http://tasker.dinglisch.net/beta.html
*Before* installing:
- make a profile data backup and copy it somewhere safe
- turn on Menu / Prefs / Misc / Debug To System Log
- enabling Menu / Prefs / Misc / Run Log might also be useful
*After* install:
- download the new version of docs and help texts *to SD*. The online
versions are not updated
- make regular backups
If you have a crash, don't ask 'should I send a log', just send it,
see the email in Menu / Info / Support. If possible, please describe
what you were doing at the time (if in the UI) or what task/profile/
scene function you think might be relevant. Don't be surprised if it
crashes immediately; there's a lot of data conversion going on to keep
it backwards compatible.
Note 1: This version is completely untested, and not adapted for, ICS.
During the beta-testing period I'll be updating for ICS.
Note 2: I'm aware there are missing help texts for some scene element
actions. Other missing links and types I'd love to hear about.
Apology: I had posted that you could overlay the keyguard with
controls. That turned out not to be correct. You can put an Overlay
(see Show Scene) over the Keyguard (for informational purposes), but
not a Blocking Overlay
(which is necessary for user-interaction).
Question 1: does Cell Near work better when the display is off ? If
not, try enabling Menu / Prefs / Monitor / Cell/Net Wakeup, does that
help ?
Question 2: what should I do with the free Menu space on the main
screen ? I thought of using it for toggling the project bar, but most
people won't use projects.
Sorry for the epic post!
Pent
Can't load states from old config, didn't test that :-)
Pent
Had some other issues come up too, hence delay.
Pent
Did you install the correct beta ? What does it say for version in
Menu / Info / About ? You need to give it 20 minutes as well if I
recall.
> Can't restore, import tasks or profiles as far as I can see. (maybe
> that's what you meant by states, so already known?)
In what way 'can't' ?
> Seems difficult to change order in a task by dragging as the popup cut/
> copy/insert action comes up comes up.
It's changed, there are faded drag bars on the right now, you don't
long click anymore. Same on the main screen.
Pent
> Did you install the correct beta ? What does it say for version in
> Menu / Info / About ? You need to give it 20 minutes as well if I
> recall.
Version 1.21bm
On the device contacting market after 20 minutes:
Error : unknown application or version, maybe you need to update.
> > Can't restore, import tasks or profiles as far as I can see. (maybe
> > that's what you meant by states, so already known?)
> In what way 'can't' ?
Ah, now I've found it by long pressing say tasks at the top of the
screen I get Import or set sort. I've always gone from the main menu
but now I can't find it.
> > Seems difficult to change order in a task by dragging as the popup cut/
> > copy/insert action comes up comes up.
> It's changed, there are faded drag bars on the right now, you don't
> long click anymore. Same on the main screen.
Didn't see them, more like barely visible, but there they are,
excellent.
See, you need numpties like me to Beta test really.
I'll now upgrade.
Ah, that's the stupid Market licence checker refusing to accept a
version higher than the once it knows about and putting out a
completely unrelated error message.
It happened because you deleted the old version (or cleared its data).
You need to delete the new version, install 1.1.1u2m, get validated,
installed 1.2b2m (without deleting first).
> Didn't see them, more like barely visible, but there they are,
> excellent.
I didn't want them to disturb, especially on the main screen. You
don't have to touch the actual bars, they just mark the area where
dragging starts.
Pent
When I installed the non-market version on my daily device, it added a
second version, with the 1.1 turned off and the 1.2b turned on. Both
can be used at the same time?
One day you are going to run out of ways to make your app better. One
day soon. This is the first app anyone should install on their
device. And I love bragging about it to the iDiots.
On Dec 18, 1:37 pm, Duck Redbeard <duckredbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 18 pro, 13:58, Pent <supp...@apps.dinglisch.net> wrote:
I've just emailed you my alogcat file as an attachment.
I attempted to access Tasker three times throughout the duration of
the log file, each which resulted in a Force Close error.
Just tried to install beta rev2 and:
1. it installed and then followed up with a Force Close error before I
had a chance to click open.
2. Acknowledged the Force Close then clicked open to be faced with
another Force Close error
3. Went to my Android Home screen then into the Applications page and
opened Tasker from there. Force close again.
Unfortunately, unable to get into this new beta.
Running on a Samsung Galaxy S2 i9100
Android 2.3.6 Gingerbread.XWKK2
Hope this helps with a fix?
Wojtek
On Dec 18, 10:58 pm, Pent <supp...@apps.dinglisch.net> wrote:
> Download:
>
> http://tasker.dinglisch.net/beta.html
>
> *Before* installing:
>
> - make a profile data backup and copy it somewhere safe
> - turn on Menu / Prefs / Misc / Debug To System Log
> - enabling Menu / Prefs / Misc / Run Log might also be useful
>
Android bug.
Pent
Cell Near work better
Thanks for the feedback, guess I may as well take out the Wakeup
option.
> I've test it with 550 seconds time delay in Display turned off mode. (With
> that delay phone goes to deep sleep - verified)
> HTC Incredible S (android 2.3.5 kernel 2.6.35.14)
>
> so, how to make projects? Guide does not clear :(
In 'Help This Screen' on the main screen, in the Projects section:
<LI><B>Long-click</B> on a project tab for options, including
adding a new tab
Pent
Didn't work for me this morning. Samsung Galaxy S2 - 2.6.35.14-Siyah
Kernel, Andorid 2.3.7.
I'll have another play later. Ta.
I've just realised, it's disabling the drag bars at the right if the
sort isn't user. Which is stupid because then you can't move between
projects... will fix.
> - in Scene - Element Image I can't enter a Variable as image which doesn't
> make it very flexible
You can set it with Element Image in the Scenes category, which will
take a variable I think.
> - is there a way to make the text in Scene - Text scrollable?
Good plan :-)
> - when creating a Scene, if I set the size to max clicking the Zoom button
> doesn't switch between the 2 modes
Heh, weird.
Pent
Ah, looks like I've tied it in to the UI option 'Main Screen' options
Short Click Action and Long Click Action. Guess that's good, makes it
consistent, but I should move the preference out of the Main Screen
category.
You drag on the right now, without long-click.
> 2) annoying feature: in the task edit window/profiles list etc. touching
> near the right edge of an item triggers "move" action. Since I got used to
> scrolling items on the far right of the screen, I tend to mess things now ;)
I think after a short while you'll think, wow this is really easy and
fast, just touch and drag. That's how it was with me anyway.
> 3) bug (?): in the task edit window, some action's settings are marked as
> ??? (e.g. Wifi ???, not Wifi Off), but the task seems to work still as
> expected (screenshot will follow in a separate email),
Are you maybe in a non-English language ?
Pent
Ah, you mean you had an action label and it didn't go over, but the
actions were OK ?
Pent
On Dec 19, 9:27 am, V Oz <v.ozzzz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 7) layout issue: when dragging profile between projects - finger hovers
> over "Project N+1", but highlighted "Project N" and profile (task ..)
> dropped into "Profile N". So, last Project became unaccessible. (workaround
> is to shift it to left)
If you clear data and create a new tab manually, does it still
happen ? Maybe it's a result of your point 8) below.
> 8) All my profiles was imported into projects with shift by 1 to left :)
> (I've used User layout in v. 1.1.)
I think I've got that fixed next time.
Pent
The home tab disappears ?
Pent
Try the Menu / Prefs / Monitor / Net/Cell Wakeup.
Help ?
Pent
> 1) bug (I believe): in the task edit window, long pressing an action
> deletes it,Ah, looks like I've tied it in to the UI option 'Main Screen' options
Short Click Action and Long Click Action. Guess that's good, makes it
consistent, but I should move the preference out of the Main Screen
category.
> 2) annoying feature: in the task edit window/profiles list etc. touching
> near the right edge of an item triggers "move" action. Since I got used to
> scrolling items on the far right of the screen, I tend to mess things now ;)I think after a short while you'll think, wow this is really easy and
fast, just touch and drag. That's how it was with me anyway.
> 3) bug (?): in the task edit window, some action's settings are marked as
> ??? (e.g. Wifi ???, not Wifi Off), but the task seems to work still as
> expected (screenshot will follow in a separate email),Are you maybe in a non-English language ?
> - in Scene - Element Image I can't enter a Variable as image which doesn't
> make it very flexible
You can set it with Element Image in the Scenes category, which will
take a variable I think.
noticed a few things:- with Profile Auto-Collapse Mania set to 0, Tasker doesn't remember if a Profile was open or closedit just opens all Profiles upon startup
On Dec 19, 10:05 am, "david.james.br...@gmail.com"
Do you mean in the action edit screen ? I couldn't reproduce that, it
appeared in both orientations.
Pent
You've got 'long-click' set to delete in your prefs I guess.
> - single click takes you to editing action/task directly (without popup
> window with actions available) - now it takes additional click to edit
> every single action,
Also a prefs thing. The default is as you suggest now.
> - long press shows a dialog, where all options, including delete are
> presented,
That's default now.
> - dragging an item to thrash can allows quick delete if needed.
Also possible (only in user-sort with the current beta, it's a bug).
> How about moving the "drag section" from the far right to the far left
> instead? :) For me, right-handed, it is more natural to scroll on the right
> (this is what I do most often) and if needed - drag it on the left side.
Will wait for complaints for others on that, seems fine to me.
Pent
Urk, yes, somewhere deep down I knew that was going to happen but it's
didn't make enough noise.
Pent
OK, I'll try it with import from old, thanks.
Pent
Fixed next version.
Pent
With or without the wakeup preference ?
Pent
Hmm.
> 13) Show Scene action: how about swapping up and down in the vertical
> slider?
Both of them being full at the left meaning the scene is shown in
bottom left doesn't seem right to me.
> 15) Show Scene action: there should be a default option set for every scene
> that touching anywhere in the scene closes it - it's extremally easy to end
> up in a scene that overlays crucial parts of your desktop preventing you
> from getting rid of it. :) Or maybe additional option: by default hide
> scenes when Tasker is active.
I think I like that second one most.
Pent
I put it in the new growing-fast Scenes section of the todo list :-)
Pent
Not everything reported has been addressed I wanted to get the big
show-stoppers fixed first.
Notably, Calendar stuff should work on ICS now too.
Pent
I'm not sure why my profile this morning didn't switch off.
Background:
I have a profile where the lock screen is disabled when i'm at home -
i.e. using Cell Near.
I walked 10 mins down the street, switched the screen on and the phone
was not locked. I then immediately switched the screen off, then on.
It was then locked.
Thanks
> 13) Show Scene action: how about swapping up and down in the vertical
> slider?Both of them being full at the left meaning the scene is shown in
bottom left doesn't seem right to me.
> 15) Show Scene action: there should be a default option set for every scene
> that touching anywhere in the scene closes it - it's extremally easy to end
> up in a scene that overlays crucial parts of your desktop preventing you
> from getting rid of it. :) Or maybe additional option: by default hide
> scenes when Tasker is active.I think I like that second one most.
> That's after auto-import of my data. I've edit (just open action and save
> it) all my stuff and it's become OK.OK, I'll try it with import from old, thanks.
> 12) scenes: resizing a scene is a bit akward and not very precise (i.e.
> dragging the scene with a finger) - can this be done using arrows?Hmm.
Didn't look at that one yet. I'm a bit time-short with Christmas and
all :-)
Pent
I have some profile, that have "cell near" context, it doesn't start
even if I turn on a unlock phone. But what is weird, if I'm in that
profile, and go outside "cell near" location, profile automaticaly
turn off even with screen turn off!
I tried turn on "Net/Cell Wakeup", but it didn't help.
I think, that this behaviour must do some of previus update.
Can you please look at it?
A.
BR,
A.
First problem I noticed is that it did not import my previous Profiles
and Tasks from Tasker 1.1u2 completely and some settings values came
across as ??? or *. For example,
Action: Notification volume = * (should be 0)
Action: Vibrate on notify = ??? (should be off)
Action: Wait: * Hours * Minutes 5 Seconds
Action: Music Play Start = * (should be 0).
I had to manually go through all my profiles and tasks to rectify the
actions so that they no longer showed either ??? or *.
In doing so, I identified the following bugs:
1. Flash was popping up regularly from tasker with error: Code 3:
java.lang.NumberFormatException: Infinity.
2. Menu task action: Layout, Icon Grid Menu are not showing icons,
they are all coming across as empty boxes.
3. Long press task action deletes the action without a prompt to
confirm if I wish to delete this.
4. Pop up box (from Action: Alert >> Popup) is too small and text is
too small also. If there is too much text in the box, the text is cut
off the bottom of the box and not autoresized like in previous
versions of Tasker. Need a fit box to text option to be brought back
to fit text quantity and size.
5. Pop up box (from Action: Alert >> Popup) is not being cleared off
by tapping popup or anywhere in screen. Popup box is only cleared when
hardware back button is tapped.
6. Scenes: When editing popup box >> text box, Tap tab text is green.
When tap tab is clicked, tasker force closes.
7. Scenes: Unable to resize existing default scenes, i.e. Popup box is
250 x 200. Unable to make this bigger.
8. Scenes: Need popup autosize to text option.
On a positive note, here are some things I like about the changes :-)
1. Grouping of if commands in a task
2. Traffic lights style if qualification of task actions
3. popup reviews from within task action properties
4. Editing of Perform Task from within task action properties (i.e.
multi level task editing)
5. Faster and more responsive Tasker system.
Thank you for all your hard work so far Pent! :-)
Sorry, could you start a new topic for this ? The thread is already
crowded enough with beta-specific issues.
Thanks,
Pent
Nothing in the log ? What's the source of the icons ?
> I dont understand at the moment at all how it works (how does it know >where to put multiple elements etc.)
A normal Menu elelement just fills the items from top left in the
space you've given it. A Menu action picks an element and scene size
depending on how many items you've setup.
> 17) related to above: it seems that a newly created scene can be picked in a task but it will not work (e.g. by testing a task) until leaving Tasker and applying settings,
True, it's not easy to get around that. It's the same when e.g. your
tested task has a Perform Task pointing to a newly created task. Until
you've saved the data, the execute service doesn't know about anything
new except the task it receives.
> 18) related to above: when playing with a scene, at some point I ended up with a tab Item List, showing (1). However, the window was empty. Only after pressing the plus key, the new item popped up along with the existing one (Flash "Example"). This situation reproduced with larger number of items as well.
Any idea when that occurs ? And how is it related to 17 ?
Pent
I'll put it on todo, but it's not trivial to switch the side of the
drag.
Pent
Could you send me a system log afterwards ?
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/faq-how.html#x
> 2. Menu task action: Layout, Icon Grid Menu are not showing icons,
> they are all coming across as empty boxes.
Ah, Adam mentioned that. Are they showing up OK in the Menu action
edit screen ? Are they Ipack icons, or ?
> 3. Long press task action deletes the action without a prompt to
> confirm if I wish to delete this.
You can change the controls with Menu / Prefs / UI / Long Click
Action. Maybe
we need a new pref for deleting actions confirmation however.
> 4. Pop up box (from Action: Alert >> Popup) is too small and text is
> too small also.
Go to the Scenes tab, click on Popup, make it bigger or reduce the
text size.
> If there is too much text in the box, the text is cut
> off the bottom of the box and not autoresized
Autoresized ?? Was it not scrollable ?
> 5. Pop up box (from Action: Alert >> Popup) is not being cleared off
> by tapping popup or anywhere in screen. Popup box is only cleared when
> hardware back button is tapped.
You can tap the text. I agree you should be able to tap anywhere in
the box.
> 7. Scenes: Unable to resize existing default scenes, i.e. Popup box is
> 250 x 200. Unable to make this bigger.
Why not ? In the scene editor click the magnifying glass and drag the
edges of the scene. More info in Menu / Help This Screen.
Thanks for your input!
Pent
You're welcome Stefan, always good to see you around.
Froeliche Weinachten!
Pent
Good idea (until the first drag).
Pent
> 16) a Popup Task Icons widget has not been migrated properly either. It >shows a 3-icon grid but without icons (it reacts properly to taps). When >viewing the action menu, it shows icons properly in each position.Nothing in the log ? What's the source of the icons ?
> I dont understand at the moment at all how it works (how does it know >where to put multiple elements etc.)
A normal Menu elelement just fills the items from top left in the
space you've given it. A Menu action picks an element and scene size
depending on how many items you've setup.
> 18) related to above: when playing with a scene, at some point I ended up with a tab Item List, showing (1). However, the window was empty. Only after pressing the plus key, the new item popped up along with the existing one (Flash "Example"). This situation reproduced with larger number of items as well.
Any idea when that occurs ? And how is it related to 17 ?
On Dec 20, 7:51 pm, Pent <supp...@apps.dinglisch.net> wrote:
> > 1. Flash was popping up regularly from tasker with error: Code 3:
> > java.lang.NumberFormatException: Infinity.
>
> Could you send me a system log afterwards ?
Sorry, I sent it to you by email.
>
> http://tasker.dinglisch.net/faq-how.html#x
>
> > 2. Menu task action: Layout, Icon Grid Menu are not showing icons,
> > they are all coming across as empty boxes.
>
> Ah, Adam mentioned that. Are they showing up OK in the Menu action
> edit screen ? Are they Ipack icons, or ?
No, most icons are the built-in icons from Tasker 1.1u2
>
> > 3. Long press task action deletes the action without a prompt to
> > confirm if I wish to delete this.
>
> You can change the controls with Menu / Prefs / UI / Long Click
> Action. Maybe
> we need a new pref for deleting actions confirmation however.
Thanks. A Delete confirmation dialog would help also. :-)
>
> > 4. Pop up box (from Action: Alert >> Popup) is too small and text is
> > too small also.
>
> Go to the Scenes tab, click on Popup, make it bigger or reduce the
> text size.
>
> > If there is too much text in the box, the text is cut
> > off the bottom of the box and not autoresized
>
> Autoresized ?? Was it not scrollable ?
Did not experience scrollable although did not try in this instance.
Would prefer an option to select text size and dialog/popup box
autoresizes to suit the text, just like Tasker 1.1u2.
>
> > 5. Pop up box (from Action: Alert >> Popup) is not being cleared off
> > by tapping popup or anywhere in screen. Popup box is only cleared when
> > hardware back button is tapped.
>
> You can tap the text. I agree you should be able to tap anywhere in
> the box.
Thanks, yes, tapping the text worked.
>
> > 7. Scenes: Unable to resize existing default scenes, i.e. Popup box is
> > 250 x 200. Unable to make this bigger.
>
> Why not ? In the scene editor click the magnifying glass and drag the
> edges of the scene. More info in Menu / Help This Screen.
>
Yes, it did work after fiddling around a bit, however doing so is a
bit fiddly. Would prefer the old popup resize to text content method
from the old Tasker as an option. :-)
> Thanks for your input!
>
> Pent
No probs, happy to take part in the testing! :-)
Thanks for the screeny, I could reproduce it.
Pent
Yes, well, I sure have enough problems to fix for now :-)
I'm going to close this one and will start a new thread for the next
beta in some days.
Thanks for the feedback so far!
Pent
Pent