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Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 1:51:48 PM4/28/11
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Anyone got theirs yet?
1st impressions are very good. Audio is great, and the size of it is
amazing.
The speaker/mike socket is identical to my Yaesu vx6 and the yaesu
mike works fine, so I assume the programming leads might be simular.
Hardly a mention in the manual about programming, has anyone managed
to get it to programme or indeed found any software?

Andy Foad

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Apr 28, 2011, 2:15:05 PM4/28/11
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Not yet.

Thismay be of use to you, posted on 409shop
as HOT NEWS ;-)

How to change the Channel Step at BAOFENG UV-3R

Switch On Radio => Press [U/V] about 3sec, Radio will change to
Frequency mode in display. Then press [MENU 9],

press [U/V] to enter the STEP, then you can switch the knob to change
the Channel Step into: 5/6.25/10/12.5/20/25khz


So look slike no need for prog cable.

Where did you get yours ?

Ian Jackson

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Apr 28, 2011, 2:11:54 PM4/28/11
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In message <3m9jr69aogp718b42...@4ax.com>, Rambo
<Ra...@thisaintreal.org> writes

I got mine yesterday. I'm generally getting the hang of it. However,
occasionally it does seem to have a mind of its own, and pretends it
won't do what you want it to.

I accidentally found how to go 1MHz steps (which doesn't appear to be in
the manual). This is useful, as the instructions say 25kHz is the
largest, and you need to do a lot of rotations of the knob to make large
changes in frequency.

The one thing I'm uneasy about is that mine absolutely refuses to put
out a 1750kHz repeater access tone. The manual says (slightly
re-phrased) "Press and hold the PTT button, and press the F/ALERT
button". Mine simply puts out the warbling alert alarm. Is this a
'fault', or a 'feature'? I've tried various other combinations, but
haven't cracked it yet.
--
Ian

Andy Foad

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Apr 28, 2011, 2:28:50 PM4/28/11
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On Apr 28, 7:11 pm, Ian Jackson

<ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> The one thing I'm uneasy about is that mine absolutely refuses to put
> out a 1750kHz repeater access tone. The manual says (slightly
> re-phrased) "Press and hold the PTT button, and press the F/ALERT
> button". Mine simply puts out the warbling alert alarm. Is this a
> 'fault', or a 'feature'? I've tried various other combinations, but
> haven't cracked it yet.

Just a thought, since I don't have mine yet.

Do you need to deactivate CTCSS for the
toneburst to work ?

I know my VX7R works on the same priciple.

Andy Foad

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Apr 28, 2011, 2:32:25 PM4/28/11
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What's the sensitivity like of Band 2 Fm ?

Just curious, as I do use my other handies for Radio 4.

Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 2:42:06 PM4/28/11
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409 shop....I noticed the step changes, the manual is wrong. But the
repeater offset is the problem, it dosn't save in the memory, just
uses the offset the radio is set to. However the manual states that
this can be set in the programming software? No alphaneumric display
either, but with Puxing ect you can set this also with the software
so maybe.. Its fairly logical to progamme though otherwise. Other cons
no signal strength meter, but it does have a charging/power socket in
the radio body...Wouxan take note! Oh and the SMA is female the
opposite to the other chinese radios. But for the money its brilliant!

Andy Foad

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Apr 28, 2011, 3:03:50 PM4/28/11
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On Apr 28, 7:42 pm, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
>
> >Where did you get yours ?
>
> 409 shop....I noticed the step changes, the manual is wrong. But  the
> repeater offset is the problem, it dosn't save in the memory, just
> uses the offset the radio is set to.

I can't see anything in the downloaded manual
about setting repeater shifts at all. Says it can be
done but no mention how. I wonder if the shifts
are fixed unless done by software.


>Other cons no signal strength meter,

Neither do the Wouxuns ;-)

Funny how the Baofeng manual calls it an s-meter,
but the scale upon closer inspection looks like
it's only used to indicate volume and battery
charging level.

Jim Stewart ...

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Apr 28, 2011, 3:22:56 PM4/28/11
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baofeng means being sick after a bevie in glasgow.....


Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 3:38:22 PM4/28/11
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT), Andy Foad
<punkb...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>On Apr 28, 7:42 pm, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
>>
>> >Where did you get yours ?
>>
>> 409 shop....I noticed the step changes, the manual is wrong. But  the
>> repeater offset is the problem, it dosn't save in the memory, just
>> uses the offset the radio is set to.
>
>I can't see anything in the downloaded manual
>about setting repeater shifts at all. Says it can be
>done but no mention how. I wonder if the shifts
>are fixed unless done by software.
>

Repeater shift freq is menu item 10 they call it offset, + or - is
called shift and is item 11.


>>Other cons no signal strength meter,
>
>Neither do the Wouxuns ;-)
>
>Funny how the Baofeng manual calls it an s-meter,
>but the scale upon closer inspection looks like
>it's only used to indicate volume and battery
>charging level.

There is no indication at all on receive. I'll try and program
manually again when I've got time over the weekend ,I need an 8 meg
offset on uhf, but can't seem to set it in the memory. It's fine on
the radio in VFO mode though. It might be me though...the manual is a
little confusing.

Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 3:41:25 PM4/28/11
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Very good, very clear audio as well.

Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 4:20:04 PM4/28/11
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Mines the same...no tone, but I can't see it in my manual either.
The biggest problem is the manual I think, quite a few ommissions and
errors.

Have you sussed the Dual Watch yet? It makes no sense to me.

Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 4:25:26 PM4/28/11
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:38:22 +0100, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org>
wrote:

Well it seems to be holding the repeater shifts fine in the memory
now.....?

I'm starting to really like this little beggar!

Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 4:41:07 PM4/28/11
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Nice thought but It makes no difference.

Ian Jackson

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Apr 28, 2011, 5:50:19 PM4/28/11
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In message <n5kjr619n3ogcbsbj...@4ax.com>, Rambo
<Ra...@thisaintreal.org> writes

I thought that might be the case, but no. I've tried CTCSS on and off,
and no 1750kHz toneburst - only the alert alarm.

I notice that the instruction for the toneburst 'Tone Calling' is the
first instruction about the actual key functions. It's on p9 of the CD
manual. I would have expected it to be much later on. Could it be that
it is a recent addition?
--
Ian

Ian Jackson

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Apr 28, 2011, 5:55:45 PM4/28/11
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In message <r6hjr6h3l12oju4it...@4ax.com>, Rambo
<Ra...@thisaintreal.org> writes

The paper manual is in Chinese. The English one is on a mini-CD. Have
you got the same? The toneburst instruction is (surprisingly) the first
about the actual functions of the keys. It's on p9.

>Have you sussed the Dual Watch yet? It makes no sense to me.

No. I haven't got that far yet.
--
Ian

Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 6:25:26 PM4/28/11
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You've got a cd manual? Mines a photocopy, but yes you are right there
it is. Any idea how to change the bandwidth?..there are icons in the
display.

Ian Jackson

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Apr 28, 2011, 6:30:20 PM4/28/11
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In message <05cjr69cotg3bm149...@4ax.com>, Rambo
<Ra...@thisaintreal.org> writes

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:15:05 -0700 (PDT), Andy Foad
><punkb...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 28, 6:51 pm, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
>>> Anyone got theirs yet?
>>> 1st impressions are very good. Audio is great, and the size of it is
>>> amazing.
>>> The speaker/mike socket  is identical to my Yaesu vx6 and the yaesu
>>> mike works fine, so I  assume the programming leads might be simular.
>>> Hardly a mention in the manual about programming, has anyone managed
>>> to get it to programme  or indeed found any software?
>>
>>Not yet.
>>
>>Thismay be of use to you, posted on 409shop
>>as HOT NEWS ;-)
>>
>> How to change the Channel Step at BAOFENG UV-3R
>>
>>Switch On Radio => Press [U/V] about 3sec, Radio will change to
>>Frequency mode in display. Then press [MENU 9],
>>
>>press [U/V] to enter the STEP, then you can switch the knob to change
>>the Channel Step into: 5/6.25/10/12.5/20/25khz
>>
>>
>>So look slike no need for prog cable.
>>
>>Where did you get yours ?
>
>409 shop....I noticed the step changes, the manual is wrong.

Yes, the CD manual only tells you that there are 12.5 and 25kHz steps -
but you've also got the others.

You can (sometimes) also get a 1MHz step by pressing and holding the
F/ALERT key (not for too long!), and quickly pressing the MENU key. If
the top left 'F' icon comes on, and you can step in 1MHz.

Then press MENU (itself), and you get a scan mode. You kick off the scan
up or down (in 12.5 or 25kHz steps) by turning the tuning knob in the
appropriate direction. Press MENU to stop the scan

To get out into normal 12.5/25kHz click steps, press VOL.

> But the
>repeater offset is the problem, it dosn't save in the memory, just
>uses the offset the radio is set to.

To programme in the OFFSET (say 600kHz) and the SHIFT (+ or -), you need
to assign a channel number to the frequency. The instructions work.

> However the manual states that
>this can be set in the programming software? No alphaneumric display
>either, but with Puxing ect you can set this also with the software
>so maybe.. Its fairly logical to progamme though otherwise. Other cons
>no signal strength meter, but it does have a charging/power socket in
>the radio body...Wouxan take note! Oh and the SMA is female the
>opposite to the other chinese radios. But for the money its brilliant!

I've listened to a local 2m net, and the UV-3R seems pretty sensitive on
its whip. I've also had a quick QSO with a local, about 2 miles away (I
was readable, but not too strong). I'm sure an external aerial would
make a big difference!

Finally, the audio and squelch are very 'fierce'. The no-signal noise is
very loud - even with the volume at minimum. In contrast, the earpiece
audio is very, very quiet (assuming you can actually get it in your
ear!!).

And I still can't get a 1750kHz toneburst.
--
Ian

Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 6:34:49 PM4/28/11
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:22:56 +0100, "Jim Stewart ..."
<james.st...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>
>baofeng means being sick after a bevie in glasgow.....
>

Its a county in China...probably simular to Yorkshire!

Rambo

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Apr 28, 2011, 7:24:14 PM4/28/11
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You're right about the offset, but I'm sure I followed the
instructions earlier..but its fine now.
The DSP is probably responsible for the aggressive squelch/ noise, and
the volume from the speaker/mike is quite low compared to the radio
speaker and yes the volume control is flaky. I can hit all the local
repeaters OK, but swapping the stock aerial for a Nagoya 771 improves
performance greatly (but that applies to every radio I've used it on!)

And I still can't get a 1750kHz toneburst either

And I still think its an absolute bargain.

Andy Foad

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Apr 28, 2011, 10:11:55 PM4/28/11
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On Apr 29, 12:24 am, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
> And I still can't get a 1750kHz toneburst either

Not even bats could detect that toneburst ;-)

lu...@eternal-flames.gov

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Apr 29, 2011, 2:40:54 AM4/29/11
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:24:14 +0100, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org>
wrote:

>And I still think its an absolute bargain.

All of these postings about a radio on UKRA... It just ain't natural
I tell you. :-)

What is the 'feel' of the radio like? The JingTong felt plastic and
a bit cheap (which it was), the Wouxun's are as good as the Japanese
makes.

I might send for one once all you 'Beta' testers have sussed it. ;-)

Nick.

Ian Jackson

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Apr 29, 2011, 3:10:11 AM4/29/11
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In message
<f3a5c3d2-cdea-4b90...@d28g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
Andy Foad <punkb...@googlemail.com> writes

>On Apr 29, 12:24 am, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
>> And I still can't get a 1750kHz toneburst either
>
>Not even bats could detect that toneburst ;-)

That probably explains why I can't hear it.
Problem solved!

The question is, has anyone ever been successful in getting the 1750
HERTZ toneburst?

The other question is, how many repeaters actually need it these days?
--
Ian

Andy Foad

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Apr 29, 2011, 4:00:29 AM4/29/11
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On Apr 29, 7:40 am, l...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:

> All of these postings about a radio on UKRA...  It just ain't natural
> I tell you. :-)

It's just an interlude. We'll soon be back to moaning or blaming
the RSGB for something or other ;-)

> What is the 'feel' of the radio like?    The JingTong felt plastic and
> a bit cheap (which it was), the Wouxun's are as good as the Japanese
> makes.

See here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69p1QKBdZgA

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Andy Foad

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On Apr 29, 8:10 am, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> The other question is, how many repeaters actually need it these days?

Must be 20+ years since I've used a toneburst.

Andy Foad

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On Apr 29, 9:03 am, Chronos <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> You too, eh? At least we know it'll do half duplex now. Tone burst
> isn't an issue and I don't need alphanumeric display. As soon as
> someone mentions the mic/speaker connection pin-out I'm ordering one
> as well ;o)

4 pole 3.5mm jack plug.

Everyone I know of reports that their already owned
speaker mics with this connector works ok.

Ian Jackson

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Andy Foad

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DieSea

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Apr 29, 2011, 4:58:28 AM4/29/11
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"Andy Foad" <punkb...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:22d27036-593a-4a06...@d28g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

>>

Must be 20+ years since I've used a repeater

An invention of the Devil according to Wart

--

DieSea


Rambo

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Apr 29, 2011, 5:13:09 AM4/29/11
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The audio output on a speaker/mic is very low. Tried two now and both
are the same. But my speaker mics are the same size if not bigger than
the radio so that may be not such a problem. Unlike Ian my supplied
earpiece works fine.

Rambo

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Apr 29, 2011, 5:17:13 AM4/29/11
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Build quality is good, It has a solid diecast Chassis. The screen
printing looks cheap and nasty though, and I expect those little
rubber flaps covering the sockets will soon get ripped off in ones
pocket.

Ian Jackson

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Apr 29, 2011, 5:53:14 AM4/29/11
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In message <aa0lr697ndtorsg8i...@4ax.com>, Rambo
<Ra...@thisaintreal.org> writes
>


> Build quality is good, It has a solid diecast Chassis. The screen
>printing looks cheap and nasty though, and I expect those little
>rubber flaps covering the sockets will soon get ripped off in ones
>pocket.

Mine came off immediately I opened them up. Best taken off, and put away
safely.
--
Ian

Ian Jackson

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Apr 29, 2011, 5:57:40 AM4/29/11
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In message <b30lr61gqfb8pe55h...@4ax.com>, Rambo
<Ra...@thisaintreal.org> writes

>On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:38:28 -0700 (PDT), Andy Foad
><punkb...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 29, 9:06 am, Andy Foad <punkbisc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 29, 9:03 am, Chronos <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > You too, eh? At least we know it'll do half duplex now. Tone burst
>>> > isn't an issue and I don't need alphanumeric display. As soon as
>>> > someone mentions the mic/speaker connection pin-out I'm ordering one
>>> > as well ;o)
>>>
>>> 4 pole 3.5mm jack plug.
>>>
>>> Everyone I know of reports that their already owned
>>> speaker mics with this connector works ok.
>>
>>Pin out here in this thread:
>>
>>http://www.transmission1.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=18132&sid=bec
>>25d68c00855b18a507399638fc2c9&start=75
>
Again, a very useful link.
It also gives another:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UV-3R/

>The audio output on a speaker/mic is very low. Tried two now and both
>are the same. But my speaker mics are the same size if not bigger than
>the radio so that may be not such a problem. Unlike Ian my supplied
>earpiece works fine.

I'll try it again. The main problem is that my ear would appear to be
completely different from your average Chinese ear, and I have
difficulty getting the earpiece in properly!
--
Ian

Orestes

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Apr 29, 2011, 6:20:00 AM4/29/11
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Interesting that it comes supplied with two antennae, one for VHF and
one for UHF. You'd have thought it would be cheaper to supply a single
dual bander.


Brian Reay

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"Orestes" <ore...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:4laoti....@news.alt.net...

> Interesting that it comes supplied with two antennae, one for VHF and one
> for UHF. You'd have thought it would be cheaper to supply a single dual
> bander.

Word is that later ones will be supplied with a single antenna. What "later"
means isn't clear.

I'm considering one of these for the XYL, she likes her Wouxun but the
Baofeng is even smaller. I also fancy one for the "shirt pocket", a Ł35 (inc
p&p), it seems too cheap to ignore.

Programming SW is free and the i/f seems to be the same is the FT60, which
means I have one.

I may even get a few for the school radio club, if I can get a "lock down"
program like the one available for the Wouxun.

--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net


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Andy Foad

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On Apr 29, 12:23 pm, Chronos <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> Andy Foad wrote:
> > Pin out here in this thread:
>
> Thanks Andy. That's most helpful.

Becoming a habit I must break ;-)

Since the Baofeng is a Yaesu ripoff, I wonder
if it will take the Yaesu empty battery case
as seen here:

http://www.radioworld.co.uk/catalog/fba37-alkaline-battery-case-p-5705.html

That would be most useful.

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Andy Foad

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On Apr 29, 12:40 pm, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 04:26:44 -0700 (PDT)

>
> Andy Foad <punkbisc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Since the Baofeng is a Yaesu ripoff, I wonder
> > if it will take the Yaesu empty battery case
> > as seen here:
>
> Note that the FBA-37 won't fit if the NiMH cells are at the AA cell
> diameter maximum limit, it took me a while to find cells that fit and
> even then it's a close thing.

Is that won't fit on a Yaesu VX3R, or or you saying that
you've tried an FBA37 on the Baofeng ?

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Andy Foad

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On Apr 29, 12:47 pm, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 04:43:11 -0700 (PDT)

>
> Andy Foad <punkbisc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 29, 12:40 pm, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 04:26:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > > Andy Foad <punkbisc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > Since the Baofeng is a Yaesu ripoff, I wonder
> > > > if it will take the Yaesu empty battery case
> > > > as seen here:
>
> > > Note that the FBA-37 won't fit if the NiMH cells are at the AA cell
> > > diameter maximum limit, it took me a while to find cells that fit and
> > > even then it's a close thing.
>
> > Is that won't fit on a Yaesu VX3R, or or you saying that
> > you've tried an FBA37 on the Baofeng ?
>
> VX-3E, but I assume that the Baofeng is made to the same dimensions.

Are you in a position of having a look to see if it fits ?

> The cells rest against the metal chassis and it takes a lot of force to
> get the tabs under the top of the casing if they are too large.

Yeah common problem. I once did the daft thing
of thinking I could peel the plastic covering off the
cells to make them thinner.

One of my M3 moments I think ;-))

Rambo

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Apr 29, 2011, 11:54:04 AM4/29/11
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Intersting to note the battery is very simular to the Nokia BL5c
phone battery same dimensions but slighty fatter, but with reversed
polarity and larger differently spaced terminals.. ..Both made in
china. The Nokia is 1020 mAh as opposed to the Baofeng which is 1500
mAh..which probably accounts for extra girth!

Ian Jackson

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Apr 29, 2011, 12:26:27 PM4/29/11
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In message <27nlr6pteer6gpvqs...@4ax.com>, Rambo
<Ra...@thisaintreal.org> writes

That's interesting.

If you need a replacement, presumably the Nokia battery will be cheaper
and more readily available. When I put the VX-3E battery in, I noticed
that it wasn't a very tight fit. I'm sure that with a little ingenuity,
you could 're-jig' the Nokia battery contacts to suit (both physically
and electrically).
--
Ian

Rambo

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Apr 29, 2011, 12:42:10 PM4/29/11
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Yes the nokia battery will fit and the voltage is the same, but its a
tight fit like the Baofeng, not much room to mod the terminals , but
its possible I think. The nokia battery sells for as little as 6 quid
on-line, but I bet a Baofeng won't be much more and a bigger capacity

Ian Jackson

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Apr 29, 2011, 12:54:12 PM4/29/11
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Next question:

Has anyone got the 'Restore to Factory Defaults' to work? It's on p9,
immediately after the 'Tone Calling' bit (which, as we know, also
doesn't work either).

Could it be that those two sections are the figment of someone's
imagination?
--
Ian

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Andy Foad

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On Apr 30, 7:45 am, l...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>
> So you don't know anybody who owns a Wouxun/Puxing etc.?  :-)
>
> Nick.

I have 3 Wouxuns. 2.5mm jack plug + 3.5mm k-type.

No good on a Baofeng ;-)

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Andy Foad

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On Apr 30, 7:51 am, l...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:17:13 +0100, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Build quality is good, It has a solid diecast Chassis. The screen
> >printing looks cheap and nasty though, and I expect those little
> >rubber flaps covering the sockets will soon get ripped off in ones
> >pocket.
>
> They're a bleedin' nuisance on Wouxuns too.  

Never foubd a problem with the flaps on the Wouxuns,
except sometimes when they catch on the carry
case. But then I find it with most rigs too.

lu...@eternal-flames.gov

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Apr 30, 2011, 5:30:20 AM4/30/11
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No... Pity that. :-( More bleedin' money!

Nick.

lu...@eternal-flames.gov

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Apr 30, 2011, 5:32:54 AM4/30/11
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With a speaker-mike in the flap sticks out at an angle sufficient to
catch on most things.

Nick.

Andy Foad

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Apr 30, 2011, 6:39:03 AM4/30/11
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On Apr 30, 10:30 am, l...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:

> No...  Pity that.  :-(   More bleedin' money!

Tight sod!

Try this for about GBP£7

http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=102846
http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=102220

Or if you wanna get flash

http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=103776

I've got one of these too, PTT a bit stiff but deffo robust.

A lot of these mics look cheapo, but are actually
darn good quality.

I have about 3 or 4 of them of various types from
409shop, and all excellent.

Orestes

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On 2011-04-30 11:39:03 +0100, Andy Foad said:

>
> Or if you wanna get flash
>
> http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=103776
>
> I've got one of these too, PTT a bit stiff but deffo robust.


I've not seen the point of those (other than perhaps better received
audio from a bigger speaker) - having a mic with the antenna on it is
fine if you've got a housebrick of a radio attached to your belt and
threatening to pull down your trousers - but in this case, the radio
itself is probably the same size as the mic! :-)

Andy Foad

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Apr 30, 2011, 8:24:31 AM4/30/11
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Wait till you've got one of these mics:

http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=103950

I've got one. Size of a housebrick,weighs as much as a housebrick
and made like tank.

You'd never think so from the piccy ;-)

Damn good mic though. Rx'd audio through the larger
speaker makes a ten fold improvement on my VX7R.

Andy Foad

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Apr 30, 2011, 4:22:23 PM4/30/11
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Arrived at last.

BUILD QUALITY.
Excellent. One small quible was the way the Boafeng
badge was stuck on the case. They smudged a bit of
glue. I might take mine off.

MENUS
All the correct steps are menu selectable, no software
required.

In fact it's all there, apart from being able to select narrow
deviation and the battery save mode. None of which
are of any consequence to me.

GENERAL
Dead easy to use really once familiar with a few key presses.
Band 2 FM is good quality and sensitive.
VHF/UHF rx sensitivity is very good.
Decent display. Easy to program memories.
Repeater shifts and tones no problem. Any tone, any offset.
Tx audio is good. Rx audio is good.

Rig arrived with English hardcopy manual dated 15 April 2011.
Not a bad manual.

Charger came with euro style with the two blades and an
adapter to convert to UK mains socket. Ok I suppose.
Connector to pretty standard. Easy to rig up your own
power source if required.

My existing speaker mics with 4 pole 3.5mm jack plugs
work fine in them. Don't try using a standard mono or stereo
connector for headphones though. Rig just goes into tx mode.
Just chop off the plug if you want and put a 4 pole in the
end if required and all ok.

The biggest surprise was the performance of the two
tiny antennas. Dont be fooled by them, they bloody
well work superbly, much to my amazement. If you find
you tend to only work one band then you can't beat
the size performance figures.

PROGRAMMING SOFTWARE TEST
I tried to use my cable meant for my VX7R.
It didn't work, but then again did I need it in the
end - nope.

Alas this rig is no longer in my possesion.

SHE has nicked it for herself,apparently it fits
well into her handbag, so I suppose I better
get ordering another for myself;-)

gareth

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"Andy Foad" <punkb...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Arrived at last.
> BUILD QUALITY.
> Excellent. One small quible was the way the Boafeng
> badge was stuck on the case. They smudged a bit of
> glue. I might take mine off.

Does this rig represent the end of CB-types being ripped-off by
the conmen (but not the bona-fide traders!) who advertise in BadCon,
now that it is very apparent that even a CB-type 2M rig is only slightly
less complicated than a GSM mobile phone that can be purchased
outright for only a tenner?


Rambo

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No doubt that for £35 its going to be a big seller. Anything that
helps reduce the cost and give value for money can only benefit the
hobby.
Just look how many Woxuans you see knocking about these days. Each one
represents a lost sale for the Japanese manufacturers. Once the
chinese expand their range of products things may get interesting.

gareth

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"Rambo" <Ra...@thisaintreal.org> wrote in message
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So what actually is it? a 3-channel Xtal-controlled FM rig?


Andy Foad

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Only thing I can't make it do is rhe 1750Hz
tone burst. But then who cares ?

Andy Foad

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May 1, 2011, 5:27:13 AM5/1/11
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On May 1, 10:01 am, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
>
> No doubt that for £35 its going to be a big seller. Anything that
> helps reduce the cost and give value for money can only benefit the
> hobby.
> Just look how many Woxuans you see knocking about these days. Each one
> represents a lost sale for the Japanese manufacturers. Once the
> chinese expand their range of products things may get interesting.

At the end of the day, a fully functioning dual bander
for peanuts, or in the case of Wouxuns, two bags of
peanuts is all one really needs.

Seems daft paying all the extra money for having
a poor wideband rx and erm..thats about all you get
extra from the major manufacturers.

What scope is there for the Japanese ?

- Lower prices.
- Same prices but get off their butts and innovate.
(Why can't I send an SMS yet on an HT ? Why don't they
spend tuppence on packet modem IC as standard yet,
why no BFO for gen cov rx, why not include AM tx
like the VX7R, which is actually a very pleasant operating
experience).
- Pull out of the HT market all together
- Pull out of amateur radio altogether.
- Do nothing and their business dies.

I was looking through various stuff on the Nevada
site earlier. You can't even purchase a branded
desk mic for £250, or even an external speaker
for less than £70. (Same style as the <£10 PMR
rig style speakers).

£300 for an ATU with £10 worth of broadcast variables.

These prices are nuts!

Ian Jackson

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May 1, 2011, 6:00:34 AM5/1/11
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In message
<d4128532-db2a-4c23...@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Andy Foad <punkb...@googlemail.com> writes

>Only thing I can't make it do is rhe 1750Hz
>tone burst. But then who cares ?

Like Wlat, I'm not a great repeater* enthusiast, so I've lost track of
what the situation is regarding the toneburst. Can I assume that it's
not used any more (anywhere)? I've never used CTCSS before, but it seems
to work (well, at least I can key up the Amersham repeater - which is
probably the only one within range, now that GB3WL has gone QRT).
*Only really used when on holiday.

Have you got the restore to factory defaults to work? I haven't.

Have you found the serendipitous 1MHz steps function (which I mentioned
a couple of days ago)?
--
Ian

Andy Foad

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May 1, 2011, 6:31:49 AM5/1/11
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On May 1, 11:00 am, Ian Jackson

<ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Only thing I can't make it do is rhe 1750Hz
> >tone burst. But then who cares ?
>
> Like Wlat, I'm not a great repeater* enthusiast, so I've lost track of
> what the situation is regarding the toneburst. Can I assume that it's
> not used any more (anywhere)?

Dunno about elsewhere, but these days
I don't think I've come across any repeater
that DOESN'T use CTCSS.

Most I think are dual standard, toneburst and ctcss.
I know of only once CCSS only system, and that's
local to me on 70cm.

Easy to whistle up a repeater anyway if it's toneburst.

> I've never used CTCSS before, but it seems
> to work (well, at least I can key up the Amersham repeater - which is
> probably the only one within range, now that GB3WL has gone QRT).

I miss Charlie, or was it EL ?

I think he may be mentally related to someone else
on this NG ;-)


> Have you got the restore to factory defaults to work? I haven't.

No. I did try it before I'd programmed the rig, and it didn't
work. I presume nothing changed because it was at
default settings anyway.

Not tried it sincde, because if it does work then
I've just wasted an hour wiping the memories
I've just programmed ;-)


> Have you found the serendipitous 1MHz steps function (which I mentioned
> a couple of days ago)?

Yep.
It's in the manual.
(All my Yaesu's and Standard rigs had the same function too.)

Only function I've yet to play with is the DSP thingy.
I have noticed that when I move the handy around
and the signal varies, there is a monentary period
of increased noise then it's like some noise
cancelling has taken place to reduce white noise.

Great ! A £35 rig that includes a function the same
as my £1000 Kenyaecom's.

I do miss not having a roger beep though ;-)

Also, I note that if you press and hold the F/A
button in for a while, it goes to permanent TX
with an "open" mic. These sort of functions
are normally marketed (cough) as BabyMonitor
functions or BUG functions.

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Andy Foad

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May 1, 2011, 6:49:53 AM5/1/11
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On May 1, 11:39 am, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> I think GB3AV doesn't have a CTCSS decoder fitted, but I'm not sure.
>
> Ah, yes I am:
>
> http://www.avrg.org.uk/index.php/gb3av-voice-repeater

Oh well, a quick whistle down the mic should do it then.

DieSea

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May 1, 2011, 7:51:12 AM5/1/11
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"Andy Foad" <punkb...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:7dcfe14e-9b54-4023...@28g2000yqu.goo> > Ah, yes I am:
>

Oh well, a quick whistle down the mic should do it then.

>>

Used to in the "GOOD OLD DAYS"

Now "most" of the repeaters have tightened up the filters

OR

Put a time notch for the tone burst

PS

Haven't forgotten , they're still away towing their sheds

Just like the _Blessed_Bishop_towing his _Tabernacle_ somewhere

--

DieSea

Ian Jackson

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May 1, 2011, 8:01:33 AM5/1/11
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In message
<e5dd960c-b239-430c...@p13g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Andy Foad <punkb...@googlemail.com> writes

>On May 1, 11:00 am, Ian Jackson
><ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>

>
>
>> Have you found the serendipitous 1MHz steps function (which I mentioned
>> a couple of days ago)?
>
>Yep.
>It's in the manual.
>(All my Yaesu's and Standard rigs had the same function too.)
>

Noted. I looked, but didn't spot it. it. I'll have another look.
--
Ian

Brian Howie

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May 2, 2011, 1:47:53 AM5/2/11
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In message <k0LBWjCT...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk>, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> writes
>In message
><f3a5c3d2-cdea-4b90...@d28g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
>Andy Foad <punkb...@googlemail.com> writes
>>On Apr 29, 12:24 am, Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
>>> And I still can't get a 1750kHz toneburst either
>>
>>Not even bats could detect that toneburst ;-)
>
>That probably explains why I can't hear it.
>Problem solved!
>
>The question is, has anyone ever been successful in getting the 1750
>HERTZ toneburst?
>
>The other question is, how many repeaters actually need it these days?

I thought it was needed to stop the repeaters switching on due to noise
bursts. Otherwise it could just use the presence of a carrier.
Repeater logic, like the camel looked like it had been designed by a
committee.

Brian ( waiting for the K)

--
Brian Howie

Andy Foad

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Ian Jackson

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May 2, 2011, 5:54:43 AM5/2/11
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In message
<34b9eb7e-25a4-461b...@c41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Andy Foad <punkb...@googlemail.com> writes

>http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=105833
>
>Programming cables for a tenner.

But just what do you really need to program into it?

BTW, I've now found the sneakily hidden reference to the 1MHz steps
("F+[DIAL]", on p7). Actually, an "F+ any of the row of buttons" works
too.

I've also managed (only once) to do a Factory Default re-set. It appears
that you have to do this when the unit is switched off (not made clear).

As for getting a 'baby monitor mode' if you hold down the F/A for a
while.... No, I still just get the warbling alert noise.
--
Ian

Andy Foad

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On May 2, 10:54 am, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> >http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=105833
>
> >Programming cables for a tenner.
>
> But just what do you really need to program into it?

I agree. I sent it for info only, for the sake of
completeness.

> I've also managed (only once) to do a Factory Default re-set. It appears
> that you have to do this when the unit is switched off (not made clear).

Aha, that's useful to know. Thanks.


> As for getting a 'baby monitor mode' if you hold down the F/A for a
> while.... No, I still just get the warbling alert noise.

Deffo no warble noise here.
I hate features like that anyway.

It's annoying when these things accidentally get set
off causing QRM on other rigs, or it encourages
idiots to deliberatly QRM others. Just look at
how they get misued on the PMR446 channels.

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