Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.8.0 full release
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Eric Shulman
Jun 2, 2013, 4:01:21 PM6/2/13
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Greetings All,
I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki Classic v2.8.0 is now
available for general use.
The full release can be viewed/downloaded from here:
http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/
Please see the [[WhatsNew]] tiddler for a summary of changes in this
revision.
enjoy,
-e
I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki Classic v2.8.0 is now
available for general use.
The full release can be viewed/downloaded from here:
http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/
Please see the [[WhatsNew]] tiddler for a summary of changes in this
revision.
enjoy,
-e
Smandoli
Jun 2, 2013, 7:03:16 PM6/2/13
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Thank you, Eric!
A year ago, two trends converged to discourage me: The Great Browser Crisis of TiddlyWiki, and my own favorite wiki documents becoming to large and slow to handle. Thanks to you and others, the G.B.Crisis is gone (although I still have psychological scars and some technical knowledge I never asked for).
As for my documents, I've found solutions and work-arounds, and decided I don't need so many plug-ins ... who knows, maybe I'll be able to get some more RAM someday.
In summary, I can breathe again. Thanks!
A Minor Criticism about Presentation
The Downloading tiddler in 2.8.0 does not include references to Windows 7, Window 8, and Chrome. That tiddler is the first place to which a TW Newbie is directed from the opening screen. I think prospective users would conclude from the current content that TW is a stale project.
A year ago, two trends converged to discourage me: The Great Browser Crisis of TiddlyWiki, and my own favorite wiki documents becoming to large and slow to handle. Thanks to you and others, the G.B.Crisis is gone (although I still have psychological scars and some technical knowledge I never asked for).
As for my documents, I've found solutions and work-arounds, and decided I don't need so many plug-ins ... who knows, maybe I'll be able to get some more RAM someday.
In summary, I can breathe again. Thanks!
A Minor Criticism about Presentation
The Downloading tiddler in 2.8.0 does not include references to Windows 7, Window 8, and Chrome. That tiddler is the first place to which a TW Newbie is directed from the opening screen. I think prospective users would conclude from the current content that TW is a stale project.
G.J.Robert
Jun 2, 2013, 7:44:51 PM6/2/13
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Congrats and thanks!
Eric Shulman於 2013年6月3日星期一UTC+8上午4時01分21秒寫道：
Eric Shulman於 2013年6月3日星期一UTC+8上午4時01分21秒寫道：
TonG
Jun 3, 2013, 7:45:30 AM6/3/13
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Hi Eric,
Many thanks for the great saving additions.
I tried your suggested steps:
1) go to http://www.TiddlyWiki.com
2) edit a tiddler (just add something to HelloThere)
3) press "save changes"
and yes I could download/save it.
But I noticed some character encoding problems:
- '© 2013 UnaMesa' in the Main Menu shows as '© 2013 UnaMesa
- 'options »' in the Sidebar shows as 'options »'
Windows 7 64-bit
Firefox 21.0 (char encoding UTF-8)
Cheers,
Ton
Many thanks for the great saving additions.
I tried your suggested steps:
1) go to http://www.TiddlyWiki.com
2) edit a tiddler (just add something to HelloThere)
3) press "save changes"
and yes I could download/save it.
But I noticed some character encoding problems:
- '© 2013 UnaMesa' in the Main Menu shows as '© 2013 UnaMesa
- 'options »' in the Sidebar shows as 'options »'
Windows 7 64-bit
Firefox 21.0 (char encoding UTF-8)
Cheers,
Ton
BuildHeaven
Jun 3, 2013, 2:32:14 PM6/3/13
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Awesome! Any idea why my 2.7.2 tells me it's already upgraded to the latest version when I try to update it?
Eric Shulman
Jun 3, 2013, 3:02:57 PM6/3/13
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On Jun 3, 11:32 am, BuildHeaven <aeshan.to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Awesome! Any idea why my 2.7.2 tells me it's already upgraded to the latest
> version when I try to update it?
oops! There are still a few manual steps involved in posting a new
> Awesome! Any idea why my 2.7.2 tells me it's already upgraded to the latest
> version when I try to update it?
update to TiddlyWiki. One of them is to put the latest TWCore in the
right place online for the "upgrade" process to find it. It should be
fixed now.
thanks,
-e
TonyM
Jun 3, 2013, 8:49:37 PM6/3/13
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Eric,
I have a Serious problem exposed with TiddlyWiki 2.8.0 in a special case ?
I think it important to report something here but I would understand that it may not be fixable at this stage. As posted by myself on a number of occasions I have been getting FireFox Abends - Closes Firefox when selecting Save Changes (Latest FireFox/TiddlyFox and earlier versions) - the problem is before 2.8.0 this may or may not happen on any save and it seems the longer the period without a save the more likely it will happen (When more is to be lost). This has been a wicked problem for me and I have tried to resolve it with all combinations of FF browser and plugin elimination.
Since installing 2.8.0 this problem is now repeatable because without TiddlyFox enabled it happens on every save.
Disable TiddlyFox Save Changes, Download over Dropbox copy from which it was loaded abends FF, Reopen FF File not found - Firefox can't find the file at /b:/TiddlyWiki/MasterDBV4.htm - File was deleted.
Disable TiddlyFox Save Changes, Download to new location from which it was loaded abends FF, Reopen FF file was Not deleted.
This means should the local file save fail care of TiddlyFox, the fall back (new 2.8.0 code) is now a guaranteed abend of FireFox) for me.
This is not occurring with the minimum test case !
I have disabled all Plugins containing netscape.security, From netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege('UniversalXPConnect');
including QuickEdit one of my favorite plugins but sadley the fault is still occurring.
Request
Given you are currently knee deep in the save code of tiddlyWiki could you please advise what plugin code could be interfering with this process and causing abends? I will then search for this code and disable plugins to see if I can eliminate it.
I will undertake another plugin disable and reenable elimination process because at least now the problem is predicable (assuming its that same).
FF Crash report below
Regards Tony
AdapterDeviceID: 0x0166
AdapterVendorID: 0x8086
Add-ons: tabletools2%40mingyi.org:1.17,%7B972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd%7D:21.0,jid0-lqtsBMO4PkjAOFcCt6zDcWsAXCU%40jetpack:0.2.4
AvailablePageFile: 2765107200
AvailablePhysicalMemory: 455303168
AvailableVirtualMemory: 520675328
BuildID: 20130511120803
CrashTime: 1370306476
EMCheckCompatibility: true
Email: anthony...@gmail.com
FramePoisonBase: 00000000f0de0000
FramePoisonSize: 65536
InstallTime: 1370305003
Notes: AdapterVendorID: 0x8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0x0166, AdapterSubsysID: 00031179, AdapterDriverVersion: 8.15.10.2712
D2D? D2D+ DWrite? DWrite+ D3D10 Layers? D3D10 Layers+ xpcom_runtime_abort(###!!! ABORT: OOM: file e:\builds\moz2_slave\rel-m-rel-w32_bld-000000000000\build\xpcom\string\src\nsTSubstring.cpp, line 291)
ProductID: {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}
ProductName: Firefox
ReleaseChannel: release
SecondsSinceLastCrash: 406
StartupTime: 1370306235
SystemMemoryUsePercentage: 86
Theme: classic/1.0
Throttleable: 1
TotalVirtualMemory: 2147352576
URL: file:///b:/TiddlyWiki/MasterDBV4.html
Vendor: Mozilla
Version: 21.0
Winsock_LSP: MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP] : 2 : 1 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IP] : 2 : 2 :
MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IP] : 2 : 3 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IPv6] : 2 : 1 :
MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IPv6] : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IPv6] : 2 : 3 :
RSVP TCPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 1 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
RSVP TCP Service Provider : 2 : 1 :
RSVP UDPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
RSVP UDP Service Provider : 2 : 2 :
VMCI sockets DGRAM : 0 : 2 : %windir%\system32\vsocklib.dll
VMCI sockets STREAM : 0 : 1 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] SEQPACKET 17 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] DATAGRAM 17 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] SEQPACKET 13 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] DATAGRAM 13 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] SEQPACKET 10 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] DATAGRAM 10 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] SEQPACKET 7 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] DATAGRAM 7 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] SEQPACKET 4 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] DATAGRAM 4 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] SEQPACKET 0 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] DATAGRAM 0 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] SEQPACKET 2 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] DATAGRAM 2 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] SEQPACKET 21 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] DATAGRAM 21 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{04A3E4C7-A637-4D7D-B241-E205E81378DF}] SEQPACKET 25 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{04A3E4C7-A637-4D7D-B241-E205E81378DF}] DATAGRAM 25 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{4CDE9167-C516-4870-8357-24259A3BCBC6}] SEQPACKET 24 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{4CDE9167-C516-4870-8357-24259A3BCBC6}] DATAGRAM 24 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2C37B797-F6D7-4367-AFC0-6C59DFDA0B3C}] SEQPACKET 23 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2C37B797-F6D7-4367-AFC0-6C59DFDA0B3C}] DATAGRAM 23 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] SEQPACKET 22 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] DATAGRAM 22 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] SEQPACKET 20 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] DATAGRAM 20 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{6FDB72DD-9837-4003-95AE-A61A7A6EB53D}] SEQPACKET 19 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{6FDB72DD-9837-4003-95AE-A61A7A6EB53D}] DATAGRAM 19 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{77926489-2F5D-48D2-A983-1A7E53E22D0A}] SEQPACKET 15 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{77926489-2F5D-48D2-A983-1A7E53E22D0A}] DATAGRAM 15 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{D3E94A1D-0F10-4F63-B5D0-12E11375CAB1}] SEQPACKET 12 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{D3E94A1D-0F10-4F63-B5D0-12E11375CAB1}] DATAGRAM 12 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{ABC3B15A-0A4D-4FEB-A638-76880EABDDFB}] SEQPACKET 9 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{ABC3B15A-0A4D-4FEB-A638-76880EABDDFB}] DATAGRAM 9 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2B68A915-447F-46E1-8EFD-7289D91235B6}] SEQPACKET 6 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2B68A915-447F-46E1-8EFD-7289D91235B6}] DATAGRAM 6 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] SEQPACKET 18 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] DATAGRAM 18 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{3601EF92-06D6-46CD-8C4D-D80EFC09289B}] SEQPACKET 16 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{3601EF92-06D6-46CD-8C4D-D80EFC09289B}] DATAGRAM 16 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] SEQPACKET 14 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] DATAGRAM 14 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] SEQPACKET 11 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] DATAGRAM 11 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] SEQPACKET 8 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] DATAGRAM 8 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] SEQPACKET 5 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] DATAGRAM 5 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] SEQPACKET 1 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] DATAGRAM 1 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{25F9ACEB-00A4-400F-963F-74695E5994F8}] SEQPACKET 3 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{25F9ACEB-00A4-400F-963F-74695E5994F8}] DATAGRAM 3 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.
I have a Serious problem exposed with TiddlyWiki 2.8.0 in a special case ?
I think it important to report something here but I would understand that it may not be fixable at this stage. As posted by myself on a number of occasions I have been getting FireFox Abends - Closes Firefox when selecting Save Changes (Latest FireFox/TiddlyFox and earlier versions) - the problem is before 2.8.0 this may or may not happen on any save and it seems the longer the period without a save the more likely it will happen (When more is to be lost). This has been a wicked problem for me and I have tried to resolve it with all combinations of FF browser and plugin elimination.
Since installing 2.8.0 this problem is now repeatable because without TiddlyFox enabled it happens on every save.
Disable TiddlyFox Save Changes, Download over Dropbox copy from which it was loaded abends FF, Reopen FF File not found - Firefox can't find the file at /b:/TiddlyWiki/MasterDBV4.htm - File was deleted.
Disable TiddlyFox Save Changes, Download to new location from which it was loaded abends FF, Reopen FF file was Not deleted.
This means should the local file save fail care of TiddlyFox, the fall back (new 2.8.0 code) is now a guaranteed abend of FireFox) for me.
This is not occurring with the minimum test case !
I have disabled all Plugins containing netscape.security, From netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege('UniversalXPConnect');
including QuickEdit one of my favorite plugins but sadley the fault is still occurring.
Request
Given you are currently knee deep in the save code of tiddlyWiki could you please advise what plugin code could be interfering with this process and causing abends? I will then search for this code and disable plugins to see if I can eliminate it.
I will undertake another plugin disable and reenable elimination process because at least now the problem is predicable (assuming its that same).
FF Crash report below
Regards Tony
AdapterDeviceID: 0x0166
AdapterVendorID: 0x8086
Add-ons: tabletools2%40mingyi.org:1.17,%7B972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd%7D:21.0,jid0-lqtsBMO4PkjAOFcCt6zDcWsAXCU%40jetpack:0.2.4
AvailablePageFile: 2765107200
AvailablePhysicalMemory: 455303168
AvailableVirtualMemory: 520675328
BuildID: 20130511120803
CrashTime: 1370306476
EMCheckCompatibility: true
Email: anthony...@gmail.com
FramePoisonBase: 00000000f0de0000
FramePoisonSize: 65536
InstallTime: 1370305003
Notes: AdapterVendorID: 0x8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0x0166, AdapterSubsysID: 00031179, AdapterDriverVersion: 8.15.10.2712
D2D? D2D+ DWrite? DWrite+ D3D10 Layers? D3D10 Layers+ xpcom_runtime_abort(###!!! ABORT: OOM: file e:\builds\moz2_slave\rel-m-rel-w32_bld-000000000000\build\xpcom\string\src\nsTSubstring.cpp, line 291)
ProductID: {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}
ProductName: Firefox
ReleaseChannel: release
SecondsSinceLastCrash: 406
StartupTime: 1370306235
SystemMemoryUsePercentage: 86
Theme: classic/1.0
Throttleable: 1
TotalVirtualMemory: 2147352576
URL: file:///b:/TiddlyWiki/MasterDBV4.html
Vendor: Mozilla
Version: 21.0
Winsock_LSP: MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP] : 2 : 1 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IP] : 2 : 2 :
MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IP] : 2 : 3 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IPv6] : 2 : 1 :
MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IPv6] : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IPv6] : 2 : 3 :
RSVP TCPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 1 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
RSVP TCP Service Provider : 2 : 1 :
RSVP UDPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
RSVP UDP Service Provider : 2 : 2 :
VMCI sockets DGRAM : 0 : 2 : %windir%\system32\vsocklib.dll
VMCI sockets STREAM : 0 : 1 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] SEQPACKET 17 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] DATAGRAM 17 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] SEQPACKET 13 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] DATAGRAM 13 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] SEQPACKET 10 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] DATAGRAM 10 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] SEQPACKET 7 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] DATAGRAM 7 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] SEQPACKET 4 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] DATAGRAM 4 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] SEQPACKET 0 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] DATAGRAM 0 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] SEQPACKET 2 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] DATAGRAM 2 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] SEQPACKET 21 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] DATAGRAM 21 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{04A3E4C7-A637-4D7D-B241-E205E81378DF}] SEQPACKET 25 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{04A3E4C7-A637-4D7D-B241-E205E81378DF}] DATAGRAM 25 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{4CDE9167-C516-4870-8357-24259A3BCBC6}] SEQPACKET 24 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{4CDE9167-C516-4870-8357-24259A3BCBC6}] DATAGRAM 24 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2C37B797-F6D7-4367-AFC0-6C59DFDA0B3C}] SEQPACKET 23 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2C37B797-F6D7-4367-AFC0-6C59DFDA0B3C}] DATAGRAM 23 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] SEQPACKET 22 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] DATAGRAM 22 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] SEQPACKET 20 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] DATAGRAM 20 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{6FDB72DD-9837-4003-95AE-A61A7A6EB53D}] SEQPACKET 19 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{6FDB72DD-9837-4003-95AE-A61A7A6EB53D}] DATAGRAM 19 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{77926489-2F5D-48D2-A983-1A7E53E22D0A}] SEQPACKET 15 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{77926489-2F5D-48D2-A983-1A7E53E22D0A}] DATAGRAM 15 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{D3E94A1D-0F10-4F63-B5D0-12E11375CAB1}] SEQPACKET 12 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{D3E94A1D-0F10-4F63-B5D0-12E11375CAB1}] DATAGRAM 12 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{ABC3B15A-0A4D-4FEB-A638-76880EABDDFB}] SEQPACKET 9 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{ABC3B15A-0A4D-4FEB-A638-76880EABDDFB}] DATAGRAM 9 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2B68A915-447F-46E1-8EFD-7289D91235B6}] SEQPACKET 6 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2B68A915-447F-46E1-8EFD-7289D91235B6}] DATAGRAM 6 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] SEQPACKET 18 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] DATAGRAM 18 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{3601EF92-06D6-46CD-8C4D-D80EFC09289B}] SEQPACKET 16 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{3601EF92-06D6-46CD-8C4D-D80EFC09289B}] DATAGRAM 16 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] SEQPACKET 14 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] DATAGRAM 14 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] SEQPACKET 11 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] DATAGRAM 11 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] SEQPACKET 8 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] DATAGRAM 8 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] SEQPACKET 5 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] DATAGRAM 5 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] SEQPACKET 1 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] DATAGRAM 1 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{25F9ACEB-00A4-400F-963F-74695E5994F8}] SEQPACKET 3 : 2 : 5 :
MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{25F9ACEB-00A4-400F-963F-74695E5994F8}] DATAGRAM 3 : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.
Jeremy Ruston
Jun 4, 2013, 3:53:20 AM6/4/13
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H Tony
Excellent news that you can now repeat the problem reliably. When you say that the crash isn't occurring with the minimum test case, do you mean that you don't get the crash if you disable all the plugins in your document?
Best wishes
Jeremy
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TonyM
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Jeremy,
This is so Frustrating. My Last elegantly composed response seemed safe because by disabling various plugins I had found a potential subset of plugins that may be the cause of an immediate abend, I could save my tiddlywiki. Unfortunately before posting I though I would save my notes to you and once again abend.
I will re-post from one I will write in Notepad first - shortly
Tony
This is so Frustrating. My Last elegantly composed response seemed safe because by disabling various plugins I had found a potential subset of plugins that may be the cause of an immediate abend, I could save my tiddlywiki. Unfortunately before posting I though I would save my notes to you and once again abend.
I will re-post from one I will write in Notepad first - shortly
Tony
TonyM
Jun 4, 2013, 4:49:26 AM6/4/13
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If tiddlyFox is loaded it will save, but on occasion, after a period and some saves it seems to revert to the new code and abends
If TiddlyFox is not loaded then my MasterDBV4 tiddlywiki seems to revert to the new code in 2.8.0 and abends
The currently active plugins in MasterDBV4 are
AliasPlugin
BreadcrumbsPlugin
CalendarPlugin
CalendarPluginConfig
CheckboxPlugin
CommentPlugin
CookieJar
CookieManagerPlugin
CopyTiddlerPlugin
DatePlugin
DatePluginConfig
EditSectionPlugin
FootnotesPlugin
ForEachTiddlerPlugin
FramedLinksPlugin
GotoPlugin
HTMLFormattingPlugin
HideWhenPlugin
HoverMenuPlugin
InlineJavascriptPlugin
InlineTabsPlugin
InstantTimestampPlugin
ListboxPlugin
MptwLayoutPlugin
MultiTagEditorPlugin
MyCommentPlugin
NestedSlidersPlugin
NewHerePlugin
NewMeansNewPlugin
PartTiddlerPlugin
PopupMacro
QuickOpenTagPlugin
RecentChangesPlugin
ReminderPlugin
RenameTagsPlugin
RetagPlugin
SaveCloseTiddlerPlugin
SearchOptionsPlugin
SectionLinksPlugin
ShowPopupPlugin
ShowReferencesPlugin
StorySaverPlugin
StoryViewerPlugin
SystemInfoPlugin
TaggedTemplateTweak
TagglyTaggingPlugin
TagsplorerMacro
TiddlerListMacro
TiddlerNotesPlugin
TiddlersBarPlugin
ToggleTagPlugin
TrashPlugin
UndoPlugin
systemConfig
systemConfigOptions
My Minimum test case is an empty 2.8.0 tiddlywiki
If tiddlyFox is loaded it will save as it always used to
If TiddlyFox is not loaded then it reverts to the new code in 2.8.0 and works (Download Dialogue)
My Plugin Elimination process
Enabling TiddlyFox and Prey I do not get an abend
I then Tag sets of plugins as systemConfigDisable
Save and reload without tiddlyfox to see if an abend occurs
I seem to have reduced the set of offenders to the following
AliasPlugin
BreadcrumbsPlugin
HoverMenuPlugin
InstantTimestampPlugin
IntelliTaggerPlugin
MonkeyTaggerMacro
NewHerePlugin
that is one or more may be the cause of the immediate abend (without Firefox running)
However I have now got a delayed abend occurring.
When it abends in most cases the current tiddlywiki becomes Bytes in Size, just sometimes it does not save but remains the version when opened.
Please excuse the multiple posts, I am in fear of it abending.
Tony
On Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:53:20 UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
If TiddlyFox is not loaded then my MasterDBV4 tiddlywiki seems to revert to the new code in 2.8.0 and abends
The currently active plugins in MasterDBV4 are
AliasPlugin
BreadcrumbsPlugin
CalendarPlugin
CalendarPluginConfig
CheckboxPlugin
CommentPlugin
CookieJar
CookieManagerPlugin
CopyTiddlerPlugin
DatePlugin
DatePluginConfig
EditSectionPlugin
FootnotesPlugin
ForEachTiddlerPlugin
FramedLinksPlugin
GotoPlugin
HTMLFormattingPlugin
HideWhenPlugin
HoverMenuPlugin
InlineJavascriptPlugin
InlineTabsPlugin
InstantTimestampPlugin
ListboxPlugin
MptwLayoutPlugin
MultiTagEditorPlugin
MyCommentPlugin
NestedSlidersPlugin
NewHerePlugin
NewMeansNewPlugin
PartTiddlerPlugin
PopupMacro
QuickOpenTagPlugin
RecentChangesPlugin
ReminderPlugin
RenameTagsPlugin
RetagPlugin
SaveCloseTiddlerPlugin
SearchOptionsPlugin
SectionLinksPlugin
ShowPopupPlugin
ShowReferencesPlugin
StorySaverPlugin
StoryViewerPlugin
SystemInfoPlugin
TaggedTemplateTweak
TagglyTaggingPlugin
TagsplorerMacro
TiddlerListMacro
TiddlerNotesPlugin
TiddlersBarPlugin
ToggleTagPlugin
TrashPlugin
UndoPlugin
systemConfig
systemConfigOptions
My Minimum test case is an empty 2.8.0 tiddlywiki
If tiddlyFox is loaded it will save as it always used to
If TiddlyFox is not loaded then it reverts to the new code in 2.8.0 and works (Download Dialogue)
My Plugin Elimination process
Enabling TiddlyFox and Prey I do not get an abend
I then Tag sets of plugins as systemConfigDisable
Save and reload without tiddlyfox to see if an abend occurs
I seem to have reduced the set of offenders to the following
AliasPlugin
BreadcrumbsPlugin
HoverMenuPlugin
InstantTimestampPlugin
IntelliTaggerPlugin
MonkeyTaggerMacro
NewHerePlugin
that is one or more may be the cause of the immediate abend (without Firefox running)
However I have now got a delayed abend occurring.
When it abends in most cases the current tiddlywiki becomes Bytes in Size, just sometimes it does not save but remains the version when opened.
Please excuse the multiple posts, I am in fear of it abending.
Tony
On Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:53:20 UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
TonyM
Jun 4, 2013, 7:20:46 AM6/4/13
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Ok,
So here is the outcome. Through a Comprehensive disabling of all plugins I could not identify any that were responsible. In Fact I can reproduce the fault without any plugins active at all. My TiddlyWiki 2.8.0 running on FireFox FF 21.0 and using TiddlyFox alpha16.
I am usually fine if I am running TiddlyFox however see below. When I am not running tiddlyfox and the save routine is used I all-most always immediately get a FF abend since updating tiddlywiki
It seems to be clear that when TiddlyFox Does its job and the new save routines are not used, save proceeds without fault - however after a period of time eventually tiddlyFox seems to fail intermittently and an presumable passes the save effort to another routine an abend occurs.
My TiddlyWiki is 13,728 KB in size, could there be a fault relating to this size, which is otherwise fine, or a timeout in TiddlyFox or tiddlywiki or FF when saving ?
I am starting to migrate my personal database to an alternative.
Yours Sincerely TonyM
On Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:53:20 UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
So here is the outcome. Through a Comprehensive disabling of all plugins I could not identify any that were responsible. In Fact I can reproduce the fault without any plugins active at all. My TiddlyWiki 2.8.0 running on FireFox FF 21.0 and using TiddlyFox alpha16.
I am usually fine if I am running TiddlyFox however see below. When I am not running tiddlyfox and the save routine is used I all-most always immediately get a FF abend since updating tiddlywiki
It seems to be clear that when TiddlyFox Does its job and the new save routines are not used, save proceeds without fault - however after a period of time eventually tiddlyFox seems to fail intermittently and an presumable passes the save effort to another routine an abend occurs.
My TiddlyWiki is 13,728 KB in size, could there be a fault relating to this size, which is otherwise fine, or a timeout in TiddlyFox or tiddlywiki or FF when saving ?
I am starting to migrate my personal database to an alternative.
Yours Sincerely TonyM
On Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:53:20 UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
Eric Shulman
Jun 4, 2013, 10:06:49 AM6/4/13
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On Jun 4, 6:57 am, Branimir Braykov <bray...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, but now the upgrade process works somehow strange:
> My upgraded wiki has been merged with the full TiddlyWiki.com content.
> I am on Chrome, Windows7, 32bit.
> Is it me or....?
AHHH! I posted the WRONG TW2.8.0 file for the upgrade. It was
supposed to be the empty.html (no content), not the index.html
(tiddlywiki.com content). I've put the corrected file in place.
Upgrading should work properly now.
-e
Eric Shulman
Jun 4, 2013, 10:24:57 AM6/4/13
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> FireFox FF 21.0 and using TiddlyFox alpha16.
The problem you are having doesn't sound like a coding error in
TiddlyWiki's file I/O handlers, but rather some kind of internal
memory leakage from FireFox.
I took a quick look through the DUMP output you posted. Most of it is
a complete mystery, but seems like generic crash trace output. One
line that stood out as being, perhaps, more informative, is this:
------------------------------
xpcom_runtime_abort(###!!! ABORT: OOM: file
> >> e:\builds\moz2_slave\rel-m-rel-w32_bld-000000000000\build\xpcom\string\src\ nsTSubstring.cpp
------------------------------
> >> e:\builds\moz2_slave\rel-m-rel-w32_bld-000000000000\build\xpcom\string\src\ nsTSubstring.cpp
According to mozilla.org documentation, this file is part of the
internal library that handles 8-bit and 16-bit character strings:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_internal_string_guide
------------------
The string classes are a library of C++ classes which are used to
manage buffers of wide (16-bit) and narrow (8-bit) character strings.
The library headers are in the xpcom/string/public directory, and the
implementation is in the xpcom/string/src directory.
----------------------
Do you have any FireFox browser add-ons installed? Have you tried
using a fresh FireFox profile?
-e
cdent
Jun 4, 2013, 12:19:02 PM6/4/13
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tiddlywebwiki[1] and as a result is now the default TiddlyWiki in
TiddlySpace[2].
Also, because of some adjustments Eric (thanks!) made to the build
process, various versions of TiddlyWiki are available depending on how
you set your ServerSettings[3] tiddler.
If you state
twrelease: beta
you'll get the most recent beta (which is now older than the mainline
release).
If you state
twrelease: beta
external: True
You'll get the most recent beta with an externalized core.
And finally if you state:
external: True
you'll get the current mainline with an externalized core.
You can also do things like this:
http://cdent-t15.tiddlyspace.com/?twrelease=beta
Note that TiddlySpace will always run a few days behind Eric's release
schedule because at the moment the files are gathered up and released
in a semi manual process.
[1] http://tiddlyweb.tiddlyspace.com/tiddlywebwiki
[2] http://tiddlyspace.com
[3] http://docs.tiddlyspace.com/ServerSettings%20shadow%20tiddler
TonyM
Jun 4, 2013, 7:43:15 PM6/4/13
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Eric,
Thanks for some analysis on this. I have had the FF abend problem for some time, This has been occurring under a number of different FF versions, TiddlyFox and plugin combinations including no FF extensions. In the tests presented by me in this thread only TiddlyFox (or not), Table Tools2 1.17 and Copy HTML 0.2.4 were installed and enabled.
I have disabled all FF Extensions (Not plugins) including TiddlyFox (and disabled TiddlyLockPlugin) and the problem still occurs.
I wonder why the dump refers to E:\ which is not on my machine. ?
Regards
Tony
Thanks for some analysis on this. I have had the FF abend problem for some time, This has been occurring under a number of different FF versions, TiddlyFox and plugin combinations including no FF extensions. In the tests presented by me in this thread only TiddlyFox (or not), Table Tools2 1.17 and Copy HTML 0.2.4 were installed and enabled.
I have disabled all FF Extensions (Not plugins) including TiddlyFox (and disabled TiddlyLockPlugin) and the problem still occurs.
I wonder why the dump refers to E:\ which is not on my machine. ?
Regards
Tony
Eric Shulman
Jun 5, 2013, 2:32:45 PM6/5/13
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> A Minor Criticism about Presentation*
...
a general scraping away of "old paint". Here's some of my thoughts:
There's a few different kinds of content being presented:
* basic introduction and step-by-step download/setup instructions
* reference information (formatting, browser-specific issues, etc.)
* current version status and update details
etc.
* A lot of the current "intro" content could certainly be written
differently so that it grabs "potential users" and walks them through
download/installation with a step-by-step "wizard" style.
* The "status" content (or at least a link to it) could be featured
more prominently "above the fold" (i.e., visible without scrolling the
initial page display)
* There's also been some significant changes in the "download" and
"file saving" functionality that needs to be properly explained in the
various bits of browser-specific reference materials.
In general, I think the site needs a major infusion of "energy":
simpler, cleaner content, more interaction with "bright shiny buttons"
to click on... things like that.
Documentation updates are actually quite near the top of my "to do"
list, so you might see some re-writes happening soon. If you have
some specific content you would like to suggest... feel free to post
it (or send it to me privately if you prefer). If you post it online,
I suggest starting a new thread (e.g., "TiddlyWiki.com content
suggestions").
enjoy,
-e
...
> I think prospective users would conclude from the current content that TW
> is a stale project.
Admittedly, the current documentation is a bit "stale" and in need of
> is a stale project.
a general scraping away of "old paint". Here's some of my thoughts:
There's a few different kinds of content being presented:
* basic introduction and step-by-step download/setup instructions
* reference information (formatting, browser-specific issues, etc.)
* current version status and update details
etc.
* A lot of the current "intro" content could certainly be written
differently so that it grabs "potential users" and walks them through
download/installation with a step-by-step "wizard" style.
* The "status" content (or at least a link to it) could be featured
more prominently "above the fold" (i.e., visible without scrolling the
initial page display)
* There's also been some significant changes in the "download" and
"file saving" functionality that needs to be properly explained in the
various bits of browser-specific reference materials.
In general, I think the site needs a major infusion of "energy":
simpler, cleaner content, more interaction with "bright shiny buttons"
to click on... things like that.
Documentation updates are actually quite near the top of my "to do"
list, so you might see some re-writes happening soon. If you have
some specific content you would like to suggest... feel free to post
it (or send it to me privately if you prefer). If you post it online,
I suggest starting a new thread (e.g., "TiddlyWiki.com content
suggestions").
enjoy,
-e
TonyM
Jun 6, 2013, 7:45:10 PM6/6/13
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I am now running TiddlyWiki 2.8.0 and FF 21.0 with only the Java (TM) Platform SE U21 10.21.2.11 FF Plugin running.
With TiddlyFox Disabled if I try and save an unchanged since opening TiddlyWiki I get a firefox Crash.
With TiddlyFox Disabled if I try and save an changed since opening TiddlyWiki I get a failure to save the tiddlywiki using the new Save Dialogue.
With TiddlyFox enabled so far I have not had a crash but it now apears when and if tiddlyfox fails to support the save effort (For some reason occuring after a period of time) and it falls back to using the alternate save method (Original in TW 2.7.X and new one in 2.8.0) a inability to save or a crash occurs.
My Guess would be for a stable platfom there is a bug in both TiddlyFox and TW Native save routines - and has been for some time now only brought into focus by the more consistent abend process in the new fall back save routines.
Some more help please dear TiddlyWiki Experts. This is out of my depth.
You long term and dependent tiddlywiki user - TonyM
With TiddlyFox Disabled if I try and save an unchanged since opening TiddlyWiki I get a firefox Crash.
With TiddlyFox Disabled if I try and save an changed since opening TiddlyWiki I get a failure to save the tiddlywiki using the new Save Dialogue.
With TiddlyFox enabled so far I have not had a crash but it now apears when and if tiddlyfox fails to support the save effort (For some reason occuring after a period of time) and it falls back to using the alternate save method (Original in TW 2.7.X and new one in 2.8.0) a inability to save or a crash occurs.
My Guess would be for a stable platfom there is a bug in both TiddlyFox and TW Native save routines - and has been for some time now only brought into focus by the more consistent abend process in the new fall back save routines.
Some more help please dear TiddlyWiki Experts. This is out of my depth.
You long term and dependent tiddlywiki user - TonyM
Jeremy Ruston
Jun 7, 2013, 3:38:43 AM6/7/13
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Hi Tony
Thanks for the thoughtful notes, very useful. I'd add that the memory dump you attached suggests that the cause of the crash is an out of memory condition.
The central observation is that you get a consistent crash after making changes and trying to save with TiddlyFox disabled. My only minor query would be whether you could repeat the tests with Java disabled, just to remove as many variables as possible?
Otherwise, one useful next step would be to be able to duplicate the behaviour you're seeing. Can you remind me of your setup, including RAM?
Many thanks,
Jeremy
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Just shows a blank page in IE8 Win7. Get error "object missing".
cdent
Jun 9, 2013, 11:04:35 AM6/9/13
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On Jun 7, 11:07 am, magev958 <magnus.ev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just shows a blank page in IE8 Win7. Get error "object missing".
Someone on TiddlySpace has independently pointed this out as well. It
> Just shows a blank page in IE8 Win7. Get error "object missing".
appears the problem is in all of IE 6, 7 and 8, starting from a plain
jane empty.html (that is TiddlySpace has nothing to do with it).
I've made a pull request on github that has a potential fix. I'm
hoping Eric is able to integrate it or something like it soon.
chris...@gmail.com
Jun 9, 2013, 11:05:49 AM6/9/13
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, cdent wrote:
> I've made a pull request on github that has a potential fix. I'm
> hoping Eric is able to integrate it or something like it soon.
Forgot the link:
> I've made a pull request on github that has a potential fix. I'm
> hoping Eric is able to integrate it or something like it soon.
https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/pull/135
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