Coast - Carrickfergus Salt mine
Sofa - Spud
from this deep salt mine in Carrickfergus. I never knew that , plus 20%
of it is exported to the US .
Learnt something from the TV tonight
Jeff Lawrence
news:1164314778.3...@45g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
Yes, Coast is a great series and full of interesting little facts.
And it seems it's in my old neck of the woods next week -
Newcastle to Hull - featuring the Middlesbrough
Transporter Bridge. It's never off the bloody telly!
Actually Coast is another example of a BBC success that
is then re-made by other countries. Apparently a number
of countries are planning their own version including
Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria and Bolivia.
Cheers
Jeff
Anton Gijsen
Can we have some money off the licence fee from the BBC flogging the
rights, please?
Sofa - Spud
Andorra??
Rich Mackin
Vatican City!
--
*** http://www.railwayscene.co.uk/ ***
Rich Mackin (rich-at-richmackin-co-uk)
MSN: richmackin-at-hotmail-dot-com
Jeff Lawrence
>> Yes, Coast is a great series and full of interesting little facts.
>> And it seems it's in my old neck of the woods next week -
>> Newcastle to Hull - featuring the Middlesbrough
>> Transporter Bridge. It's never off the bloody telly!
>> Actually Coast is another example of a BBC success that
>> is then re-made by other countries. Apparently a number
>> of countries are planning their own version including
>> Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria and Bolivia.
>> Cheers
>> Jeff
>
> Andorra??
Yes, that's right. You've obviously read the same article
I did.
Cheers
Jeff
Tricky Dicky
"Jeff Lawrence" <jeff.l...@orange.nl> wrote in message
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"You can't sail a boat to Bolivia"
Tricky
Jeff Lawrence
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> "You can't sail a boat to Bolivia"
Actually you can, and I have done it. Well, I didn't sail it
myself but I've been on a boat that sailed to Bolivia.
I started off in Puno on the Peruvian side of Lake
Titicaca and we sailed across to Copacabana in
Bolivia. I didn't see any showgirls named Lola though
unfortunately.
Cheers
Jeff
Mike Swift
- Spud <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> writes
You also learned that they don't have winters in Wales, it's an E.U.
conspiracy, leave them of the map of Europe and don't send them any road
salt, you've got to laugh.
Mike
--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
Mike Swift
<jeff.l...@orange.nl> writes
>Yes, Coast is a great series and full of interesting little facts. And
>it seems it's in my old neck of the woods next week - Newcastle to Hull
>- featuring the Middlesbrough Transporter Bridge.
I thought Oz had sold that to Arizona.
> It's never off the
>bloody telly! Actually Coast is another example of a BBC success that is
>then re-made by other countries. Apparently a number of countries are
>planning their own version including Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria
>and Bolivia.
The last series treated the Yorkshire coast very badly, I hope next
week's episode makes up for it.
awa...@yahoo.com
well dont rely on it as an answer in a pub quiz thats all Id say, Im
sure theres a rock salt mine in Chesire that claims the same thing, and
I know theres a place near Malaga in Spain, that claims it provides all
the rock salt for UK roads.(yeah I know they probably tell the German
tourists it provides all the rock salt for Germany as well)
awavey
michael adams
<awa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Indeed there was a salt mine on the telly the other week. Titchmarsh
on the History of Britain repeats on UKTV History. They even let him a
have a drive of the excavator and he rubbed his wet finger on the wall
and then tasted the salt. I think he said something similar.
michael adams
...
>
Mike
<mike....@yeton.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <1164314778.3...@45g2000cws.googlegroups.com>, Sofa
>- Spud <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> writes
>>How brilliant is that? all the rocksalt we use on the icy roads comes
>>from this deep salt mine in Carrickfergus. I never knew that , plus 20%
>>of it is exported to the US .
>>
>>Learnt something from the TV tonight
>
>You also learned that they don't have winters in Wales, it's an E.U.
>conspiracy, leave them of the map of Europe and don't send them any road
>salt, you've got to laugh.
One word.
Cheshire
--
Jeremiah Harbottle
> well dont rely on it as an answer in a pub quiz thats all Id say, Im
> sure theres a rock salt mine in Chesire that claims the same thing, and
> I know theres a place near Malaga in Spain, that claims it provides all
> the rock salt for UK roads.(yeah I know they probably tell the German
> tourists it provides all the rock salt for Germany as well)
Chesire's famous for its salt mines, although most of them have now closed.
Darren Jones
"Jeremiah Harbottle" <wib...@wibble.com> wrote in message
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in an earlier episode and i believe Graham Norton has some interest in
Marmite mining but i`m not sure where that is.
SteveW
Switzerland have a Coast ?
--
Steve (3)
Jeff Lawrence
> Switzerland have a Coast ?
Not yet, but give this global warming a few more years
and it may well do in the future.
Cheers
Jeff
Jeff Lawrence
Actually, although I'm still not totally convinced by the global
warming theory, I was wondering just how these melting ice
caps would affect the landscape.
I found this site, I'm not sure how accurate it is but it's interesting
to play about it anyway. http://flood.firetree.net/
Apparently the sea level would only have to rise only 1 metre for
my home to be underwater!
Cheers
Jeff
Sofa - Spud
Well the next time I have a tall glass of squash filled to the brim
with ice I shall have to be careful that when the ice melts the level
in the glass doesn't rise up and over the edge - NOT.
Jeff Lawrence
> Well the next time I have a tall glass of squash filled to the brim
> with ice I shall have to be careful that when the ice melts the level
> in the glass doesn't rise up and over the edge - NOT.
But it's not melting sea ice that would be the problem. If they melt
the simply replace the water already there. It's the land ice, like
in Antartica, that's the big problem because that's extra water.
It would be like you having some ice cubes placed in a funnel above
your glass of squash and then letting them melt. What do you
think would happen to the level in the glass then?
Cheers
Jeff
Jeff Lawrence
Or alternatively filling your glass with squash and THEN adding
the ice cubes.
Cheers
Jeff
Norman Wells
<sj_w...@nothotmail.com> writes
>> Actually Coast is another example of a BBC success that
>> is then re-made by other countries. Apparently a number
>> of countries are planning their own version including
>> Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria and Bolivia.
>
>Switzerland have a Coast ?
>
<whisper>
I think that's rather the point.
</whisper>
Switzerland nevertheless does have a navy.
--
Norman Wells
Jeff Lawrence
> Switzerland nevertheless does have a navy.
So does Bolivia. Now based at Lake Titicaca after Bolivia
lost it's coastline after defeat by Chile in the War of the
Pacific. They keep asking for it back every year but so
far Chile has refused.
Cheer
Jeff
Sofa - Spud
I know I know I was taking the micky -but I have heard such a lot of
crap on the TV and radio about this and when they go on about the
"north pole melting and the sea rising " I just think of ice cubes. The
problem is they know so little about our climate and have only
accurately measured it for a 100 yrs or less plus the fact that
everyman and his dog feels they can comment on it on the TV that the
message if there is one is mixed with such crap.
That said Jeff, living in the nederlands what do you expect? a few
feet of water and most of the nederlands dissappears , I'd have thought
they'd have been importing rubble to build up the level of the land for
the last 40 years!
What you need is somewhere nice and dry , sunny too - the Seychelles
perhaps:)
Jeff Lawrence
> I know I know I was taking the micky -but I have heard such a lot of
> crap on the TV and radio about this and when they go on about the
> "north pole melting and the sea rising " I just think of ice cubes. The
> problem is they know so little about our climate and have only
> accurately measured it for a 100 yrs or less plus the fact that
> everyman and his dog feels they can comment on it on the TV that the
> message if there is one is mixed with such crap.
Exactly, that's why I'm a bit sceptical about it myself. There's been
similar doom-mongering for many years. The world is getting too cold,
the world is getting too hot, the world will run out of food, mankind
will
end up destroying themselves, etc, etc, etc.
> That said Jeff, living in the nederlands what do you expect? a few
> feet of water and most of the nederlands dissappears , I'd have thought
> they'd have been importing rubble to build up the level of the land for
> the last 40 years!
There are quite substantial defences against the sea now which began
after a terrible flood in the south of the country in 1953 which killed
many
people.
Up where I am there are natural defences consisted of huge sand dunes
and further north more huge stone walls. I have no idea how safe
against
a tsunami or large increase in sea level or something though.
Hopefully these walls won't spring a leak as Hans Brinker isn't around
to
stick his finger in any holes now. I guess I'll have to do it instead!
Cheers
Jeff
John Rowland
> I found this site, I'm not sure how accurate it is but it's
> interesting to play about it anyway. http://flood.firetree.net/
> Apparently the sea level would only have to rise only 1 metre for
> my home to be underwater!
No, that site shows that with a one metre rise your home would be below sea
level. Since approximately half of the Netherlands is below sea level now,
this shouldn't come as a surprise. There is every reason to believe that the
Dutch government will be keeping your home dry even if the sea rises one
metre. You might know the Dutch saying "God made the world, but the Dutch
made Holland".
G Bell
As are: San Marino, Luxembourg, Moldova, Macedonia and Andorra.
Graham
G Bell
>Indeed there was a salt mine on the telly the other week. Titchmarsh
>on the History of Britain repeats on UKTV History. They even let him a
>have a drive of the excavator and he rubbed his wet finger on the wall
>and then tasted the salt. I think he said something similar.
The workies probably queued up to piss against the wall that morning.
Graham
Sofa - Spud
But would that make it more salty? Or less?
Jeff Lawrence
> >Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria and Bolivia.
> >Cheers
>
> As are: San Marino, Luxembourg, Moldova, Macedonia and Andorra.
OK, so most of you have spotted that all these countries are
land-locked but there are only two that are doubly land-locked
in that they are surrounded by land-locked countries.
They are Liechtenstein and Uzbekistan.
Cheers
Jeff
Sofa - Spud
I've been to Lichenstein - the wife got stung by a wasp whilst we had
tea
Jeff Lawrence
> I've been to Lichenstein - the wife got stung by a wasp whilst we had
> tea
That's the effect of being doubly landlocked. It drives wasps nuts
apparently.
When it gets to about tea-time they just go off on a huge stinging
spree.
I hear it's the same in Uzbekistan too so be wary all those who may
travel
there in the future. Remember to take your wasp protection with you.
Cheers
Jeff
Jeff Lawrence
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>>Switzerland nevertheless does have a navy.
>and won the last Americas Cup.
And they're not even in the Americas! Bolivia
on the other hand....
Cheers
Jeff
Jeff Lawrence
>Brown trousers are selling well in Friesland.
Yes, but brown trousers have always sold well in
Friesland. Friesians have crap fashion taste. Even
worse than the rest of the Netherlands.
Cheers
Jeff
Jeff Lawrence
news:Pine.LNX.4.61.06...@cube.home.local...
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Sofa - Spud wrote:
>
>> I've been to Lichenstein - the wife got stung by a wasp whilst we had
>> tea
>
No, but there's a sting in the tale.
Cheers
Jeff
Sofa - Spud
Liam Gretton wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Martin wrote:
>
> > The dunes in Katwijk and Noordwijk are several metres lower than they
> > should be, compared to elsewhere along the coast, so that the
> > tourists can admire the sea.
>
> And thank god! If they hadn't been kept down, we'd have no view of the sea
> at work. As it is we can only just get a glimpse from the top floor.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yd8eaq
>
> --
Look at the sea there - you can see it drawing the sand away , left to
its own evices it would have those dunes down in a short while and
deposit them elsewhere.
Jeff Lawrence
news:Pine.LNX.4.61.06...@cube.home.local...
>
>> The dunes in Katwijk and Noordwijk are several metres lower than they
>> should be, compared to elsewhere along the coast, so that the
>> tourists can admire the sea.
>
> And thank god! If they hadn't been kept down, we'd have no view of the sea
> at work. As it is we can only just get a glimpse from the top floor.
Luckily I have quite a bit more dune protection between my house (middle,
far right) and the sea
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&om=0&z=13&ll=52.405875,4.572201&spn=0.075192,0.159645
BTW, do you have any idea what this might be in Noordwijk?
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&z=15&ll=52.248351,4.435644&spn=0.018865,0.039911
Cheers
Jeff
neil h
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Sofa - Spud wrote:
>
>> I've been to Lichenstein - the wife got stung by a wasp whilst we had
>> tea
>
>
--
neil h.
Jeff Lawrence
news:4sor93F...@mid.individual.net...
No, it was her decision to have tea.
Cheers
Jeff
Nick Austin
<ne...@binliner.demon.nl> wrote:
>And thank god! If they hadn't been kept down, we'd have no view of the sea
>at work. As it is we can only just get a glimpse from the top floor.
>
Just along the coast from you is this:
http://tinyurl.com/y9p2v4
What is it?
Nick.
Sofa - Spud
That looks weird - is there any form of military antennae there or
indutrial plant? Its right in the middle of a housing estate . Best
thing jeff is to get up off the pc and drive over there and take a
look.
Look snappy as my tea will be ready soon!
Jeff Lawrence
news:v1eem2dqpniblndlq...@4ax.com...
After a bit of searching I've found out it's the DPO (Defensie Pijpleiding
Organisatie or
Defensive Pipeline Organisation) which supplies fuel to the military amongst
other things.
http://www.globe.be/pe/peb/enpeb04.htm
Cheers
Jeff
Sofa - Spud
Is that right in the middle of a housing estate?
Jeff Lawrence
news:1164394589.9...@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Is that right in the middle of a housing estate?
I've no idea, never been there. But there seems to be
a school and a chinese takeaway in the same street
according to Google.
Cheers
Jeff
Sofa - Spud
Its really clear on google earth but I'd have thought in the best
interests of the group and better anglo dutch relations you'd have
hopped on your bike and nipped down there and taken a look on our
behalf!
Jeff Lawrence
> Its really clear on google earth but I'd have thought in the best
> interests of the group and better anglo dutch relations you'd have
> hopped on your bike and nipped down there and taken a look on our
> behalf!
Maybe I'll pop down there over the weekend, it's not that far from me
although not on my bike!
I'm curious myself now. I'd take photos but I might get suspected
of being a terrorist or something!
Cheers
Jeff
Mike Swift
<nos...@nospam.com> writes
>>You also learned that they don't have winters in Wales, it's an E.U.
>>conspiracy, leave them of the map of Europe and don't send them any road
>>salt, you've got to laugh.
>
>One word.
>
>Cheshire
I'm sure we'd all like Cheshire to vanish but that's another thread, I
know they get salt from Cheshire, I was trying, and failing, to be
amusing.
Mike
--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
Sofa - Spud
Mike Swift wrote:
> In article <3fjcm2djq5ihov441...@4ax.com>, Mike
> <nos...@nospam.com> writes
> >>You also learned that they don't have winters in Wales, it's an E.U.
> >>conspiracy, leave them of the map of Europe and don't send them any road
> >>salt, you've got to laugh.
> >
> >One word.
> >
> >Cheshire
>
> I'm sure we'd all like Cheshire to vanish but that's another thread, I
> know they get salt from Cheshire, I was trying, and failing, to be
> amusing.
>
> Mike
>
Dutch now - Jeff is going to blow the whole gaffe if he can get up
early tommorrow!!
Sofa - Spud
Mike Swift wrote:
> In article <3fjcm2djq5ihov441...@4ax.com>, Mike
> <nos...@nospam.com> writes
> >>You also learned that they don't have winters in Wales, it's an E.U.
> >>conspiracy, leave them of the map of Europe and don't send them any road
> >>salt, you've got to laugh.
> >
> >One word.
> >
> >Cheshire
>
> I'm sure we'd all like Cheshire to vanish but that's another thread, I
> know they get salt from Cheshire, I was trying, and failing, to be
> amusing.
>
> Mike
>
Mike
<jeff.l...@orange.nl> wrote:
>Maybe I'll pop down there over the weekend, it's not that far from me
>although not on my bike!
>I'm curious myself now. I'd take photos but I might get suspected
>of being a terrorist or something!
Dress in a burqa and they won't suspect a thing
--
John Rowland
Mmmmm, Bolivia.
John Rowland
>
> Switzerland nevertheless does have a navy.
And why not, since Prussia has a blue.
Mike
<mike....@yeton.co.uk> wrote:
>
>The last series treated the Yorkshire coast very badly, I hope next
>week's episode makes up for it.
Why, what did they do/not do that offended you?
--
Mike
>If you had watched it, you wouldn't ask.
I did, at least twice, maybe more with the repeats on UK History.
I was born in Yorkshire, I live there, wouldn't live anywhere else,
and despite all that I still can't work out just how the area was
treated badly.
--
Jeff Lawrence
According to the Leiden newspaper it conceals a long disused NATO
>pipeline terminal that is awaiting demolition.
Ah, I was planning to sabotage it tomorrow but I don't think
I'll bother now!
Cheers
Jeff
Mike Swift
<nos...@nospam.com> writes
>>The last series treated the Yorkshire coast very badly, I hope next
>>week's episode makes up for it.
>
>Why, what did they do/not do that offended you?
They didn't show parts of the coast that were advertised for a start,
they showed a few seconds of Whitby and fewer parts of Spurn Point thus
missing some spectacular cliffs around Bempton and Flamborough.
Nick Austin
<jeff.l...@orange.nl> wrote:
>> Just along the coast from you is this:
>> http://tinyurl.com/y9p2v4
>>
>> What is it?
>
>After a bit of searching I've found out it's the DPO (Defensie Pijpleiding
>Organisatie or
>Defensive Pipeline Organisation) which supplies fuel to the military amongst
>other things.
>http://www.globe.be/pe/peb/enpeb04.htm
Thanks.
It seems odd to censor images that way, it just draws attention
to the fact that there is something interesting underneath,
also I notice that roads and their names are still shown on
the 'map' and 'hybrid' views.
I've since found a list of known obscured locations on Google
Earth. This was the first list I found, there may be others:
http://tinyurl.com/yxwrnl
Nick.
Jeff Lawrence
> AFAIR all that is there is a large lump of reinforced concrete. I couldn't
> think where it was either. You missed the days when men in black leather coats
> with guns patrolled the bunkers in the dunes near Valkenburg airfield. In the
> 1960s it was still forbidden to go in that part of the dunes. It frightened
> the shit out of me, when I saw a guy in a black leather coat with a rifle.
> Luckily he didn't see me. Have you seen all the bits of 1940s German concrete
> architecture in the dunes between Katwijk and Wassenaar Slag. It's the remains
> of the Atlantic Wall.
I didn't get the chance to pop down and check it out yesterday as when
we woke up we found that there was no hot water. Apparently my boiler
has had it and I have to get a new one. 2500 euros! And we're off to
Peru
for three weeks next week so that's all I need!
I've not seen the German fortifications at Katwijk but when I was up in
Texel
a few years ago I explored a few German observation posts and things.
Quite
spooky actually.
How long have you been over here Martin? Obviously since at least the
60s.
Cheers
Jeff
Jeff Lawrence
> There are several bunker websites
> IJmuiden
> http://home.tiscali.nl/bunkerarchief/index_sub_ba_ijmuiden.htm
> http://home.tiscali.nl/bunkerarchief/bunker_archief_ijmuiden_ordners.htm
> http://home.tiscali.nl/bunkerarchief/hoekvanholland/index_hvh.htm
I know these well as I work in IJmuiden and often pass near some of
these
bunkers if I have to do a detour across the Nordzeekanal locks.
> Too long, since the 1960s.
I've only been here for 5 years but it seems a lot longer. I'm fairly
settled
here now though. What made you come over here then? I here because
I relocated here through my job when British Steel merged with
Hoogovens
and became Corus.
Cheers
Jeff
Jeff Lawrence
> Are you here for good?
Well, not for good but certainly for the foreseeable future.
I've now bought a house here and my wife now has a good
job as well. There's not much to go back home to apart
from my family and I think the life here is, overall, better
than I can get over there.
We may think about moving somewhere else when my
son is a bit older though but it might not necessarily be
back to the UK. It could well be to Spain or even to Peru,
who knows.
Cheers
Jeff
Sofa - Spud
Martin wrote:
> On 27 Nov 2006 03:09:15 -0800, "Jeff Lawrence" <jeff.l...@orange.nl>
> wrote:
>
> >Martin wrote:
> >
> >> AFAIR all that is there is a large lump of reinforced concrete. I couldn't
> >> think where it was either. You missed the days when men in black leather coats
> >> with guns patrolled the bunkers in the dunes near Valkenburg airfield. In the
> >> 1960s it was still forbidden to go in that part of the dunes. It frightened
> >> the shit out of me, when I saw a guy in a black leather coat with a rifle.
> >> Luckily he didn't see me. Have you seen all the bits of 1940s German concrete
> >> architecture in the dunes between Katwijk and Wassenaar Slag. It's the remains
> >> of the Atlantic Wall.
> >
> >I didn't get the chance to pop down and check it out yesterday as when
> >we woke up we found that there was no hot water. Apparently my boiler
> >has had it and I have to get a new one. 2500 euros! And we're off to
> >Peru
> >for three weeks next week so that's all I need!
> >I've not seen the German fortifications at Katwijk
>
> middle of a small lake also an enormous tank trap.
> The steam railway used to run through the dunes but they were kicked out for
> "environmental reasons"
>
> There was an article in the Leidsch Dagblad about the German anti aircraft
> group who spent the war in the dunes going nuts with boredom. They had their
> own swimming pool built. There is no sign of it or them now. :-)
>
> > but when I was up in
> >Texel
> >a few years ago I explored a few German observation posts and things.
> >Quite
> >spooky actually.
>
> http://home.zonnet.nl/atlanticwall/start.htm
>
> There are several bunker websites
> IJmuiden
> http://home.tiscali.nl/bunkerarchief/index_sub_ba_ijmuiden.htm
> http://home.tiscali.nl/bunkerarchief/bunker_archief_ijmuiden_ordners.htm
> http://home.tiscali.nl/bunkerarchief/hoekvanholland/index_hvh.htm
>
> http://www.ww2sites.com/index_nl.php?action=jump&page=nlnoordwijk
>
> Katwijk, in English, with photos of the wall in the lake
> http://www.ww2sites.com/index.php?action=jump&page=nlkatwijk
>
> You can visit the bunkers in the dunes that were still used and guarded in the
> nineteen sixties, now. They are an official bat reserve. Tours start from near
> the roundabout at Wassenaar Slag. Times and dates of tours are badly
> publicised. So badly publicised that I still haven't done the tour.
Those are great sites , a lot of interesting stuff there indeed. Worht
a look over if you can get there - they have to be seen to be believed
. The amount of work that went into them and a lot of it slave labour
form the todt organisation. We were lucky enough to go to St Malo for
our holidays and there is a huge underground bunker you can visit - one
of the largest . The metal turrets on top are 2 ft thick and had huge
chunks blown out of them. Scary stuff indeed but like the above they
represent the worst things the germans aspired to.
>
> >How long have you been over here Martin? Obviously since at least the
> >60s.
>
> Too long, since the 1960s.
> --
>
> Martin