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Eris of StrongHold [STRM]

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Sep 8, 2008, 10:48:05 AM9/8/08
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excludeList tag should exclude tiddler from <<tag>> list right?
Still showing up in my drop downs . . . (miniTag)

Am I doing something wrong, or missing something?

FND

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Sep 8, 2008, 11:13:11 AM9/8/08
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> excludeList tag should exclude tiddler from <<tag>> list right?

It's "excludeLists" (plural) - that should do the trick.


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Eris of StrongHold [STRM]

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Sep 8, 2008, 12:58:06 PM9/8/08
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oops, typo, I did use excludeLists - which works on the surface, but
my miniTag still shows item. . .
I.E. my TagDB tiddler for TaggerPlugin is tagged with all of my common
tags, and excludeLists.

thx,
Mike

Eric Shulman

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Sep 8, 2008, 1:43:05 PM9/8/08
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> I did use excludeLists - which works on the surface, but
> my miniTag still shows item. . .
> I.E. my TagDB tiddler for TaggerPlugin is tagged with all of my common
> tags, and excludeLists.

Although the excludeLists tag can often be used to prevent certain
tiddlers from being returned by some TW core functions, this behavior
is **not strictly enforced** at all times.

For example, this code:
store.getTiddlers('title');
returns *all* tiddlers, sorted by title, regardless of tags, while
this:
store.getTiddlers('title','excludeLists');
returns all tiddlers, sorted by title, except for those tagged with
'excludeLists'

Similarly, this function:
store.getTaggedTiddlers('someTag','title')
returns all tiddlers tagged with 'someTag', sorted by title, and
includes tiddlers tagged with 'excludeLists'. It is left to the
plugin code to then determine if it should eliminate those tiddlers,
based on the particular needs of that plugin.

Thus, it is entirely possible that the TaggerPlugin (or
MiniTagPlugin?) is not filtering for the 'excludeLists' tag, and the
problem is isolated to that plugin, rather than being either a bug in
the core or incorrect use of the tag on your part. I suggest
attempting to directly contact the developer of the specific plugin(s)
involved to see if they can provide further explanation or perhaps a
workaround or even an outright 'fix' for this issue.

HTH,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

Eric Shulman

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Sep 8, 2008, 1:51:18 PM9/8/08
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> Thus, it is entirely possible that the TaggerPlugin (or
> MiniTagPlugin?) is not filtering for the 'excludeLists' tag, and the

Although your current question refers to a problem with the TW core
<<tag>> macro, in a separate thread you mentioned use of the
TaggerPlugin in your document. If I recall correctly, that plugin
actually *modifies* the handling for the core <<tag>> macro, so it may
still be the culprit, even though it may appear that this is a core
problem.

Eris of StrongHold [STRM]

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Sep 8, 2008, 7:57:53 PM9/8/08
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Eris of StrongHold [STRM]

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Sep 8, 2008, 9:25:51 PM9/8/08
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TaggerPlugin uses: var tagged = store.getTaggedTiddlers(tag);


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Eris of StrongHold [STRM]

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Sep 9, 2008, 12:47:39 AM9/9/08
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QuickOpenPlugin uses: var tagged =
store.getTaggedTiddlers(tiddler.title);

Sorry for multiple posts - looking & poking around while the baby
sleeps :)

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Eris of StrongHold [STRM]

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Sep 11, 2008, 12:57:14 AM9/11/08
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Off to work . . .
Let me know if anyone has any ideas or suggestion (I did Email Mr.
Baird a link to this topic)

Thx for all the help !!

Mike

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Eris of StrongHold [STRM]

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Oct 15, 2008, 5:43:17 PM10/15/08
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Found a solution Here:
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiDev/browse_thread/thread/1eb7f8fddaf25230/452e757d7e4439ea?hl=en#452e757d7e4439ea

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