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A Hughes

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Oct 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/4/97
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Well, what do people think of the new BBC logo? You certainly can't
miss it - it overpowers everything else on the screen (also some older
program trailers have graphics overlapping it.)
Also, notice the similarity with the bbc logo Ceefax has used for a
long time - £5m just to smooth that one out a bit seems a bit steep!

al.

Mike Swift

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Oct 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/5/97
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In article <34366ea...@news.demon.co.uk>, A Hughes
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And how much did they pay the 'singers' in the new promo? I get the urge
to throw something at the T.V. when its on.

Mike

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Rob Wilcox

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Oct 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/5/97
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A Hughes asked:


>Well, what do people think of the new BBC logo?

Not a lot - yuk !

It's overpowering and objectionably 'in-yer-face'.
Good TV Presentation is meant to be stylish but discreet
with unobtrusive transitions between items. Not this.

Also, sound 'mixing' between sequential items seems to have
been replaced by hard 'switching/cutting' resulting in the
final half-second of items getting chopped. Sounds awful.

Is the Presentation mixer incapable of leading/lagging/mixing
sound sources as conventionally required for good Presentaion.

How many BBC careers were destroyed to raise the five million quid ?

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Scott Thomas

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Oct 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/5/97
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In article <34366ea...@news.demon.co.uk>, A Hughes
<a...@marv.demon.co.uk> writes
>Well, what do people think of the new BBC logo? You certainly can't
>miss it - it overpowers everything else on the screen (also some older
>program trailers have graphics overlapping it.)
>Also, notice the similarity with the bbc logo Ceefax has used for a
>long time - £5m just to smooth that one out a bit seems a bit steep!
>
>al.
I think the ballon looks very tacky and amateurish (sp?)
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Catty

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Oct 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/6/97
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Mike Swift <mike....@yeton.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <34366ea...@news.demon.co.uk>, A Hughes
><a...@marv.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Well, what do people think of the new BBC logo? You certainly can't
>>miss it - it overpowers everything else on the screen (also some older
>>program trailers have graphics overlapping it.)
>>Also, notice the similarity with the bbc logo Ceefax has used for a
>>long time - £5m just to smooth that one out a bit seems a bit steep!

>And how much did they pay the 'singers' in the new promo? I get the urge


>to throw something at the T.V. when its on.

According to one newspaper, the 'artists' were paid 250 pound each.
Ha! If I believe that, I'd believe the tall tales my grandpa used to
tell me...

Catty

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Jon Wallis

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Oct 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/6/97
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In article <34366ea...@news.demon.co.uk>, a...@marv.demon.co.uk says...

>
>Well, what do people think of the new BBC logo?

It's awful. It's like an "easy reading" version of what the proper logo
should be (if there was one).

Quite what impression of the BBC it's meant to convey escapes me, other than
that of a corporation that wastes millions of pounds on tweaking a logo.

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Aidan Alexander Folkes

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Oct 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/6/97
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Mike Swift (mike....@yeton.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <34366ea...@news.demon.co.uk>, A Hughes
: <a...@marv.demon.co.uk> writes
: >Well, what do people think of the new BBC logo? You certainly can't

: >miss it - it overpowers everything else on the screen (also some older
: >program trailers have graphics overlapping it.)
: >Also, notice the similarity with the bbc logo Ceefax has used for a
: >long time - £5m just to smooth that one out a bit seems a bit steep!
:
: And how much did they pay the 'singers' in the new promo? I get the urge
: to throw something at the T.V. when its on.

If you had read the teletext page you would have found out that they did it for
absolutely nothing.

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Darren Meldrum

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Oct 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/6/97
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Mike Swift wrote on Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:24:41 +0100:

>And how much did they pay the 'singers' in the new promo? I get the urge
>to throw something at the T.V. when its on.

If you are talking about "Perfect Day" then depending on who you believe,
they donated their time free, were paid a "nominal" fee, or were paid
expenses only.

They were certainly not paid the going rate.

Whilst I may not necessarily agree with such advertising, I think the final
result is rather good, and unique.

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Gary Jones

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Oct 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/7/97
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In article <EHMo7...@fsa.bris.ac.uk>, Aidan Alexander Folkes
<af6...@irix.bris.ac.uk> wrote

>
>If you had read the teletext page you would have found out that they did it for
>absolutely nothing.
>
And if you read the BBC web page, you'll find out that they did it for a
nominal fee. I guess there was a Musician's Union thing involved, which
meant they COULDN'T do it for absolutely nothing.

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Andrew Wiseman

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Oct 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/7/97
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Aidan Alexander Folkes wrote:
>
> Mike Swift (mike....@yeton.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> : And how much did they pay the 'singers' in the new promo? I get the

> : urge to throw something at the T.V. when its on.
>
> If you had read the teletext page you would have found out that they
> did it for absolutely nothing.

And if you had read the BBC web page advertised at the end of the promo,
you would have found out that they did it for a "nominal fee".

Andrew
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Jonathan Sanderson

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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Catty <ca...@xzen-centaur.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> According to one newspaper, the 'artists' were paid 250 pound each.
> Ha! If I believe that, I'd believe the tall tales my grandpa used to
> tell me...

I've no proper 'inside knowledge', but have heard that figure via
several routes. Those three magic letters, eh... :)

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tony....@uk.sun.com

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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In article <34366ea...@news.demon.co.uk>,

a...@marv.demon.co.uk (A Hughes) wrote:
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> Well, what do people think of the new BBC logo?

I reckon the BBC and Channel 4 must employ the same consultants (though
not the same ad agencies) - they both seem to have been quite happy to
spend millions of quids (in the BBC's case, the poor old licence payers'
millions of quids) on replacing something visually interesting with
something that looks like it was designed by some six-year-old playing
with paints with on a rainy afternoon.

On second thoughts, probably Po and Laa-Laa could have put together
something better than that [B][B][C] <1920s>ONE</1920s> thing.

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Adam Tandy

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Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
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Darren Meldrum wrote:

> Mike Swift wrote on Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:24:41 +0100:

> >And how much did they pay the 'singers' in the new promo? I get the urge=

> >to throw something at the T.V. when its on.

> If you are talking about "Perfect Day" then depending on who you believe,=

> they donated their time free, were paid a "nominal" fee, or were paid
> expenses only.


They were paid =A3250 each.

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Shez

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Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
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Paul Squires <p...@soc.unl.ac.uk> writes:
| On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Rob Wilcox wrote:
|
| The new Childrens BBC ones are equally good.

Much too yellow if you ask me. There was nothing wrong with the old
ones, and some of the animations were pretty new, less than a year old I
think, and designed by viewers. Meanwhile although a few years old, the
squiggly turquoise Childrens BBC ident sequence was brilliant and
timeless, reminiscent of the BBC2 logos.

As for the little BBC TWO thing, this seems to be a revertion to the
lettering they used to have in the 1970's. Weird.

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Steve Ticehurst

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Oct 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/18/97
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On Wed, 08 Oct 1997 07:11:37 -0600, tony....@uk.sun.com wrote:

>In article <34366ea...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> a...@marv.demon.co.uk (A Hughes) wrote:
>>
>> Well, what do people think of the new BBC logo?
>
>

>On second thoughts, probably Po and Laa-Laa could have put together
>something better than that [B][B][C] <1920s>ONE</1920s> thing.
>

The 1920s font used looks very at home on my black and white TV! I
don't think the new look gives the same authoritive impression that
the old logo did. The old logo was much more formal, more "British",
while the new ballon and 1920s font looks just like any commercial
station, it doesn't really stick out and say "Hey, we are the BBC, we
are British, we are unique 'cos we don't have adverts etc..."

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