Alternatives to news.individual.net
Tony Grayson
news.individual.net is having difficulty renewing his subscription.
Credit card ran out and the clickandbuy service refuses to accept the
new card, despite the fact that it has the same number, and only the
expiry date and CVV numbers have changed. Emailing clickandbuy proved
useless.
Are there any other decent ng providers that people can recommend; don't
need to transfer huge amounts of data, so companies like giganews are
not good value for money.
Thanks in advance.
jim
> Somewhat OT for this ng, but a friend of mine who was using
> news.individual.net is having difficulty renewing his subscription.
> Credit card ran out and the clickandbuy service refuses to accept the
> new card, despite the fact that it has the same number, and only the
> expiry date and CVV numbers have changed. Emailing clickandbuy proved
> useless.
I had exactly this problem - there's something deeply amiss with their
web site. For some reason it simply would not accept my address, even
though I've been with them for a couple of years. However, if he phones
them it will be resolved swiftly. Sucks, I know, but it works.
Jim
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Michael H. Phillips
> Are there any other decent ng providers that people can recommend
I've been using Supernews for some years without complaint. $3.95 per month.
They've upgraded their service recently and now offer a European server
(Amsterdam) which is fast. Retention is 1,000 days. Spam filtering is fairly
good.
One unfortunate side-effect of their server upgrade is that they no longer
use XHDR which was very handy for creating filters.
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Peter Ceresole
> I had exactly this problem - there's something deeply amiss with their
> web site. For some reason it simply would not accept my address, even
> though I've been with them for a couple of years. However, if he phones
> them it will be resolved swiftly. Sucks, I know, but it works.
Same here. I phoned them (Clickandbuy) and the guy told me the problem
was that I was registerd as an 'International' user, not UK. So the web
based end of the database can't accept the change. Anyway, he did the
switch while we talked, and the money has gone through. As I understand
it, this should switch me to Clickanbuy's UK database. If not, I know
how to clear it up.
+49 (0)221 177 38 954 is the number. Using 18866 <www.call18866.co.uk>
(which everybody should do anyway) it's cheap. It was certainly quick.
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Peter
Chris Ridd
It isn't obvious from the clickandbuy website whether one is an
International man of mystery or a UK person. How would one find out?
(Apart from waiting for Berlin to say "nein danke".)
Cheers,
Chris
Peter Ceresole
> It isn't obvious from the clickandbuy website whether one is an
> International man of mystery or a UK person. How would one find out?
> (Apart from waiting for Berlin to say "nein danke".)
I don't know. I only found out because I found my account on the the web
site wouldn't accept the CC changes I tried to enter. Which is why I
phoned them.
But it seems to me that a lot of people (for some smallish value of 'a
lot', I suppose) who were signed up for NIN at the time that they
started to charge their nominal €10 have had this problem. So maybe it
was a local problem- local in time anyway.
When your credit card details change (as in validity date and security
code) they turn you down in plenty of time to get things fixed if the
change goes wrong. The process is very quick. And on the first of April,
I got an email confirming that the sub had been paid.
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Peter
Ian Robinson
> Are there any other decent ng providers that people can recommend; don't
> need to transfer huge amounts of data, so companies like giganews are
> not good value for money.
Gradwell. £2.35 inc Vat a month. Billed annually. No binaries. Filtered feed.
Marvellous.
<http://www.gradwell.com/webhosting/usenet/>
Ian
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Steve Hodgson
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:12:48 +0100, Tony Grayson wrote
> (in article <1iexuj2.zayaesajh3ngN%to...@nospamgrayson.org.uk>):
>
>> Are there any other decent ng providers that people can recommend; don't
>> need to transfer huge amounts of data, so companies like giganews are
>> not good value for money.
>
> Gradwell. £2.35 inc Vat a month. Billed annually. No binaries. Filtered feed.
> Marvellous.
>
> <http://www.gradwell.com/webhosting/usenet/>
I may come back to this thread when my news.individual.net expires.
The amount of spam getting through is getting ridiculous. Thankfully a
crosspost filter keeps most of it unseen.
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The reply-to email address is a spam trap.
Email steve 'at' shodgson 'dot' org 'dot' uk
Pd
> Tony Grayson <to...@nospamgrayson.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Somewhat OT for this ng, but a friend of mine who was using
> > news.individual.net is having difficulty renewing his subscription.
> > Credit card ran out and the clickandbuy service refuses to accept the
> > new card, despite the fact that it has the same number, and only the
> > expiry date and CVV numbers have changed. Emailing clickandbuy proved
> > useless.
>
> I had exactly this problem - there's something deeply amiss with their
> web site. For some reason it simply would not accept my address, even
> though I've been with them for a couple of years. However, if he phones
> them it will be resolved swiftly. Sucks, I know, but it works.
That'll be "me too" then. Although my problem was slightly different, I
just couldn't log in to the server. When I checked ClickandBuy it
appears my sub has expired. I couldn't renew it, and when I phoned them
(on a Sunday) some bloke called Chris (or Kris) said according to his
screen the account wasn't expired, so he couldn't renew it for me.
Bettina at NIN was very helpful, and manually reinstated my account for
three days while I get payment sorted. Great service.
--
Pd
Jim
Although I wish that NIN would just accept credit cards. It would cut out
all this hassle with Click'n'Hope.
Jim
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Adrian C
> Although I wish that NIN would just accept credit cards. It would cut out
> all this hassle with Click'n'Hope.
>
They do offer Paypal (though how you change from one payment method to
another without causing more grief is another question).
FWIW, my click and buy renewal yesterday went without a hitch, and that
included me having to log in and reset my bank credit card CCV details
when the server told me it had bounced the first time. I initially was
signed up before they started charging and don't have any reason to go
elsewhere. NIN rocks :-)
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Adrian C
Jim
I agree about NIN's quality, I just don't like their payment options.
I just don't not like them enough to move. If you see what I mean.
Trooper
says...
> On 2008-04-06 11:51:39 +0100, Ian Robinson <ju...@canicula.invalid> said:
>
> > On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:12:48 +0100, Tony Grayson wrote
> > (in article <1iexuj2.zayaesajh3ngN%to...@nospamgrayson.org.uk>):
> >
> >> Are there any other decent ng providers that people can recommend; don't
> >> need to transfer huge amounts of data, so companies like giganews are
> >> not good value for money.
> >
> > Gradwell. £2.35 inc Vat a month. Billed annually. No binaries. Filtered feed.
> > Marvellous.
> >
> > <http://www.gradwell.com/webhosting/usenet/>
>
> I may come back to this thread when my news.individual.net expires.
>
> The amount of spam getting through is getting ridiculous. Thankfully a
> crosspost filter keeps most of it unseen.
>
are doing quite a good deal of 25gb for $10, which should last you
forever if you only use text groups.
However, I've moved over to
who are free and everything seems to be working fine.
T.
deKay
2008 10:59:06 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.comp.sys.mac,
yawatina tan reek esk peter...@gmail.invalid (Pd) fornis do marikano es
bono tan el:
>That'll be "me too" then. Although my problem was slightly different, I
>just couldn't log in to the server. When I checked ClickandBuy it
>appears my sub has expired. I couldn't renew it, and when I phoned them
>(on a Sunday) some bloke called Chris (or Kris) said according to his
>screen the account wasn't expired, so he couldn't renew it for me.
>
>Bettina at NIN was very helpful, and manually reinstated my account for
>three days while I get payment sorted. Great service.
Same problems here as others on this group - I have a new credit card since
last year and the site won't accept it.
deKay
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deKay
yawatina tan reek esk Trooper <remov...@trooperlooper.co.uk> fornis do
marikano es bono tan el:
>who are free and everything seems to be working fine.
How is the spam filtering there?
Trooper
gaming.org.uk says...
> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 7 Apr
> 2008 13:46:23 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.comp.sys.mac,
> yawatina tan reek esk Trooper <remov...@trooperlooper.co.uk> fornis do
> marikano es bono tan el:
>
> >who are free and everything seems to be working fine.
>
> How is the spam filtering there?
>
Pretty much the same as NIN as far as I can see at the moment, might be
a couple more that get through.
The only real difference I can tell is that it drops the connection on a
regular basis for me, I could stay connected all day with NIN, but as we
live in an asynchronous world in these parts, it's hardly a problem.
T.
David Kennedy
>
> +49 (0)221 177 38 954 is the number. Using 18866 <www.call18866.co.uk>
> (which everybody should do anyway) it's cheap. It was certainly quick.
Anyone, apart from me that is, finding 18866 a little flaky on occasions
over the past few weeks ? Not always but just every now and then. For
example, I tried to call my daughters mobile only to be told - by an
american female person - that "this circuit has not been assigned;
please recheck your dial mode".
I've also had a similar problem with another mobile number when I got
the message "insufficient credit to complete the call"
Maybe I'll try 1899 or 18185 who look - at first glance - to be cheaper
than 18866.
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Paul Womar
> +49 (0)221 177 38 954 is the number. Using 18866 <www.call18866.co.uk>
> (which everybody should do anyway) it's cheap. It was certainly quick.
I'm not really sure about that. There are people who will charge you a
quarter of their rate and won't stick a connection fee on top, have a
look at: http://callchecker.moneysavingexpert.com
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Peter Ceresole
<davidk...@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindofferyoubastard.invalid
> wrote:
> Anyone, apart from me that is, finding 18866 a little flaky on occasions
> over the past few weeks ?
Nope. All my calls are routed through them, and I've not had any cause
to complain lately.
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Peter
The Older Gentleman
> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 7 Apr
> 2008 10:59:06 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.comp.sys.mac,
> yawatina tan reek esk peter...@gmail.invalid (Pd) fornis do marikano es
> bono tan el:
>
> >That'll be "me too" then. Although my problem was slightly different, I
> >just couldn't log in to the server. When I checked ClickandBuy it
> >appears my sub has expired. I couldn't renew it, and when I phoned them
> >(on a Sunday) some bloke called Chris (or Kris) said according to his
> >screen the account wasn't expired, so he couldn't renew it for me.
> >
> >Bettina at NIN was very helpful, and manually reinstated my account for
> >three days while I get payment sorted. Great service.
>
> Same problems here as others on this group - I have a new credit card since
> last year and the site won't accept it.
>
My prob is that Click&Bollocks won't allow me to change my username,
which is my old Pipex email addie. It doesn't affect anything - but if I
ever forgot the PW, I'm not sure how they'd email me a reminder or a
reset.
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Pd
> My prob is that Click&Bollocks won't allow me to change my username,
> which is my old Pipex email addie. It doesn't affect anything - but if I
> ever forgot the PW, I'm not sure how they'd email me a reminder or a
> reset.
I was able to change my email address without a problem, which is just
as well because mine was my old ISP email, which I lost access to when I
changed ISP a couple of months ago.
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Pd
Flavio Matani
> On 2008-04-07, Adrian C <em...@here.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Although I wish that NIN would just accept credit cards. It would cut out
> >> all this hassle with Click'n'Hope.
> >>
> >
> > They do offer Paypal (though how you change from one payment method to
> > another without causing more grief is another question).
> >
> > FWIW, my click and buy renewal yesterday went without a hitch, and that
> > included me having to log in and reset my bank credit card CCV details
> > when the server told me it had bounced the first time. I initially was
> > signed up before they started charging and don't have any reason to go
> > elsewhere. NIN rocks :-)
>
> I agree about NIN's quality, I just don't like their payment options.
>
> I just don't not like them enough to move. If you see what I mean.
I keep getting confused with this thread, wondering what Trent Reznor
has to do with Usenet... (ok, I'm tired after a complicated couple of
days and it is the second gin and tonic...)
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Pd
> I agree about NIN's quality, I just don't like their payment options.
I've finally given up, and moved to motzarella.org. I like
individual.net, but if they can't take my money because ClickandBuy
doesn't work then they've lost my ten euros.
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Pd
Mark Ingle
> I had exactly this problem - there's something deeply amiss with their
> web site. For some reason it simply would not accept my address, even
> though I've been with them for a couple of years. However, if he phones
> them it will be resolved swiftly. Sucks, I know, but it works.
>
I had this problem; I first emailed clickandbuy and still had no
response after a week. Then I tried phoning them up; didn't cost much as
I've got a VOIP service. However, after being on hold for 25 minutes
listening to the usual messages; I just got a message 'Goodbye' and the
line dropped, which was rather annoying.
I then e-mailed news.individual.net asking if I could pay another way.
News.individual.net was VERY quick and efficient in responding. They
cancelled my clickandbuy account and gave me a link to pay by PayPal (I
think other payment methods were also available.