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何子林, Felix Linker2

Sep 24

Question about Modeling ECIES_MAC in Tamarin

Hi Hezl, You ask a very involved question about detailed aspects of a complex protocol. It is not

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Question about Modeling ECIES_MAC in Tamarin

Hi Hezl, You ask a very involved question about detailed aspects of a complex protocol. It is not

Sep 24

Ardek Veri, Cas Cremers2

Sep 18

About non-termination

Hi all, There exists no criterion. Pragmatically though, after two days, I would personally start

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About non-termination

Hi all, There exists no criterion. Pragmatically though, after two days, I would personally start

Sep 18

Daniel Zimmerman, Cas Cremers3

Sep 1

Minimization/Pruning of Proof Scripts?

Thanks for getting back to me! I have tried exactly what you suggested in the past, with varying

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Minimization/Pruning of Proof Scripts?

Thanks for getting back to me! I have tried exactly what you suggested in the past, with varying

Sep 1

Daniel Zimmerman, Felix Linker3

Aug 7

A Question on Partial Deconstructions

Felix, That was very helpful, thanks. And what you said about partial deconstructions basically

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A Question on Partial Deconstructions

Felix, That was very helpful, thanks. And what you said about partial deconstructions basically

Aug 7

Aug 6

Tamarin book now available from Springer Nature

Dear all, We are happy to report that physical copies of our Tamarin book have now started to ship

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Tamarin book now available from Springer Nature

Dear all, We are happy to report that physical copies of our Tamarin book have now started to ship

Aug 6

Nikodem Witkiewicz

Jul 21

help with partial deconstructions caused by iterative rules and equations.

Dear All, I'm working on my master's thesis, where I focus on cryptography using bilinear

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help with partial deconstructions caused by iterative rules and equations.

Dear All, I'm working on my master's thesis, where I focus on cryptography using bilinear

Jul 21

Jul 10

Help with introducing some equational theories

Dear All, I am trying to work on protocols to verify their security, and I am very new to Tamarin .

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Help with introducing some equational theories

Dear All, I am trying to work on protocols to verify their security, and I am very new to Tamarin .

Jul 10

Daniel Zimmerman, Felix Linker4

Jun 19

Hang while Saturating Sources

As a quick follow-up, I decided after watching some verbose output to see if cutting down the

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Hang while Saturating Sources

As a quick follow-up, I decided after watching some verbose output to see if cutting down the

Jun 19

William Harrison, Cas Cremers3

Jun 12

Examples from "Modeling and Analyzing ..." book?

Hi Bill and all, I've just made these available now on the book webpage: https://tamarin-prover.

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Examples from "Modeling and Analyzing ..." book?

Hi Bill and all, I've just made these available now on the book webpage: https://tamarin-prover.

Jun 12

Nik Stuckenbrock

May 15

TLS 1.3 Tamarin Model

Hi, I'm currently working on the formal verification of TLS 1.3 build in Tamarin I found on [

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TLS 1.3 Tamarin Model

Hi, I'm currently working on the formal verification of TLS 1.3 build in Tamarin I found on [

May 15

Cas Cremers, Alexandre Anzala-Yamajako3

May 2

Tamarin prover book draft now available for download!

Dear all, We have just released a new version (v0.9.5) of the Tamarin book, available at https://

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Tamarin prover book draft now available for download!

Dear all, We have just released a new version (v0.9.5) of the Tamarin book, available at https://

May 2

Daniel Clark, … Petar Paradžik5

Apr 14

Tamarin building infinite chains of the same rule (similar to looping behaviour)

Thanks so much for that reply, it works perfectly. For future reference, that oracle deprioritises

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Tamarin building infinite chains of the same rule (similar to looping behaviour)

Thanks so much for that reply, it works perfectly. For future reference, that oracle deprioritises

Apr 14

Daniel Zimmerman, … Simon BOUGET6

Mar 7

A Question about Adversary Capability

On Tuesday, March 4, 2025 at 4:57:46 PM UTC+8 Ralf Sasse wrote: For your protocol, the source for the

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A Question about Adversary Capability

On Tuesday, March 4, 2025 at 4:57:46 PM UTC+8 Ralf Sasse wrote: For your protocol, the source for the

Mar 7

Rithwik, Felix Linker6

Feb 25

Help---Getting started with Tamarin

Hi again! I've included a function that works as follows: if: x = SS_fn(d_p, pk(d_i)) y = SS_fn(

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Help---Getting started with Tamarin

Hi again! I've included a function that works as follows: if: x = SS_fn(d_p, pk(d_i)) y = SS_fn(

Feb 25

Daniel Zimmerman, Robert K3

Feb 19

SAPIC+ Channel Questions

On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 4:20:40 PM UTC+8 Robert K wrote: For secret channels, the

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SAPIC+ Channel Questions

On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 4:20:40 PM UTC+8 Robert K wrote: For secret channels, the

Feb 19

Daniel Zimmerman, Felix Linker2

Feb 16

Confusing Message Derivation Check Failure with SAPIC+

Hi Dan, I helped implement this feature. Let me describe you by example what it does. Presume you

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Confusing Message Derivation Check Failure with SAPIC+

Hi Dan, I helped implement this feature. Let me describe you by example what it does. Presume you

Feb 16

Daniel Zimmerman

Feb 14

Odd Error Message w/SAPIC+, state storage, and symmetric-encryption built-in

Hi! I've written a version of the symmetric Needham-Schroeder key exchange protocol in SAPIC+,

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Odd Error Message w/SAPIC+, state storage, and symmetric-encryption built-in

Hi! I've written a version of the symmetric Needham-Schroeder key exchange protocol in SAPIC+,

Feb 14

rolando....@gmail.com

12/13/24

Postdoc position in formal methods for security and privacy

We seek to hire a full-time postdoctoral researcher in the area of formal methods for security and

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Postdoc position in formal methods for security and privacy

We seek to hire a full-time postdoctoral researcher in the area of formal methods for security and

12/13/24

12/4/24

observational issue

Dear all, May be my description above is not clear,below is the specific example and description.

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observational issue

Dear all, May be my description above is not clear,below is the specific example and description.

12/4/24

hua hua, Felix Linker6

11/26/24

Dear Felix Thank you for your response,I think in my model R2 =\=> R1,so the help lemma not work.

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Dear Felix Thank you for your response,I think in my model R2 =\=> R1,so the help lemma not work.

11/26/24

Ralf Sasse, hua hua3

10/26/24

Re: [tamarin-prover] error result about Observational_equivalence

Thank you for your response. If I want to prove the unlinkability of the AKA protocol, meaning the

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Re: [tamarin-prover] error result about Observational_equivalence

Thank you for your response. If I want to prove the unlinkability of the AKA protocol, meaning the

10/26/24

‍한윤선(대학원생-정보융합보안전공), Ralf Sasse2

8/31/24

Seeking advice to resolve server down while autoprove with 256GB RAM

Dear Yoonsun Han, Generally we would try to run the proof attempt without any --heuristic parameter,

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Seeking advice to resolve server down while autoprove with 256GB RAM

Dear Yoonsun Han, Generally we would try to run the proof attempt without any --heuristic parameter,

8/31/24

Joshua “Sync” Singla, Daniel Clark2

8/28/24

Converting a persistent fact to a linear fact causes Tamarin precomputation to be too much

Could you provide an example model that has your issue? It'll be almost impossible to help

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Converting a persistent fact to a linear fact causes Tamarin precomputation to be too much

Could you provide an example model that has your issue? It'll be almost impossible to help

8/28/24

mmhuang, Felix Linker3

8/14/24

Error: tamarin-prover: fd:17: commitBuffer: invalid argument (invalid character)

It worked! Thanks again. 在2024年8月14日星期三 UTC+8 23:24:17<linke...@gmail.com> 写道： Hi, Can you try

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Error: tamarin-prover: fd:17: commitBuffer: invalid argument (invalid character)

It worked! Thanks again. 在2024年8月14日星期三 UTC+8 23:24:17<linke...@gmail.com> 写道： Hi, Can you try

8/14/24

Guillaume Nibert, … Ralf Sasse4

8/12/24

Calculation of the number of partial deconstructions via CLI only

Dear Reynaldo, That would of course be great! Guillaume, maybe you can use the version of Reynaldo in

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Calculation of the number of partial deconstructions via CLI only

Dear Reynaldo, That would of course be great! Guillaume, maybe you can use the version of Reynaldo in

8/12/24

mmhuang, Ralf Sasse2

8/6/24

generate n values and randomly select one, how to model?

Hi, Very abstractly: is what comes out of this a random value? If so, just using a Tamarin fresh

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generate n values and randomly select one, how to model?

Hi, Very abstractly: is what comes out of this a random value? If so, just using a Tamarin fresh

8/6/24

mmhuang, Felix Linker2

8/5/24

what does "/* from formulas */" mean

Hi Huang, „From formulas“ means that either (a) parts of your initial lemma, (b) an auxiliary lemma,

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what does "/* from formulas */" mean

Hi Huang, „From formulas“ means that either (a) parts of your initial lemma, (b) an auxiliary lemma,

8/5/24

6/28/24

Feedback Wanted: New Feature - Editing Tamarin Lemmas in the GUI

Hi everyone, Ralf Sasse and I currently supervise a student, Alice La Porta, who implemented a new

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Feedback Wanted: New Feature - Editing Tamarin Lemmas in the GUI

Hi everyone, Ralf Sasse and I currently supervise a student, Alice La Porta, who implemented a new

6/28/24

Daniel Clark, Felix Linker2

5/30/24

Ordering of cases

Hi Dan, The order is alphabetical and you cannot influence it, unfortunately. Happy proving, Felix

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Ordering of cases

Hi Dan, The order is alphabetical and you cannot influence it, unfortunately. Happy proving, Felix

5/30/24

Simon BOUGET, Cas Cremers3

5/19/24

What is an "impossible chain"?

Hi Cas, Thanks for the explanation. There was indeed a contradiction a few steps further, due to a

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What is an "impossible chain"?

Hi Cas, Thanks for the explanation. There was indeed a contradiction a few steps further, due to a

5/19/24

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