Will the Last Conservative left please flush the toilet before leaving
the building.
Laugh...laugh...laugh...
TMT
Wanna see a "Great Cull" just wait a little less than a year !!!
Laugh...Laugh...Laugh...
It might drag out to 2 yrs before the balloon goes up..but up it will
go.
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:00:49 -0800 (PST), Straightarrow
><hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 16, 12:10�am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> It looks like the Great Conservative Cull is right on schedule.
>>>
>>> Will the Last Conservative left please flush the toilet before leaving
>>> the building.
>>>
>>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>>
>>> TMT
>>
>>Wanna see a "Great Cull" just wait a little less than a year !!!
>>
>>Laugh...Laugh...Laugh...
>
>
>It might drag out to 2 yrs before the balloon goes up..but up it will
>go.
Shall I go back and look at some of your other predictions? I believe
you said Obama didn't have a chance. Am I wrong?
>Re: Is the Great Conservative Cull in Progress?
How's your progress on getting to Sunnyside Terrace?
___________
"I will be bringing the local cops with me to visit you so be sure you
have enough doughnuts for all of us. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools, 5/30/09
"Try posting your real address just once and I will
guarantee you a visit."
-Too Many Tools, 6/2/09, right before
he scrambled for excuses not to show up.
"Got a valid address yet winger?
I would like to arraign[sic] a visit for you."
-Too Many Tools, 6/19/09, still hoping
someone actually believes him.
"Give us a valid address and we can arraign a playdate with some
friends."
-Too Many Tools 7-1-2009 STILL trying to get
someone to believe him
"Show a picture of your mailbox then...with you in front of it. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools 7-2-2009 changing the conditions in
another desperate attempt to weasel out of visiting
"Provide the information and you will receive a visit."
-Too Many Tools, 9-16-2009, yet again making promises
he has no intention of keeping.
"Why don't you provide us with a valid name and address ...and we will
arrange a visit for you."
-Too Many Tools, 9-20-2009, yet *again* making promises
he has no intention of keeping.
In noticed that too...Gunner is moving the deadline...AGAIN.
TMT
And you predicted Obama would be a GREAT leader. Now,who has egg on
their face??
Other than difficulties with the English language that you obviously
have, can you point out where he made such a claim?
Dan
Aren't you a well known OboBot?? 'Nuff said !!
Perhaps in your limited cranial capability.
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> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>It looks like the Great Conservative Cull is right on schedule.
>>
>>Will the Last Conservative left please flush the toilet before leaving
>>the building.
>
> Here's how it will be done.
>
>
> http://spectator.org/archives/2009/11/11/the-absolutely-worst-bill-ever/
print
> Pelosi's Death Panels
>
> "The Worst Bill Ever." That is the title the always calm and rational
> Wall Street Journal put on its editorial on November 1 about the
The American Spectator has a very right of center bias and the Wall
Street Journal is longer a credible source, Murdoch owned.
Your opinion may be valid but better cites are needed.
No.
> 'Nuff said !!
So, your answer is "No, I cannot point out where such comments were made."
You could have just said so, instead of making up fabricated statements.
Dan
> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>It looks like the Great Conservative Cull is right on schedule.
>>
>>Will the Last Conservative left please flush the toilet before leaving
>>the building.
>
> Here's how it will be done.
>
>
> http://spectator.org/archives/2009/11/11/the-absolutely-worst-bill-ever/pr
> int Pelosi's Death Panels
>
> "The Worst Bill Ever." That is the title the always calm and rational
> Wall Street Journal put on its editorial on November 1 about the
> government health care takeover bill that passed the House last week
> on virtually a party line vote, 220-215. But even this label doesn't
> fully communicate the outright assault on the American people involved
> in this legislation. The bill is a serious threat not only to your
> freedom and prosperity, but to your very life as well.
>
> That is because at the heart of this bill is a cruel perversion. The
> bill labors mightily (though it actually fails) to expand insurance
> coverage to everyone (taking the most expensive route possible). But
> then it is devoted to taking away the very health care that you may
> need to save your life, or the life of a loved one.
>
> Pelosi's Death Panels
>
> The bill would create 118 new federal boards, bureaucracies,
> commissions, and programs, which as a group have the power to ration
> and deny you health care. These are the Pelosi death panels. They
> include the Health Choices Administration, the Health Benefits
> Advisory Committee, the Health Insurance Exchange, the Public Health
> Insurance Option, the Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research,
> the Comparative Effectiveness Research Commission, the Accountable
> Care Organization Pilot Program, the Community Based Medical Home
> Pilot Program, the Independent Patient Centered Medical Home Pilot
> Program, and many others.
>
> One of the ways that health rationing would be carried out is through
> so-called "Comparative Effectiveness," where national health care
> bureaucracies will decide what health care treatments, procedures,
> therapies and drugs work best, and which don't. You would think that
> is what your doctor is for, using his medical knowledge and direct
> personal observation of your condition and health history to prescribe
> what is best for you. But liberal Democrats insist that faraway
> federal bureaucrats who don't know anything about you will know
> exactly what health care will work best, in all cases. The House bill
> says that the decisions of federal bureaucrats on comparative
> effectiveness "will be delivered to doctors electronically to guide
> their use of medical items and services," as Betsy McCaughey reports
> in the Wall Street Journal on November 7. If doctors don't take the
> hint, and use their own judgment as to your care instead, they will be
> penalized in their compensation under Pay for Performance.
> ...snip
>
> Medicare Cuts
> ...snip
>
> Soaring Health Costs
> ...snip
>
> Soaring Taxes and Deficits
> ...snip
>
I think the Tree of Liberty may be in need of refreshment.
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
The Republicans WERE given the opportunity to participate...
Now all they are left with is making "stuff" up.
Dan
Agreed...I have read the WSJ for decades and while it has always been
to the right.
Now well...let's just say one needs better cites to confirm they
aren't lying through their teeth.
TMT
Is that what wingers call it when they are pissing on our liberties?
TMT
Well said.
I will bet Winston didn't hear it though.
TMT
He is not a free thinker. He mind is held hostage by MoveOn.Org
> Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:36:08 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>
>>> http://spectator.org/archives/2009/11/11/the-absolutely-worst-bill-
ever/
>>> Pelosi's Death Panels
>>>
>>> "The Worst Bill Ever." That is the title the always calm and rational
>>> Wall Street Journal put on its editorial on November 1 about the
>
>
>>The American Spectator has a very right of center bias and the Wall
>>Street Journal is longer a credible source, Murdoch owned.
>>
>>Your opinion may be valid but better cites are needed.
>
> You are killing the messenger and ignoring the message.
Guilty. I'll go back and read it however such sources are automatically
suspect.
> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Nov 16, 9:16 pm, Dan <dnada...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Winston_Smith wrote:
>
>>> >http://spectator.org/archives/2009/11/11/the-absolutely-worst-bill-
ev...
>>> > Pelosi's Death Panels
>
>>> The Republicans WERE given the opportunity to participate...
>>>
>>> Now all they are left with is making "stuff" up.
>>>
>>> Dan
>
>>Well said.
>>
>>I will bet Winston didn't hear it though.
>
> It's not about the Republicans. It's not about the Democrats. You
> always try to frame everything in an us vs. them football game shouting
> match.
>
> It IS about what's good for the country. It IS about how best to go
> about it. It IS about how we are going to pay for it and how much we
> can afford to spend.
>
> But none of that matters in your little us/them world.
>
> And, oh yes, it IS about what the people actually want. Not what your
> self appointed little group of self described elite thinkers say we
> ought to want.
Ok, I went back and read the article. Heavily biased as expected.
We've been over this ground before but let me offer my perspective:
- U.S. Healthcare has already been taken over. Taken over by monopolies
who have profit as their goal, not public service. Corporate interests
have monopolized pharmaceuticals forever.
- The FDA has given then carte blanc and even made over the counter drugs
prescription or difficult to obtain without a doctors permission.
Corporate interests have taken over patient medical delivery. This is a
relatively new monopoly although it hs been decades in coming.
- Lawyers have run up healthcare costs with class action lawsuits. Watch
the commercials on your prime time or late night tv. Outrageous awards
do cost everyone (and the lyingscumbag lawyers get 1/3 to half) plus
cause doctors to practice defensive medicine.
- Malpractice insurance is enormous. Legal monopoly forces every dispute
into an adversarial situation which requires their own services.
- The American Medical Association has a monopoly on healthcare
delivery. Midwives are essentially out of business, attacks on
alternative medicine practitioners prevent competition. Even while they
keep homeopathy under their broad umbrella.
The problem isn't whether the Federal government is "taking over"
healthcare. Healthcare has already been taken over. Due to reality and
the economic situation Obama cannot confront these powerful lobbies
directly however a "public option" provides some competition which will
force better prices for all.
Instead of attacking a half-assed solution let's go after the real cause,
corporate and federal monopolies.
> What specifically in this article is not factual?
"Death Panels." The very title is provocative and untrue.
Overdue..long overdue.
Was that before or after Nancy Pelosi had the electric and lights and
cameras turned off so the Republicans couldn't do anything?
And perhaps decorated with a few noose's.
Wanna give some EXAMPLES of where the (R)s were invited to
participate in ANYTHING the demorats are trying to shove down our
throats?? And no,one RINO voting for a demorat bill isn't "bi-
partisanship".
> Now all they are left with is making "stuff" up.
>
> Dan- Hide quoted text -
Ayup. But then..Christmas is coming and every town hangs decorations
from their lamp posts.
What is more festive and cheerful than a long main street with a couple
Leftards hanging from each lamp post?
>Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>It looks like the Great Conservative Cull is right on schedule.
>>
>>Will the Last Conservative left please flush the toilet before leaving
>>the building.
>
>Here's how it will be done.
>
>
>http://spectator.org/archives/2009/11/11/the-absolutely-worst-bill-ever/print
Sounds like the last 8 years
>
>Soaring Health Costs
>...snip
Sounds like the last 8 years
>
>Soaring Taxes and Deficits
>...snip
Sounds like the last 8 years.
Toss in two unnecessary wars. ignoring climate change, ruining the
economy, cessation of basic American rights, invasion of privacy,
losing all respect around the world...
Yup..sounds like the last 8 years
> Gray Ghost wrote:
>> Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in
>> news:6v24g5l8jopd8bkkq...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like the Great Conservative Cull is right on schedule.
>>>>
>>>> Will the Last Conservative left please flush the toilet before leaving
>>>> the building.
>>> Here's how it will be done.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://spectator.org/archives/2009/11/11/the-absolutely-worst-bill-ever/
>>> pr int Pelosi's Death Panels
That's for Congress and the DNC.
> >Medicare Cuts
> >...snip
>
> Sounds like the last 8 years
> >
> >Soaring Health Costs
> >...snip
>
> Sounds like the last 8 years
> >
> >Soaring Taxes and Deficits
> >...snip
>
> Sounds like the last 8 years.
>
> Toss in two unnecessary wars. ignoring climate change, ruining the
> economy, cessation of basic American rights, invasion of privacy,
> losing all respect around the world...
>
> Yup..sounds like the last 8 years
Then why the Hell isn't _this_ four years doing anything about it except
making it worse, eh?
I'm with Winston: Two parties, not a dime's worth of difference in
anything that counts, just in the rhetoric.
What "conservatives" are you talkin about? More Americans identify
themselves as conservatives than as liberals.
Maybe you're thinking about Republicans. Lots of folks get them mixed
up.
Tater
To a large degree, yes, both Republicans and Democrats want the same
thing, an omnipotent centralized federal government. The details differ.
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Regards, Curly
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I'd suggest painting the balls of hanging demo-rats a bright red and
sprinkling them with glitter just so they'll be mistaken for Christmas
decorations. Prollum is demo-rats with testicles don't exist
naturally in nature. It's what makes them demorats/progressives.
HMMMMM !! Sounds like the last 10 months. I think you're confused.
(But hey. You're an OboBot)
Hence your cold nekked eyeball popping terror at the mere mention of
Sarah Palin's name.
BOOOOOO !!! SARAH PALIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! See what I mean???
Now,go clean yourself up son. You're an embarassment !
> I'd suggest painting the balls of hanging demo-rats a bright red and
> sprinkling them with glitter just so they'll be mistaken for Christmas
> decorations.
Why are you interested in men's testicles?
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2012 Run, Newt, Run! 2012
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> Hence your cold nekked eyeball popping terror at the mere mention of
> Sarah Palin's name.
>
>
> BOOOOOO !!! SARAH PALIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! See what I mean???
> Now,go clean yourself up son. You're an embarassment !
You're peeping in the wrong window, pervert.
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True indeed!
Course we could shave their heads and paint em green or gold...though
most of them are Red to begin with....shrug
Gunner
Why would you care?? You're a progressive. You have no testicles.
'Nuff said.
George Soros
Love it.
snicker.
You >>MIGHT<< be able to make a credible, if unconvincing, argument that
Democratic Party officials want an "omnipotent centralized Federal
government."
You'll never sell me that "Democrats" want any such thing...
Dan
Spoken as the true lunatic coward that you are.
If you are the best your side has to offer, my side has zero to worry about!
Dan
> Why would you care??
Curiousosity of the wacko right fringe. You creeps seem to have a
decidely unnatural fixation on male anatomy. Is that due to a natural
predilection or was it learned?
> You're a progressive. You have no testicles. 'Nuff said.
Again, you are interested in someone else's testicles. Seek help.
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Hell even our WOMEN have more balls that the lot of his ilk. [Now watch
him attempt to make that a negative in his mind]
Dan
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:56:36 -0500, John Husvar <jhu...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> I've been with Winston for years and I agree with both of you. The real
> rulers of the country don't have to run for office. They own those who
> do and win no matter which politician wins the election. There is too
> much money chasing too few politicians.
Which is why nothing will change until we force serious election reform
upon the politicians. For decades any movement in that direction has
been thwarted by the legislative branch.
Time for a Consitutional Convention by citizens, not lawyers.
It's a negative in _my_ mind but I get your drift.
> It's not going to happen soon, if it ever happens at all. They have a
> winning strategy. It works well. All they have to do is to keep the
> general public thinking that the two political parties are at each
> other's throats and that the populace can affect the future with their
> vote.
>
> Meanwhile, the things that those who really run the country continue
> unabated regardless of which party has political control. All they have
> to do is to throw whichever side is popular this term a bone or two to
> keep them happy.
Exactly. And most are too fucking stubborn to recognize it while
obsessing on a fruitless battle with perceived opponents who have pretty
much the same desires. We live on the planet Ariannus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_That_Be_Your_Last_Battlefield
The dialog is important:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Let_That_Be_Your_Last_Battlefield_%
28episode%29
> Speaking of which, did you see the headline about the Republican
> governor's newest idea. He likes how things are going in Iraq so much
> that he wants to use similar tactics in his state. Gunner should love
> it.
>
> I'm going to start a new thread with it momentarily, but here it is
> here too.
>
> <http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article6919262.ece>
>
>
> Arnold Schwarzenegger visits Iraq - and aims to transfer military
> tactics to California
I'm not a fan of Arnie as governator. He's well meaning but lacks the
cultural background to comprehend America or our society.
Then you are a foolish, burnt out, vacant, insipid fool. Or a Democrat lieing
through his teeth. Which is it?
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
Hey Danny. I hate to be the one to break the sad news but your
"democrat" party has been hijacked by far left fringe kook
progressives that want nothing more than to fundamentally change the
framework of America. IOW, totally destroy the free market system and
replace capitalism with marxism. And they're hellbent for leather to
shove as much of it down our throats before 2010 when there'll be a
bloodbath in congress.
And on the streets too.