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Actually Unit4 aren't doing one data model per customer. They are moving
to use the payments ontology [1] that we developed with LeGSB (Paul
Davidson), LG Group et al. They are going up the linked data learning
curve pretty fast.
To address Tony's question: for payments data sets using this ontology
the stores will contain an instance (or instances) of
payment:PaymentDataset to represent the dataset itself which is where
the metadata can sit. This "should" include descriptive metadata
(DCterms), void metadata (vocabularies used, example resources) and data
cube structural information (the dimensions of the cube etc [2]).
However, by the "finance" store I assume you mean the finance linked
data endpoint currently on data.gov.uk. That pre-dates all the work on
data cubes, payments, reference time and all that. It is a Scovo dataset
and so does have a scovo:Dataset resource [3]. That resource doesn't
seem to have any useful metadata (unless you count the URI itself :))
but it points to observations it contains which you can then follow.
E.g.
>From that you can see the pattern for observations and start to slice by
e.g. time:
PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
PREFIX rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>
PREFIX xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>
PREFIX owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#>
PREFIX skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#>
PREFIX scovo: <http://purl.org/NET/scovo#>
PREFIX dim: <http://finance.data.gov.uk/statistics/dimension#>
DESCRIBE ?o WHERE { ?o scovo:dimension dim:financial-year-2007-08 . }
Dave
[1] http://reference.data.gov.uk/def/payment documentation for that will
be up somewhere public shortly.
[2]
http://publishing-statistical-data.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/specs/src/main/html/cube.html
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I wrote a SPARQL explorer for this purpose -- I often have the same problem.
If you give it an endpoint and no URI, it'll start by listing all the
available classes -- DISTINCT ?b WHERE { ?a rdf:type ?b }
Once you start clicking around, for a URI it'll (try and) show all
triples which mention that URI as also attempt to get the rdf:type and a
label (foaf:name, rdfs:label, dc:title etc.) for all the URIs it's
showing you, to make them more readable.
I've found it very helpful to just wonder around clicking on stuff to
see inside endpoints.
(I'm open to feature suggestions)
>> data endpoint currently on data.gov.uk <http://data.gov.uk>. That pre-dates all the work on
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You make an extremely important point, that with a fairly modest amount of extra information the linked data at data.gov.uk could be made a lot more useful. Although it doesn't help you right now, I can assure you that the folks behind data.gov.uk are certainly aware that this is an issue.
Together with others in the 'linked data kernel project' of data.gov.uk I'm trying to improve this situation by providing the kind of 1/2/3 information you describe, though I can't give you any kind of definite timeline as to when the data.gov.uk site will be enhanced in this way.
As for your specific question about the analytics, environment and finance datastores, I'll come back tomorrow with a few hopefully useful suggestions.
Regards
Bill
For some reason, I really find it hard to communicate anything of what I want to on this list...;-)
So I'll try again...
I *know* (via http://data.gov.uk/sparql ) that as well as the transport and education datastores, there are ones for analytics, finance and environment.
Telling me I can explore the datastore by doing SELECT ?a ?b ?c WHERE { ?a ?b ?c } LIMIT 10 (or whatever) tells me nothing.
I can start to get some sort of understanding about the education datastore if you tell me:1) it contains data about schools, that i can look up using identifiers for schools, or identifiers for the regions schools belong to, for example;
2) If i was looking for data about schools, I could look up useful things like the name of a school, its address, the number of pupils in the school, the date the school opened, as well as other things;
3) one or two really simple examples of what i might do with the schools database, such as look up the names of schools in a particular local authority area using a query looking like:PREFIX sch-ont: <http://education.data.gov.uk/def/school/>SELECT ?name WHERE {?school a sch-ont:School;sch-ont:establishmentName ?name;sch-ont:districtAdministrative <http://statistics.data.gov.uk/id/local-authority-district/00MG> .}
So: can anyone give me a clue/a hint/a simple way in to what's in the analytics, environment and finance datastores using the 1, 2, 3 approach above, with one or more example queries that would generate a simple output dataset that someone who didn't care at all about Linked Data might think was useful, and would help them understand, if only partially, something of what the datastore contained?
On 7 November 2010 19:57, Tony Hirst <tony....@gmail.com> wrote:
> So: can anyone give me a clue/a hint/a simple way in to what's in the
> analytics, environment and finance datastores using the 1, 2, 3 approach
> above, with one or more example queries that would generate a simple output
> dataset that someone who didn't care at all about Linked Data might think
> was useful, and would help them understand, if only partially, something of
> what the datastore contained?
Hi, not quite the 1/2/3 step, but here's my understanding of what's in
those stores. As has been noted before, the data in there doesn't
follow all of the best practices and is, I believe, so early
experiments with generating Linked Data from some government
statistics.
To my knowledge those stores haven't been updated since the data was
first loaded in Sept/October 2009. I also wasn't involved in the
conversion, so this is just my understanding from doing some digging.
Environment:
This is a conversion of the June 2008 DEFRA survey on land use and
livestock, see:
http://www.defra.gov.uk/evidence/statistics/foodfarm/landuselivestock/junesurvey/index.htm
Finance:
This is some of the PESA statistical data on public sector funding, see:
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/pespub_pesa10_natstats.htm
Analytics
I'm least sure about this one, I just know its web site
usage/referral data from Directgov.
Clearly all this information ought to be on data.gov.uk itself, but
its worth noting that there's stub wiki pages for all of these where
people can help contribute:
http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Finance_(endpoint)
http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Analytics_(endpoint)
http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Environment_(endpoint)
Cheers,
L.
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> Clearly all this information ought to be on data.gov.uk itself, but
> its worth noting that there's stub wiki pages for all of these where
> people can help contribute:
>
> http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Finance_(endpoint)
> http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Analytics_(endpoint)
> http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Environment_(endpoint)
How you get from the endpoint page to the wiki page?
Several times I've heard mention of the wiki pages for the linked data
data sets but never been able to find them.
Dave
On 8 November 2010 09:36, Dave Reynolds <dave.e....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 09:26 +0000, Leigh Dodds wrote:
>
>> Clearly all this information ought to be on data.gov.uk itself, but
>> its worth noting that there's stub wiki pages for all of these where
>> people can help contribute:
>>
>> http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Finance_(endpoint)
>> http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Analytics_(endpoint)
>> http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Environment_(endpoint)
>
> How you get from the endpoint page to the wiki page?
In this case pure chance, one of the them came up when I was googling
for a link! :)
> Several times I've heard mention of the wiki pages for the linked data
> data sets but never been able to find them.
They could definitely be better linked and promoted.