John O'Groats to Lands End record (long)
Neal Champion
Below is the story that Superbike magazine published in Nov 84, about
my John O'Groats to Lands End run. If you are a member of the law
enforcement community, then it is obviously all a pack of lies...
Champ
(also available on my web site - www.nchamp.demon.co.uk)
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A CHAMPION'S TALE
It all started after seeing a small column in the September SuperBike.
Apparently Laverda RGS-mounted Tony Goulding had travelled from Land's
End to John O'Groats, a distance he measured as 930 miles (more
later), in 11 hours 58 minutes (an average of over 77mph). Being a
bit of a long distance, high-speed merchant myself (SuperBike
published my letter recounting my 1130 mile trip from Venice to
Huddersfield in one day), I decided that this was the sort of jaunt
for me. What's more, I decided that this was the sort of jaunt that
SuperBike might be interested in too. A phone call later and it was
all on.
The first problem was going to be petrol. My steed (a much loved and
thrashed seven-month and 15000-mile old Kawasaki Z750 Turbo) has a
meagre 3.5 gallon tank and under full throttle this equates to a range
of only just over 90 miles. Considering some of the more remote parts
of Scotland which I would be travelling through there was a real
danger of running out of gas. So a two-gallon can was purchased and
bungeed onto the pillion seat. Next I needed a route, so a couple of
evenings were spent in with maps, tape measure and pocket calculator.
The result was a schedule listing places and possible petrol stops,
and the expected distance and time of arrival. The schedule assumed
an eleven hour run.. That way I would break the record by a decent
margin and also have a bit of time in hand if anything went wrong.
The biggest surprise from looking at the maps was that motorways
covered less than half the distance (only about 400 miles).
Thus armed I headed north with a couple of friends. The idea was that
we would spend a couple of days touring round the Highlands and then I
would do the run while in Scotland. First stop was Sharples Service
Station in Bolton where a pair of Metzelers finest were fitted and
some super-trick 5W50 Mobil Rally Formula oil replaced the usual black
muck in the crankcases. While the front wheel was out we found that
the brake pads had seen better days too. Steve of Sharples laid me a
wager - he would sell me a set of pads at trade and if I broke the
record he would tear up the cheque. What could a boy do?
Incidentally, while the tyres were being fitted Steve showed us around
their stock and boy have they got a lot of tyres, Steve reckons to
have every Metzeler made in stock, so if you're having problems
getting tyres, give him a bell.
At Inverness I waved goodbye to my friends and covered the last 130
miles to John O'Groats alone. It was wet but by now I had resigned
myself to doing some of the trip in the rain - it was, after all, late
September. John O'Groats was cold, wet and deserted - the tourist
season was over. I managed to find a bed and breakfast proprietor who
was willing to get up at 5.30 am and then paid a brief visit to Dunnet
Head, the most northerly point on the British mainland. Then it was a
bite to eat, a last look at the map and an early night.
I woke at 5.30 am to my first big mistake. It was still dark. I had
some breakfast, but realised that my intended time of departure of
6.00 a.m. would have to be delayed until 6.15. Many thanks to the
proprietor of the Caber Feidh guest house for getting up so early and
witnessing my time of departure. Out on the road I was feeling good.
The roads were wet but the rain had stopped, and anyway the Scottish
roads receive so little traffic they're clean of oil, diesel and
rubber. I found that I could go almost as fast as if it had been dry.
Part of the reason for this was the ME33 Lazer front type which is by
far the best wet weather tyre I've ever ridden on.
By my first petrol stop I was making good time, five minutes ahead of
schedule. I was lucky to find a garage open just as my main tank
started to run dry. By the time I got to Inverness I was ten minutes
ahead of schedule and the A9 turned into a fast piece of dual
carriageway. I wound the throttle open and kept the speedo between
100 and 120. A brief stop for petrol at Dalwhinnie and I was in
Perth, 250 miles on the road in just over three hours - 35 minutes
ahead of schedule. This was beginning to look good. Another petrol
stop and then the M9 and M80 around Stirling. These were despatched
quickly, but on the fast A80 dual carriageway to Glasgow the bike
started to give its first protest. A weave which had first reared its
ugly but mild head on the A9 started to need a firm grip on the bars
and a blind faith in recent advances in Japanese frame technology.
Past Glasgow and onto the A74 towards Carlisle the problem got no
better. At the next petrol stop I was still 30 minutes ahead of
schedule so I paused to check tyre pressures and consume a Mars bar.
The pressures were OK but back on the road I soon realised that the
weave was still there too. The A74 was particularly bedevilled by
road works, necessitating some hooligan type overtaking manoeuvres.
Carlisle and the M6 soon arrived and I tank slapped my way down the
fast lane towards the next petrol stop. This could get dangerous I
thought, eyeing the rapidly advancing armco. I still had time in hand
at Killington services so I whipped off the side panel and checked the
pressure in the Uni-trak. The pressure was OK but the shock felt hot
to touch so I figured that 450 miles of hard use had overheated the
damping fluid. This suspicion was backed up when I ran into some
heavy rain soon after and the weaving eased off - the water must have
cooled the shock down.
The motorway was pretty crowded and my passing light came in for some
hard use. If anyone refused to move over I eventually gave up and
just overtook on the inside. I had hoped to maintain a high average
on the motorway, and I started to lose time as I passed through the
industrial north. It was about here that I passed a couple of other
big bikes in the rain - if the GPz900R and GS1000 pilots are reading
this now they'll know why the guy in yellow waterproofs on a turbo was
in such a hurry.
More petrol at Sandbach and I came across my biggest worry - police.
Fortunately they weren't interested in me - the heavy rain had caused
a few of our dozier citizens to develop lemming fever and drive into
one another. Still, trying to follow a police Range Rover at 95
without being noticed ain't much fun - fortunately he soon turned off.
By the time I got to my next petrol stop at Strensham I had lost of
lot of time and was now 10 minutes behind schedule. The M5 is only
two lanes here which slowed me down still further - I wonder if
overtaking on the hard shoulder constitutes dangerous driving? When
the third lane started again the traffic cleared and I decided to make
up some time. So it was 130 plus as much as possible. The petrol
gauge started to plummet and then it lied to me by telling me I had
half a gallon left while the bike went on to reserve. I pulled into
Brent Knoll services only to realise that it was in fact a "rest only"
service area. Thank God for the spare can. I topped up the two
gallons from the can and pulled into the next services 20 miles down
the road. More problems - the service staff were changing over and I
had to wait for five minutes before the pumps were switched on. Only
30 miles to Exeter and then I was on the fast A38 to Plymouth. I knew
I would make it now - I was ten minutes behind schedule but there were
only 150 miles to go. I lost a bit of time in traffic in Plymouth,
made my last petrol stop and then headed for the last 100 miles. The
weather was good now and I carved through the Friday afternoon traffic
with relish - this was more like it, motorways are OK for covering
distance but pretty boring even at 140 mph. Checking my clock (in the
fairing) I realised that I wasn't going to beat 11 hours but I was
going to get close. The Redruth bypass had been freshly resurfaced
with grit but I got to Penzance 15 minutes behind my eleven hour
schedule with ten miles to go. As long as I didn't crash I couldn't
fail. I flew along the last stretch of A30, always one of my
favourite roads, and almost arrived at Land's End on my ear by leaving
the braking just a touch late with the relief of having made it. I
rushed up to a tourist getting into his car and persuaded him to sign
his name to my arrival at 5.29 p.m. So there I was - 884 miles (by my
tacho) in 11 hours, 14 minutes - an average speed of 78.7 mph and an
average fuel consumption of around 29 mpg.
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Floyd
Neal Champion <ne...@nchamp.demon.co.uk>'s contribution to the thread at
this point was
>Below is the story that Superbike magazine published in Nov 84, about
>my John O'Groats to Lands End run. If you are a member of the law
>enforcement community, then it is obviously all a pack of lies...
>
>Champ
>(also available on my web site - www.nchamp.demon.co.uk)
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------------------------------
>
>A CHAMPION'S TALE
>
>It all started after seeing a small column in the September SuperBike.
<snippety snip>
>So there I was - 884 miles (by my
>tacho) in 11 hours, 14 minutes - an average speed of 78.7 mph and an
>average fuel consumption of around 29 mpg.
>
Well that killed a bit of time - interesting. Ever considered doing East
to West coast of the USA???
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Neal Champion
Floyd <fl...@valiant-pwashNOSPAM.demon.co.uk> did tap out :
>
>Well that killed a bit of time - interesting. Ever considered doing East
>to West coast of the USA???
>--
Well, maybe, but don't they throw you in jail for speeding there?
Champ
Floyd
>
>>
>>Well that killed a bit of time - interesting. Ever considered doing East
>>to West coast of the USA???
>>--
>
>Well, maybe, but don't they throw you in jail for speeding there?
>
Paul M Hounslow
>Floyd <fl...@valiant-pwashNOSPAM.demon.co.uk> did tap out :
>
>>
>>Well that killed a bit of time - interesting. Ever considered doing East
>>to West coast of the USA???
>>--
>
>Well, maybe, but don't they throw you in jail for speeding there?
For the Iron Butt 50CC (50 hours coast to coast) you need to get a
Policeman to witness the start and finish times :)
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In article <356034af.610689264@jabawok>, Paul M Hounslow <phounslow@obje
ctive.co.uk.NOSPAM> writes
>For the Iron Butt 50CC (50 hours coast to coast) you need to get a
>Policeman to witness the start and finish times :)
...and a cubic capacity of no more than 50cc I assume. Now that's what I
call moped endurance racing ;-)
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Matthew Cull
In article <muWczLAd...@valiant-pwash.demon.co.uk>, Floyd
<fl...@valiant-pwashNOSPAM.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Well, maybe, but don't they throw you in jail for speeding there?
They do here as well :-(
>Only if they catch you!!!!!!
Even if you catch yourself :-(
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Trevor Dennis
Neal Champion writes
>A weave which had first reared its
>ugly but mild head on the A9 started to need a firm grip on the bars
>and a blind faith in recent advances in Japanese frame technology.
[]
>This suspicion was backed up when I ran into some
>heavy rain soon after and the weaving eased off - the water must have
>cooled the shock down.
I reckon the two gallons of petrol at the back didn't help either.
Nice story though. I bet you'd have done better on your ZZ1100 ;)
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Neal Champion
Trevor Dennis <tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> did tap out :
>
>Nice story though. I bet you'd have done better on your ZZ1100 ;)
>
Well the ZZR is a better faster bike BUT, it wasn't around in 1984!
and I don't think it's possible to do this sort of run now - the roads
are quite a bit busier, and there's GATSOs everywhere, especially on
the A9.
....of course, I'm willing to be proved wrong :-)
Champ
Ian George
In article <3567042...@news.demon.co.uk>, Neal Champion
<ne...@nchamp.demon.co.uk> writes
>Trevor Dennis <tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> did tap out :
>
>>
>>Nice story though. I bet you'd have done better on your ZZ1100 ;)
>>
>
>Well the ZZR is a better faster bike BUT, it wasn't around in 1984!
>and I don't think it's possible to do this sort of run now - the roads
>are quite a bit busier, and there's GATSOs everywhere, especially on
>the A9.
>
>....of course, I'm willing to be proved wrong :-)
OK, when can I come round and pick up the ZZR?
Trevor Dennis
Neal Champion writes
>Trevor Dennis <tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> did tap out :
>
>>
>>Nice story though. I bet you'd have done better on your ZZ1100 ;)
>>
>
>Well the ZZR is a better faster bike BUT, it wasn't around in 1984!
>and I don't think it's possible to do this sort of run now - the roads
>are quite a bit busier, and there's GATSOs everywhere, especially on
>the A9.
>
>....of course, I'm willing to be proved wrong :-)
Possibly an overnight run starting from Lands End. If
you timed it to get to the end of the motorways at dawn,
and knew where the GATSOs were...
Better still would be to have Burt Renoulds driving point
shouting, "Bears in the air come back good buddy that's a
big 10/4 rubber duck".
Neal Champion
Trevor Dennis <tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> did tap out :
>Neal Champion writes
>
>>A weave which had first reared its
>>ugly but mild head on the A9 started to need a firm grip on the bars
>>and a blind faith in recent advances in Japanese frame technology.
>
>[]
>
>>This suspicion was backed up when I ran into some
>>heavy rain soon after and the weaving eased off - the water must have
>>cooled the shock down.
>
>I reckon the two gallons of petrol at the back didn't help either.
>
Trevor.
It's taken me a day to think about this, and the conclusion is :
bollox. Two gallons of fuel doesn't weigh much (thinks: a pint of
water weighs a pound and a quarter...1.25 x 8 x 2 = 20 lbs, plus the
can, maybe 25lbs tops), and bikes of that era used to handle BETTER
with a passenger or luggage.
Champ
Dan Nitschke
Trevor Dennis wrote:
> Better still would be to have Burt Renoulds driving point
...in an old Pontiac Firebird Trans Am...
> shouting, "Bears in the air come back good buddy that's a
> big 10/4 rubber duck".
And then you need Jerry Reed in an 18-wheeler with Fred
the basset hound, and lyrics like:
"Keep your foot hot on the pedal; son, never mind them
brakes. Let it all hang out, 'cause we got a run to make.
'Cause they're thirsty in Atlanta, and there's beer in
Texarcana, and we're gonna bring it back no matter what
it takes."
(BTW, their handles were "Bandit" and "Snowman". You
figure out which was which.)
/* dan */
[Back to lurking now... I just couldn't pass this one up.]
Trevor Dennis
Neal Champion writes
>It's taken me a day to think about this, and the conclusion is :
>bollox. Two gallons of fuel doesn't weigh much (thinks: a pint of
>water weighs a pound and a quarter...1.25 x 8 x 2 = 20 lbs, plus the
>can, maybe 25lbs tops), and bikes of that era used to handle BETTER
>with a passenger or luggage.
Was it strapped to the rear seat, or on a rack?
Alan W. Frame
Dan Nitschke <peda...@best.com> wrote:
> Trevor Dennis wrote:
>
> > Better still would be to have Burt Renoulds driving point
>
> ...in an old Pontiac Firebird Trans Am...
"James Dean in that Mercury '49
Junior Johnson runnin' through the woods of Caroline
Even Burt Reynolds in that black Trans Am
All gonna meet down at the Cadillac Ranch
Cadillac, Cadillac, long and dark, shiny and black..."
rgds, Alan
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Neal Champion
Trevor Dennis <tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> did tap out :
>Neal Champion writes
>
>>It's taken me a day to think about this, and the conclusion is :
>>bollox. Two gallons of fuel doesn't weigh much (thinks: a pint of
>>water weighs a pound and a quarter...1.25 x 8 x 2 = 20 lbs, plus the
>>can, maybe 25lbs tops), and bikes of that era used to handle BETTER
>>with a passenger or luggage.
>
>Was it strapped to the rear seat, or on a rack?
>
Bungeed to the rear seat.
Champ
Tim Puffett
In article <1998052522...@newtechd.demon.co.uk>, Alan W. Frame
<alan....@acm.org> writes
>Dan Nitschke <peda...@best.com> wrote:
>> Trevor Dennis wrote:
>>
>> > Better still would be to have Burt Renoulds driving point
>>
>> ...in an old Pontiac Firebird Trans Am...
>
>"James Dean in that Mercury '49
>Junior Johnson runnin' through the woods of Caroline
>Even Burt Reynolds in that black Trans Am
>All gonna meet down at the Cadillac Ranch
>
>Cadillac, Cadillac, long and dark, shiny and black..."
....
Open up them engines let 'em roar
Tearing up the highway just a big old dinasoar
How about:
I got a 32 Ford, she's a three-eight dream
Fuelie heads and a Hurst on the floor...
or:
From the tin roof top the little boy did watch
the procession down through town
Thru the museum where Daniel woke the devil with them boys from the
underground
First ones easy if a little unusual and the second should be a bit
harder, except for a fan, maybe one for Dan although he can be stumped
at times.
Tim BOF#009
Honda Firestorm
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Dan Nitschke
Tim Puffett wrote:
> ...maybe one for Dan although he can be stumped
> at times.
Like... right now! He hasn't a clue in hell *what*
songs these might be!
AND THAT'S OK WITH HIM!
{Just ignore this twit for a moment. He's loopy
as a rubber lizard. He'll calm down, we think;
and though he's not really ill, there's a little
yellow pill.}
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Tim Puffett
In article <356B4C...@best.com>, Dan Nitschke <peda...@best.com>
writes
>Tim Puffett wrote:
>
>> ...maybe one for Dan although he can be stumped
>> at times.
>
>Like... right now! He hasn't a clue in hell *what*
>songs these might be!
What? Not any of 'em?? Has the John O'Groats in the thread title
completely thrown you or something.
Shirley you got Alans original one?
>
>AND THAT'S OK WITH HIM!
Well it shouldn't be, we are talking about a premier American talent
here, faded of late perhaps, but if he gets his proper band back and
does a tour, look out!
Dan Nitschke
> >songs these might be!
>
> What? Not any of 'em?? Has the John O'Groats in the thread title
> completely thrown you or something.
>
> Shirley you got Alans original one?
That's "Alan's", thanks; and please stop calling me
Shirley.
Springsteen is passe', so nobody cares. And with this
very unpleasing sneezing and wheezing the calliope crashed
to the ground.
> >AND THAT'S OK WITH HIM!
>
> Well it shouldn't be,
Dan's on 10 hours' sleep in three days, and =way= too much
caffiene. Welcome to mania; take a seat, we'll be along in
a minute to serve you. You may pace in an agitated fashion
if you wish.
> we are talking about a premier American talent
> here,
Oh, my left hind foot we are. Even America has more talent
than *that*. You lack taste.
> faded of late perhaps, but if he gets his proper band back and
> does a tour, look out!
I will. Wherever he is, I won't be.
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Dan Nitschke
Tim Puffett wrote:
>
> In article <356C4B...@best.com>, Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com>
> writes
>
> What the hell _is_ a calliope? some kind of fairground organ thingy?
Yes, something like that.
Does nobody else on this fershlugginer group know how
to work a dictionary?!
> >Oh, my left hind foot we are. Even America has more talent
> >than *that*. You lack taste.
>
> Perhaps, but lets not get into arguments here,
AND WHY THE HELL NOT, HUH?!
> after all you have Paul
> Simon in your sig!
He writes real lyrics. Springsteen is just another
face in the crowd.
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Windswept
Neal Champion <ne...@nchamp.demon.co.uk> wrote
<snip>
> Champ
>
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> Kawasaki ZZR1100, Marin Rocky Ridge, Burton SuperModel 74, Jackson
Soloist
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A 74!! You must weigh about 20 stone! No wonder you ride a ZZR11!!
Dave
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For the record... Honda Firestorm, Suzuki RGV250, Specialized Alu
Rockhopper, Nitro Pyro 162, Nitro Jeff Davis 65, Burton Balance 56, errr,
dunno what a Jackson Soloist is, but hows about a set of Hardies (thats
bagpipes)
Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility
In article <356C82...@best.com>, Dan Nitschke wrote:
>Tim Puffett wrote:
>> after all you have Paul
>> Simon in your sig!
>He writes real lyrics. Springsteen is just another
>face in the crowd.
Dan, I caught a group[1], Swiss I presume[2], doing "The Boy
in the Bubble"[4] on TV here the other day -- to a country rhythm!
Just thought you'd be disgusted...
[1] Singer/guitarrist & second guitar, female vocalist coming in on the
chorus, and banjo player in the background.
[2] Country is big in Switzerland[3].
[3] There's even a "Country Bar" down the road in Villigen in which some
of my visiting colleagues like to drink.
[4] http://www.cs.umd.edu/~xhan/lyrics/PaulSimon/graceland.html
[5] DYF!
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Tim Puffett <t...@puffett.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> <alan....@acm.org> writes
[]
> How about:
>
> I got a 32 Ford, she's a three-eight dream
> Fuelie heads and a Hurst on the floor...
The second line is _Racin' in the Streets_, but I don't know about the
first.
> or:
>
> From the tin roof top the little boy did watch
> the procession down through town
> Thru the museum where Daniel woke the devil with them boys from the
> underground
Sounds like the same artist as this:
The Ice Man's mule is parked
Outside the bar
Where a man with missing fingers
Plays a strange guitar
And the German dwarf
Dances with the butcher's son
They're dancing on the roof
And the ceiling's coming down
I sleep with my shovel and my leather gloves [1]
A little trouble makes it worth the going
And a little rain never hurt no-one.
rgds, Alan
[1] ObHarley
Trevor Dennis
Tim Puffett writes about Dan
>Perhaps, but lets not get into arguments here,
>after all you have Paul Simon in your sig!
...and there's still room for Windy and me. [1]
...and there's still room for Windy and I. [2]
[1][2] Delete unwanted line.
Tim Puffett
In article <199805281...@newtechd.demon.co.uk>, Alan W. Frame
<alan....@acm.org> writes
>Tim Puffett <t...@puffett.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> <alan....@acm.org> writes
>[]
>> How about:
>>
>> I got a 32 Ford, she's a three-eight dream
>> Fuelie heads and a Hurst on the floor...
>
>The second line is _Racin' in the Streets_, but I don't know about the
>first.
Both from the song, just an earlier version. Got the lyrics in a book
somewhere, might have a tape too.
>
>> or:
>>
>> From the tin roof top the little boy did watch
>> the procession down through town
>> Thru the museum where Daniel woke the devil with them boys from the
>> underground
Bruce again, from a song called Hey Santa Ana or Contessa depending on
what you read. Superb track from a bootleg called 'Fire on the
Fingertips'
>
>Sounds like the same artist as this:
>
>The Ice Man's mule is parked
>Outside the bar
>Where a man with missing fingers
>Plays a strange guitar
>And the German dwarf
>Dances with the butcher's son
>
>They're dancing on the roof
>And the ceiling's coming down
>I sleep with my shovel and my leather gloves [1]
>A little trouble makes it worth the going
>And a little rain never hurt no-one.
Hmmmm...my only excuse is that I have a rotten cold.....
>
>rgds, Alan
>
>[1] ObHarley
Would have though the 'missing fingers' line counted too
Dan Nitschke
Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility wrote:
>
> In article <356C82...@best.com>, Dan Nitschke wrote:
> >Tim Puffett wrote:
> >> Simon in your sig!
>
> >face in the crowd.
>
> Dan, I caught a group[1], Swiss I presume[2], doing "The Boy
> in the Bubble"[4] on TV here the other day --
It was a slow day [1]?
> to a country rhythm!
> Just thought you'd be disgusted...
Thanks for sharing. Really. And I'm just saying that.
> [4] http://www.cs.umd.edu/~xhan/lyrics/PaulSimon/graceland.html
Oh, like I need *that*.
> [5] DYF!
Oh, I forgot... that's *my* job!
[1] And the sun was beating on the soldiers by the
side of the road...
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Dan Nitschke
Trevor Dennis wrote:
>
> Tim Puffett writes about Dan
>
> >Perhaps, but lets not get into arguments here,
>
>
> ...and there's still room for Windy and I. [2]
>
> [1][2] Delete unwanted line.
(* sigh *)
Go back, and eliminate Windy [1], and try it again.
A conjunction does not change the pronoun [2].
[1] Not literally, you understand.
[2] Therefore, I'll leave it as AEFTR to pick the
correct one.
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==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==
And I have been drunk now for over two weeks; I passed out,
and I rallied, and I sprung a few leaks. -- Jimmy Buffett
Neal Champion
"Windswept" <dave.m...@NoSpam.co.uk> did tap out :
>>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Kawasaki ZZR1100, Marin Rocky Ridge, Burton SuperModel 74, Jackson
>Soloist
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>A 74!! You must weigh about 20 stone! No wonder you ride a ZZR11!!
powder days - I'm getting a custom 60 for ordinary conditions.
>
>Dave
>----------------------------------------
>For the record... Honda Firestorm, Suzuki RGV250, Specialized Alu
>Rockhopper, Nitro Pyro 162, Nitro Jeff Davis 65, Burton Balance 56, errr,
>dunno what a Jackson Soloist is, but hows about a set of Hardies (thats
>bagpipes)
Well, the Hardies are in the right ballpark; a Jackson Soloist is a
guitar :-)
Champ
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Kawasaki ZZR1100, Marin Rocky Ridge, Burton SuperModel 74, Jackson Soloist
Windy
On Thu, 28 May 1998 15:52:19 -0700, Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com>
wrote:
>Trevor Dennis wrote:
>>
>> Tim Puffett writes about Dan
>>
>> >Perhaps, but lets not get into arguments here,
>> >after all you have Paul Simon in your sig!
>>
>> ...and there's still room for Windy and me. [1]
>>
>> ...and there's still room for Windy and I. [2]
>>
>> [1][2] Delete unwanted line.
>
>(* sigh *)
>
>Go back, and eliminate Windy
>
You'd have a job!
I'm as stubborn as a mule; as thick-skinned as they come and stickier
than a sticky thing ....
..... and you lot are only Gits!
HTH
--
~*~*~*~* " W I N D Y" *~*~*~*~
To Love Life You Have To Live It!
NGG #13 - unlucky for some
Tactician & Incendiary Devices
http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html
Alan W. Frame
> >
> >Outside the bar [3]
> >Where a man with missing fingers [4]
> >Plays a strange guitar [5]
> >And the German dwarf [6]
> >Dances with the butcher's son [7]
> >
> >They're dancing on the roof
> >And the ceiling's coming down
> >I sleep with my shovel and my leather gloves [1]
> >A little trouble makes it worth the going
> >And a little rain never hurt no-one.
>
> Hmmmm...my only excuse is that I have a rotten cold.....
Tom Waites _A Little Rain_ from _Bone Machine_ 1992
rgds, Alan
> >[1] ObHarley
> Would have though the 'missing fingers' line counted too
Well, if you want to get pedantic:
[2] is Jamie from Ixion (rides an H-D during the two day summer in the
Yukon.)
[3] is L'Abbaye in Smithfields on the last friday of the month
[4] is Joey Dunlop
[5] is Sol (Well the *music* is strange, if not the guitar)
[6] Well, I'll let you figure that one out.
[7] Some butchers sell poultry
Dan Nitschke
Windy wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 May 1998 15:52:19 -0700, Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com>
> wrote:
>
> >(* sigh *)
> >
> >Go back, and eliminate Windy
> >
> You'd have a job!
Oh, so you're gonna quote me out of context to make
me look foolish, huh? Well, I got some news for you,
and you'll soon find out it's true, and then you'll
have to eat your lunch all by yourself: I was looking
foolish _long_ before you got here, and I don't need
no steenkin' *help* to do so!
So there.
> I'm as stubborn as a mule;
Well, I am a rock. I am an island.
> as thick-skinned as they come
More than Simes' hippo-hide?
> and stickier
> than a sticky thing ....
...covered with sticky stuff on a sticky table and
stuck to it with a stick...
> ..... and you lot are only Gits!
Well, that just means we have to overcome our natural
limitiations, doesn't it? OK, gits, let's really put
our backs into it and...
...and...
...yeah. Let's just admit defeat and go home. No use
denying reality. We might hurt ourselves.
(Just look at what we have to work with...)
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Trevor Dennis
Dan Nitschke writes
>Go back, and eliminate Windy [1], and try it again.
But but but, she's a member of the NGG. Have
you any idea how dangerous that would be?
Tim Puffett
In article <199805291...@newtechd.demon.co.uk>, Alan W. Frame
<alan....@acm.org> writes
>Tim Puffett <t...@puffett.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> <alan....@acm.org> writes
>[]
>> >
>> >Sounds like the same artist as this:
>> >
>> >The Ice Man's mule is parked [2]
>> >Outside the bar [3]
>> >Where a man with missing fingers [4]
>> >Plays a strange guitar [5]
>> >And the German dwarf [6]
>> >Dances with the butcher's son [7]
>> >
>> >They're dancing on the roof
>> >And the ceiling's coming down
>> >I sleep with my shovel and my leather gloves [1]
>> >A little trouble makes it worth the going
>> >And a little rain never hurt no-one.
>>
>> Hmmmm...my only excuse is that I have a rotten cold.....
>
>Tom Waites _A Little Rain_ from _Bone Machine_ 1992
In that case I'd have never got it. Could never get into Tom Waites,
who, for some reason I lump together with Dr John (Night Tripper). They
seemed to be on OGWT (and Disco 2 before that?...was there something
else in between?) too often and it usually constituted a 'duff' week.
There's some classic footage from that era I'd love to see again. I
just found an old tape, marked very casually 'Yes' which turns out to be
a live recording from the 1st Friday Rock Show (TV introduces it as
such) of Yes playing Wembley. Spent a couple of hours with Wavelab
getting it ready to write to CD. Probably end up playing it once before
realising it was crap and it just my memory playing tricks.
Tim BOF#009
Honda Firestorm
Dan Nitschke
Trevor Dennis wrote:
>
> Dan Nitschke writes
>
> >Go back, and eliminate Windy [1], and try it again.
>
> But but but, she's a member of the NGG. Have
> you any idea how dangerous that would be?
And just *who* in the hell do you think you're
talking to [1]? Not only do I -know- the NGG,
I *married* one, remember?
If anyone knows how dangerous they are, either
alone or in a pack, 'tis I. And they're _vicious_
when cornered.
[1] I don't know, either.
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Windy
On Fri, 29 May 1998 11:17:42 -0700, Dan Nitschke <peda...@best.com>
wrote:
>Windy wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 28 May 1998 15:52:19 -0700, Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >(* sigh *)
>> >
>> >Go back, and eliminate Windy
>> >
>> You'd have a job!
>
>Oh, so you're gonna quote me out of context to make
>me look foolish, huh? Well, I got some news for you,
>and you'll soon find out it's true, and then you'll
>have to eat your lunch all by yourself: I was looking
>foolish _long_ before you got here, and I don't need
>no steenkin' *help* to do so!
>
You'd already gone? :)
>
>So there.
>
So there to you too! Put that in your pipe and smoke it
>
>> I'm as stubborn as a mule;
>
>Well, I am a rock. I am an island.
>
Just like Gibraltar? Full of wild monkeys?
>
>> as thick-skinned as they come
>
>More than Simes' hippo-hide?
>
Much, much more - I've had more experience
>
>> and stickier
>> than a sticky thing ....
>
>...covered with sticky stuff on a sticky table and
>stuck to it with a stick...
>
at least
>
>> ..... and you lot are only Gits!
>
>Well, that just means we have to overcome our natural
>limitiations, doesn't it? OK, gits, let's really put
>our backs into it and...
>
>...and...
>
>...yeah. Let's just admit defeat and go home. No use
>denying reality. We might hurt ourselves.
>
No pain. no gain
>
>(Just look at what we have to work with...)
>
The potential's there ....
Dan Nitschke
Windy wrote:
>
> On Fri, 29 May 1998 11:17:42 -0700, Dan Nitschke <peda...@best.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Windy wrote:
>
> >> You'd have a job!
> >
> >Oh, so you're gonna quote me out of context to make
> >me look foolish, huh? Well, I got some news for you,
> >and you'll soon find out it's true, and then you'll
> >have to eat your lunch all by yourself: I was looking
> >foolish _long_ before you got here, and I don't need
> >no steenkin' *help* to do so!
> >
> You'd already gone? :)
Eagle eyes you got there.
> >So there.
> >
> So there to you too! Put that in your pipe and smoke it
Is this some of that demon weed stuff? Dan is a nice
boy.
> >> I'm as stubborn as a mule;
> >
> >Well, I am a rock. I am an island.
> >
> Just like Gibraltar? Full of wild monkeys?
No, more like Ged, the Rock of Ages.
And Dan is full of lies, not monkeys. AtWoOWK.
> >> as thick-skinned as they come
> >
> >More than Simes' hippo-hide?
> >
> Much, much more - I've had more experience
But I thought Simes was almost a Trevor's age old.
Am I wrong?
> >> and stickier
> >> than a sticky thing ....
> >
> >...covered with sticky stuff on a sticky table and
> >stuck to it with a stick...
> >
> at least
I know. It must be an NGG thing.
> >(Just look at what we have to work with...)
> >
> The potential's there ....
...but the current's weak.
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Windy
On Sat, 30 May 1998 12:12:15 -0700, Dan Nitschke <peda...@best.com>
wrote:
>Windy wrote:
>
>> You'd already gone? :)
>
>Eagle eyes you got there.
>
Of course, I was wearing me specs!
>
>> >So there.
>> >
>> So there to you too! Put that in your pipe and smoke it
>
>Is this some of that demon weed stuff? Dan is a nice
>boy.
>
Yeah, he's a real cute kid!
>
>> >> I'm as stubborn as a mule;
>> >
>> >Well, I am a rock. I am an island.
>> >
>> Just like Gibraltar? Full of wild monkeys?
>
>No, more like Ged, the Rock of Ages.
>
<VBG>
>
>And Dan is full of lies, not monkeys. AtWoOWK.
>
I'm sorry, I'll only take Dan's word - who are you?
>
>> >> as thick-skinned as they come
>> >
>> >More than Simes' hippo-hide?
>> >
>> Much, much more - I've had more experience
>
>But I thought Simes was almost a Trevor's age old.
>Am I wrong?
>
No, just for a change you got something right!
(Dammit, I'm getting brave here!)
Age, my dear boy, does not necessarily have anything to do with
experience!
>
>> >> and stickier
>> >> than a sticky thing ....
>> >
>> >...covered with sticky stuff on a sticky table and
>> >stuck to it with a stick...
>> >
>> at least
>
>I know. It must be an NGG thing.
>
Yup - once we've got you in our clutches ......
*cackle*
>
>> >(Just look at what we have to work with...)
>> >
>> The potential's there ....
>
>...but the current's weak.
>
Here y'go - borrow my battery charger
Dan Nitschke
Windy wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 May 1998 12:12:15 -0700, Dan Nitschke <peda...@best.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Is this some of that demon weed stuff? Dan is a nice
> >boy.
> >
> Yeah, he's a real cute kid!
Just guessing... you've never seen him, have you?
I thought so.
> >> Just like Gibraltar? Full of wild monkeys?
> >
> >No, more like Ged, the Rock of Ages.
> >
> <VBG>
I'm The Anti-Ged. I think this means that, being
Ged's opposite, I still have hair.
> >And Dan is full of lies, not monkeys. AtWoOWK.
> >
> I'm sorry, I'll only take Dan's word - who are you?
His evil twin, Skippy. And suddenly, I'm not half
the man I used to be [1].
> >But I thought Simes was almost a Trevor's age old.
> >Am I wrong?
> >
> No, just for a change you got something right!
> (Dammit, I'm getting brave here!)
*I'll* say. Admitting I'm right? My mission is to sow
chaos, disorder, and moral disintegration.
> Age, my dear boy, does not necessarily have anything to do with
> experience!
So I can be immature well into my '90s, just like
Mr. Dennis? Kewl.
> >I know. It must be an NGG thing.
> >
> Yup - once we've got you in our clutches ......
> *cackle*
You're merciless, cold, and cruel. You'll dissect a man
just to see what's inside [2]. Fortunately, I have a
high pain threshold (from practice). Do your worst.
> >> The potential's there ....
> >
> >...but the current's weak.
> >
> Here y'go - borrow my battery charger
I might as well -- it looks like this is terminal.
[1] This could be due to NGG intervention with
pointy things. Or not.
[2] Usually lots of icky stuff [3].
[3] And a spleen.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Well, you can save that bad-boy posturing, I've seen that sneer
before. -- Steve Taylor, "You've Been Bought"
Trevor Dennis
Dan Nitschke writes
>But I thought Simes was almost a Trevor's age old.
>Am I wrong?
He's my age old mate. Does that count?
Dan Nitschke
Trevor Dennis wrote:
>
> Dan Nitschke writes
>
> >But I thought Simes was almost a Trevor's age old.
> >Am I wrong?
>
> He's my age old mate. Does that count?
That's what I was asking. How big of you to answer
for Simes.
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Alan W. Frame
Trevor Dennis <tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Dan Nitschke writes
>
> >But I thought Simes was almost a Trevor's age old.
> >Am I wrong?
>
> He's my age old mate. Does that count?
<group hug>
...and Trev, you're my old age mate. :-)
rgds, Alan
Darsy
Dan Nitschke wrote in message <356F1B...@best.com>...
>Trevor Dennis wrote:
>>
>> Dan Nitschke writes
>>
>> >Go back, and eliminate Windy [1], and try it again.
>>
>> But but but, she's a member of the NGG. Have
>> you any idea how dangerous that would be?
>
>And just *who* in the hell do you think you're
>talking to [1]? Not only do I -know- the NGG,
>I *married* one, remember?
>
>If anyone knows how dangerous they are, either
>alone or in a pack, 'tis I. And they're _vicious_
>when cornered.
I rode a CG125 with no fork oil that was like that.
--
Darsy
Trevor Dennis
Darsy writes
>Dan Nitschke wrote in message <356F1B...@best.com>...
>>If anyone knows how dangerous they are, either
>>alone or in a pack, 'tis I. And they're _vicious_
>>when cornered.
>I rode a CG125 with no fork oil that was like that.
Pah! Yer young whipper snapper.
My first road bike was a Velocette Viper Clubmans, and that was
'kin scary around corners.
There's a bend not far from where I grew up, on which a Triumph
Boneville rider and his passenger were killed, while trying to
take it at 80mph. At the time I thought it amounted to a suicidal
attempt on the corner.
Nowadays any sports bike would hardly notice it at anything less
than 120mph.
Trevor Dennis
Alan W. Frame writes
>Trevor Dennis <tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Dan Nitschke writes
>>
>> >But I thought Simes was almost a Trevor's age old.
>> >Am I wrong?
>>
>> He's my age old mate. Does that count?
>
><group hug>
>
>...and Trev, you're my old age mate. :-)
<group strangle>
...and Alan is my old mate, deceased.
Windy
On Sun, 31 May 1998 23:17:27 GMT, Si...@raunds.demon.co.uk (Simon
Atkinson) wrote:
>On Sun, 31 May 1998 22:07:11 +0100, in uk.rec.motorcycles, Trevor Dennis
><tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> scribed article
><Fw2OqgB$Zcc1...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> and said:
>
>>Dan Nitschke writes
>>
>>>But I thought Simes was almost a Trevor's age old.
>>>Am I wrong?
>>
>>He's my age old mate. Does that count?
>
>I'm filling up.
>
You mean there's room for more?!!
Darsy
Trevor Dennis wrote in message ...
>Darsy writes
>>Dan Nitschke wrote in message <356F1B...@best.com>...
>
>>>If anyone knows how dangerous they are, either
>>>alone or in a pack, 'tis I. And they're _vicious_
>>>when cornered.
>
>>I rode a CG125 with no fork oil that was like that.
>
>Pah! Yer young whipper snapper.
>
>My first road bike was a Velocette Viper Clubmans, and that was
>'kin scary around corners.
>
>There's a bend not far from where I grew up, on which a Triumph
>Boneville rider and his passenger were killed, while trying to
>take it at 80mph. At the time I thought it amounted to a suicidal
>attempt on the corner.
>
>Nowadays any sports bike would hardly notice it at anything less
>than 120mph.
What happened - did they extend the curve, or imporve the road surface?
--
Darsy
Windy
On Mon, 01 Jun 1998 22:48:30 GMT, Si...@raunds.demon.co.uk (Simon
Atkinson) wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:57:52 GMT, in uk.rec.motorcycles,
>s...@windfalls.u-net.com (Windy) scribed article
><35862002...@news.u-net.com> and said:
>
>>On Sun, 31 May 1998 23:17:27 GMT, Si...@raunds.demon.co.uk (Simon
>>Atkinson) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 31 May 1998 22:07:11 +0100, in uk.rec.motorcycles, Trevor Dennis
>>><tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> scribed article
>>><Fw2OqgB$Zcc1...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> and said:
>>>
>>>>Dan Nitschke writes
>>>>
>>>>>But I thought Simes was almost a Trevor's age old.
>>>>>Am I wrong?
>>>>
>>>>He's my age old mate. Does that count?
>>>
>>>I'm filling up.
>>>
>>You mean there's room for more?!!
>
>Oy... Woman, get back into the kitchen and rattle them pots and pans.
>
Awwww! Can't I stay here and rattle you a little more .......
Please .............?
Pretty please ...................?
My own sweet, little fluffy bunskin
xxxxxx
Windy
On Wed, 03 Jun 1998 03:47:04 GMT, Si...@raunds.demon.co.uk (Simon
Atkinson) wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Jun 1998 21:40:49 GMT, in uk.rec.motorcycles,
>s...@windfalls.u-net.com (Windy) scribed article
><3581636e...@news.u-net.com> and said:
>
>
>>My own sweet, little fluffy bunskin
>
>Wots a 'bunskin'? Something Merkins have over their arses?
>
You admitting to something here Simes?
>
>>xxxxxx
>
>She loves me, She loves me not, she loves me, she loves me not, She
>loves me, She love....
>
>Bugger.