UK Voting accepting nominators with RFC-non compliant email addresses.

[Paul Cummins]

As it has been demonstrated that the MX for chiark does not accept
<postmaster> as a valid address, and will not exchange mail with anyone
without breaching the Computer Misuse Act, can UK Voting and/or the
votetaker confirm that moninees or supporters with Chiark email addresses
will not be accepted?

It is surely necessary and correct to deny this criminal organisation the
oxygen of publicity (sorry Maggie)

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[Tony]

In uk.net.news.management, uset...@stedtelephone.invalid (Paul Cummins)
wrote:

>As it has been demonstrated that the MX for chiark does not accept
><postmaster> as a valid address, and will not exchange mail with anyone
>without breaching the Computer Misuse Act, can UK Voting and/or the
>votetaker confirm that moninees or supporters with Chiark email addresses
>will not be accepted?
>
>It is surely necessary and correct to deny this criminal organisation the
>oxygen of publicity (sorry Maggie)

Paul, really, just top. Firstly, if you want to talk to UK Voting, try
mailing them. Secondly, just stop, please.
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[Paul Cummins]

We were about to embark at Dover, when to...@darkstorm.invalid (Tony) came
up to me and whispered:

> Paul, really, just top. Firstly, if you want to talk to UK
> Voting, try mailing them. Secondly, just stop, please.

I don't see anyone asking Jackson to stop... but it is him in the wrong.

[Tony]

In uk.net.news.management, uset...@stedtelephone.invalid (Paul Cummins)
wrote:

>We were about to embark at Dover, when to...@darkstorm.invalid (Tony) came
>up to me and whispered:
>
>> Paul, really, just top. Firstly, if you want to talk to UK
>> Voting, try mailing them. Secondly, just stop, please.
>
>I don't see anyone asking Jackson to stop

Other than you, and the half a dozen other people who have already
commented on SAUCE in the last 5 days? Were they not requests to stop
then?

Paul - you do this, you pick a spot and you pick and pick until it's
bleeding and you don't realise you're as injured as everyone else. Just
leave it, you're getting increasingly erratic.

[Percy Picacity]

On 2012-09-09 13:35:00 +0000, Paul Cummins said:

> We were about to embark at Dover, when to...@darkstorm.invalid (Tony) came
> up to me and whispered:
>
>> Paul, really, just top. Firstly, if you want to talk to UK
>> Voting, try mailing them. Secondly, just stop, please.
>
> I don't see anyone asking Jackson to stop... but it is him in the wrong.

Phew! Not only does my MTA accept mail to <postmaster> but my email
client is willing (albeit reluctantly} to send it! Didn't have to
learn smtp! And presumably, having passed that test of RFC-compliant
virtue I don't have to await extradition to the Land of the Free with
so much trepidation.

--

Percy Picacity

[Paul Cummins]

We were about to embark at Dover, when k...@under.the.invalid (Percy
Picacity) came up to me and whispered:

> Not only does my MTA accept mail to <postmaster> but my email
> client is willing (albeit reluctantly} to send it! Didn't
> have to learn smtp!

Mine (Mailtraq) is fully compliant as well.

This is because I don't think I'm the author of dpkg when I'm not, and I
don't use my own abilities to write my MTA, just to manage it.

(It's called Schadenfraude, folks, not big, not clever)

[Percy Picacity]

On 2012-09-09 15:44:00 +0000, Paul Cummins said:

> We were about to embark at Dover, when k...@under.the.invalid (Percy
> Picacity) came up to me and whispered:
>
>> Not only does my MTA accept mail to <postmaster> but my email
>> client is willing (albeit reluctantly} to send it! Didn't
>> have to learn smtp!
>
> Mine (Mailtraq) is fully compliant as well.
>
> This is because I don't think I'm the author of dpkg when I'm not, and I
> don't use my own abilities to write my MTA, just to manage it.
>
> (It's called Schadenfraude, folks, not big, not clever)

Is that your pun? it would be you feeling the Schadenfreude, but I
presume you are referring to an ersatz variety?

--

Percy Picacity

[Paul Cummins]

We were about to embark at Dover, when k...@under.the.invalid (Percy
Picacity) came up to me and whispered:

> it would be you feeling the Schadenfreude, but I
> presume you are referring to an ersatz variety?

Must... Buy... New... German... Translation... Software :-(

[Barry Salter]

On 09/09/2012 12:55, Paul Cummins wrote:
> As it has been demonstrated that the MX for chiark does not accept
> <postmaster> as a valid address, and will not exchange mail with anyone
> without breaching the Computer Misuse Act, can UK Voting and/or the
> votetaker confirm that moninees or supporters with Chiark email addresses
> will not be accepted?

The requirements for a nomination to be accepted are exactly the same as
for a vote, namely "Can the votetaker send you an e-mail without it
bouncing?" and "Can the votetaker validate the nomination/vote?"

Policing matters of RFC compliance is *NOT* part of the votetaking
organisation's remit. Indeed, I refer you to paragraph 1.2.2 of RFC1122:
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send."

Or, to put it another way, I am not prepared to be dragged into your
dispute with the Chiarkians. (Is that even a word? It is now. - Ed)

Cheers,

Barry

[Paul Cummins]

We were about to embark at Dover, when sal...@nospam.demon.co.uk (Barry
Salter) came up to me and whispered:

> The requirements for a nomination to be accepted are exactly
> the same as for a vote, namely "Can the votetaker send you an
> e-mail without it bouncing?" and "Can the votetaker validate
> the nomination/vote?"

Position accepted - thanks, Barry