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TD

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Aug 18, 2010, 9:04:43 AM8/18/10
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Busa failed MOT due to front brake binding. That I don't mind. Dealer
wants 222 large for the seal kits. That is, er, interesting. Oh, plus
3-4 hours labour. What are they made of, platinum?

Insert rant about Tokico 6-pots here.

FFS.

Krusty

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Aug 18, 2010, 9:13:52 AM8/18/10
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TD wrote:

> Busa failed MOT due to front brake binding. That I don't mind. Dealer
> wants 222 large for the seal kits. That is, er, interesting. Oh, plus
> 3-4 hours labour. What are they made of, platinum?

<Krusty's recent mantra>

Clean the grooves, check the seals for damage, & if there isn't any,
grease them with rubber brake grease & reuse them.

</Krm>

I've done that with three bikes now (nine calipers) & they've all been
fine since.

If the seals aren't damaged, the only thing causing the binding is
corrosion in the grooves forcing the seals harder against the pistons
than they're supposed to do. That alone doesn't damage the seals ime &
it's perfectly ok to reuse them.

--
Krusty

Raptor 1000 MV 750 Senna Tiger 955i Tiger 885 Fantic Hiro 250

ogden

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Aug 18, 2010, 9:22:12 AM8/18/10
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TD wrote:
> Busa failed MOT due to front brake binding. That I don't mind. Dealer
> wants 222 large for the seal kits. That is, er, interesting.

The thick end of a quarter of a million quid for caliper seals?

That's well through interesting and out the other side.

> Oh, plus
> 3-4 hours labour. What are they made of, platinum?

Rhodium, more like. Or moondust.

--
ogden | gsxr 1000 | ktm duke 2

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Jim

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Aug 18, 2010, 9:28:30 AM8/18/10
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On 18/08/2010 14:23, TD wrote:
> "We won't even attempt to do that, the old seals will have swollen."
>
> If I wasn't in a rush I'd go elsewhere.

If you're going to pay them for the labour involved in stripping &
cleaning then a new seal kit is not that much more. And I guess from
their point of view they don't want to have done a half arsed job and
have you bringing it back to them in 2 months time.

Krusty

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Aug 18, 2010, 9:36:03 AM8/18/10
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Jim wrote:

> On 18/08/2010 14:23, TD wrote:
> > "We won't even attempt to do that, the old seals will have swollen."
> >
> > If I wasn't in a rush I'd go elsewhere.
>
> If you're going to pay them for the labour involved in stripping &
> cleaning then a new seal kit is not that much more.

Did you read his post? It's 222 quid more, which is over half the total
cost.

Krusty

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Aug 18, 2010, 9:37:45 AM8/18/10
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TD wrote:

> On 2010-08-18, Krusty <dontw...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> > TD wrote:
> >
> >> Busa failed MOT due to front brake binding. That I don't mind.
> Dealer >> wants 222 large for the seal kits. That is, er,
> interesting. Oh, plus >> 3-4 hours labour. What are they made of,
> platinum?
> >
> > <Krusty's recent mantra>
> >
> > Clean the grooves, check the seals for damage, & if there isn't any,
> > grease them with rubber brake grease & reuse them.
> >
> > </Krm>
> >
>

> "We won't even attempt to do that, the old seals will have swollen."

That's simply complete bollocks.

> If I wasn't in a rush I'd go elsewhere.

Shame.

Borg

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Aug 18, 2010, 10:44:54 AM8/18/10
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stephen...@gonemail.com

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Aug 18, 2010, 11:04:20 AM8/18/10
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Jim <n...@0.0.0.0> wrote:

The stripping and cleaning is needed whether you reuse the seals or not.

Maybe you could restrain posting to items you have a clue about?

Champ

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Aug 18, 2010, 11:44:50 AM8/18/10
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:04:43 -0700 (PDT), TD <topper...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Talk to Ogden - he got me some pattern seals for me and Gyp to do our
Hayabusas. We'll be having a 'busa brake party when he gets back from
hols. You could come and join us, but I guess you've got to get it
sorted straight away.
--
Champ
We declare that the splendour of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
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ogden

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Aug 18, 2010, 11:47:36 AM8/18/10
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Champ wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:04:43 -0700 (PDT), TD <topper...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Busa failed MOT due to front brake binding. That I don't mind. Dealer
> >wants 222 large for the seal kits. That is, er, interesting. Oh, plus
> >3-4 hours labour. What are they made of, platinum?
> >
> >Insert rant about Tokico 6-pots here.
>
> Talk to Ogden - he got me some pattern seals for me and Gyp to do our
> Hayabusas.

I'm not convinced he did.

Champ

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Aug 18, 2010, 12:13:51 PM8/18/10
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:44:50 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:04:43 -0700 (PDT), TD <topper...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Busa failed MOT due to front brake binding. That I don't mind. Dealer
>>wants 222 large for the seal kits. That is, er, interesting. Oh, plus
>>3-4 hours labour. What are they made of, platinum?
>>
>>Insert rant about Tokico 6-pots here.

>Talk to Ogden

And by 'Ogden', I obviously mean 'Lozzo'

<presses 'reset' button on brain>

SIRPip

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Aug 18, 2010, 12:58:43 PM8/18/10
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Champ wrote:

> <presses 'reset' button on brain>

That's obviously accessible, these days. It's the slight depression,
in which a sensitive finger can feel the imprseed and reversed letters
"MGPO".

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Ace

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Aug 18, 2010, 1:35:39 PM8/18/10
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Pahnd!

SIRPip

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Aug 18, 2010, 2:28:35 PM8/18/10
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SIRPip wrote:

> imprseed

"impressed", you ginger cunt.

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SIRPip : B12

SIRPip

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Aug 18, 2010, 2:30:10 PM8/18/10
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Ace wrote:

That would be one point one eight euros from you, Rogers Major.

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prawn

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Aug 18, 2010, 2:33:38 PM8/18/10
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SIRPip <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> SIRPip wrote:
>
>> imprseed
>
> "impressed", you ginger cunt.
>

imprsee'd is a Kia prototype, surely.
--
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The Older Gentleman

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Aug 18, 2010, 3:00:13 PM8/18/10
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prawn <sean....@gmail.com> wrote:

> SIRPip <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > SIRPip wrote:
> >
> >> imprseed
> >
> > "impressed", you ginger cunt.
> >
>
> imprsee'd is a Kia prototype, surely.

Oh, well batted, Prawn.


--
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Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
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Lozzo

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Aug 18, 2010, 3:18:37 PM8/18/10
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TD wrote:

The robbing cunts. Tell them to order the seals from Hi-Level[1][2],
you'll need 2 packs of 27mm ones and 1 pack of 24mm ones -
unfortunately they come in packs of 5 pairs, but include the main brake
seal and the dust seal for each piston. Hi-Level also do complete
piston and seal kits individually, so you can replace all of them or
just one or two from each caliper.

They are dirt cheap to buy in, so don't take any shit with pricing and
feel free to shout me for advice if you feel they are trying it on. Any
mechanic worth his salt can strip and clean both calipers, fit all new
seals then bleed them through in a workshop environment in no more than
2 1/2 hours.

222 quid is Genuine Suzuki prices for the seals, and fitting them has
been quoted at way more than what the job will actually take. I know
how long it takes, we do it regularly at our place on ZXs of all sizes.

[1] Just as good as original ones IME.
[2] If they don't know who Hi-Level are then find another dealer
pronto. Hi-Level are the biggest supplier of hard parts to the bike
industry.

--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

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Gyp

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Aug 18, 2010, 3:39:25 PM8/18/10
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Champ <ne...@champ.org

> Hayabusas. We'll be having a 'busa brake party when he gets back from
> hols. You could come and join us, but I guess you've got to get it
> sorted straight away.

Woo hop

Brokebrake Busa party!

It's almost enough to get me home early

Almost, but not quite
--
Gyp

SIRPip

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Aug 18, 2010, 4:01:46 PM8/18/10
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Krusty wrote:

> Lozzo wrote:

> > [2] If they don't know who Hi-Level are then find another dealer
> > pronto. Hi-Level are the biggest supplier of hard parts to the bike
> > industry.
>

> Surely brake seals are quite soft?

Aah, rubbery!

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SIRPip : B12

Ace

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Aug 18, 2010, 4:37:32 PM8/18/10
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:30:10 +0000 (UTC), "SIRPip"
<ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Ace wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:43 +0000 (UTC), "SIRPip"
>> <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Champ wrote:
>> >
>> >> <presses 'reset' button on brain>
>> >
>> > That's obviously accessible, these days. It's the slight
>> > depression, in which a sensitive finger can feel the imprseed and
>> > reversed letters "MGPO".
>>
>> Pahnd!
>
>That would be one point one eight euros from you, Rogers Major.

<checks xe.com>

Fuck me, sterling's cheap. We'll need to put together a shopping list
for our trip over next week.

zymurgy

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Aug 18, 2010, 4:43:12 PM8/18/10
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Why did you take a bike in with binding brakes ?

That's an automatic MOT fail. ;)

Paul.

zymurgy

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Aug 18, 2010, 4:50:16 PM8/18/10
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On 18 Aug, 20:39, Gyp <address...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Champ <n...@champ.org

>
> > Hayabusas.  We'll be having a 'busa brake party when he gets back from
> > hols.  You could come and join us, but I guess you've got to get it
> > sorted straight away.
>
> Woo hop
>
> Brokebrake Busa party!

Yebbut, he admitted he'd left it outside for over 6 months, unused.

Why would he think the calipers wouldn't be fucked ?

Paul.

Champ

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Aug 18, 2010, 5:28:23 PM8/18/10
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Why would they be any more fucked that if he'd used it, outside, for
six months?
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Champ
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Champ

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Aug 18, 2010, 5:29:21 PM8/18/10
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You're a smug cunt, aren't you :-)

He probably didn't realise they were binding. They'd have to be
binding quite a lot before you noticed on a Hayabusa.

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SIRPip

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Aug 19, 2010, 3:10:32 AM8/19/10
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Ace wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:30:10 +0000 (UTC), "SIRPip"
> <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ace wrote:

> >> Pahnd!
> >
> > That would be one point one eight euros from you, Rogers Major.
>
> <checks xe.com>
>
> Fuck me, sterling's cheap. We'll need to put together a shopping list
> for our trip over next week.

I exist to serve, obviously. As does TOG, who advised me not to get
Euros from the Post Office, but I did just because it's handy. Yeah, I
didn't pay commission, but I got a rate of 1.11. Not so handy - I'll
listen to TOG next time, especially as I had zero Euros to change back
on my return. Nicely judged, you might think, but not really: I was
struggling with the last of the coins, sweating a bit, at the peage
booth.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

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Aug 19, 2010, 8:24:47 AM8/19/10
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "SIRPip" <ginge...@gmail.com>
saying something like:

Wouldn't it?

Higgins

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Aug 19, 2010, 1:15:46 PM8/19/10
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SIRPip wrote:
> Ace wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:30:10 +0000 (UTC), "SIRPip"
>> <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ace wrote:
>
>>>> Pahnd!
>>> That would be one point one eight euros from you, Rogers Major.
>> <checks xe.com>
>>
>> Fuck me, sterling's cheap. We'll need to put together a shopping list
>> for our trip over next week.
>
> I exist to serve, obviously. As does TOG, who advised me not to get
> Euros from the Post Office, but I did just because it's handy. Yeah, I
> didn't pay commission, but I got a rate of 1.11.

I'd have given you 1.12 and, just for you, I'd have waived the commission.

Sean Hamerton

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Aug 19, 2010, 2:14:04 PM8/19/10
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On 18 Aug, 22:29, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:43:12 -0700 (PDT), zymurgy
>
> <zymu...@technologist.com> wrote:
> >On 18 Aug, 14:04, TD <topper.dog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Busa failed MOT due to front brake binding. That I don't mind. Dealer
> >> wants 222 large for the seal kits. That is, er, interesting. Oh, plus
> >> 3-4 hours labour. What are they made of, platinum?
>
> >> Insert rant about Tokico 6-pots here.
>
> >Why did you take a bike in with binding brakes ?
>
> >That's an automatic MOT fail. ;)
>
> You're a smug cunt, aren't you :-)
>
> He probably didn't realise they were binding.  They'd have to be
> binding quite a lot before you noticed on a Hayabusa.

It's a gradual change that you compensate for, see.

I found I didn't really notice the binding and got a bit of a shock at
having to buy new discs for my 750 SRAD after its first MOT with me.
Got some perfect nearly new discs for £62 the pair off eBay.

Now I know about The Tokico Problem I tend not to use the fronts much
when commuting and only really give 'em a good squeeze when pressing
on. TBH I should really get a V-twin, with all the engine braking I
do.

--
SeanH - '80 CB250 RSA | '01 Fazer 600 | '97 GSX-R 750 SRAD.

The Older Gentleman

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Aug 19, 2010, 2:28:42 PM8/19/10
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SIRPip <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:

Want some nice Chilean 100 peso coins? The euro-lookalikes? Plenty
cheapness....

SIRPip

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Aug 19, 2010, 3:19:48 PM8/19/10
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The Older Gentleman wrote:

> SIRPip <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I exist to serve, obviously. As does TOG, who advised me not to get
> > Euros from the Post Office, but I did just because it's handy.
> > Yeah, I didn't pay commission, but I got a rate of 1.11. Not so
> > handy - I'll listen to TOG next time, especially as I had zero
> > Euros to change back on my return. Nicely judged, you might think,
> > but not really: I was struggling with the last of the coins,
> > sweating a bit, at the peage booth.
>
> Want some nice Chilean 100 peso coins? The euro-lookalikes? Plenty
> cheapness....

Not with my luck, thanks. If I tried passing them I'd end up examining
the wall in a FrogPlodHouse very closely, I think.

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SIRPip

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Aug 19, 2010, 3:20:37 PM8/19/10
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Higgins wrote:

> SIRPip wrote:

> > I exist to serve, obviously. As does TOG, who advised me not to get
> > Euros from the Post Office, but I did just because it's handy.
> > Yeah, I didn't pay commission, but I got a rate of 1.11.
>
> I'd have given you 1.12 and, just for you, I'd have waived the
> commission.

Yer a gent, John. Waiving your inner Jock, I'm impressed ;-)

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SIRPip : B12

zymurgy

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Aug 19, 2010, 4:37:13 PM8/19/10
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On 18 Aug, 22:28, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:50:16 -0700 (PDT), zymurgy
>
> <zymu...@technologist.com> wrote:
> >On 18 Aug, 20:39, Gyp <address...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Champ <n...@champ.org
>
> >> > Hayabusas.  We'll be having a 'busa brake party when he gets back from
> >> > hols.  You could come and join us, but I guess you've got to get it
> >> > sorted straight away.
>
> >> Woo hop
>
> >> Brokebrake Busa party!
>
> >Yebbut, he admitted he'd left it outside for over 6 months, unused.
>
> >Why would he think the calipers wouldn't be fucked ?
>
> Why would they be any more fucked that if he'd used it, outside, for six months?

Hmm, with the pistons moving and going through their usual Cold/Hot
cycle.

I'd give them a better chance than some that have sat out in the damp
for the same period ..

Paul.

wessie

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Aug 19, 2010, 4:54:38 PM8/19/10
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"SIRPip" <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:xn0gy2a17...@news.eternal-september.org:

Peage booths take cards. Just don't use the car only lanes. As you
state, the PO cash exchange rate is crap at the counter. Yet, their
credit card which is a rebranded Bank of Ireland card, was giving me
1.19/1.20 a couple of weeks ago. Same rate with the Santander Zero card
at ATMs.

Mike Buckley

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Aug 19, 2010, 5:01:50 PM8/19/10
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In message <nvgo66tut05qbguik...@4ax.com>, Ace
<b.ro...@ifrance.com> writes

I was in Southport a couple of weeks ago[1] and took a wander down the
"second longest pier in Britain". There's an amusing penny arcade at the
end, where you have to use the old big pennies, the change machines give
you 10 for a quid. I thought that was ok-ish as most of the games were
easily value for 10p. Then I went to Wollaton Hall in Nottingham where
the gift shop are selling the same pennies for Ł1.50 each.

Sterling isn't that cheap after all :-)

[1} Yes I know, but just a stop over from staying in the lakes[2] and
littl'un loves beaches n stuff
[2] Coleridges old house, Greta Hall in Keswick - recommended


--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
XJ900S

Champ

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:19:44 AM8/20/10
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:40:29 +0000 (UTC), TD <topper...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>The good news is that I called around and found prices to be half what the
>dealer was asking. I called back and he admitted he'd made a mistake. So
>all's well and they'll get it sorted. 110 quid is certainly a lot nearer the
>mark of acceptability.

Oh yes - 110 quid for a set of seals and doing the work is fine. I'd
be happy to pay that if I was in a hirry, to be honest.

>I haven't been reading much the last year or so - is the 'busa doing it for
>you?

It still is.

You know, it's odd having two very different bikes (ok, ok, they're
both stupid fast) and switching between them. I rode the 'busa
recently after a few 100 miles on the 10R and it initially felt awful
- massively heavy, slow to respond, ponderous, lousy brakes. But then
I got into it, and all its great features came through, and it I loved
it.

Then I switched back to the 10R, and that felt awful - bone jarring
suspension, hair-trigger controls, uncomfortable, noisy, etc. But
then, of course, I got used to those things, and revealled in the
(frankly insane) combinations of power, weight and grip.
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Adie

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:35:15 AM8/20/10
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:01:50 +0100, Mike Buckley <Mi...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>I was in Southport a couple of weeks ago[1] and took a wander down the
>"second longest pier in Britain". There's an amusing penny arcade at the
>end, where you have to use the old big pennies, the change machines give
>you 10 for a quid. I thought that was ok-ish as most of the games were
>easily value for 10p. Then I went to Wollaton Hall in Nottingham where
>the gift shop are selling the same pennies for Ł1.50 each.
>
>Sterling isn't that cheap after all :-)
>
>[1} Yes I know, but just a stop over from staying in the lakes[2] and
>littl'un loves beaches n stuff

a couple of us are from there. I'll be going there tomorrow as my mum
has recently moved back there. Rossi's ice cream isn't the same as it
was though.

I believe SD was going there as part of the RBR to visit the pub on
the prom.
--
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ogden

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Aug 20, 2010, 5:21:59 AM8/20/10
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Champ wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:40:29 +0000 (UTC), TD <topper...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >The good news is that I called around and found prices to be half what the
> >dealer was asking. I called back and he admitted he'd made a mistake. So
> >all's well and they'll get it sorted. 110 quid is certainly a lot nearer the
> >mark of acceptability.
>
> Oh yes - 110 quid for a set of seals and doing the work is fine. I'd
> be happy to pay that if I was in a hirry, to be honest.
>
> >I haven't been reading much the last year or so - is the 'busa doing it for
> >you?
>
> It still is.
>
> You know, it's odd having two very different bikes (ok, ok, they're
> both stupid fast) and switching between them. I rode the 'busa
> recently after a few 100 miles on the 10R and it initially felt awful
> - massively heavy, slow to respond, ponderous, lousy brakes. But then
> I got into it, and all its great features came through, and it I loved
> it.
>
> Then I switched back to the 10R, and that felt awful - bone jarring
> suspension, hair-trigger controls, uncomfortable, noisy, etc. But
> then, of course, I got used to those things, and revealled in the
> (frankly insane) combinations of power, weight and grip.

Try switching from a supermoto to a gixer thou.

Total headfuck. Not least when you're trying to work out where your feet
are supposed to go.

--
ogden | gsxr 1000 | ktm duke 2

CT

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Aug 20, 2010, 5:51:53 AM8/20/10
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Mike Buckley wrote:

> [1} Yes I know, but just a stop over from staying in the lakes[2] and
> littl'un loves beaches n stuff
> [2] Coleridges old house, Greta Hall in Keswick - recommended

We're going to Keswick for two weeks on 03/09.

Got anything else to recommend?

--
Chris

Krusty

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Aug 20, 2010, 5:58:18 AM8/20/10
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Champ wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:40:29 +0000 (UTC), TD <topper...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> > The good news is that I called around and found prices to be half
> > what the dealer was asking. I called back and he admitted he'd
> > made a mistake. So all's well and they'll get it sorted. 110 quid
> > is certainly a lot nearer the mark of acceptability.
>
> Oh yes - 110 quid for a set of seals and doing the work is fine.

That would be more than fine if it did include doing the work - but it
don't.


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Krusty

Raptor 1000 MV 750 Senna Tiger 955i Tiger 885 Fantic Hiro 250

Hog

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Aug 20, 2010, 6:00:05 AM8/20/10
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Keswick, for two whole weeks!
<falls off perch>

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ogden

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Aug 20, 2010, 6:14:48 AM8/20/10
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He's from Hampshire and lives in Bracknell. Keswick for him will be like
a caveman visiting Tokyo.

CT

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Aug 20, 2010, 6:22:09 AM8/20/10
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ogden wrote:

> Hog wrote:
>
> > Keswick, for two whole weeks!
> > <falls off perch>
>
> He's from Hampshire and lives in Bracknell.

No, I don't!

> Keswick for him will be like a caveman visiting Tokyo.

Anywhere away from work works for me.

--
Chris

JackH

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On Aug 18, 2:13 pm, "Krusty" <dontwant...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

> TD wrote:
> > Busa failed MOT due to front brake binding. That I don't mind. Dealer
> > wants 222 large for the seal kits. That is, er, interesting. Oh, plus
> > 3-4 hours labour. What are they made of, platinum?
>
> <Krusty's recent mantra>
>
> Clean the grooves, check the seals for damage, & if there isn't any,
> grease them with rubber brake grease & reuse them.

'Rubber brake grease'

Not heard of that one before... <googles>

Ahhh... noted - got some calipers to rebuild soonish, so will get some
of that.

Cheers. :-)

--
JackH

Krusty

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Aug 20, 2010, 6:51:21 AM8/20/10
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JackH wrote:

Do so. One sachet will be enough for several calipers, & should keep
the dreaded corrosion at bay for a while.

SIRPip

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Aug 20, 2010, 7:15:45 AM8/20/10
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Krusty wrote:

Sachet? Poof.

Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and then
it can become an heirloom.

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Krusty

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Aug 20, 2010, 7:36:59 AM8/20/10
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SIRPip wrote:

Get with the times old man - JIT is where it's at.

SIRPip

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Aug 20, 2010, 8:05:37 AM8/20/10
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Krusty wrote:

> SIRPip wrote:

> > Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and
> > then it can become an heirloom.
>
> Get with the times old man - JIT is where it's at.

Yeah, until you need the product at 10pm on a Saturday, when you've got
a need for that vehicle on the Sunday. Or at five pm on Sunday, with a
trackday Monday.

I like to have stuff in stock.

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Krusty

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Aug 20, 2010, 8:19:07 AM8/20/10
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SIRPip wrote:

> Krusty wrote:
>
> > SIRPip wrote:
>
> > > Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and
> > > then it can become an heirloom.
> >
> > Get with the times old man - JIT is where it's at.
>
> Yeah, until you need the product at 10pm on a Saturday, when you've
> got a need for that vehicle on the Sunday. Or at five pm on Sunday,
> with a trackday Monday.

Thankfully I'm not /quite/ that disorganised.

Hog

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Aug 20, 2010, 8:23:12 AM8/20/10
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Am I alone in not liking the Lakes area very much. Ok for a walk, or a ride
through out of hours, but otherwise it's utterly packed with ramblers and
mouth breathers and is unbearably twee. It's populated by the sort of people
who wanted a 10mph ban on the water FFS.

And the weather makes Scotland look tropical.

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Champ

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:08:11 +0100, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:

>>> > 'Rubber brake grease'

>>Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and then
>>it can become an heirloom.

>I'm going to will my pot of copper grease to my son.

<glum>

Who shall I leave my tin of copper grease to?

Jim

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Aug 20, 2010, 9:11:57 AM8/20/10
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On 20/08/10 14:09, Ben wrote:
> Last couple of times I've been for a walk in the Lakes, I've covered
> 15-20 miles and only seen a couple of people. Like anywhere that
> involves "the great outdoors", you simply need to avoid the bits that
> are easy to get to.

Very ding.

We have the same thing in the New Forest. The dog walkers cover an area
about 500m around each car park, outside that it's basically empty.

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Hog

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Aug 20, 2010, 9:35:11 AM8/20/10
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Ben wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:23:12 +0100, "Hog"
> <sm91...@CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> CT wrote:
>>> ogden wrote:
>>>> Hog wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keswick, for two whole weeks!
>>>>> <falls off perch>
>>>>
>>>> He's from Hampshire and lives in Bracknell.
>>>
>>> No, I don't!
>>>
>>>> Keswick for him will be like a caveman visiting Tokyo.
>>>
>>> Anywhere away from work works for me.
>>
>> Am I alone in not liking the Lakes area very much. Ok for a walk, or
>> a ride through out of hours, but otherwise it's utterly packed with
>> ramblers
>
> Last couple of times I've been for a walk in the Lakes, I've covered
> 15-20 miles and only seen a couple of people. Like anywhere that
> involves "the great outdoors", you simply need to avoid the bits that
> are easy to get to.

As I alluded to.

I'd always go up the Scottish west coast by preference TBF.

--
Hog


Krusty

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Aug 20, 2010, 9:37:50 AM8/20/10
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Ben wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:23:12 +0100, "Hog"
> <sm91...@CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >

> > Am I alone in not liking the Lakes area very much. Ok for a walk,
> > or a ride through out of hours, but otherwise it's utterly packed
> > with ramblers
>

> Last couple of times I've been for a walk in the Lakes, I've covered
> 15-20 miles and only seen a couple of people. Like anywhere that
> involves "the great outdoors", you simply need to avoid the bits that
> are easy to get to.

There used to be loads of RUPPs around here where you'd only ever see
the occasional 4x4 or trailbike. They've been lost to the undergrowth
forever now thanks to the vehicle ban.

Meanwhile the Ramblers who instigated it continue to trudge up & down
the Ridgeway in their thousands, same as they always did, completely
oblivious to all the other trails they've destroyed.

Hog

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I would promote the re-introduction of big cats and bears now.

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Aug 20, 2010, 11:58:53 AM8/20/10
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Champ wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:08:11 +0100, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
> >>> > 'Rubber brake grease'
>
> > > Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and
> > > then it can become an heirloom.
>
> > I'm going to will my pot of copper grease to my son.
>
> <glum>
>
> Who shall I leave my tin of copper grease to?

Well, me of course. I shall use it on my hair.

--
SIRPip : B12

SIRPip

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Aug 20, 2010, 12:00:12 PM8/20/10
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Hog wrote:

> I would promote the re-introduction of big cats and bears now.

Be careful for what you wish.

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SIRPip : B12

SIRPip

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Aug 20, 2010, 12:06:57 PM8/20/10
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Krusty wrote:

> SIRPip wrote:
>
> > Krusty wrote:
> >
> > > SIRPip wrote:
> >
> > > > Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out
> > > > and then it can become an heirloom.
> > >
> > > Get with the times old man - JIT is where it's at.
> >
> > Yeah, until you need the product at 10pm on a Saturday, when you've
> > got a need for that vehicle on the Sunday. Or at five pm on Sunday,
> > with a trackday Monday.
>

> Thankfully I'm not quite that disorganised.

Yeah, right.

If I had a fiver for every time some organised bastard has said that to
me, four days before the event, I could have collected thousands of
oily fivers eight hours prior to kickoff.

--
SIRPip : B12

Hog

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Aug 20, 2010, 12:44:00 PM8/20/10
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SIRPip wrote:
> Hog wrote:
>
>> I would promote the re-introduction of big cats and bears now.
>
> Be careful for what you wish.

I was careful with that lower case b

--
Hog


Andy Bonwick

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Aug 20, 2010, 1:17:35 PM8/20/10
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:10:46 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:08:11 +0100, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> > 'Rubber brake grease'
>
>>>Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and then
>>>it can become an heirloom.
>
>>I'm going to will my pot of copper grease to my son.
>
><glum>
>
>Who shall I leave my tin of copper grease to?

I threw mine in the bin when I discovered that you can steal cans of
the spray on variety from work.

If you think back a couple of years to the team ukrm/team ixie
Donington barbeque we wasted a couple of cans spraying it into the
fire.

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wessie

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Aug 20, 2010, 2:01:50 PM8/20/10
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"CT" <m...@christrollen.co.uk> wrote in news:8d71hp...@mid.individual.net:

> Mike Buckley wrote:
>
>> [1} Yes I know, but just a stop over from staying in the lakes[2] and
>> littl'un loves beaches n stuff
>> [2] Coleridges old house, Greta Hall in Keswick - recommended
>
> We're going to Keswick for two weeks on 03/09.
>
> Got anything else to recommend?
>

http://www.thesamlinghotel.co.uk/fine_dining.asp?Page=gourmand_menu
then for the rest of the fortnight pie & chips from the Kingfisher
takeaway.

--
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

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Mark Olson

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Aug 20, 2010, 2:09:56 PM8/20/10
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davethedave wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:24:49 -0700, JackH wrote:
>
>>> Clean the grooves, check the seals for damage, & if there isn't any,
>>> grease them with rubber brake grease & reuse them.
>> 'Rubber brake grease'
>>
>> Not heard of that one before... <googles>
>>
>> Ahhh... noted - got some calipers to rebuild soonish, so will get some
>> of that.
>>
>> Cheers. :-)
>
> Silicon is great for rubber seals. I use it on the seal for my Ikelite
> camera housing.
>
> Silicon grease for Butyl rubber it wont make it swell or soften.

'ere, 'ave these, e e

JackH

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Aug 20, 2010, 2:39:04 PM8/20/10
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On Aug 20, 3:14 pm, davethedave <davedfos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:24:49 -0700, JackH wrote:
> >> Clean the grooves, check the seals for damage, & if there isn't any,
> >> grease them with rubber brake grease & reuse them.
>
> > 'Rubber brake grease'
>
> > Not heard of that one before... <googles>
>
> > Ahhh... noted - got some calipers to rebuild soonish, so will get some
> > of that.
>
> > Cheers. :-)
>
> Silicon is great for rubber seals.

Aye... I use it on seals etc when doing a spot of plumbing etc.

> I use it on the seal for my Ikelite
> camera housing.

<googles>

Nice - used it for scuba, I take it?

--
JackH

JackH

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Aug 20, 2010, 2:44:16 PM8/20/10
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On Aug 20, 12:15 pm, "SIRPip" <gingerbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sachet?  Poof.

> Get a tube, man.  Or better, a tin.  A tin should see you out and then
> it can become an heirloom.

Given my penchant for SOBs of late, I think maybe a tin is in order.

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JackH

SIRPip

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Aug 20, 2010, 3:16:21 PM8/20/10
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Hog wrote:

Oh, you were referring to Big cats. I see. Now.

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ogden

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Aug 20, 2010, 3:58:17 PM8/20/10
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Andy Bonwick wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:10:46 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:08:11 +0100, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>>> > 'Rubber brake grease'
> >
> >>>Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and then
> >>>it can become an heirloom.
> >
> >>I'm going to will my pot of copper grease to my son.
> >
> ><glum>
> >
> >Who shall I leave my tin of copper grease to?
>
> I threw mine in the bin when I discovered that you can steal cans of
> the spray on variety from work.

I've got a can of the spray stuff in the garage. I've found it's
generally great for making a mess but not so good for lubricating
anything smaller than a wardrobe.

--
ogden | gsxr 1000 | ktm duke 2

ogden

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Aug 20, 2010, 3:59:17 PM8/20/10
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Krusty wrote:
> Hog wrote:

>
> > Krusty wrote:
> > >
> > > There used to be loads of RUPPs around here where you'd only ever
> > > see the occasional 4x4 or trailbike. They've been lost to the
> > > undergrowth forever now thanks to the vehicle ban.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile the Ramblers who instigated it continue to trudge up &
> > > down the Ridgeway in their thousands, same as they always did,
> > > completely oblivious to all the other trails they've destroyed.
> >
> > I would promote the re-introduction of big cats and bears now.
>
> They've just been talking about the wild boar in the Forest of Dean on
> the news. Apparently attempts to control numbers have failed, so
> they're just gonna leave 'em to it. Until the first child attack of
> course, at which point they'll napalm the place.

Nah, they'll just encourage some kind of turf war between the boar and
the foxes and let them sort each other out.

Now, when a kid on a bicycle gets caught in the crossfire, *that's* when
they'll napalm the forest.n

wessie

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:02:55 PM8/20/10
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"Krusty" <dontw...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:i4mfia$9co$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

>
> They've just been talking about the wild boar in the Forest of Dean on
> the news. Apparently attempts to control numbers have failed, so
> they're just gonna leave 'em to it. Until the first child attack of
> course, at which point they'll napalm the place.
>

The need to reintroduce the boars' natural predator. What could go wrong
with a pack of wolves wandering around Puzzlewood?

ogden

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:12:45 PM8/20/10
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wessie wrote:
> "Krusty" <dontw...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:i4mfia$9co$1
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
> >
> > They've just been talking about the wild boar in the Forest of Dean on
> > the news. Apparently attempts to control numbers have failed, so
> > they're just gonna leave 'em to it. Until the first child attack of
> > course, at which point they'll napalm the place.
> >
> The need to reintroduce the boars' natural predator.

Gauls?

SIRPip

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:17:59 PM8/20/10
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ogden wrote:

+1

I've even sunk so low as to spray a bit in the lid and use a brush to
apply it where it's needed.

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SIRPip : B12

Lozzo

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:27:26 PM8/20/10
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SIRPip wrote:

> Krusty wrote:
>
> > JackH wrote:


> >
> > > On Aug 18, 2:13 pm, "Krusty" <dontwant...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > > Clean the grooves, check the seals for damage, & if there isn't
> > > > any, grease them with rubber brake grease & reuse them.
> > >
> > > 'Rubber brake grease'
> > >
> > > Not heard of that one before... <googles>
> > >
> > > Ahhh... noted - got some calipers to rebuild soonish, so will get
> > > some of that.
> >

> > Do so. One sachet will be enough for several calipers, & should keep
> > the dreaded corrosion at bay for a while.
>
> Sachet? Poof.


>
> Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and then
> it can become an heirloom.

I have a tub, had it 3 years and barely made a dent in the contents
despite rebuilding about 25 sets of calipers.

--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

Lozzo

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:28:14 PM8/20/10
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Krusty wrote:

> SIRPip wrote:

> > Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and
> > then it can become an heirloom.
>

> Get with the times old man - JIT is where it's at.

You try finding Red Rubber Grease anywhere locally - near impossible.

SIRPip

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:30:56 PM8/20/10
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Lozzo wrote:

> Krusty wrote:
>
> > SIRPip wrote:
>
> > > Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and
> > > then it can become an heirloom.
> >
> > Get with the times old man - JIT is where it's at.
>
> You try finding Red Rubber Grease anywhere locally - near impossible.

Top Gear, Flitwick. Four doors down from GLF.

Sachets and tubes on the shelf, occasionally a tin - but they'll get
you a tin in an hour if you ask 'em.

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platypus

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:37:56 PM8/20/10
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On 20 Aug, 16:27, boots <bo...@despammed.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:23:12 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Hog says:
>
>
>
> >CT wrote:
> >> ogden wrote:
> >>> Hog wrote:
>
> >>>> Keswick, for two whole weeks!
> >>>> <falls off perch>
>
> >>> He's from Hampshire and lives in Bracknell.
>
> >> No, I don't!
>
> >>> Keswick for him will be like a caveman visiting Tokyo.
>
> >> Anywhere away from work works for me.
>
> >Am I alone in not liking the Lakes area very much. Ok for a walk, or a ride
> >through out of hours, but otherwise it's utterly packed with ramblers and
> >mouth breathers and is unbearably twee. It's populated by the sort of people
> >who wanted a 10mph ban on the water FFS.
>
> No I am not over keen. Ended up visiting a few times as the ex was for
> some reason fond of the place. I just found it to be a bit dull.

I quite like the bumpy bits. I'll have to find an opportunity to try
the place unaccompanied.

Lozzo

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:41:54 PM8/20/10
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SIRPip wrote:

> Lozzo wrote:

> > You try finding Red Rubber Grease anywhere locally - near
> > impossible.
>
> Top Gear, Flitwick. Four doors down from GLF.
>
> Sachets and tubes on the shelf, occasionally a tin - but they'll get
> you a tin in an hour if you ask 'em.

The bastards never told me that when I fucking asked them for some 3
years ago. I got it next day from the MG Owners Club via ebay

SIRPip

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:47:26 PM8/20/10
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Lozzo wrote:

> SIRPip wrote:
>
> > Lozzo wrote:
>
> > > You try finding Red Rubber Grease anywhere locally - near
> > > impossible.
> >
> > Top Gear, Flitwick. Four doors down from GLF.
> >
> > Sachets and tubes on the shelf, occasionally a tin - but they'll get
> > you a tin in an hour if you ask 'em.
>
> The bastards never told me that when I fucking asked them for some 3
> years ago. I got it next day from the MG Owners Club via ebay

It may have been the result of having a word with them after your
experience. They always did have, which is why I sent you up there.
They had tubes the other day, 'cos I saw a hairy mechanic buy one
instead of three sachets.

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Colin Irvine

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Aug 20, 2010, 4:58:17 PM8/20/10
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:17:35 +0100, Andy Bonwick squeezed out the
following:

>On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:10:46 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:08:11 +0100, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>> > 'Rubber brake grease'
>>
>>>>Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and then
>>>>it can become an heirloom.
>>
>>>I'm going to will my pot of copper grease to my son.
>>
>><glum>
>>
>>Who shall I leave my tin of copper grease to?
>
>I threw mine in the bin when I discovered that you can steal cans of
>the spray on variety from work.

Tut tut. My tube of Copaslip is still going strong after 30 years at
least.

--
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

Champ

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Aug 20, 2010, 5:06:57 PM8/20/10
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You think you're going to outlive me?
--
Champ
We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Champ

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Aug 20, 2010, 5:11:05 PM8/20/10
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:23:12 +0100, "Hog"
<sm91...@CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:

<Lakes District>

>It's populated by the sort of people
>who wanted a 10mph ban on the water FFS.

Mostly incomers. My mate Pat, who is a proper local, detests all the
'ban speedboats' stuff with a passion.

Mind you, being 5 times British Hill Climb Champion, he may not quite
be typical...

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Aug 20, 2010, 6:25:31 PM8/20/10
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Champ wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:58:53 +0000 (UTC), "SIRPip"
> <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Champ wrote:

> >> Who shall I leave my tin of copper grease to?
>
> > Well, me of course. I shall use it on my hair.
>
> You think you're going to outlive me?

I see no reason why not. You live a much more abrasive lifestyle than
I do. The fact that you're skinny, fit and healthy doesn't outweigh my
drinking, smoking and boderline obese life of leisure, I'm afraid.

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SIRPip : B12

Champ

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Aug 20, 2010, 7:26:06 PM8/20/10
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:25:31 +0000 (UTC), "SIRPip"
<ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:58:53 +0000 (UTC), "SIRPip"
>> <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Champ wrote:
>
>> >> Who shall I leave my tin of copper grease to?
>>
>> > Well, me of course. I shall use it on my hair.
>>
>> You think you're going to outlive me?

>I see no reason why not. You live a much more abrasive lifestyle than
>I do. The fact that you're skinny, fit and healthy doesn't outweigh my
>drinking, smoking and boderline obese life of leisure, I'm afraid.

Hmmm. If I don't die prematurely, I'll definitely out-live you :-)

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Aug 20, 2010, 9:34:37 PM8/20/10
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> saying
something like:

>>I'm going to will my pot of copper grease to my son.
>
><glum>
>

>Who shall I leave my tin of copper grease to?

The world.
Let everybody take a fingerful and hold it aloft.

Mike Buckley

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Aug 21, 2010, 4:58:22 AM8/21/10
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In message <ehvs66dmbmgt3qq4h...@4ax.com>, Ben
<b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> writes

>On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:15:45 +0000 (UTC), "SIRPip"
><ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Krusty wrote:
>>
>>> JackH wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Aug 18, 2:13 pm, "Krusty" <dontwant...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> > > Clean the grooves, check the seals for damage, & if there isn't
>>> > > any, grease them with rubber brake grease & reuse them.
>>> >
>>> > 'Rubber brake grease'
>>> >
>>> > Not heard of that one before... <googles>
>>> >
>>> > Ahhh... noted - got some calipers to rebuild soonish, so will get
>>> > some of that.
>>>
>>> Do so. One sachet will be enough for several calipers, & should keep
>>> the dreaded corrosion at bay for a while.
>>
>>Sachet? Poof.
>>
>>Get a tube, man. Or better, a tin. A tin should see you out and then
>>it can become an heirloom.
>
>I'm going to will my pot of copper grease to my son.

Ditto, bought mine in around 1989 and it's still full. When it gets used
I just take bits off the inside of the lid.

--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
XJ900S

Mike Buckley

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Aug 21, 2010, 5:03:30 AM8/21/10
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In message <8d71hp...@mid.individual.net>, CT <m...@christrollen.co.uk>
writes

>Mike Buckley wrote:
>
>> [1} Yes I know, but just a stop over from staying in the lakes[2] and
>> littl'un loves beaches n stuff
>> [2] Coleridges old house, Greta Hall in Keswick - recommended
>
>We're going to Keswick for two weeks on 03/09.
>
>Got anything else to recommend?
>

Ummmm Keswick itself is nice enough and you can walk down to the lake
and get a cruise around it. I'd avoid Bowness, we drove through it to
get to Keswick and it was absolutely heaving, although it might be a bit
quieter by then. Lakeside and Haverthwaite railway was ok, aquarium at
the lakeside end is worth a look.

Other than that there's lots of walking to be done.

We were only there for 3 days and it rained each day so we just mooched
around, boy wasn't very well so that curtailed anything too exciting.

Colin Irvine

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Aug 21, 2010, 5:20:36 AM8/21/10
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On 20 Aug 2010 09:51:53 GMT, CT squeezed out the following:

>Mike Buckley wrote:
>
>> [1} Yes I know, but just a stop over from staying in the lakes[2] and
>> littl'un loves beaches n stuff
>> [2] Coleridges old house, Greta Hall in Keswick - recommended
>
>We're going to Keswick for two weeks on 03/09.
>
>Got anything else to recommend?

Some nice roads if you're on the bike. If not, sit in your car in the
queue to a fell and go walking.

Andy Bonwick

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Aug 21, 2010, 7:27:41 AM8/21/10
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:55:22 +0000 (UTC), "Krusty"
<dontw...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

snip>

>They've just been talking about the wild boar in the Forest of Dean on
>the news. Apparently attempts to control numbers have failed, so
>they're just gonna leave 'em to it. Until the first child attack of
>course, at which point they'll napalm the place.

I wonder if it's possible to fake a wild boar attack and hasten the
demise if the Forest?

Andy Bonwick

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Aug 21, 2010, 7:30:31 AM8/21/10
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:03:30 +0100, Mike Buckley <Mi...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>In message <8d71hp...@mid.individual.net>, CT <m...@christrollen.co.uk>
>writes
>>Mike Buckley wrote:
>>
>>> [1} Yes I know, but just a stop over from staying in the lakes[2] and
>>> littl'un loves beaches n stuff
>>> [2] Coleridges old house, Greta Hall in Keswick - recommended
>>
>>We're going to Keswick for two weeks on 03/09.
>>
>>Got anything else to recommend?
>>
>
>Ummmm Keswick itself is nice enough and you can walk down to the lake
>and get a cruise around it. I'd avoid Bowness, we drove through it to
>get to Keswick and it was absolutely heaving, although it might be a bit
>quieter by then. Lakeside and Haverthwaite railway was ok, aquarium at
>the lakeside end is worth a look.
>

Bowness is always heaving, even on a rainy afternoon in November it's
rammed with tourists getting ripped off in the outdoor shops.

You only need to drive 10 miles out of there to find some really nice
places so it's not all bad.

Andy Bonwick

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Aug 21, 2010, 7:34:09 AM8/21/10
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:24:59 +0000 (UTC), TD <topper...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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>
>They've had it in for three days now, knowing full well that I'm meant to be
>on the midday ferry tomorrow. I call at 5:15 today - "Er, it's not ready."
>
>Right. Fucking cunts. They claim it will be ready at 9:30 tomorrow morning,
>but I'm going to have to book the ferry much later as I need time to sort the
>luggage etc. It had better be discount city, I'm not being funny but it's
>fucked up the start of my holiday.

Have you considered the possibility that leaving it until only a
couple of days before your holiday might have been the real reason for
the start of your holiday being fucked up?

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