>>
>> It's also got a lovely engine.
>>
>> However it's taste for fuel is a little excessive... I've got the
>> fucker down to 32mpg when commuting. If I could get the fuel
>> consumption back to the 35-40 range I think I'd be happy.
>
> I usually get about 40mpg (actually 9 miles/litre), but I managed to
> get it down to a dry tank in 150 miles after a day in the hills in
> Italy.
I considered myself very fortunate if I got 40mpg out of a K, 100 or 1100.
They dip below 30 if you push them.
The 4S averages 45 at considerably higher speed.
Howard
A near neighbour of mine had a pan as his work vehicle and
is getting rid because of the high speed 'weave'.
The police have also come to this decision.
He's buying a new K1200? Well reviewed last week somewhere
and returning an MPG of around 50.
How the hell do they manage that?
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wessie
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> dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>> Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>>
>
> A near neighbour of mine had a pan as his work vehicle and
> is getting rid because of the high speed 'weave'.
> The police have also come to this decision.
> He's buying a new K1200? Well reviewed last week somewhere
> and returning an MPG of around 50.
> How the hell do they manage that?
>
>
They falsify the data by including the miles covered on the back of a
breakdown truck.
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platypus
> why the Pan couldn't.
There were other problems with the Trophy as a tourer. The VFR is streets
ahead in every way I can think of apart from styling.
Champ
>I have... er... about 10 years of fuel
>consumption data covering virtually every mile I've done in 21 different
>vehicles. (about 120k on bikes and 200k in cars)
Words fail me.
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darsy
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:24:59 +0000, deadm...@burnt.org.uk wrote:
> >I have... er... about 10 years of fuel
> >consumption data covering virtually every mile I've done in 21 different
> >vehicles. (about 120k on bikes and 200k in cars)
>
> Words fail me.
here, have some of mine:
"Packer, you sad cunt".
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platypus
He's like a pocket Salad Dodger.
Timo Geusch
Ouch.
<small voice>
I'm getting around 45-50mpg from Ks
</sv>
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Derek Turner
> Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>
> It's also got a lovely engine.
>
> However it's taste for fuel is a little excessive... I've got the fucker
> down to 32mpg when commuting. If I could get the fuel consumption back
> to the 35-40 range I think I'd be happy.
Mine was supposed to have had a 'full service' before I bought it.
Recently (see up there ^ somewhere) I had need to remove the air-filter.
It looked as if it was the factory-fitted original - not surprising as
it's a cunt to get at. I haven't done enough miles since to see if fuel
consumption is improved but it does need a lot more choke. Worth a look?
Champ
<vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:33:35 GMT platypus wrote:
>
>>He's like a pocket Salad Dodger.
>
>Where the fuck is that fucker recently?
<telephony>
He's alive, but bored with ukrm.
CT
[of Salad Dodger]
> He's alive, but bored with ukrm.
When you're bored with ukrm...
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Hog
> Hog wrote:
>
>> M J Carley wrote:
>>> In the referenced article, dead...@burnt.org.uk writes:
>>>> Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>>>>
>>>> It's also got a lovely engine.
>>>>
>>>> However it's taste for fuel is a little excessive... I've got the
>>>> fucker down to 32mpg when commuting. If I could get the fuel
>>>> consumption back to the 35-40 range I think I'd be happy.
>>>
>>> I usually get about 40mpg (actually 9 miles/litre), but I managed to
>>> get it down to a dry tank in 150 miles after a day in the hills in
>>> Italy.
>>
>> I considered myself very fortunate if I got 40mpg out of a K, 100 or
>> 1100. They dip below 30 if you push them. The 4S averages 45 at
>> considerably higher speed.
>
> Ouch.
>
> <small voice>
>
> I'm getting around 45-50mpg from Ks
>
> </sv>
Yes but you push it the extra 5-10 miles
Greybeard
Nah,
My mate can't touch me on the Trophy when I'm fully loaded and 2-up. His VFR
wallows all over the shop, and he can't carry _anywhere near_ the luggage I
can on the Trumpet.
He also suffers with more frequent fuel stops! but that could be a tank
size issue? I don't know how much or what mpg he gets, but he doesn't like
to pass a fuel stop up ;o)
wessie
news:fha6do$tvo$1...@registered.motzarella.org:
> I don't know how much or what mpg he gets, but he
> doesn't like to pass a fuel stop up ;o)
>
He's a smoker, isn't he?
Greybeard
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> "Greybeard" <d...@invalid.com> wrote in
> news:fha6do$tvo$1...@registered.motzarella.org:
>
>> I don't know how much or what mpg he gets, but he
>> doesn't like to pass a fuel stop up ;o)
>>
>
> He's a smoker, isn't he?
Nope, sorry.
The VFR _seems_ to like a drink when fully laden. When solo, he nips along
very nicely, the bike seems to struggle when heavily laden and 2-up.
Still, I guess it is only a 750 tho'!
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platypus
> "platypus" <mono...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>>> "platypus" <mono...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> <B8OZi.46075$c_1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>:
>>>
>>>> dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>>>>> Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's also got a lovely engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> However it's taste for fuel is a little excessive... I've got the
>>>>> fucker down to 32mpg when commuting. If I could get the fuel
>>>>> consumption back to the 35-40 range I think I'd be happy.
>>>>
>>>> Luxury. The Trophy averaged 32mpg on a run.
>>>
>>> This is wrong for a tourer. The K1100 can manage 35-40, I don't see
>>> why the Pan couldn't.
>>
>> There were other problems with the Trophy as a tourer. The VFR is
>> streets ahead in every way I can think of apart from styling.
>>
>
> Nah,
> My mate can't touch me on the Trophy when I'm fully loaded and 2-up.
> His VFR wallows all over the shop, and he can't carry _anywhere near_
> the luggage I can on the Trumpet.
> He also suffers with more frequent fuel stops! but that could be a
> tank size issue? I don't know how much or what mpg he gets, but he
> doesn't like to pass a fuel stop up ;o)
Okay. I had an R-reg 1200 Trophy with factory panniers and topbox. It
could get up to about 130mph, and averaged low 30s mpg. It was reasonably
comfortable for the rider so long as I kept my head out of the turbulence.
Not so for the pillion: the airflow would snap her neck round to the
lock-stops if she got it out of the dead-ahead position. Also, the thing
was a fucking behemoth, with much weight carried high up. Getting it onto
the main stand was a test of nerve and sinew; getting it off again,
sometimes doubly so. Going onto reserve was a full West End production:
fucking ludicrous.
The VFR is a J-reg 750 with Gvi-identical panniers and topbox. Capacity is
probably slightly better than the Trofe. Also, they don't seem to let the
rain in, something the Trofe did for a hobby. It gets to 130 easily enough,
and averages low-to-mid 40s mpg. It's comfortable for both rider and
pillion - daughter prefers it to the Wing and reports "absolutely no
turbulence." It's light and hand and easy to get on and off the stand and
wheel around. It's also got about a third of the money tied up in it that I
had with the Trophy.
Your mate's VFR sounds a bit fucked. Mine is a model of clarity and
precision, even two up. Range-wise, I'd expect to manage 120-130 miles
before reserve in most circumstances. I'd be looking for fuel on the Trophy
after 100 miles or so, due to the reserve shenanigans. The pillion couldn't
tolerate a steady speed over 80 for any significant distance anyway.
Hog
> "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
> <fh947p$jp9$1...@registered.motzarella.org>:
>
>> dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>>> Well, it certainly handles better than the BMW K series.
>>
>> Your K obviously needs some sorting then!
>
> models.)
>
> The old, non paralever ones are a lot cruder in terms of the steering
> and suspension. Plus the choice of rubber is limiting. The K1100's a
> lot better but has that stupid rubber mounting on the handlebars which
> insulates one from the road somewhat.
Yeah but you know what I did to my 1100 and it was *miles* better
afterwards. That's all I meant.
Wicked Uncle Nigel
dead...@burnt.org.uk typed
> Derek Turner <frd...@cesmail.net> wrote in message
><5pquv3F...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>A full service is on the cards... but I've got the K1100 service to
>finish, the K75 full service to do, the sidecar alignment and valves to
>do, the triumph clutch to sort and.... well you get the picture.
Umm...
<stares at feet, shuffles>
I had it for about 7,000 miles and I never looked at the air filter.
That might be a good place to start.
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The Older Gentleman
> The old, non paralever ones are a lot cruder in terms of the steering
> and suspension. Plus the choice of rubber is limiting. The K1100's a
> lot better but has that stupid rubber mounting on the handlebars which
> insulates one from the road somewhat.
I must say I hated the rubber mounted bars at first, but I've got used
to them, once you realise that it will, in fact, get round the corner
that you can't feel.
I have to say the odd wheel sizes limit the 1100's tyre choice as well.
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> the cooker or whatever it was.
hey, at least mine was a proper mental illness - you're just a twat.
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Hog
> chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote
> in message
> <1i7i9lq.1747a04194di3gN%chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com>:
>
>> <dead...@burnt.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> The old, non paralever ones are a lot cruder in terms of the
>>> steering and suspension. Plus the choice of rubber is limiting.
>>> The K1100's a lot better but has that stupid rubber mounting on the
>>> handlebars which insulates one from the road somewhat.
>>
>> I must say I hated the rubber mounted bars at first, but I've got
>> used to them, once you realise that it will, in fact, get round the
>> corner that you can't feel.
>
> think I'd replace them with metal bushes.
>
> Could also take a leaf out of the H1 cookbook and fill the handlebars
> with lead to damp the vibration...[1]
>
>> I have to say the odd wheel sizes limit the 1100's tyre choice as
>> well.
>
>
>
> [1] Clearly a joke since the K runs the heated grip wires there.
As I have said before taking the slop out of the bars makes a huge
difference, in fact that mild weave in corners is mostly caused by your
negative feedback through the bars. Add some steering damper, perfect head
races, a proper upgrade to the fork internals and a high quality shock with
the right tyres.... you have as good a handling big tourer as can be had.
The 1100RS wheels allow more tyre options, hence I also said that an RS with
an RT fairing would be the best start.
Of course an RS with a Boxer RS fairing is even better possibly.
Greybeard
Standard screen and that's absoluelty correct. I've cahnged all my Trphies
to the Flic-up screen. Seems to _almost_ solve the problem of turbulance.
Pillion is certainly much better off, and in the main, unless I sit bolt
upright, like when stretching my back then I rarely have a problem (I'm a
bit of a shortarse though;o) )
It certainly carries weight high, I even have a rack on the lid of the top
box!
Can't argue about the centre stand fiasco. It can be a right scarey few
minutes of wrestling.
Don't have a problem with reserve, rarely need it, 'specially not if
travelling with my mate on his VFR. (Which in all fairness has only ever
been once and probably will stay that way!)
130 is about the top for the Trumpet, but Christ, who and where would
anybody want to ride at that speed for any length of time?
> The VFR is a J-reg 750 with Gvi-identical panniers and topbox. Capacity
> is probably slightly better than the Trofe. Also, they don't seem to let
> the rain in, something the Trofe did for a hobby. It gets to 130 easily
> enough, and averages low-to-mid 40s mpg. It's comfortable for both rider
> and pillion - daughter prefers it to the Wing and reports "absolutely no
> turbulence." It's light and hand and easy to get on and off the stand and
> wheel around. It's also got about a third of the money tied up in it that
> I had with the Trophy.
Can't argue about any of that, I'v never even been on a VFR, it's a Honda
after all, and I don't touch them!
Can't keep up with a Trophy when loaded though.
> Your mate's VFR sounds a bit fucked. Mine is a model of clarity and
> precision, even two up. Range-wise, I'd expect to manage 120-130 miles
> before reserve in most circumstances. I'd be looking for fuel on the
> Trophy after 100 miles or so, due to the reserve shenanigans. The pillion
> couldn't tolerate a steady speed over 80 for any significant distance
> anyway.
>
Well, I have to say, it seems in excellent order, and is pretty damned quick
when solo. Not too much of a slouch when 2-up, but seems not to like being
loaded to the gills.
I reckon you must have had something seriously wrong by not getting 130+ out
of a tank before thinking of reserve, unless of course you are flat out all
the way, then I would think that pretty bloody good! :o) I think a VFR at
full chat would be bloody thirsty as well.
Keeping a steady eighty or so on my Trumpet I would expect to get over 140
miles before reserve. I have had nearly 200 to the tank taking it really
steady!
On a similar note, my neighbour, who bought my 1991 Trophy off me a couple
of years back, and rides _very_ cautiously, is always over the 200/tankfull
before he fills up, and never hit reserve yet! ;o)
Horses for courses, but having never ridden a VFR I can't comment on the
bike itself, but the Trophy is a farking hard bike to beat as full-up fully
laden long distance tourer.
And a great bike to just around for fun as well ;o))
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Andy Bonwick
wrote:
snip>
>As I have said before taking the slop out of the bars makes a huge
>difference, in fact that mild weave in corners is mostly caused by your
>negative feedback through the bars. Add some steering damper, perfect head
>races, a proper upgrade to the fork internals and a high quality shock with
>the right tyres.... you have as good a handling big tourer as can be had.
>
I don't know if there's a major difference in the handling between the
K100 and the K1100 but as far as I can tell al, you need to do with
the older model is throw it at a corner as hard as you can, pucker up
and get on with it.
It's a big old unit but all bikes from that era handled like turds
and without riding it back to back with something like a GPZ1100 it
doesn't seem to be any worse than I remember bikes as being.
Mine scared the shit out of me at first but now I'm used to it I don't
worry about it. Decent tyres would be nice but when you consider that
Pirelli Phantoms were about as good as it got in 1983 you just have to
accept that it's old and ignore the problems. I'm positive that my
K100 handles better than the mid '70s boxer twins that I rode. At
least I can roll the gas off a bit mid corner without it standing up
and shaking as if it's got Parkinsons.
h...@freenet.co.uk
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:18:02 -0000, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
The RS doesn't have the rubber mounted tiller like bar problem so it
doesn't exhibit the same weave in long sweepers. As for the rest,
horses for.
The Older Gentleman
> I don't know if there's a major difference in the handling between the
> K100 and the K1100 but as far as I can tell al, you need to do with
> the older model is throw it at a corner as hard as you can, pucker up
> and get on with it.
I can do that on the Duke, but I'd prefer not to on the K.
The K, I set up for the bend nicely in advance, tip it in, and then keep
the power on all the way round. It seems to go quite nicely round bends
like that. In fact, I got my boot down yesterday.
Shutting off in mid-corner? Hm. Haven't tried that. Haven't tried
snorting prussic acid either.
The Ducati I like throwing at corners, because I'm certain that whatever
I do, it'll come out the other side. I like lobbing the K at corners
because it's a sort of interesting academic experiment.
It actually corners much better than it should do, given its size,
weight and soft suspension, but it doesn't handl;e anywhere near as well
as the Trophy 1200 that preceded it.
Andy Bonwick
wrote:
snip>
>Keeping a steady eighty or so on my Trumpet I would expect to get over 140
>miles before reserve.
My 1983 K100 does better than 140 miles to reserve belting up the
motorway at 110mph and I'm not overly impressed with that when I look
at it as a long distance touring bike.
Andy Bonwick
chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>Andy Bonwick <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> I don't know if there's a major difference in the handling between the
>> K100 and the K1100 but as far as I can tell al, you need to do with
>> the older model is throw it at a corner as hard as you can, pucker up
>> and get on with it.
>
>I can do that on the Duke, but I'd prefer not to on the K.
>
You should try it. I'll probably bring mine on a French trip so try it
on that, it won't matter if you wreck it because your life insurance
will replace it.
>The K, I set up for the bend nicely in advance, tip it in, and then keep
>the power on all the way round. It seems to go quite nicely round bends
>like that. In fact, I got my boot down yesterday.
>
It does repay you if you line it up well in advance of the corner but
changes of line can be accomplished if you're in the shit enough to
try it.
>Shutting off in mid-corner? Hm. Haven't tried that. Haven't tried
>snorting prussic acid either.
>
Prussic acid? Never tried it but I have snorted vodka and it burnt
like a bastard.
platypus
>>
>> Okay. I had an R-reg 1200 Trophy with factory panniers and topbox. It
>> could get up to about 130mph, and averaged low 30s mpg. It was
>> reasonably comfortable for the rider so long as I kept my head out
>> of the turbulence. Not so for the pillion: the airflow would snap
>> her neck round to the lock-stops if she got it out of the dead-ahead
>> position. Also, the thing was a fucking behemoth, with much weight
>> carried high up. Getting it onto the main stand was a test of nerve
>> and sinew; getting it off again, sometimes doubly so. Going onto
>> reserve was a full West End production: fucking ludicrous.
>
> Standard screen and that's absoluelty correct. I've cahnged all my
> Trphies to the Flic-up screen. Seems to _almost_ solve the problem of
> turbulance. Pillion is certainly much better off, and in the main,
> unless I sit bolt upright, like when stretching my back then I rarely
> have a problem (I'm a bit of a shortarse though;o) )
I had a non-standard screen. It was okay for me, but still problematic for
the pillion.
> 130 is about the top for the Trumpet, but Christ, who and where would
> anybody want to ride at that speed for any length of time?
NAHAY?
>> The VFR is a J-reg 750 with Gvi-identical panniers and topbox. Capacity
>> is probably slightly better than the Trofe. Also, they
>> don't seem to let the rain in, something the Trofe did for a hobby. It
>> gets to 130 easily enough, and averages low-to-mid 40s mpg. It's
>> comfortable for both rider and pillion - daughter prefers it to the
>> Wing and reports "absolutely no turbulence." It's light and hand
>> and easy to get on and off the stand and wheel around. It's also
>> got about a third of the money tied up in it that I had with the
>> Trophy.
>
> Can't argue about any of that, I'v never even been on a VFR, it's a
> Honda after all, and I don't touch them!
Why?
>> Your mate's VFR sounds a bit fucked. Mine is a model of clarity and
>> precision, even two up. Range-wise, I'd expect to manage 120-130
>> miles before reserve in most circumstances. I'd be looking for fuel
>> on the Trophy after 100 miles or so, due to the reserve shenanigans.
> I reckon you must have had something seriously wrong by not getting
> 130+ out of a tank before thinking of reserve, unless of course you
> are flat out all the way, then I would think that pretty bloody good!
> :o) I think a VFR at full chat would be bloody thirsty as well.
> Keeping a steady eighty or so on my Trumpet I would expect to get
> over 140 miles before reserve. I have had nearly 200 to the tank
> taking it really steady!
I once got 160 to reserve on my Trophy. However, when it did hit reserve,
it was chugga chugga choke fart hard shoulder fuel starvation. Which is why
I'd be getting edgy and looking around for filling stations after 100 miles.
> Horses for courses, but having never ridden a VFR I can't comment on
> the bike itself, but the Trophy is a farking hard bike to beat as
> full-up fully laden long distance tourer.
It was a good bike, but I just didn't get on with it.
Lozzo
> I once got 160 to reserve on my Trophy. However, when it did hit reserve,
> it was chugga chugga choke fart hard shoulder fuel starvation. Which is why
> I'd be getting edgy and looking around for filling stations after 100 miles.
How crap is that, and they call it a full-on tourer? Normal tank range
on my Daytona is about 155 to 160 miles, and on one occasion I managed
to drag it out to 225 miles by riding like DWB/Oldbloke/Wizard/Ginge in
his R6 days.
--
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Triumph Daytona 955i SE
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Yamaha SR250 SpazzTrakka
platypus
> platypus says...
>
>> I once got 160 to reserve on my Trophy. However, when it did hit
>> reserve, it was chugga chugga choke fart hard shoulder fuel
>> starvation. Which is why I'd be getting edgy and looking around for
>> filling stations after 100 miles.
>
> How crap is that, and they call it a full-on tourer? Normal tank range
> on my Daytona is about 155 to 160 miles, and on one occasion I managed
> to drag it out to 225 miles by riding like DWB/Oldbloke/Wizard/Ginge
> in his R6 days.
Used mildly, it was probably good for nearly 200 miles. IIRC I was getting
closer to 130-140 in normal use, but the reserve shenanigans were pretty
effective aversion therapy.
Lozzo
Treat the Daytona nicely and you'll get 50 miles after the light comes
on, there is no reserve.
platypus
> platypus says...
>> Lozzo wrote:
>>> platypus says...
>>>
>>>> I once got 160 to reserve on my Trophy. However, when it did hit
>>>> reserve, it was chugga chugga choke fart hard shoulder fuel
>>>> starvation. Which is why I'd be getting edgy and looking around
>>>> for filling stations after 100 miles.
>>>
>>> How crap is that, and they call it a full-on tourer? Normal tank
>>> range on my Daytona is about 155 to 160 miles, and on one occasion
>>> I managed to drag it out to 225 miles by riding like
>>> DWB/Oldbloke/Wizard/Ginge in his R6 days.
>>
>> Used mildly, it was probably good for nearly 200 miles. IIRC I was
>> getting closer to 130-140 in normal use, but the reserve shenanigans
>> were pretty effective aversion therapy.
>
> Treat the Daytona nicely and you'll get 50 miles after the light comes
> on, there is no reserve.
What is this light you speak of? Chug city, and grope for the tap.
Hog
> Oh K100s handle well enough; ask Champ he's seen me throw an old RT
> around rather enthusiastically. The 1100 handles more 'comfortably'
> but has a lot more slop in the steering (even with new headraces).
> Personally I'd rather ride the 1100 but if I was trying to go 'fast'
> through corners I'd prefer a 100. Mind you, I don't know if there's
> any significant difference between the RS and RT.
It really is a trivial matter to take the rubber out of the bar mounts. A
steering damper is an akward proposition but a K75S "Fluid Block" damper
which fits in the steering head make a big difference.
Greybeard
"Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Treat the Daytona nicely and you'll get 50 miles after the light comes
> on, there is no reserve.
I understand that Daytona (1200) cams go in a Trophy a treat and _really_ up
the power.
Brings them up to the full power models of the early ones, (91 > 95).
If anybody has a set, I might be interested in buying them ;o)
The Older Gentleman
> a K75S "Fluid Block" damper
> which fits in the steering head make a big difference.
That's worth knowing. Mine will need new head races in a year or so, and
I might ask Brian Giles to fit one of those, if it's as good as you say.
Hog
> Hog <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> a K75S "Fluid Block" damper
>> which fits in the steering head make a big difference.
>
> That's worth knowing. Mine will need new head races in a year or so,
> and I might ask Brian Giles to fit one of those, if it's as good as
> you say.
Well it is no replacement for a proper steering damper but it is an
improvement and piss easy to fit. Basically two plastic rings in an
interference fit with a fancy gell lube.
Get him to un-rubber the bar mounts at the same time!
platypus
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> Hog <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> a K75S "Fluid Block" damper
>>> which fits in the steering head make a big difference.
>>
>> That's worth knowing. Mine will need new head races in a year or so,
>> and I might ask Brian Giles to fit one of those, if it's as good as
>> you say.
>
> Well it is no replacement for a proper steering damper but it is an
> improvement and piss easy to fit. Basically two plastic rings in an
> interference fit with a fancy gell lube.
Homoerotic upgrade.
> Get him to un-rubber the bar mounts at the same time!
Barebacking, too.
Hog
You're a very sick man