OT: Little Bruvver is in disgrace
TOG@Toil
(He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
ogden
Your brother's a fucking idiot.
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JB
"TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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I amazed that he didn't know what was going to happen. I'll be he'll have
'issues' getting into the US from now on too, even if he was only screwing
around .
JB
Champ
>TOG@Toil wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>>
>> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
>Your brother's a fucking idiot.
Hmm. My sympathies lie with Murray Minor. The whole security
paraphaneila is about keeping us scared and in our place, not making
us safer. I can't see how the statement "Are you now sure that they
don't contain a bomb?" could possibly be intepreted as any sort of
threat.
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Ace
>On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:49:10 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
>>TOG@Toil wrote:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>>>
>>> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
>
>>Your brother's a fucking idiot.
>
>Hmm. My sympathies lie with Murray Minor. The whole security
>paraphaneila is about keeping us scared and in our place, not making
>us safer. I can't see how the statement "Are you now sure that they
>don't contain a bomb?" could possibly be intepreted as any sort of
>threat.
The rights and wrongs of it are one thing. Being an idiot is something
quite different.
So while I'd agree that the whole thing was a farce and completely
unjustified, I still wouldn't sympathise with the vitim, who really,
_really_ should have had more sense than that.
Champ
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>>>>
>>>> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
>>
>>>Your brother's a fucking idiot.
>>Hmm. My sympathies lie with Murray Minor. The whole security
>>paraphaneila is about keeping us scared and in our place, not making
>>us safer. I can't see how the statement "Are you now sure that they
>>don't contain a bomb?" could possibly be intepreted as any sort of
>>threat.
>The rights and wrongs of it are one thing. Being an idiot is something
>quite different.
Quite so. I almost added "he might still be an idiot" as an addendum
to my post.
>So while I'd agree that the whole thing was a farce and completely
>unjustified, I still wouldn't sympathise with the vitim, who really,
>_really_ should have had more sense than that.
Yersh. My sympathies still lie with him, because I personally hate
kow-towing to authority myself.
ogden
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:21:09 +0200, Ace <b.ro...@ifrance.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
> >>>>
> >>>> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
> >>
> >>>Your brother's a fucking idiot.
>
> >>Hmm. My sympathies lie with Murray Minor. The whole security
> >>paraphaneila is about keeping us scared and in our place, not making
> >>us safer. I can't see how the statement "Are you now sure that they
> >>don't contain a bomb?" could possibly be intepreted as any sort of
> >>threat.
>
> >The rights and wrongs of it are one thing. Being an idiot is something
> >quite different.
>
> Quite so. I almost added "he might still be an idiot" as an addendum
> to my post.
>
> >So while I'd agree that the whole thing was a farce and completely
> >unjustified, I still wouldn't sympathise with the vitim, who really,
> >_really_ should have had more sense than that.
>
> Yersh. My sympathies still lie with him, because I personally hate
> kow-towing to authority myself.
There's a difference between not kow-towing and verbally sticking two
fingers up in a situation where you know the only person who's going to
be genuinely inconvenienced is yourself.
Making a stand is fine, admirable even, if you're in a position to make
a difference. Making a "joke" (oh, my sides!) about a bomb at airport
security isn't making a stand. It's being a fucking idiot.
Mark Olson
+1
First rule of airports. Don't ever say bomb. Simple as
that. What he did was stupid and not clever at all.
TOG@Toil
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:49:10 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> >TOG@Toil wrote:
> >>http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>
> >> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
> >Your brother's a fucking idiot.
>
> Hmm. My sympathies lie with Murray Minor. The whole security
> paraphaneila is about keeping us scared and in our place, not making
> us safer. I can't see how the statement "Are you now sure that they
> don't contain a bomb?" could possibly be intepreted as any sort of
> threat.
>
what he said, twice, and then saying: "Right. You've said 'Jehovah',
sorry, 'bomb', three times! Time to call in Plod" That smacks terribly
of handing someone, say, a pack of drugs and then once you've got
their fingerprints on it, dropping it in an evidence bag. Utterly
outrageous.
Oh yes, he was a silly bugger and admitted it, but what the piece has
thrown up is how the so-called security realy is nothing of the sort
(read Schneir's Crypto-Gram newsletter for lots more on this).
There's an interesting bit that was edited out of the final piece.
They started asking why, if he'd visited Ethiopia and Syria, why he
didn't have a visa in his passport for these countries, and he replied
that the visas were in his second (also UK) passport. And that it is
quite legal to have two passports. Which it is.
I wish he'd added that he (we) had also lived in Iran and Libya...
prawn
>
> First rule of airports. Don't ever say bomb. Simple as
> that. What he did was stupid and not clever at all.
Nearly. Being something of a UK Border Arsehole magnet, I treat it like
being a witness in court. Answer any questions without expanding on
what has been asked, suck it up and move on.
--
Leviticus 11:10
Jeremy
@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk says...
>
> On 16 July, 11:14, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:49:10 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> > >TOG@Toil wrote:
> > >>http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
> >
> > >> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
What's his occupation?
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jeremy
K1200S
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember "TOG@Toil"
<totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> saying something like:
>http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>
>(He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
They really are fucking twats.
TOG@Toil
> In article <033786b8-fd91-4eb7-b7f4-401ae1173eb2
>
>
>
> > On 16 July, 11:14, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:49:10 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> > > >TOG@Toil wrote:
> > > >>http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>
> > > >> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
>
> What's his occupation?
Plays with money.
doetnietcomputeren
>>>> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
>>> Your brother's a fucking idiot.
>>
>> Hmm. My sympathies lie with Murray Minor. The whole security
>> paraphaneila is about keeping us scared and in our place, not making
>> us safer. I can't see how the statement "Are you now sure that they
>> don't contain a bomb?" could possibly be intepreted as any sort of
>> threat.
>>
> I think the key factor is the Happe character asking him to repeat
> what he said, twice, and then saying: "Right. You've said 'Jehovah',
> sorry, 'bomb', three times! Time to call in Plod" That smacks terribly
> of handing someone, say, a pack of drugs and then once you've got
> their fingerprints on it, dropping it in an evidence bag. Utterly
> outrageous.
What bruvver should have said, was "I made a bad taste joke and I won't
do it again'. That was what Happe was hoping for.
The fact that Bruv continued to repeat himself, when in fact he had an
opportunity to restract, is not Happe's fault.
--
Dnc
TOG@Toil
Veggie Dave
>In the situation described the security people have no choices. Their
>instructions are if someone mentions anything like carrying a bomb
>even facetiously they give them a chance to retract the statement.
>Anything other than a retraction they *have* to call the police.
Rather than telling the person to repeat their statement three times? It
would seem minor Murrey, while not saying the brightest thing he could
have in the situation, was then tricked into not retracting his
statement.
Some airport security people are really good but I have to admit to
having met a couple of total cunts in my time, too. Thankfully they're
in the minority in my experience but it would be nice if there was some
sort of obvious complaints procedure that had some sort of genuine power
to deal with the arseholes.
--
Veggie Dave
http://www.iq18films.co.uk
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim
that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine
TOG@Toil
> boots <bo...@despammed.com> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>
> >In the situation described the security people have no choices. Their
> >instructions are if someone mentions anything like carrying a bomb
> >even facetiously they give them a chance to retract the statement.
> >Anything other than a retraction they *have* to call the police.
>
> Rather than telling the person to repeat their statement three times? It
> would seem minor Murrey, while not saying the brightest thing he could
> have in the situation, was then tricked into not retracting his
> statement.
>
> Some airport security people are really good but I have to admit to
> having met a couple of total cunts in my time, too. Thankfully they're
> in the minority in my experience but it would be nice if there was some
> sort of obvious complaints procedure that had some sort of genuine power
> to deal with the arseholes.
>
suggests that they reached much the same conclusion.
Veggie Dave
masterpiece:
>I think the behaviour of the police, as detailed in the article,
>suggests that they reached much the same conclusion.
That's certainly how it read.
Is he taking it any further?
ogden
Regardless, there's a really easy to avoid the arseholes - don't use the
B word at airport security. It's not as if there haven't been countless
stories in the press in the past about people getting roasted for poorly
timed stabs at humour.
doetnietcomputeren
>>> I think the key factor is the Happe character asking him to repeat
>>> what he said, twice, and then saying: "Right. You've said 'Jehovah',
>>> sorry, 'bomb', three times! Time to call in Plod" That smacks terribly
>>> of handing someone, say, a pack of drugs and then once you've got
>>> their fingerprints on it, dropping it in an evidence bag. Utterly
>>> outrageous.
>>
>> What bruvver should have said, was "I made a bad taste joke and I won't
>> do it again'. That was what Happe was hoping for.
>>
>> The fact that Bruv continued to repeat himself, when in fact he had an
>> opportunity to restract, is not Happe's fault.
>>
> Wrong interpretation.
For sure.
On your brother's part.
--
Dnc
Champ
>> Yersh. My sympathies still lie with him, because I personally hate
>> kow-towing to authority myself.
>Making a stand is fine, admirable even, if you're in a position to make
>a difference. Making a "joke" (oh, my sides!) about a bomb at airport
>security isn't making a stand. It's being a fucking idiot.
Indeed, and if he had in fact "made a joke about a bomb", I wouldn't
have much sympathy for him. But he didn't do that. At worst he made
a sarcastic remark.
Veggie Dave
>Regardless, there's a really easy to avoid the arseholes - don't use the
>B word at airport security. It's not as if there haven't been countless
>stories in the press in the past about people getting roasted for poorly
>timed stabs at humour.
To be fair, though, he didn't make a bomb threat or a joke that could be
misinterpreted by any intelligent person as a bomb threat.
It was a situation that, even after his initial comment, simply should
never have been allowed to escalate into the ridiculous farce that it
became.
Champ
<doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think the key factor is the Happe character asking him to repeat
>> what he said, twice, and then saying: "Right. You've said 'Jehovah',
>> sorry, 'bomb', three times! Time to call in Plod" That smacks terribly
>> of handing someone, say, a pack of drugs and then once you've got
>> their fingerprints on it, dropping it in an evidence bag. Utterly
>> outrageous.
>What bruvver should have said, was "I made a bad taste joke and I won't
>do it again'. That was what Happe was hoping for.
>The fact that Bruv continued to repeat himself, when in fact he had an
>opportunity to restract, is not Happe's fault.
eh? That's not my interpretation at all. Happe didn't offer him a
chance to retract, he asked him to repeat himself. Maybe I'm too
literal (as my gf often says) but, if I'd been asked to repeat myself,
I'd probably have repeated myself. I wouldn't have thought "Oh, what
he really means is 'would you like to retract what you just said?'".
ogden
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:32:24 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> >> Yersh. My sympathies still lie with him, because I personally hate
> >> kow-towing to authority myself.
>
> >Making a stand is fine, admirable even, if you're in a position to make
> >a difference. Making a "joke" (oh, my sides!) about a bomb at airport
> >security isn't making a stand. It's being a fucking idiot.
>
> Indeed, and if he had in fact "made a joke about a bomb", I wouldn't
> have much sympathy for him. But he didn't do that. At worst he made
> a sarcastic remark.
Regardless of how you interpret the nuance, he used the magic word.
You might see it as a prime example of how we bend to every whim of the
authorities, I see it as one word you just don't use at an airport if
you want to spend as little time as possible getting from the checkin
desks to the departure lounge.
Saying "bomb" at airport security is about as funny, and as clever, as
sticking a caricature of Mohammed (PBUH, etc) on the door of a mosque.
Just because you're capable of doing something, and it's no skin off
your nose, doesn't mean it's a clever thing to do.
TOG@Toil
wrote:
had been asked to do that, we'd do the same, so there could be no
misunderstanding. And then this twonk played the old switcheroo.
Grimly Curmudgeon
<doesnot...@gmail.com> saying something like:
>What bruvver should have said, was "I made a bad taste joke and I won't
>do it again'. That was what Happe was hoping for.
Was it Fucke.
Happe is a total cunt.
ogden
> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
> >Regardless, there's a really easy to avoid the arseholes - don't use the
> >B word at airport security. It's not as if there haven't been countless
> >stories in the press in the past about people getting roasted for poorly
> >timed stabs at humour.
>
> To be fair, though, he didn't make a bomb threat or a joke that could be
> misinterpreted by any intelligent person as a bomb threat.
It doesn't matter. It's the magic word. Everyone with half a brain knows
you don't use it at airport security because there's a chance it will be
needlessly escalated into a ridiculous farce. Just call it part of our
modern social mores and move on.
doetnietcomputeren
>>> I think the key factor is the Happe character asking him to repeat
>>> what he said, twice, and then saying: "Right. You've said 'Jehovah',
>>> sorry, 'bomb', three times! Time to call in Plod" That smacks terribly
>>> of handing someone, say, a pack of drugs and then once you've got
>>> their fingerprints on it, dropping it in an evidence bag. Utterly
>>> outrageous.
>
>> What bruvver should have said, was "I made a bad taste joke and I won't
>> do it again'. That was what Happe was hoping for.
>
>> The fact that Bruv continued to repeat himself, when in fact he had an
>> opportunity to restract, is not Happe's fault.
>
> eh? That's not my interpretation at all. Happe didn't offer him a
> chance to retract, he asked him to repeat himself. Maybe I'm too
> literal (as my gf often says) but, if I'd been asked to repeat myself,
> I'd probably have repeated myself. I wouldn't have thought "Oh, what
> he really means is 'would you like to retract what you just said?'".
I don't disagree that perhaps the wrong question was asked - although I
suspect that it's a set script they have to go through when
encountering such situations - however, as mentioned by Ogden, saying
that sort of word once, let alone three times in earshot of security is
somewhat asking for trouble, even thought I appreciate that it
shouldn't be.
--
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<5bd1ceb4-cdb1-4310...@b35g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
"TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of
wisdom
At that point it might have been interesting to turn the question round
and ask, "what am I supposed to have said?"
Presumably bombe desserts can never feature on the menu at airport
restaurants these days.
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Champ
>Champ wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:32:24 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>>
>> >> Yersh. My sympathies still lie with him, because I personally hate
>> >> kow-towing to authority myself.
>>
>> >Making a stand is fine, admirable even, if you're in a position to make
>> >a difference. Making a "joke" (oh, my sides!) about a bomb at airport
>> >security isn't making a stand. It's being a fucking idiot.
>>
>> Indeed, and if he had in fact "made a joke about a bomb", I wouldn't
>> have much sympathy for him. But he didn't do that. At worst he made
>> a sarcastic remark.
>Regardless of how you interpret the nuance, he used the magic word.
How about if I wear this?
http://1ac1.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/the-hundreds-brooklyn-projects-pasadena-adam-bomb-tshirt-2.jpg?w=499&h=451
Or "sign" like this:
http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/BOMB
What then?
Vass
"Mark Olson" <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote in message
news:hYWdnZ-XPMCdq93R...@posted.visi...
> First rule of airports. Don't ever say bomb. Simple as
> that. What he did was stupid and not clever at all.
>
>
Coming back from Rhodes last year, the security guard joked with my daughter
"have you a bomb" as he handed her case
one rule for one......
--
Vass
JB
"Champ" <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
news:rkm04619qhukmm970...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:44:52 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
>>Champ wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:32:24 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Yersh. My sympathies still lie with him, because I personally hate
>>> >> kow-towing to authority myself.
>>>
>>> >Making a stand is fine, admirable even, if you're in a position to make
>>> >a difference. Making a "joke" (oh, my sides!) about a bomb at airport
>>> >security isn't making a stand. It's being a fucking idiot.
>>>
>>> Indeed, and if he had in fact "made a joke about a bomb", I wouldn't
>>> have much sympathy for him. But he didn't do that. At worst he made
>>> a sarcastic remark.
>
>>Regardless of how you interpret the nuance, he used the magic word.
>
> How about if I wear this?
> http://1ac1.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/the-hundreds-brooklyn-projects-pasadena-adam-bomb-tshirt-2.jpg?w=499&h=451
>
> Or "sign" like this:
> http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/BOMB
>
No Flying for you that day, closely followed by the old Marigold-encased
fingers up the arse method of sorting out a comedian passenger.
JB
ogden
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:44:52 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> >Champ wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:32:24 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Yersh. My sympathies still lie with him, because I personally hate
> >> >> kow-towing to authority myself.
> >>
> >> >Making a stand is fine, admirable even, if you're in a position to make
> >> >a difference. Making a "joke" (oh, my sides!) about a bomb at airport
> >> >security isn't making a stand. It's being a fucking idiot.
> >>
> >> Indeed, and if he had in fact "made a joke about a bomb", I wouldn't
> >> have much sympathy for him. But he didn't do that. At worst he made
> >> a sarcastic remark.
>
> >Regardless of how you interpret the nuance, he used the magic word.
>
> How about if I wear this?
> http://1ac1.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/the-hundreds-brooklyn-projects-pasadena-adam-bomb-tshirt-2.jpg?w=499&h=451
>
> Or "sign" like this:
> http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/BOMB
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/02/transformers_t_shirt/
Frankly he should have been shot on sight for wearing a fucking
transformers tshirt at the age of 30.
Ace
On a recent-ish trip to the US, one 'friendly' immigration agent asked
me what was my business there, and I answered that I worked in the
pharmaceuticl industry and was there for some design meetings. He
then, jokingly, asked if that made me a drugs dealer. I laughed but
made absolutely sure I didn't say 'yes', just in case his joke wasn't
as innocent as it seemed. One has to be very careful, and joking
around like Murray junior did is just asking for trouble.
Also recently, I was returning via LHR and set off the scanner (can't
remember why) so when frisked they noticed I was wearing a back
support, and asked me to take it off. I, tired and in pain, said look,
it's only thin, you can see it, why do I need to get it scanned? The
lady then called someone else over to advise, and I started getting a
bit shirty, then decided that after all I could probably take it off
for a few seconds without collapsing in pain rather than cause any
more trouble. I apologised for getting shirty with them, citing pain
and tiredness, and that I knew they were just doing their job, and we
all continued happy. But I can see how easy it could be to let it
escalate as Murray must have done. Thankfully I'm not as stupid as he.
vulgarandmischevious
Damn right he's in disgrace. The Daily Mail, ffs. You're well within
your rights to never speak to the cunt again.
CT
OK - try the Spectator:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/all/6142923/my-gatwick-hell.thtml
--
Chris
Champ
<The magic word "bomb">
>> >Regardless of how you interpret the nuance, he used the magic word.
>>
>> How about if I wear this?
>> http://1ac1.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/the-hundreds-brooklyn-projects-pasadena-adam-bomb-tshirt-2.jpg?w=499&h=451
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/02/transformers_t_shirt/
>
>Frankly he should have been shot on sight for wearing a fucking
>transformers tshirt at the age of 30.
"A spokesman for Heathrow operator BAA offered: "If a T-shirt had a
rude word or a bomb on it for example, a passenger may be asked to
remove it"
<head in hands>
Champ
heh
Hog
> "TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote the following
> literary masterpiece:
>> I think the behaviour of the police, as detailed in the article,
>> suggests that they reached much the same conclusion.
>
> That's certainly how it read.
>
> Is he taking it any further?
I'm with Champ on this one. The system is pretty much ok but is missing one
crucial element. A requirement, an SLA even, for the operatives to treat
the public with respect and deference and to be accountable for their
actions. On the simple threat of losing their job.
Tog's brother should know better but the Ops response is unacceptable and
wasted police and other security services time. He should be reprimanded
IMHO.
--
Hog
CT
> "A spokesman for Heathrow operator BAA offered: "If a T-shirt had a
> rude word or a bomb on it for example, a passenger may be asked to
> remove it"
>
> <head in hands>
The War On Terror {tm} has obviously already been lost.
"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it
ceases to exist."
--
Chris
Thomas
> Champ wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:44:52 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> > >Champ wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:32:24 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> > >> >> Yersh. My sympathies still lie with him, because I personally hate
> > >> >> kow-towing to authority myself.
>
> > >> >Making a stand is fine, admirable even, if you're in a position to make
> > >> >a difference. Making a "joke" (oh, my sides!) about a bomb at airport
> > >> >security isn't making a stand. It's being a fucking idiot.
>
> > >> Indeed, and if he had in fact "made a joke about a bomb", I wouldn't
> > >> have much sympathy for him. But he didn't do that. At worst he made
> > >> a sarcastic remark.
>
> > >Regardless of how you interpret the nuance, he used the magic word.
>
> > How about if I wear this?
>
> > Or "sign" like this:
> >http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/BOMB
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/02/transformers_t_shirt/
>
> Frankly he should have been shot on sight for wearing a fucking
> transformers tshirt at the age of 30.
But, but, BUT... It's not a picture of a gun! No gun in the world
looks like that. It might also be a picture of a pen, or a spray paint
contraption, or a welding torch. It's some artist's fantasy depiction
of who knows what, but it ain't a picture of a real object.
Mark Olson
> But, but, BUT... It's not a picture of a gun! No gun in the world
> looks like that. It might also be a picture of a pen, or a spray paint
> contraption, or a welding torch. It's some artist's fantasy depiction
> of who knows what, but it ain't a picture of a real object.
Seen on a T-shirt at a family gathering:
http://conservapedia.com/images/7/7d/CelebrateDiversity.jpg
Probably not a good idea to wear it to the airport.
Hog
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:31:04 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> <The magic word "bomb">
>
>>>> Regardless of how you interpret the nuance, he used the magic word.
>>>
>>> How about if I wear this?
>>> http://1ac1.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/the-hundreds-brooklyn-projects-pasadena-adam-bomb-tshirt-2.jpg?w=499&h=451
>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/02/transformers_t_shirt/
>>
>> Frankly he should have been shot on sight for wearing a fucking
>> transformers tshirt at the age of 30.
>
> "A spokesman for Heathrow operator BAA offered: "If a T-shirt had a
> rude word or a bomb on it for example, a passenger may be asked to
> remove it"
>
> <head in hands>
You voted for it.
No smiley there because it really hacks me off. I fly rather often.
What is really funny is that Belfast City airport are more relaxed and good
natured.
--
Hog
Thomas
The last couple of flights I've been on, I've worn my riding gear,
which includes armored trousers. (My bags were packed so full, they
wouldn't hold any more. So, I'm not the lightest traveler in the
world. Big deal.) When I went through security, I knew I was going to
get the 3rd degree and was prepared for it. (Kind of a zen zone of
hell.) At every stop they frisked me, took my bags apart, and took
chemical samples from my fingertips. No biggie. I made sure I had time
before the plane left. And I damn sure didn't make any ill-advised
comments about how much I hate bureaucrats, or weapons, or the fact
that Osama is still running around free while I'm getting frisked.
Well, I did come close once. The chemical analyzer looks like a prop
from a CSI show, with a spiky monitor display. I asked if it can tell
you what it sees or just if there is something bad. The guy mumbled
something about it doesn't tell you everything, then seemed to clam up
before he disclosed some state secret. But I made sure that I was
polite and compliant for the whole ordeal.
Hog
> On a recent-ish trip to the US, one 'friendly' immigration agent asked
> me what was my business there, and I answered that I worked in the
> pharmaceuticl industry and was there for some design meetings. He
> then, jokingly, asked if that made me a drugs dealer. I laughed but
> made absolutely sure I didn't say 'yes', just in case his joke wasn't
> as innocent as it seemed. One has to be very careful, and joking
> around like Murray junior did is just asking for trouble.
>
> Also recently, I was returning via LHR and set off the scanner (can't
> remember why) so when frisked they noticed I was wearing a back
> support, and asked me to take it off. I, tired and in pain, said look,
> it's only thin, you can see it, why do I need to get it scanned? The
> lady then called someone else over to advise, and I started getting a
> bit shirty, then decided that after all I could probably take it off
> for a few seconds without collapsing in pain rather than cause any
> more trouble. I apologised for getting shirty with them, citing pain
> and tiredness, and that I knew they were just doing their job, and we
> all continued happy. But I can see how easy it could be to let it
> escalate as Murray must have done. Thankfully I'm not as stupid as he.
Sheesh you should try taking a crip in a wheelchair through Heathrow/Gatwick
and LA.
My son (10) flies as an escorted minor through Belfast and Leeds/Doncaster.
They always seem to pick him out. I rationalise that
a) he is my son
b) the world is full of scum who would use their kids as mules
--
Hog
Hog
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:23:36 -0600, vulgarandmischevious
> <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>
>> Damn right he's in disgrace. The Daily Mail, ffs. You're well
>> within your rights to never speak to the cunt again.
>
> heh
My new Amearican colleague and his wife wanted to get more of a feel for the
British zeitgist. Yesterday, without asking, they decided to buy a year
subscription to an English newspaper.
Yup, you guessed it.
I haven't said a word. Yet.
--
Hog
Malc
>
> Seen on a T-shirt at a family gathering:
>
> http://conservapedia.com/images/7/7d/CelebrateDiversity.jpg
>
> Probably not a good idea to wear it to the airport.
But they're not diverse. They all look more or less the same.
--
Malc
Malc
> Veggie Dave wrote:
> > "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote the following
--
Malc
Jeremy
ce413d...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk says...
>
> On 16 July, 11:46, Jeremy <jeremy0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <033786b8-fd91-4eb7-b7f4-401ae1173eb2
> > @d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 16 July, 11:14, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:49:10 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> > > > >TOG@Toil wrote:
> > > > >>http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
> >
> > > > >> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
> >
> > What's his occupation?
>
>
> Plays with money.
Thought maybe he was a journalist as well with an opportunity to create
a story.
--
jeremy
K1200S
TOG@Toil
<vulgarandmischevi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>
> Damn right he's in disgrace. The Daily Mail, ffs. You're well within
> your rights to never speak to the cunt again.
It was in the Spectator and the Speccy syndicated it to the DM.
Champ
<sm91...@CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Also recently, I was returning via LHR and set off the scanner (can't
>> remember why) so when frisked they noticed I was wearing a back
>> support, and asked me to take it off. I, tired and in pain, said look,
>> it's only thin, you can see it, why do I need to get it scanned? The
>> lady then called someone else over to advise, and I started getting a
>> bit shirty, then decided that after all I could probably take it off
>> for a few seconds without collapsing in pain rather than cause any
>> more trouble. I apologised for getting shirty with them, citing pain
>> and tiredness, and that I knew they were just doing their job, and we
>> all continued happy. But I can see how easy it could be to let it
>> escalate as Murray must have done. Thankfully I'm not as stupid as he.
>Sheesh you should try taking a crip in a wheelchair through Heathrow/Gatwick
>and LA.
I flew two different routes when I was using crutches in 2008. Didn't
have any problems.
Champ
<sm91...@CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>>
>>> Damn right he's in disgrace. The Daily Mail, ffs. You're well
>>> within your rights to never speak to the cunt again.
>My new Amearican colleague and his wife wanted to get more of a feel for the
>British zeitgist. Yesterday, without asking, they decided to buy a year
>subscription to an English newspaper.
>Yup, you guessed it.
To be fair, I can't think of a better way to "get the British
zeitgesit"
Hog
> The last couple of flights I've been on, I've worn my riding gear,
> which includes armored trousers. (My bags were packed so full, they
> wouldn't hold any more. So, I'm not the lightest traveler in the
> world. Big deal.) When I went through security, I knew I was going to
> get the 3rd degree and was prepared for it. (Kind of a zen zone of
> hell.) At every stop they frisked me, took my bags apart, and took
> chemical samples from my fingertips. No biggie. I made sure I had time
> before the plane left. And I damn sure didn't make any ill-advised
> comments about how much I hate bureaucrats, or weapons, or the fact
> that Osama is still running around free while I'm getting frisked.
> Well, I did come close once. The chemical analyzer looks like a prop
> from a CSI show, with a spiky monitor display. I asked if it can tell
> you what it sees or just if there is something bad. The guy mumbled
> something about it doesn't tell you everything, then seemed to clam up
> before he disclosed some state secret. But I made sure that I was
> polite and compliant for the whole ordeal.
Leeds Bradford runs flight to Islamabad so as you would expect they are
picky and humourless. I often ride to the airport and go through in all my
gear, helmet, no bags. The staff are much nicer to me when I'm in that
getup. I just have to remove my Daytonas (steel bracing).
--
Hog
Paul Carmichael
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "TOG@Toil"
> <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> saying something like:
>
>>http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>>
>>(He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
>
> They really are fucking twats.
Of course, all terrorists talk about bombs when in airports. That's how we
know they're terrorists.
--
Paul.
CBR1100XX SuperBlackbird (Buen mueble de patio), Orbea Dakar
BOTAFOT #4 BOTAFOF #30 MRO #24 OMF #15 UKRMMA #30
http://paulcarmichael.org/ (content pending)
Hog
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:02:56 +0100, "Hog"
> <sm91...@CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Also recently, I was returning via LHR and set off the scanner
>>> (can't remember why) so when frisked they noticed I was wearing a
>>> back support, and asked me to take it off. I, tired and in pain,
>>> said look, it's only thin, you can see it, why do I need to get it
>>> scanned? The lady then called someone else over to advise, and I
>>> started getting a bit shirty, then decided that after all I could
>>> probably take it off for a few seconds without collapsing in pain
>>> rather than cause any more trouble. I apologised for getting shirty
>>> with them, citing pain and tiredness, and that I knew they were
>>> just doing their job, and we all continued happy. But I can see how
>>> easy it could be to let it escalate as Murray must have done.
>>> Thankfully I'm not as stupid as he.
>
>> Sheesh you should try taking a crip in a wheelchair through
>> Heathrow/Gatwick and LA.
>
> I flew two different routes when I was using crutches in 2008. Didn't
> have any problems.
Oh I had no probs on crutches. I was pushing someone, who at the time
couldn't walk and barely stand.
--
Hog
Hog
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:05:21 +0100, "Hog"
> <sm91...@CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>>>
>>>> Damn right he's in disgrace. The Daily Mail, ffs. You're well
>>>> within your rights to never speak to the cunt again.
>
>> My new Amearican colleague and his wife wanted to get more of a feel
>> for the British zeitgist. Yesterday, without asking, they decided to
>> buy a year subscription to an English newspaper.
>> Yup, you guessed it.
>
> To be fair, I can't think of a better way to "get the British
> zeitgesit"
Fortunately I *really* don't think the DM represents most of us at all, or
the views of the new gov.
--
Hog
ogden
If they want a newspaper that tells them how the majority of the British
public think, they've probably chosen the right one.
ogden
I've been like that at airports a few times. Most notably after three
hours in the Cowtown Saloon at DFW.
Ace
wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:16:01 GMT, Ace wrote:
>
>> me what was my business there, and I answered that I worked in the
>> pharmaceuticl industry and was there for some design meetings. He
>> then, jokingly, asked if that made me a drugs dealer.
>
>I might have been inclined to comment that I'd never heard that one
>before.
Well yes, one might. I felt that seeming to appreciate his humour
would perhaps be the smarter move.
Ace
>If they want a newspaper that tells the majority of the British
>public how to think, they've probably chosen the right one.
Post corrected.
Scraggy
> Veggie Dave wrote:
>> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>> Regardless, there's a really easy to avoid the arseholes - don't
>>> use the B word at airport security. It's not as if there haven't
>>> been countless stories in the press in the past about people
>>> getting roasted for poorly timed stabs at humour.
>>
>> To be fair, though, he didn't make a bomb threat or a joke that
>> could be misinterpreted by any intelligent person as a bomb threat.
>
> It doesn't matter. It's the magic word. Everyone with half a brain
> knows you don't use it at airport security because there's a chance
> it will be needlessly escalated into a ridiculous farce. Just call it
> part of our modern social mores and move on.
Do fuck off.
While MM scored nul points for common sense, the 'security' twat would rival
Alan Davies for negative points.
Hopefully, 'S' T will have had an uncomfortable debrief and somebody from a
legal department will use the word entrapment /and/ make sure the wanker
understands it.
The more idiots in positions of authority are allowed to
reinvent/reinterpret various rules and proceedures, the further down the
slippery slope we all go.
I know it just how galling smiling at cunts can be, I've had a bit of
practice but there is no excuse for lack of proffessionalism by those that
purport to help 'protect' er, us.
--
I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as
members. Groucho Marx
YTC#1
> http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>
> (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
Rerpeat 3 times.
"there's no place like home"
And click your heals together
--
Bruce Porter
XJR1300SP, XJ900F, Pegaso 650 Trail (x2) one red one grey
POTM#1(KoTL), WUSS#1 , YTC#1(bar), OSOS#2(KoTL) , DS#3 , IbW#18 ,Apostle#8
"The internet is a huge and diverse community and not every one is friendly"
http://www.ytc1.co.uk
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
DozynSleepy
I would have suggested The Sun.
ABCs: National dailies, June 2010
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/page/2010/abcs2010
--
DozynSleepy
ogden
You appear to be making a completely different point.
Nige
Dunce hat for Mr Murray jnr.
BTW, picking up that shitheap in boxes this week :)
--
Nige,
'Candygram for Mongo'
R1
TOG@Toil
> TOG@Toil wrote:
> >http://tinyurl.com/2wm9jwe
>
> > (He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
>
> Dunce hat for Mr Murray jnr.
>
> BTW, picking up that shitheap in boxes this week :)
>
DozynSleepy
What point ? Both the Sun and the Mail are interchangable, I'd say they
represent the current British zeitgeist pretty accurately. The Sun has a
higher circulation so it's the winner of today's prize.
A more educated, objective and refined zeitgeist might be found in one
of the other papers but that'd be missing the point.
--
DozynSleepy
steve auvache
wrote:
I too would love to join in with this concensus and agree with you all but
I am scared they will come and arrest me and put me in jail and make me
eat Halal meat on fridays.
--
steve auvache
Hog
I ate it yesterday. Discovered a great Iranian place nearby. Apparently my
stomach doesn't mind.
--
Hog
Pete Murray
<doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I don't disagree that perhaps the wrong question was asked - although I
>suspect that it's a set script they have to go through when
>encountering such situations - however, as mentioned by Ogden, saying
>that sort of word once, let alone three times in earshot of security is
>somewhat asking for trouble, even thought I appreciate that it
>shouldn't be.
"That sort of word"? I'm left wondering just how many other words we
shouldn't mention within earshot of any trigger-happy would-be
dictator.
Gun - obviously. Bang - maybe? Make your own list, there's sure to
be some reasoning that would permit the peaked cap brigade to summon
armed forces to subdue you for nearly anything you say. Perhaps we
should all bow and creep past the powers with head held low, in total
silcence, in as subserviant a manner as possible.
When we've lost the freedom to speak, however bad taste it may be,
we've lost any hope of keeping other freedoms.
Or perhaps it might be appropriate to consider that anyone not
mentioning 'bomb' has something to hide and surely should be strip
searched with extreme prejudice?
--
Pete
KLE650
Salad Dodger
wrote:
>At every stop they frisked me, took my bags apart, and took
>chemical samples from my fingertips.
When we had this done at Eurotunnel last year, they took swabs of the
bar grips and levers.
I asked what it was for, and got the "checking for chemical residues"
line.
At which point I suggested to the two persons undertaking the
swabbing, that such procedures would only be useful in detecting
motorcyclists who assembled IEDs with their gloves on.
<blank looks all round>
Salad Dodger
<sm91...@CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Leeds Bradford runs flight to Islamabad
<shocked>
Pip Luscher
<totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>(He upset Gatwick Airport's Uruk-Hai)
As others have said, I reckon he should have expected some reaction,
but the main problem was a small man in a big hat.
--
-Pip
Pip Luscher
<malw...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>On 16 July, 15:53, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Seen on a T-shirt at a family gathering:
>>
>> http://conservapedia.com/images/7/7d/CelebrateDiversity.jpg
>>
>> Probably not a good idea to wear it to the airport.
>
>But they're not diverse. They all look more or less the same.
No more than two humans look more or less the same.
--
-Pip
Beav
"Champ" <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
news:g5r04652bv5sdpjf1...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:31:04 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> <The magic word "bomb">
>
>>> >Regardless of how you interpret the nuance, he used the magic word.
>>>
>>> How about if I wear this?
>>> http://1ac1.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/the-hundreds-brooklyn-projects-pasadena-adam-bomb-tshirt-2.jpg?w=499&h=451
>
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/02/transformers_t_shirt/
>>
>>Frankly he should have been shot on sight for wearing a fucking
>>transformers tshirt at the age of 30.
>
> "A spokesman for Heathrow operator BAA offered: "If a T-shirt had a
> rude word or a bomb on it for example, a passenger may be asked to
> remove it"
>
> <head in hands>
They'll be banning T-shirts bearing a cartoon figure smoking a cig. Or
swigging from a can of lager.
It's H&S and PC gon....*BANG*
--
Beav
YTC#1
I've noticed similar to this at Canary wharf, they only seem to swab the
windows and wing mirrors of cars.
Buses and taxis get through without checks.
So, if you want to bomb CW, buy a bus or a taxi.
Beav
"Mark Olson" <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote in message
news:NqqdnUMh167N793R...@posted.visi...
> Thomas wrote:
>
>> But, but, BUT... It's not a picture of a gun! No gun in the world
>> looks like that. It might also be a picture of a pen, or a spray paint
>> contraption, or a welding torch. It's some artist's fantasy depiction
>> of who knows what, but it ain't a picture of a real object.
>
> Seen on a T-shirt at a family gathering:
>
> http://conservapedia.com/images/7/7d/CelebrateDiversity.jpg
>
> Probably not a good idea to wear it to the airport.
So what happens if you happen to be carrying this months edition of "Guns
and Bullets" magazine in (gasp) plain view.
--
Beav
Mick Whittingham
<salad....@idnet.com> writes
I got pulled over for the explosives check at the tunnel a few years ago
before I moved to Norfolk.
I got the 'over official' have you any objections to us examining your
vehicle.
I replied, I welcomed it as it was for *my* benefit and that I approved
of them doing it thoroughly. And I would watch them so I was assured
they did it thoroughly.
Steering wheel and handles swabbed. Air sucker used all over interior
and boot. Everything done *very quickly* and with smiles, all tests
negative. Waved me on my way.
Now the previous day I had been clay shooting and I could smell burnt
powder residue in the car without the benefit of chromatic analysers (or
what ever they use).
I had the all over check at the Folkestone Boulogne crossing on a day
out with a mate of mine. We did the 'We approve of you doing this
thoroughly for our benefit" and the two guys said during the search. "I
don't know if I can handle this nice bit , everyone else moans at us!"
--
Mick Whittingham
'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.'
William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2.
Mick Whittingham
<pe...@btmungeinternet.com> writes
>On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:53:39 +0200, doetnietcomputeren
><doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I don't disagree that perhaps the wrong question was asked - although I
>>suspect that it's a set script they have to go through when
>>encountering such situations - however, as mentioned by Ogden, saying
>>that sort of word once, let alone three times in earshot of security is
>>somewhat asking for trouble, even thought I appreciate that it
>>shouldn't be.
>
>"That sort of word"? I'm left wondering just how many other words we
>shouldn't mention within earshot of any trigger-happy would-be
>dictator.
>
>Gun - obviously. Bang - maybe?
The fastest way through a crowded airport is by carrying a firearm.
Just make sure you let the airline know first and have it on the planes
manifest.
You have your own private check in desk.
Security, customs, boarder control come to you.
And you get someone to carry your bags for you. At least the one with
the firearm in.
Pete Murray
<Mi...@whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>The fastest way through a crowded airport is by carrying a firearm.
>
>Just make sure you let the airline know first and have it on the planes
>manifest.
>
>You have your own private check in desk.
>Security, customs, boarder control come to you.
>
>And you get someone to carry your bags for you. At least the one with
>the firearm in.
Oh yes, very reassuring:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10536793
Now that's what I call security.
--
Pete
KLE650
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember ogden <og...@pre.org> saying
something like:
>Just call it part of our
>modern social mores and move on.
NO!
It's spineless tossers who do just that who let these cunts get away
with their bullying behaviour.
Grimly Curmudgeon
<Mi...@whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk> saying something like:
>The fastest way through a crowded airport is by carrying a firearm.
>
>Just make sure you let the airline know first and have it on the planes
>manifest.
>
>You have your own private check in desk.
>Security, customs, boarder control come to you.
Pesky public schoolies.
Grimly Curmudgeon
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> saying something like:
>So what happens if you happen to be carrying this months edition of "Guns
>and Bullets" magazine in (gasp) plain view.
Stick in the holdall and take out "Terrorist Monthly". That'll be ok.
steve auvache
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Champ" <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
>news:g5r04652bv5sdpjf1...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:31:04 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>>
>> <The magic word "bomb">
>>
snip
>
>They'll be banning T-shirts bearing a cartoon figure smoking a cig. Or
>swigging from a can of lager.
>
>It's H&S and PC gon....*BANG*
Nah, that is bollox that is. The fucking liberal voter had it right the
first time, it is plain simple old fashioned manipulation of Us by Them so
we stay scared and do what they want without any fuss and judging by many
of the comments in this thread they have succeeded.
--
steve auvache
steve auvache
If it is a flight to Dallas you get an upgrade.
--
steve auvache
Thomas
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:00:14 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <keens...@gmail.com>
OTOH, since they've always swabbed my bare hands, I keep thinking that
any respectable terrorist will know to put on latex gloves before
assembling his IUD. Anyone who has been through airport security in
the last few years can figure out a bunch of different ways to skirt
the inspectors. The whole process is more geared to assuaging the egos
of authorities than ensuring security. For proof of this, just look at
sea port security.
ogden
> On Jul 16, 11:33 am, Salad Dodger <salad.dod...@idnet.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:00:14 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <keens...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >At every stop they frisked me, took my bags apart, and took
> > >chemical samples from my fingertips.
> >
> > When we had this done at Eurotunnel last year, they took swabs of the
> > bar grips and levers.
> >
> > I asked what it was for, and got the "checking for chemical residues"
> > line.
> >
> > At which point I suggested to the two persons undertaking the
> > swabbing, that such procedures would only be useful in detecting
> > motorcyclists who assembled IEDs with their gloves on.
> >
> > <blank looks all round>
>
> OTOH, since they've always swabbed my bare hands, I keep thinking that
> any respectable terrorist will know to put on latex gloves before
> assembling his IUD.
The last thing you want when you're on a suicide mission is the risk of
an unwanted pregnancy.
--
ogden | gsxr1000 | rgv250 (sold)
Lozzo
> Thomas wrote:
> > OTOH, since they've always swabbed my bare hands, I keep thinking
> > that any respectable terrorist will know to put on latex gloves
> > before assembling his IUD.
>
> The last thing you want when you're on a suicide mission is the risk
> of an unwanted pregnancy.
Womb raiders
--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
zymurgy
> Champ wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:31:04 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> > <The magic word "bomb">
>
>
> > rude word or a bomb on it for example, a passenger may be asked to remove it"
>
> > <head in hands>
>
>
> No smiley there because it really hacks me off. I fly rather often.
>
> What is really funny is that Belfast City airport are more relaxed and good natured.
They weren't the other week. The bloke in front of me was jumping
through hoops trying to get through. He tested positive for GSR, or
whatever they swab for, and despite showing the security woman his
warrant card, they weren't letting him through without a long private
chat :)
Paul.
Grimly Curmudgeon
something like:
> For proof of this, just look at sea port security.
Certainly, the last attempt to ram a building with a ship was an abject
failure.
Cab
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:49:10 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:>>Your brother's a fucking idiot.
>
> Hmm. My sympathies lie with Murray Minor. The whole security
> paraphaneila is about keeping us scared and in our place, not making
> us safer. I can't see how the statement "Are you now sure that they
> don't contain a bomb?" could possibly be intepreted as any sort of
> threat.
Quite. If terrorism also includes the prohibition of the use of words in the
English language, then the country has gone to pot.
--
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Cab
> Veggie Dave wrote:
>> "TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote the following
>> literary masterpiece:
>>> I think the behaviour of the police, as detailed in the article,
>>> suggests that they reached much the same conclusion.
>>
>> That's certainly how it read.
>>
>> Is he taking it any further?
>
> I'm with Champ on this one. The system is pretty much ok but is missing one
> crucial element. A requirement, an SLA even, for the operatives to treat
> the public with respect and deference and to be accountable for their
> actions. On the simple threat of losing their job.
I find UK border control operatives [1] amongst the rudest and sour faced
people I have ever seen in my travels around the world. Christ, even the
yanks sometimes smile when they do their job.
[1] Security, passport control, etc, etc.
Cab
>>
>> Indeed, and if he had in fact "made a joke about a bomb", I wouldn't
>> have much sympathy for him. But he didn't do that. At worst he made
>> a sarcastic remark.
>
> Regardless of how you interpret the nuance, he used the magic word.
>
> authorities, I see it as one word you just don't use at an airport if
> you want to spend as little time as possible getting from the checkin
> desks to the departure lounge.
>
> Saying "bomb" at airport security is about as funny, and as clever, as
> sticking a caricature of Mohammed (PBUH, etc) on the door of a mosque.
> Just because you're capable of doing something, and it's no skin off
> your nose, doesn't mean it's a clever thing to do.
>
What a crock of shit. Next you'll be saying that you can't walk funny or
have a squint.