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The Older Gentleman

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Jul 22, 2007, 1:57:55 PM7/22/07
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Hell is not a hot place. Hell is underwater. I know, because I've been
there, on Friday 20 July.

I have never, ever seen sustained rain like it. Five miles from the
Chateau the road was a lake, and a truck coming the other way ploughed
into it at full chat. This wall of water curved up, way over my head.
For a split second I knew how the beach dwellers in Sri Lanka felt when
they saw the tsunami approaching.

Oh.... faaarrkkk..SPLASH.

And the 400 Four ran onto three cylinders. Great only another 200+ miles
to go. Amazingly, it picked up again, and equally amazingly, continued
to run faultlessly on all four through the scene from Waterworld that
was the M25 and M20.

Those of us who hadn't WUN'd out assembled at Dover looking like we'd
been chucked in the harbour. But half-way across the Channel, the sun
came out, and stayed out for most of the weekend. I have a sunburned
hooter.

I rode from Calais to the hotel at Maubeuge in company with Ginge on his
ZRX. He was complaining of a funny smell from the bike, and was
wondering whether a mouse or similar had crawled into it and perished.

The 400 Four kept up a steady 80 on the autoroute, dropping to 75 on the
up inclines and increasing to 90+ on some of the downs. Ginge, dare I
say it, was rather impressed.

about 15 miles from the hotel we stopped for fuel, and as we rejoined
the autoroute, we saw, peeling on from a ramp up ahead, a Ducati ST4S
with two aboard. It had to be Hog and Diana. How do you catch an ST4S in
heavy motorway traffic, when you're on a Honda 400 Four? By riding like
a total twat. A few beeps of the horn, and we were a trio of bikes.

At the hotel Le Patron wanted to know how many people were actually
coming, and I had to say I hadn't a clue because some had WUN'd out, and
others I didn't know about were coming.

He was very phlegmatic about it all. "OK, let's see who arrives.... I
have fifteen people for dinner originally."

Blow me down, we were 15, thanks to the surprise last-minute appearance
of S Packer on his Beemer. The hotel was great: pokey little rooms that
hadn't been decorated in 20 years, but a good menu and a better wine
list. We went down the road for some pre-prandial beers, and had a damn
good dinner. Champ & Ginny arrived late, on the Turbo.

That made Ginge on the ZRX, me on the 400 Four, Champ and Ginny, Martin
Marmoy on his VFR, Platy & Laura on the outfit, Nina on her ZXR, Packer
on the Beemer, Champ and Diana on the Turbo, Niall and Liz on the
VStrom, Higgins on his... whatrever, Brownz in his Cooper S, and one or
two others. Bonwicks on their R1 and ZX10, Sweller on the Gzzi, Dodger
on the Wing, and one or two others joined us at the circuit.

To the circuit, 30 miles away, park up, tents up, and then the beer and
food runs. Panic. It was a Belgian bank holiday and the supermarkets
(and all shops) were closed, so people had to re-cross the French border
to find supplies.

The rest of Saturday was the usual - watch noisy ShiteOldRacers being
ridden *way* faster than you'd believe, drink lots of Chimay, and then
fire up the barbies.

Oh, and it was CIHAGM time with Platy's outfit. I loved it: Champ was
scared witless by it. So it goes.

Highlight of the evening was Andy Bonwick, off his face on Chimay beer,
throwing the keys of his ZX10 to a Frenchman who was as pissed as he
was, and telling him to go and have a play. As the weakling Frogs aren't
to be trusted with anything over about 100bhp by their government, he
was off.

We then watched and listened as he gavce it full beans up and down the
main straight, while Adie had a *major* sense of humour failure, and
Andy protested it was his bike and he could do what he wanted with it.
all to the sound of EEEEEEWWWAAAAAAWAAAIILLLLL! from the circuit behind
us.

Eventually even Andy got worried that this Frog had been out for a
while, and asked said Frog's mates to call him n: "Or I'll fucking torch
the cunt's Ducati...."

Frog came back, swayed off thebike, staggered over to Andy, nearly
weeping, flung his arms round him, gave him a kiss on both cheeks, and
went into a long stream of animated French to his mates about what 85bhp
more than anything he'd ever ridden felt like.

Adie went for a sulk in her tent. "She had a right face on her," said
Dodger, next morning. "I asked her if she was being the sensible one
this weekend, and she just looked at me, and I thought I'd get out of
her way..."

Packer decided we needed firewood, and grabbed the hatchet that Platy
just happened to have packed in the outfit's boot, strapped one of those
head lantern to his bonce, and disappeared into the copse behind us,
before emerging with half of it. He decided that wasn't enough, and
raided some Belgian's wood store while they just looked at this maniac
waving an axe, and wisely decided not to make an issue of it.

I had to leave about 11am Sunday, to get my pix downloaded and captions,
and Ginge came with me. Howling headind, the usual "Where the FUCK DO
YOU FIND PETROL ON SUNDAY IN THIS COUNTRY? silliness, one heavy shower,
and a decent ride to Calais, where, right by the passport booth, the ZRX
died. He had turned it off, and when he switched it on again, there was
no electricity anywhere.

We realised what the smell had been - a boiled dry battery. Oh dear.

I said that if it had been boiled dry, that probably meant the reg/rec
was fucked, and only then did Ginge own up to having left the bike
parked, unused, with the alarm on, for six months. "It took two days on
the Optimate before I got anything out of the batter...." Muppet.

So we (We? I!) pushed-started the thing. And it ran. And we got to the
queue for the boat, and phone Timo, to see if he could locate a battery
at short notice, and text is with a yea or a nay.

We were called to board the boat. And Ginge, the cunt, stalled it again,
on the apron.

"Ginge, FOR FUCK'S SAKE, turn the steering so it's pointing DOWNHILL
when I'm pushing instead of UP THE FUCKING LOADING RAMP!!!!"

I swear, I thought I was going to have a coronary.

OK, onto the boat, away, and Timo came thorugh with the news that he'd
located a brand new battery at Hein Gericke in Maidstone, and it would
be waiting at the Schloss. Top man.

Off at Dover, after another push-start on the boat, and Ginge stalled
the bloody thing *again* in the queue for Customs......

And then the 400 ran onto reserve just outside Dover, and 20 miles from
the Schloss, with no filling stations in sight. By slipstreaming a bus
for most of the way we made it, and the new battery was fitted, the
charging system checked and pronounced fighting fit, and Ginge was
berated (again) for being a Battery Muppet. Timo, you're a star.

Who needs the RAC when you have ukrm?

Next year - the racing will be on the old full circuit, six miles in
distance. I can't wait.

And the 400 Four? Everyone who chased it around the countryside was
surprised at just how well it goes, when wound up. I utterly adore it.
You get the feeling that when they built it, the engineers and
developers put just a bit extra into the project. They went the extra
mile, and built something exceptional. And with soul.

It's 30 years old, and it still copes happily with modern roads, modern
traffic, and can make bigger bikes work a little bit harder than they
thought they'd have to, to keep it in sight. It's truly one of Japan's
finest designs.


--
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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

Timo Geusch

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Jul 22, 2007, 2:13:42 PM7/22/07
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The Older Gentleman wrote:

> That made Ginge on the ZRX, me on the 400 Four, Champ and Ginny,

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


> Martin Marmoy on his VFR, Platy & Laura on the outfit, Nina on her
> ZXR, Packer on the Beemer, Champ and Diana on the Turbo,

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Does Hog know about this?

<snip>

> And then the 400 ran onto reserve just outside Dover, and 20 miles
> from the Schloss, with no filling stations in sight. By slipstreaming
> a bus for most of the way we made it, and the new battery was fitted,
> the charging system checked and pronounced fighting fit, and Ginge was
> berated (again) for being a Battery Muppet. Timo, you're a star.

np, happy to help.

> Who needs the RAC when you have ukrm?

Obviously, when you want to break down discreetly without everybody
taking the piss.

And I can help to notice that you fail to mention a certain brake
fettle that was going on simultaneously to Ginge & myself fiddling with
his bike...

> It's 30 years old, and it still copes happily with modern roads,
> modern traffic, and can make bigger bikes work a little bit harder
> than they thought they'd have to, to keep it in sight. It's truly one
> of Japan's finest designs.

Yep. And I happen to have one for sale, but the cunts ain't biting at
the moment.

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DeeHatchJay ........

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Jul 22, 2007, 2:16:26 PM7/22/07
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> finest designs.

That was almost as good as Harry Potter ......


Brownz (Mobile)

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Jul 22, 2007, 2:28:12 PM7/22/07
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Hell is not a hot place. Hell is underwater. I know, because I've been
> there, on Friday 20 July.
> Snipped lengthy review.

Top weekend, aggreeable cunts, nice beer, great food at L 'otel, superb
atmosphere, fun camping.

Glad to act as the support vehicle ;-)

Lets do it again next year (when I'll have special glasses for spotting the
ol gendarmerie sitting on bridges).

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Cheerz - Brownz
http://www.brownz.org/


steve auvache

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Jul 22, 2007, 2:19:15 PM7/22/07
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In article <1i1o0do.k1kvzq5a0h6wN%chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.c
om>, The Older Gentleman <chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com>
writes

>Hell is not a hot place. Hell is underwater. I know, because I've been
>there, on Friday 20 July.
>
>I have never, ever seen sustained rain like it.

What is all this crap about floods and raining and stuff? We had a
light shower on Friday morning but other than that it has been the usual
boring old blue skies and fluffy clouds.


--
steve auvache
A Bloo one with built in safety features

AW

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Jul 22, 2007, 3:01:00 PM7/22/07
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steve auvache wrote:

> What is all this crap about floods and raining and stuff? We had a
> light shower on Friday morning but other than that it has been the usual
> boring old blue skies and fluffy clouds.


It bloody rained in SE London - my garage got flooded. :-(

View of the road from a couple of houses down:

http://mfile.akamai.com/26673/wmv/anm1.download.akamai.com/18142/3rdparty/flood2.asx


Not exactly Noah levels of rain, I grant you.....

Ace

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Jul 22, 2007, 3:21:58 PM7/22/07
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

<Snip>

Great write-up, wish I was there. Mebbe next year.

>And the 400 Four? Everyone who chased it around the countryside was
>surprised at just how well it goes, when wound up. I utterly adore it.
>You get the feeling that when they built it, the engineers and
>developers put just a bit extra into the project. They went the extra
>mile, and built something exceptional. And with soul.
>
>It's 30 years old, and it still copes happily with modern roads, modern
>traffic, and can make bigger bikes work a little bit harder than they
>thought they'd have to, to keep it in sight. It's truly one of Japan's
>finest designs.

I want mine back.

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Timo Geusch

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Jul 22, 2007, 3:29:28 PM7/22/07
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Ace wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
> chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
> Great write-up, wish I was there. Mebbe next year.
>
> > And the 400 Four? Everyone who chased it around the countryside was
> > surprised at just how well it goes, when wound up. I utterly adore
> > it. You get the feeling that when they built it, the engineers and
> > developers put just a bit extra into the project. They went the
> > extra mile, and built something exceptional. And with soul.
> >
> > It's 30 years old, and it still copes happily with modern roads,
> > modern traffic, and can make bigger bikes work a little bit harder
> > than they thought they'd have to, to keep it in sight. It's truly
> > one of Japan's finest designs.
>
> I want mine back.

Buy mine instead.

Wicked Uncle Nigel

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Jul 22, 2007, 3:38:49 PM7/22/07
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, AW
<andre...@hotmail.com> typed

>steve auvache wrote:
>
>> What is all this crap about floods and raining and stuff? We had a
>> light shower on Friday morning but other than that it has been the usual
>> boring old blue skies and fluffy clouds.
>
>
>It bloody rained in SE London - my garage got flooded. :-(

Ooh fook. Are all those nice SOBs OK?

--
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AW

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Jul 22, 2007, 4:00:38 PM7/22/07
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Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

> >It bloody rained in SE London - my garage got flooded. :-(
>
> Ooh fook. Are all those nice SOBs OK?


Aye. It's a bit damp on the floor in there currently but the water
just flowed out again once it had stopped raining. There's a thin
muddy layer I'll have to sweep out when it dries.

The house is a bit musty as the water didn't really get in but went
through the airbricks so it's all smelling a bit musty ATM.


The Older Gentleman

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Jul 22, 2007, 4:02:52 PM7/22/07
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Timo Geusch <tnewsSP...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:

> And I can help to notice that you fail to mention a certain brake
> fettle that was going on simultaneously to Ginge & myself fiddling with
> his bike...

Ah. Forgot about that....

Ace

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Jul 22, 2007, 4:47:33 PM7/22/07
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:29:28 +0100, "Timo Geusch"
<tnewsSP...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:

>Ace wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
>> chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>> Great write-up, wish I was there. Mebbe next year.
>>
>> > And the 400 Four?

>> > It's truly one of Japan's finest designs.


>>
>> I want mine back.
>
>Buy mine instead.

It's overpriced, over-Timoed and over there.

Champ

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Jul 22, 2007, 6:28:35 PM7/22/07
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:


>And the 400 Four? Everyone who chased it around the countryside was
>surprised at just how well it goes, when wound up. I utterly adore it.
>You get the feeling that when they built it, the engineers and
>developers put just a bit extra into the project. They went the extra
>mile, and built something exceptional. And with soul.
>
>It's 30 years old, and it still copes happily with modern roads, modern
>traffic, and can make bigger bikes work a little bit harder than they
>thought they'd have to, to keep it in sight. It's truly one of Japan's
>finest designs.

No arguments from me.

I am similarly enamoured with my turbo. OK, it's not as old as yours,
but it's still over 20 years old now, and is just so much fun to ride.
Two up, with luggage, it cruises at 100mph with no problem. After I
dropped Ginny off in London, I fought my way round the the south
circular and then set the controls to the heart of Gloucestershire at
a steady 110mph, and off we went. Once I got on the A419 at Swindon,
I upped the ante to 120. Fabulous, fabulous bike - I shall keep it
forever.

--
Champ

ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
To email me, neal at my domain should work.

Eddie

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Jul 22, 2007, 6:42:30 PM7/22/07
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Champ wrote:
>
> I am similarly enamoured with my turbo. OK, it's not as old as yours,
> but it's still over 20 years old now, and is just so much fun to ride.
> Two up, with luggage, it cruises at 100mph with no problem. After I
^^^^^^

> dropped Ginny off in London, I fought my way round the the south
> circular and then set the controls to the heart of Gloucestershire at
> a steady 110mph, and off we went. Once I got on the A419 at Swindon,
^^^^^^

> I upped the ante to 120. Fabulous, fabulous bike - I shall keep it
^^^
> forever.

Since purchasing a GPS for the bike, I've discovered that Kawasaki
speedos[0] are incredibly optimistic once over 70mph.

What I thought was a nice comfortable cruise of 100mph turns out to be
just over 90mph; no wonder it seemed comfortable. 110mph on the clock
barely breaks the ton in real life; and so on, up through the dial.
Hardly surprising, mind.

I think I may have upset a few people on my way home, mind.


[0] Well, maybe not all of them, but the one on the 9R anyway.
--
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christofire

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Jul 22, 2007, 7:05:40 PM7/22/07
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The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Frog came back, swayed off thebike, staggered over to Andy, nearly
> weeping, flung his arms round him, gave him a kiss on both cheeks, and
> went into a long stream of animated French to his mates about what
> 85bhp more than anything he'd ever ridden felt like.

Another one sold then.

Sounds like a good trip, bar the swimming lesson at the start. Good to
see that everyone who set out to the place got to the place.

--
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Grimly Curmudgeon

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Jul 22, 2007, 8:12:13 PM7/22/07
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember AW <andre...@hotmail.com> saying
something like:

Groovy sandals.
--
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GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

Bear

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Jul 22, 2007, 8:17:55 PM7/22/07
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In article <1sr7a3lf4r3j0jfk0...@4ax.com>,
vulgarandmischevious says...

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:21:58 +0200 Ace wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
> >chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
> >
> ><Snip>
> >
> >Great write-up, wish I was there. Mebbe next year.
> >
> >>And the 400 Four? Everyone who chased it around the countryside was
> >>surprised at just how well it goes, when wound up. I utterly adore it.
> >>You get the feeling that when they built it, the engineers and
> >>developers put just a bit extra into the project. They went the extra
> >>mile, and built something exceptional. And with soul.
> >>
> >>It's 30 years old, and it still copes happily with modern roads, modern
> >>traffic, and can make bigger bikes work a little bit harder than they
> >>thought they'd have to, to keep it in sight. It's truly one of Japan's
> >>finest designs.
> >
> >I want mine back.
>
> It was Jude's, wasn't it?
>
> Anyway, I'm going to ship the fucker to Colorado.

Oh good call.
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The Older Gentleman

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vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100 The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
> >Blow me down, we were 15, thanks to the surprise last-minute appearance
> >of S Packer on his Beemer.
>

> Did he eat steak tartare without cutlery again?

No. He produced a steak half the size of a buffalo, but he did actually
cook it this time.
>
> Where *is* that photo?

Good question.

The Older Gentleman

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christofire <ch...@ukrm.org> wrote:

> Good to
> see that everyone who set out to the place got to the place.

We've always managed it, although there have been some close calls....

And Ginge only *just* managed to get back. His battery was so fucked
that on the last 25-mile stage to Timo's, when he used the indicators,
the engine cut out and he got a killswitch backfire with every flash.

Cab

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Jul 23, 2007, 2:43:26 AM7/23/07
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Brownz (Mobile) wrote:


> Lets do it again next year (when I'll have special glasses for
> spotting the ol gendarmerie sitting on bridges).

You got nicked?

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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:00:37 -0600, vulgarandmischevious
<vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:21:58 +0200 Ace wrote:
>

>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
>>chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>><Snip>

>>>And the 400 Four?

>>I want mine back.
>
>It was Jude's, wasn't it?

Well, in theory, but she only rode it about twice after she passed her
test. Just never really got on with it.

>Anyway, I'm going to ship the fucker to Colorado.

<sulks>

Actually, I could see that. Your ratty gixxer's not at all suitable
for the huge[1] amount of in-town driving, although I'd still like to
take it up Pike's peak, providing the rozzers weren't about ;-)


[1] I was amazed at the surface area covered by the city.

Champ

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:18:52 AM7/23/07
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:42:30 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>>
>> I am similarly enamoured with my turbo. OK, it's not as old as yours,
>> but it's still over 20 years old now, and is just so much fun to ride.
>> Two up, with luggage, it cruises at 100mph with no problem. After I
> ^^^^^^
>> dropped Ginny off in London, I fought my way round the the south
>> circular and then set the controls to the heart of Gloucestershire at
>> a steady 110mph, and off we went. Once I got on the A419 at Swindon,
> ^^^^^^
>> I upped the ante to 120. Fabulous, fabulous bike - I shall keep it
> ^^^
>> forever.
>
>Since purchasing a GPS for the bike, I've discovered that Kawasaki
>speedos[0] are incredibly optimistic once over 70mph.

Yeah, but the number is just a useful reference. I'm sure mine is a
fair bit out, but at an indicated 120 it's passing everything, so I'm
happy :-)

Andy Bonwick

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:19:37 AM7/23/07
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Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
and we can chalk it up as a success.

dog

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:27:22 AM7/23/07
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> And then the 400 ran onto reserve just outside Dover, and 20 miles from
> the Schloss, with no filling stations in sight. By slipstreaming a bus
> for most of the way we made it,

ashford services? clacket lane?
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sl1000 two#5

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:52:59 AM7/23/07
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Timo's gaff, and there are fuel stations all round where he lives. I
squeezed over 13 litres into the 400: I think the tank capacity is a
whisker under 14 litres.

M J Carley

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Jul 23, 2007, 5:00:58 AM7/23/07
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In the referenced article, Andy Bonwick <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> writes:

>Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
>and we can chalk it up as a success.

<Brian Hanrahan>
I counted them all out and I counted them all back in again.
</Brian Hanrahan>
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christofire

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Jul 23, 2007, 5:15:27 AM7/23/07
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Andy Bonwick wrote:

> Good to
> > see that everyone who set out to the place got to the place.
>
> Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
> and we can chalk it up as a success.

You noticed the deliberate choice of words then?

Eddie

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Jul 23, 2007, 5:33:44 AM7/23/07
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Champ wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:42:30 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:
>
>> Since purchasing a GPS for the bike, I've discovered that Kawasaki
>> speedos[0] are incredibly optimistic once over 70mph.
>
> Yeah, but the number is just a useful reference. I'm sure mine is a
> fair bit out, but at an indicated 120 it's passing everything, so I'm
> happy :-)

Absolutely.

The thing that slowed me down the most was just the amount of traffic on
UK roads; it came as a real shock after belting up through France on
roads that were nearly empty.

Phil Launchbury

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Jul 23, 2007, 5:36:56 AM7/23/07
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In article <1i1o0do.k1kvzq5a0h6wN%chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com>, The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
> And the 400 Four? Everyone who chased it around the countryside was
> surprised at just how well it goes, when wound up. I utterly adore it.
> You get the feeling that when they built it, the engineers and
> developers put just a bit extra into the project. They went the extra
> mile, and built something exceptional. And with soul.

My oldest brother had one - he sold it (and bought it back) 3 times..

When he eventually sold it for the final time he didn't get another
bike for 10 years.

Phil.

--
Phil Launchbury, IT PHB
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

Champ

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Jul 23, 2007, 5:53:56 AM7/23/07
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Christ yes. The M20 is always a particular torture when coming back
from Europe - it's like "Welcome to England - it's crowded, and the
people are bad tempered and can't drive very well".

TOG@toil

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:23:29 AM7/23/07
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On 23 Jul, 11:53, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:33:44 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:
> >Champ wrote:
> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:42:30 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:
>
> >>> Since purchasing a GPS for the bike, I've discovered that Kawasaki
> >>> speedos[0] are incredibly optimistic once over 70mph.
>
> >> Yeah, but the number is just a useful reference. I'm sure mine is a
> >> fair bit out, but at an indicated 120 it's passing everything, so I'm
> >> happy :-)
>
> >Absolutely.
>
> >The thing that slowed me down the most was just the amount of traffic on
> >UK roads; it came as a real shock after belting up through France on
> >roads that were nearly empty.
>
> Christ yes. The M20 is always a particular torture when coming back
> from Europe - it's like "Welcome to England - it's crowded, and the
> people are bad tempered and can't drive very well".


It's that hill up out of Dover to the M20 that gets me, every time.

"I can see you're coming up behind me really fast, and I know I'm only
doing 50mph, but I'm going to overtake that truck half a mile ahead,
even if it takes me five minutes to reach it....|"

And then they hoot angrily when you overtake them on the inside.

Champ

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:38:16 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:23:29 -0700,
TOG@toil,chateau...@btinternet.com,
<chateau...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>> Christ yes. The M20 is always a particular torture when coming back
>> from Europe - it's like "Welcome to England - it's crowded, and the
>> people are bad tempered and can't drive very well".

>It's that hill up out of Dover to the M20 that gets me, every time.
>
>"I can see you're coming up behind me really fast, and I know I'm only
>doing 50mph, but I'm going to overtake that truck half a mile ahead,
>even if it takes me five minutes to reach it....|"
>
>And then they hoot angrily when you overtake them on the inside.

Yesterday, it was trucks from one far-away part of eastern europe
overtaking other trucks from another far-away part of easter europe.

Andy Bonwick

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:41:20 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:23:29 -0700,
TOG@toil,chateau...@btinternet.com,
<chateau...@btinternet.com> wrote:

snip>


>
>It's that hill up out of Dover to the M20 that gets me, every time.
>
>"I can see you're coming up behind me really fast, and I know I'm only
>doing 50mph, but I'm going to overtake that truck half a mile ahead,
>even if it takes me five minutes to reach it....|"
>
>And then they hoot angrily when you overtake them on the inside.

Using the tunnel cut that problem out and once we were off the train
it was only 5 minutes before we were heading up the M20. I'd use the
tunnel again if I was planning a late crossing but under normal
circumstances I'd opt for the ferry so food and drink can be partaken
of.

Eddie

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:47:00 AM7/23/07
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Andy Bonwick wrote:
>
> Using the tunnel cut that problem out and once we were off the train
> it was only 5 minutes before we were heading up the M20. I'd use the
> tunnel again if I was planning a late crossing but under normal
> circumstances I'd opt for the ferry so food and drink can be partaken
> of.

I made sandwiches for my lunch, while I was making my breakfast on
Sunday morning. Organised or what?

ogden

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:12:44 AM7/23/07
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Andy Bonwick wrote:
>
> Using the tunnel cut that problem out and once we were off the train
> it was only 5 minutes before we were heading up the M20. I'd use the
> tunnel again if I was planning a late crossing but under normal
> circumstances I'd opt for the ferry so food and drink can be partaken
> of.

What is this "food" of which you speak?

--
ogden
sv650 - surprisingly quick for a girl's bike

Andy Bonwick

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:21:50 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:12:44 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:

>Andy Bonwick wrote:
>>
>> Using the tunnel cut that problem out and once we were off the train
>> it was only 5 minutes before we were heading up the M20. I'd use the
>> tunnel again if I was planning a late crossing but under normal
>> circumstances I'd opt for the ferry so food and drink can be partaken
>> of.
>
>What is this "food" of which you speak?

A packet of crisps.

Champ

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:23:36 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:41:20 +0100, Andy Bonwick
<nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

>I'd use the
>tunnel again if I was planning a late crossing but under normal
>circumstances I'd opt for the ferry so food and drink can be partaken
>of.

That was my thinking - in both directions we didn't have to worry
about stopping elsewhere for food, as we could eat on the boat.

ginge

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:26:05 AM7/23/07
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> "Ginge, FOR FUCK'S SAKE, turn the steering so it's pointing DOWNHILL
> when I'm pushing instead of UP THE FUCKING LOADING RAMP!!!!"
>
> I swear, I thought I was going to have a coronary.

Thanks for all the assistance, without it I suspect I'd be dealing with
a fully loaded dropped ZRX, in some god forsaken french ferry port. I
think the highlight had to be the indicators making it backfire
though... now that's a flat battery.

> OK, onto the boat, away, and Timo came thorugh with the news that he'd
> located a brand new battery at Hein Gericke in Maidstone, and it would
> be waiting at the Schloss. Top man.

And also huge thanks to Timo, I'm impressed you managed to find a
battery, so late on a Sunday afternoon. You#re a real lifesaver.

ogden

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:27:16 AM7/23/07
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"liquid bread"

ginge

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:29:15 AM7/23/07
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Des wrote:
> The Older Gentleman <chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> > I rode from Calais to the hotel at Maubeuge in company with Ginge on his
> > ZRX. He was complaining of a funny smell from the bike, and was
> > wondering whether a mouse or similar had crawled into it and perished.
>
> That wasn't a dead mouse. Do a search for phenylketonuria and "mousy smell"
> and check out some of the other symptoms.

Heh.

M J Carley

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:33:50 AM7/23/07
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In the referenced article, TOG@toil,chateau...@btinternet.com, <chateau...@btinternet.com> writes:

>It's that hill up out of Dover to the M20 that gets me, every time.
>
>"I can see you're coming up behind me really fast, and I know I'm only
>doing 50mph, but I'm going to overtake that truck half a mile ahead,
>even if it takes me five minutes to reach it....|"
>
>And then they hoot angrily when you overtake them on the inside.

Then there are the tossers who hammer up from behind and flash you
because obviously you're going to move over to the left into the side
of an artic. They also seem to believe that moving into the few metres
of space between you and the next vehicle will really save them some
time.

I think some people just don't like being behind a bike.

Champ

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:51:33 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:33:50 GMT, ens...@bath.ac.uk (M J Carley)
wrote:

>In the referenced article, TOG@toil,chateau...@btinternet.com, <chateau...@btinternet.com> writes:
>
>>It's that hill up out of Dover to the M20 that gets me, every time.
>>
>>"I can see you're coming up behind me really fast, and I know I'm only
>>doing 50mph, but I'm going to overtake that truck half a mile ahead,
>>even if it takes me five minutes to reach it....|"
>>
>>And then they hoot angrily when you overtake them on the inside.
>
>Then there are the tossers who hammer up from behind and flash you
>because obviously you're going to move over to the left into the side
>of an artic. They also seem to believe that moving into the few metres
>of space between you and the next vehicle will really save them some
>time.
>
>I think some people just don't like being behind a bike.

Y'know, I don't think I've ever experienced this.

M J Carley

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:59:50 AM7/23/07
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In the referenced article, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> writes:
>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:33:50 GMT, ens...@bath.ac.uk (M J Carley)
>wrote:

>>Then there are the tossers who hammer up from behind and flash you


>>because obviously you're going to move over to the left into the side
>>of an artic. They also seem to believe that moving into the few metres
>>of space between you and the next vehicle will really save them some
>>time.
>>
>>I think some people just don't like being behind a bike.
>
>Y'know, I don't think I've ever experienced this.

You surprise me. It is a pain, though, being caught between a barrier
on the right, a Slavic artic on the left, a dawdling line of cars in
front and a nervous passenger between you and the psycho in the Corsa.

TOG@toil

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Jul 23, 2007, 8:52:22 AM7/23/07
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On 23 Jul, 12:41, Andy Bonwick <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:23:29 -0700,
> TOG@toil,chateau.mur...@btinternet.com,
>


> Using the tunnel cut that problem out and once we were off the train
> it was only 5 minutes before we were heading up the M20. I'd use the
> tunnel again if I was planning a late crossing but under normal
> circumstances I'd opt for the ferry so food and drink can be partaken
> of.

I was just peeling onto the M20 at Ashford, after the stop at Timo's,
when I saw you and Adie hammering past in the outside lane. Remarkably
restrained, you both were: maybe 90mph?

Ace

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Jul 23, 2007, 9:02:09 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:59:50 GMT, ens...@bath.ac.uk (M J Carley)
wrote:

>In the referenced article, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> writes:
>>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:33:50 GMT, ens...@bath.ac.uk (M J Carley)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Then there are the tossers who hammer up from behind and flash you
>>>because obviously you're going to move over to the left into the side
>>>of an artic. They also seem to believe that moving into the few metres
>>>of space between you and the next vehicle will really save them some
>>>time.
>>>
>>>I think some people just don't like being behind a bike.
>>
>>Y'know, I don't think I've ever experienced this.
>
>You surprise me. It is a pain, though, being caught between a barrier
>on the right, a Slavic artic on the left, a dawdling line of cars in
>front

This is where you're going wrong. There's never a reason for a
dawdling line of cars to stay in front of you.

Andy Bonwick

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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:52:22 -0700,
TOG@toil,chateau...@btinternet.com,
<chateau...@btinternet.com> wrote:

We thought it was you but couldn't work out why you'd have been coming
onto the motorway at that junction, I suggested that fuel might be 2p
per litre cheaper than anywhere else so it was worth the detour....

You're probably right about the speed, we got the excess speed bit out
of the way while we were in France where speed limits are advisory. I
think I was doing just over an indicated 150mph when I went past Champ
a few miles shy of Calais.

Champ

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Jul 23, 2007, 9:06:29 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:05:06 +0100, Andy Bonwick
<nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

>I think I was doing just over an indicated 150mph when I went past Champ
>a few miles shy of Calais.

heh. That was *exactly* my estimate of your speed :-)

I have to say your bike sounded fantastic as it came past.

--
Champ

Andy Bonwick

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Jul 23, 2007, 9:13:03 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:06:29 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:05:06 +0100, Andy Bonwick
><nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>I think I was doing just over an indicated 150mph when I went past Champ
>>a few miles shy of Calais.
>
>heh. That was *exactly* my estimate of your speed :-)
>

You were just leaving the toll booths when we arrived there and I
wasn't sure we'd catch you before you turned off for the ferry. Adie
had decided to speed test her R1 and reckoned that because of the
luggage it got 'a bit squirrely' at 140 so she backed off.

>I have to say your bike sounded fantastic as it came past.

Yeah, you even get more power as well as a nice racket.

M J Carley

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Jul 23, 2007, 9:27:31 AM7/23/07
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In the referenced article, Ace <see...@virgin.net> writes:
>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:59:50 GMT, ens...@bath.ac.uk (M J Carley)
>wrote:

>>You surprise me. It is a pain, though, being caught between a


>>barrier on the right, a Slavic artic on the left, a dawdling line of
>>cars in front

>This is where you're going wrong. There's never a reason for a
>dawdling line of cars to stay in front of you.

I'm not a fast rider and certainly not a fast rider on a Pan with a
full load of luggage and panniers full of her necessaries *but* on
that particular stretch of road, I think I have some excuse.

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Jul 23, 2007, 10:47:42 AM7/23/07
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember
chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) saying
something like:

>And Ginge only *just* managed to get back. His battery was so fucked
>that on the last 25-mile stage to Timo's, when he used the indicators,
>the engine cut out and he got a killswitch backfire with every flash.

Had you or he put any liquid in it once you discovered it was boiled
dry?
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

ginge

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Jul 23, 2007, 10:50:48 AM7/23/07
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember
> chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) saying
> something like:
>
> >And Ginge only *just* managed to get back. His battery was so fucked
> >that on the last 25-mile stage to Timo's, when he used the indicators,
> >the engine cut out and he got a killswitch backfire with every flash.
>
> Had you or he put any liquid in it once you discovered it was boiled
> dry?

It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
better days..

Brownz (Mobile)

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:05:27 AM7/23/07
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Cab wrote:
> Brownz (Mobile) wrote:
>
>
>> Lets do it again next year (when I'll have special glasses for
>> spotting the ol gendarmerie sitting on bridges).
>
> You got nicked?

130 in a 110 I think would normally get you nicked, especially with UK
plates.

But with lots of apologising, smiling, pidgeon french and some semi gallic
shrugs / hand gestures, the nice madam and monsieur sent me on the way with
just a "Keep an eye on the signs sir".

Result.

--
Cheerz - Brownz
http://www.brownz.org/


TOG@toil

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:07:48 AM7/23/07
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On 23 Jul, 16:50, ginge <the.gingeREM...@THISgmail.com> wrote:

>
> It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
> better days..


Shame you didn't think this before setting out with it, innit? ;-)

To be fair, I should have recognised the smell, because I've whiffed a
boiled-out battery before.

TOG@toil

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:08:19 AM7/23/07
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On 23 Jul, 15:05, Andy Bonwick <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:52:22 -0700,
> TOG@toil,chateau.mur...@btinternet.com,

>
>
>
> We thought it was you but couldn't work out why you'd have been coming
> onto the motorway at that junction, I suggested that fuel might be 2p
> per litre cheaper than anywhere else so it was worth the detour....
>

Cnut....

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:10:12 AM7/23/07
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember ginge
<the.gin...@THISgmail.com> saying something like:

>> Had you or he put any liquid in it once you discovered it was boiled
>> dry?
>
>It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
>better days..

I've always thought sealed batts were an exercise in hope; they're
exactly the same as a non-sealed one when slightly overcharged, as
you've found. Anyway, many of them are only a drillbit away from being
non-sealed and fully topped up.

dog

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:10:56 AM7/23/07
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M J Carley wrote:
> >>You surprise me. It is a pain, though, being caught between a
> >>barrier on the right, a Slavic artic on the left, a dawdling line of
> >>cars in front
>
> >This is where you're going wrong. There's never a reason for a
> >dawdling line of cars to stay in front of you.
>
> I'm not a fast rider and certainly not a fast rider on a Pan with a
> full load of luggage and panniers full of her necessaries *but* on
> that particular stretch of road, I think I have some excuse.

pan euro high speed weave? ;)
--
dog
sl1000 two#5

ginge

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:19:05 AM7/23/07
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wrote:

> On 23 Jul, 16:50, ginge <the.gingeREM...@THISgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
> > better days..
>
>
> Shame you didn't think this before setting out with it, innit? ;-)

well, yes but it didn't smell before I left, and seemed to hold charge,
not sure how I could have known until the smell started up when I
stopped in Dover.. Maybe it just didn't want to go home.



> To be fair, I should have recognised the smell, because I've whiffed a
> boiled-out battery before.

I think I'll rememebr it next time. I also seem to have a bit of a
bunged up nose, I wonder if that's down to sniffing acid battery acid
several times over the weekend and not realising.

SD

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:22:51 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:23:29 -0700,
TOG@toil,chateau...@btinternet.com,
<chateau...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>"I can see you're coming up behind me really fast, and I know I'm only
>doing 50mph, but I'm going to overtake that truck half a mile ahead,
>even if it takes me five minutes to reach it....|"

You'd have been proud of Platy this afternoon on the A26 to Calais:
throttle pinned, speed wavering between 58 and 62, it took a Spanish
coach more than eight miles to get past us. :)
--
| ___ Salad Dodger
|/ \
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|_\_____/_| ..90668../..24701.../..31928.
(>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG*
|__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5
\ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
\|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11
'^' RBR Clues: 26 Pts:0500 Miles:1739

Paul - xxx

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:24:42 AM7/23/07
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember ginge
> <the.gin...@THISgmail.com> saying something like:
>
>>> Had you or he put any liquid in it once you discovered it was boiled
>>> dry?
>>
>> It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
>> better days..
>
> I've always thought sealed batts were an exercise in hope; they're
> exactly the same as a non-sealed one when slightly overcharged, as
> you've found. Anyway, many of them are only a drillbit away from being
> non-sealed and fully topped up.

'specially when it's already fecked anyway.

--
Paul - xxx


SD

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:25:13 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:15:15 +0100,
chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>christofire <ch...@ukrm.org> wrote:
>
>> Good to
>> see that everyone who set out to the place got to the place.
>
>We've always managed it, although there have been some close calls....


>
>And Ginge only *just* managed to get back. His battery was so fucked
>that on the last 25-mile stage to Timo's, when he used the indicators,
>the engine cut out and he got a killswitch backfire with every flash.

The CBX did that last year, when it ate its alternator brushes.

SD

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:26:16 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:19:37 +0100, Andy Bonwick
<nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:


>Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
>and we can chalk it up as a success.

<waves> Left Mr Iggins at the Eurotunnel exit, and not sure if Platy
got on our train.

M J Carley

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:17:30 AM7/23/07
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Yesterday I couldn't understand why the ride was so bouncy. After
doing a long trip with a lot of luggage, it's a good idea to put your
suspension settings back to where they were for unloaded riding.

SD

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:48:59 AM7/23/07
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,

chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:


>Oh, and it was CIHAGM time with Platy's outfit. I loved it: Champ was
>scared witless by it. So it goes.

I was expecting a slightly longer commentary on this bit, you
homicidal maniac.


>Adie went for a sulk in her tent. "She had a right face on her," said
>Dodger, next morning. "I asked her if she was being the sensible one
>this weekend, and she just looked at me, and I thought I'd get out of
>her way..."

I very nearly widdled myself in terror.

Sunday evening/night was successful, too. I fell asleep in the
sidecar, and got sunburnt; we *didn't* eat in the shite caff[1] in the
square, though it was close shave; two Chimay trackside banners were
"liberated" and much more beer was consumed.

Oh, and fire was still going when we left, in the rain.

[1] the one next door does sublime steak with Roquefort sauce. With a
Chimay Rouge, 17 Euros. Bargain.

Champ

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:57:32 AM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:48:59 +0100, SD <salad....@dsl.pipex.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
>chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
>
>>Oh, and it was CIHAGM time with Platy's outfit. I loved it: Champ was
>>scared witless by it. So it goes.
>
>I was expecting a slightly longer commentary on this bit, you
>homicidal maniac.

Me too.

I've never ridden a sidecar before [1]. Not only did everything I
know about ridding motorcycles not help, it actively got in the way.
I was heard to shout "turn left, you cunting thing", at one point.
I'm really, really glad the thing would only do about 50mph.

Still, I did better than Sweller. He didn't manage to get off the
camp site before his passengers elected to bail out and walk back.

However, it was a heap of fun, and the single most amusing bit was
riding it backwards.

[1] Not quite true - I did try and ride a mates semi-race kneeler at
an airfield in about 1987. I completely failed to make it go in a the
direction I wanted. Hmmm...

TOG@toil

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Jul 23, 2007, 12:03:17 PM7/23/07
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On 23 Jul, 17:19, ginge <the.gingeREM...@THISgmail.com> wrote:

>
> I think I'll rememebr it next time. I also seem to have a bit of a
> bunged up nose, I wonder if that's down to sniffing acid battery acid
> several times over the weekend and not realising.


And nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of Chimay Rouge you
ingested?

Phil Launchbury

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Jul 23, 2007, 11:47:34 AM7/23/07
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In article <JLn156.3...@bath.ac.uk>, M J Carley wrote:
> In the referenced article, dog <d...@dev.null> writes:
>>M J Carley wrote:
>>
>>pan euro high speed weave? ;)
>
> Yesterday I couldn't understand why the ride was so bouncy. After
> doing a long trip with a lot of luggage, it's a good idea to put your
> suspension settings back to where they were for unloaded riding.

I had that with my old ZX-10 (the old-style one) the guy before me had
fitted Maxton shocks to it and they were variable pressure jobbies. The
one year I went touring on it I spent the two days afterwards wondering
why it handled so badly until I realised that the suspension was stiill
set to rock-hard..

Phil.

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TOG@toil

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Jul 23, 2007, 12:05:37 PM7/23/07
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On 23 Jul, 17:26, SD <salad.dod...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:19:37 +0100, Andy Bonwick
>
> <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
> >Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
> >and we can chalk it up as a success.
>
> <waves> Left Mr Iggins at the Eurotunnel exit, and not sure if Platy
> got on our train.


Hoorah! No casualties! Makes you proud to be British.

TOG@toil

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Jul 23, 2007, 12:06:58 PM7/23/07
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On 23 Jul, 17:57, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:48:59 +0100, SD <salad.dod...@dsl.pipex.com>

> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
> >chateau.murray.takethis...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> >>Oh, and it was CIHAGM time with Platy's outfit. I loved it: Champ was
> >>scared witless by it. So it goes.
>
> >I was expecting a slightly longer commentary on this bit, you
> >homicidal maniac.
>
> Me too.
>
> I've never ridden a sidecar before [1]. Not only did everything I
> know about ridding motorcycles not help, it actively got in the way.
> I was heard to shout "turn left, you cunting thing", at one point.
> I'm really, really glad the thing would only do about 50mph.

Wimp! I managed nearly 60 on the clock, with Dodger screaming like a
girl on the pillion seat.

>
> Still, I did better than Sweller. He didn't manage to get off the
> camp site before his passengers elected to bail out and walk back.
>

Yes, I'd forgotten that. That was *really* funny.

dog

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Jul 23, 2007, 12:13:55 PM7/23/07
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TOG toil chateau.murray btinternet.com wrote:
> > I think I'll rememebr it next time. I also seem to have a bit of a
> > bunged up nose, I wonder if that's down to sniffing acid battery acid
> > several times over the weekend and not realising.
>
> And nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of Chimay Rouge you
> ingested?

given that it was a sealed battery...
--
dog
sl1000 two#5

Brownz (Mobile)

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Jul 23, 2007, 12:19:53 PM7/23/07
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SD wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:23:29 -0700,
> TOG@toil,chateau...@btinternet.com,
> <chateau...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> "I can see you're coming up behind me really fast, and I know I'm
>> only doing 50mph, but I'm going to overtake that truck half a mile
>> ahead, even if it takes me five minutes to reach it....|"
>
> You'd have been proud of Platy this afternoon on the A26 to Calais:
> throttle pinned, speed wavering between 58 and 62, it took a Spanish
> coach more than eight miles to get past us. :)

*Class*

ginge

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Jul 23, 2007, 1:04:42 PM7/23/07
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wrote:

Actually I didn't drink much of that, a red, a blue, and the rest of the
time I was on cooking lager.

So I'm blaming the acid.

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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Jul 23, 2007, 1:01:22 PM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:26:05 +0100, ginge <the.gin...@THISgmail.com>
wrote in <MPG.210ea0a95...@news.zen.co.uk>:

> Thanks for all the assistance, without it I suspect I'd be dealing with
> a fully loaded dropped ZRX, in some god forsaken french ferry port. I
> think the highlight had to be the indicators making it backfire
> though... now that's a flat battery.

Yes, had that one Easter back about 1973 on a T500R, riding from
the Australian Grand Prix at Bathurst to a mate's 21st in Maitland.
Bloody thing ran better with more load on the charger so I was pottering
down desolate dirt roads with my brake-lights on to keep the engine
firing. As you say, indicators around intersections were ...interesting.

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Bear

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Jul 23, 2007, 1:36:57 PM7/23/07
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In article <MPG.210ef004d...@news.zen.co.uk>, ginge says...

It was baaaad acid, man.
--
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ginge

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Jul 23, 2007, 1:55:30 PM7/23/07
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sweller wrote:

> SD wrote:
>
> > You'd have been proud of Platy this afternoon on the A26 to Calais:
> > throttle pinned, speed wavering between 58 and 62, it took a Spanish
> > coach more than eight miles to get past us. :)
>
> When I saw him last he was being escorted off the motorway (M20) by the
> Highways Agency.

Was he putting up a fight?

Brownz (Mobile)

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Jul 23, 2007, 2:01:57 PM7/23/07
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sweller wrote:

> SD wrote:
>
>> You'd have been proud of Platy this afternoon on the A26 to Calais:
>> throttle pinned, speed wavering between 58 and 62, it took a Spanish
>> coach more than eight miles to get past us. :)
>
> When I saw him last he was being escorted off the motorway (M20) by
> the Highways Agency.

Eh ? !

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Andy Bonwick

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Jul 23, 2007, 2:06:51 PM7/23/07
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On 23 Jul 2007 18:04:00 GMT, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Brownz (Mobile) wrote:
>
>> > > You'd have been proud of Platy this afternoon on the A26 to Calais:
>> > > throttle pinned, speed wavering between 58 and 62, it took a Spanish
>> > > coach more than eight miles to get past us. :)
>> >
>> > When I saw him last he was being escorted off the motorway (M20) by
>> > the Highways Agency.
>>
>> Eh ? !
>

>I don't know why. I didn't bother stopping.

Probably for the best. He might have expected you to admit that you
know him.

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Cab

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Jul 23, 2007, 2:00:45 PM7/23/07
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Brownz (Mobile) wrote:

> Cab wrote:
> > Brownz (Mobile) wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Lets do it again next year (when I'll have special glasses for
> > > spotting the ol gendarmerie sitting on bridges).
> >
> > You got nicked?
>
> 130 in a 110 I think would normally get you nicked, especially with
> UK plates.
>
> But with lots of apologising, smiling, pidgeon french and some semi
> gallic shrugs / hand gestures, the nice madam and monsieur sent me on
> the way with just a "Keep an eye on the signs sir".
>
> Result.

<G> Lucky bugger. Mind you, it's only 20kph over the limit.

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steve auvache

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Jul 23, 2007, 2:39:08 PM7/23/07
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In article <0ir9a31fq6juur86b...@4ax.com>, Adie
<sp...@bonwick.me.uk> writes

>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:57:32 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>Still, I did better than Sweller. He didn't manage to get off the
>>camp site before his passengers elected to bail out and walk back.
>
>actually it was on the way back I decided to bail.
>
>almost hitting a car on the way out [1], almost hitting the kerb on
>turning round, almost hitting a post on the way back in and finally
>getting it stuck in some mud did it for me.

Not frightened of a little bit of danger are you biker girl?

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A Bloo one with built in safety features

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Higgins

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Jul 23, 2007, 3:41:13 PM7/23/07
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steve auvache wrote:
> In article <1i1o0do.k1kvzq5a0h6wN%chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.c
> om>, The Older Gentleman <chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com>
> writes
>> Hell is not a hot place. Hell is underwater. I know, because I've been
>> there, on Friday 20 July.
>>
>> I have never, ever seen sustained rain like it.
>
> What is all this crap about floods and raining and stuff? We had a
> light shower on Friday morning but other than that it has been the usual
> boring old blue skies and fluffy clouds.
Hmmm, as I was trundling down the M25 at about 1000, it was so dark I
had to check that I hadn't forgotten to change from dark to clear visor.
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Higgins

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:09:32 PM7/23/07
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ginge wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> "Ginge, FOR FUCK'S SAKE, turn the steering so it's pointing DOWNHILL
>> when I'm pushing instead of UP THE FUCKING LOADING RAMP!!!!"
>>
>> I swear, I thought I was going to have a coronary.

>
> Thanks for all the assistance, without it I suspect I'd be dealing with
> a fully loaded dropped ZRX, in some god forsaken french ferry port. I
> think the highlight had to be the indicators making it backfire
> though... now that's a flat battery.
Ah, that explains why I kept having to duck whilst behind you[1].

[1]NO, I am not. I was just contend to tag along at the back.

steve auvache

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:15:28 PM7/23/07
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In article <961aa3t2344nh98fm...@4ax.com>, Adie
<sp...@bonwick.me.uk> writes
>obviously not. look who I married.

An excellent point Madam and if I may be so bold as to say, brilliantly
put.

Higgins

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:32:25 PM7/23/07
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SD wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
> chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
>
>> Oh, and it was CIHAGM time with Platy's outfit. I loved it: Champ was
>> scared witless by it. So it goes.
>
> I was expecting a slightly longer commentary on this bit, you
> homicidal maniac.
>
>
>> Adie went for a sulk in her tent. "She had a right face on her," said
>> Dodger, next morning. "I asked her if she was being the sensible one
>> this weekend, and she just looked at me, and I thought I'd get out of
>> her way..."
>
> I very nearly widdled myself in terror.
>
> Sunday evening/night was successful, too. I fell asleep in the
> sidecar, and got sunburnt;
At risk of ginging myself.

Oh, look http://www.flickr.com/photos/9818916@N05/877717487/

ginge

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:47:20 PM7/23/07
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Higgins wrote:

> ginge wrote:
> > I think the highlight had to be the indicators making it backfire
> > though... now that's a flat battery.
> Ah, that explains why I kept having to duck whilst behind you[1].

Some of those were intentional. :-)

Simian

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:58:22 PM7/23/07
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Higgins wrote:
>
> Oh, look http://www.flickr.com/photos/9818916@N05/877717487/


Oh, I say, remove the fat git and the side car, and that's quite a nice
looking vehicle. What is it again? How much do they cost?


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platypus

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:14:19 PM7/23/07
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sweller wrote:

> Brownz (Mobile) wrote:
>
>>>> You'd have been proud of Platy this afternoon on the A26 to Calais:
>>>> throttle pinned, speed wavering between 58 and 62, it took a
>>>> Spanish coach more than eight miles to get past us. :)
>>>
>>> When I saw him last he was being escorted off the motorway (M20) by
>>> the Highways Agency.
>>
>> Eh ? !
>
> I don't know why. I didn't bother stopping.

Lying toerag.

The rear axle had unwound itself sufficiently to allow the wheel to drift
clear of the splines. Suddenly the gearbox appeared full of false neutrals.
Obviously this wasn't the case, so I dived off onto the hard shoulder, dug
out a couple of spanners and retightened the thing. Then I noticed a biker
pulled over a couple of hundred yards up the road, so I drove up to see if
he needed help. Turned out to be some looney with an ancient black oily
heap of a bike who'd stopped for a nosey. Then the black and tans turned up
to chase off the rubbernecker. I managed to convince them not to arrest
him - I think they were more impressed by my forebearance and magnanimity
than anything else - then sent him packing, and drove off myself.

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"fastidious and precise"

platypus

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:17:26 PM7/23/07
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Champ wrote:
>
> I am similarly enamoured with my turbo. OK, it's not as old as yours,
> but it's still over 20 years old now, and is just so much fun to ride.
> Two up, with luggage, it cruises at 100mph with no problem. After I
> dropped Ginny off in London, I fought my way round the the south
> circular and then set the controls to the heart of Gloucestershire at
> a steady 110mph, and off we went. Once I got on the A419 at Swindon,
> I upped the ante to 120. Fabulous, fabulous bike - I shall keep it
> forever.

Just don't try to ford anything with it - remember what happened to the last
turbo you did that with. And there's many more flooded roads around your
vicinity now.

Bear

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:17:53 PM7/23/07
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In article <%K9pi.2951$By5....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, platypus
says...

You utterly rock :) [1]

[1] and totter, and wobble, and ...
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SD

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:19:05 PM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:17:26 GMT, "platypus"
<mono...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Just don't try to ford anything with it - remember what happened to the last
>turbo you did that with. And there's many more flooded roads around your
>vicinity now.

Please tell me haven't *just* got home.

Apologies for the Eurotunnel fuck-up.
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platypus

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:27:09 PM7/23/07
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Champ wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:48:59 +0100, SD <salad....@dsl.pipex.com>

> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:55 +0100,
>> chateau.murra...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Oh, and it was CIHAGM time with Platy's outfit. I loved it: Champ
>>> was scared witless by it. So it goes.
>>
>> I was expecting a slightly longer commentary on this bit, you
>> homicidal maniac.
>
> Me too.
>
> I've never ridden a sidecar before [1]. Not only did everything I
> know about ridding motorcycles not help, it actively got in the way.
> I was heard to shout "turn left, you cunting thing", at one point.
> I'm really, really glad the thing would only do about 50mph.

>
> Still, I did better than Sweller. He didn't manage to get off the
> camp site before his passengers elected to bail out and walk back.
>
> However, it was a heap of fun, and the single most amusing bit was
> riding it backwards.
>
> [1] Not quite true - I did try and ride a mates semi-race kneeler at
> an airfield in about 1987. I completely failed to make it go in a the
> direction I wanted. Hmmm...

We'll have to find a nice clear area so I can give you some proper
instruction. Outfits are neither malevolent nor uncontrollable; all it
needs is practice and a little understanding.

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