Another asbestos thread - dealing with it.
David W.E. Roberts
having read all the wild optimism and crazy doom predicitons, I am seeking a
balanced view :-)
We are in the process of purchasing a property.
The survey shows possible 'bad' asbestos - ceiling insulating boards in the
garage.
We are waiting for the results of analysis.
The 'leave alone' advice doesn't seem appropriate because the boards are
extensively damaged.
Fron Googling and talking to the local council there seem two options
(ignoring the total DIY solutions).
(1) Employ specialist contractors (£ OUCH!)
(2) Employ a knowledgable builder who knows how to take the correct
precautions, and dispose of the waste at the local tip (£ ouch!)
We are told the local tip will take 3 sheets (3x2) double bagged for £25.
Has anyone recently dealt with a similar problem?
We also have quite a lot of white asbestos cement products, but allegedly
they are easy to deal with compared to the brown/blue variants.
If anyone has had blue/brown asbestos removed, we would welcome feedback on
the cost and methods.
We will shortly have to negotiate over the costs of the removal with the
vendor - always assuming that the analysis does show 'bad' asbestos.
TIA
Dave R
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<nos...@talk21.com> wrote:
>If anyone has had blue/brown asbestos removed, we would welcome feedback on
>the cost and methods.
Basically, they seal the room in which the asbestos is located with
polythene and tape and install a filtered extraction fan. This creates
a negative pressure meaning any dust and fibres can't escape.
People in overalls and breathing apparatus then soak the asbestos in
water (to reduce fibres) and strip it carefully, double bagging it as
they go.
Peter Parry
<nos...@talk21.com> wrote:
>We are in the process of purchasing a property.
>
>The survey shows possible 'bad' asbestos - ceiling insulating boards in the
>garage.
They will probably be asbestos cement - 10% Chrysotile (white
asbestos,90%cement).
>Has anyone recently dealt with a similar problem?
It is an increasing problem with building societies demanding
inappropriate treatment to avoid claims decades in the future. The
asbestos fraud/litigation industry is growing apace.
>We also have quite a lot of white asbestos cement products, but allegedly
>they are easy to deal with compared to the brown/blue variants.
You are extremely unlikely to have Amphibole (brown or blue) asbestos
anywhere in the house.
> as
>If anyone has had blue/brown asbestos removed, we would welcome feedback on
>the cost and methods.
Amphibole removal can only be done by licensed contractors at vast
expense. If there really is any significant amount of Amphibole
material you would be better off looking for another house. Almost
the only form of asbestos found in domestic houses is Chrysotile and
the "double bag and take to the tip" advise applies only to asbestos
cement products.
Councils are so concerned about asbestos that they charge for dumping
it safely - so ensuring most ends up on the side of the road or in
old industrial areas where it is left for years.
Try http://www.asbestoswatchdog.co.uk/ for some good advice.
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Chris Bacon
> We are in the process of purchasing a property.
>
> The survey shows possible 'bad' asbestos - ceiling insulating boards in the
> garage.
> We are waiting for the results of analysis.
You can't know what to do until you get this, but:
> The 'leave alone' advice doesn't seem appropriate because the boards are
> extensively damaged.
Perhaps they could be sealed and covered (e.g. plasterboard).
> Fron Googling and talking to the local council there seem two options
> (ignoring the total DIY solutions).
>
> (1) Employ specialist contractors (£ OUCH!)
>
> (2) Employ a knowledgable builder who knows how to take the correct
> precautions, and dispose of the waste at the local tip (£ ouch!)
>
> We are told the local tip will take 3 sheets (3x2) double bagged for £25.
"Local tips" will take asbestos of the type used in asbestos cement. I
have never been charged money for disposal from domestic premesis. You
should check whether they need it bagged, some have closed skips for
the purpose.
> Has anyone recently dealt with a similar problem?
>
> We also have quite a lot of white asbestos cement products, but allegedly
> they are easy to deal with compared to the brown/blue variants.
See above, wait for the survey results.
> If anyone has had blue/brown asbestos removed, we would welcome feedback on
> the cost and methods.
I'd be surprised if a garage roof had that in it. Do you mean sheet
materials, or lagging-type stuff?
big...@meeow.co.uk
> Hi,
>
> having read all the wild optimism and crazy doom predicitons, I am seeking a
> balanced view :-)
surely you want the one that makes sense, and is backed by valid
science, regardless of whether its one extreme, the other, or somewhere
between the 2.
Here it is:
http://www.asbestoswatchdog.co.uk/ACM.pdf
> We are in the process of purchasing a property.
>
> The survey shows possible 'bad' asbestos - ceiling insulating boards in the
> garage.
this means nothing. Surveys list possible everything to avoid being
sued. The only real question is is there asbestos or not? Maybe isnt a
useful answer.
> We are waiting for the results of analysis.
>
> The 'leave alone' advice doesn't seem appropriate because the boards are
> extensively damaged.
>
> Fron Googling and talking to the local council there seem two options
> (ignoring the total DIY solutions).
>
> (1) Employ specialist contractors (£ OUCH!)
>
> (2) Employ a knowledgable builder who knows how to take the correct
> precautions, and dispose of the waste at the local tip (£ ouch!)
>
> We are told the local tip will take 3 sheets (3x2) double bagged for £25.
>
> Has anyone recently dealt with a similar problem?
you seem to be jumping the gun a bit. Why not let us know if you find
asbestos. What colour are these sheets?
> We also have quite a lot of white asbestos cement products, but allegedly
> they are easy to deal with compared to the brown/blue variants.
yes, blue and brown are a genuine risk, white isnt so doesnt need
dealing with.
> If anyone has had blue/brown asbestos removed, we would welcome feedback on
> the cost and methods.
>
> We will shortly have to negotiate over the costs of the removal with the
> vendor - always assuming that the analysis does show 'bad' asbestos.
which is unlikely.
NT