how to apply for sympy and gsoc 2010

[Ondrej Certik]

Hi,

sympy was not accepted as an organisation (it has never been accepted)
and so as usual, send all your applications to at least the following
organisations:

* Python Software Foundation (PSF)
* Portland State University (PSU)

if you find some other organisation, that could be interested in your
project, let me know and I'll talk to them.

PSF is concentrating on py3k ports (e.g. it will mostly support
projects involving porting to py3k). SymPy needs to be ported to py3k,
so if any student is interested in that, it'd be awesome
(http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1262). Otherwise, our
projects ideas are here:

http://wiki.sympy.org/wiki/GSoC2010Ideas

feel free to use that as an inspiration or come up with your own idea,
it really depends on you, what you are interested in.

Ondrej

[Christian Muise]

Just had a few quick questions.

- Are multiple apps to the same organization recommended? ie. multiple ideas for sympy under the PSF

- Is the PSU open for any student, or only students attending the university there?

  Thanks. Cheers

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[Aaron S. Meurer]

If you are going to submit multiple apps for sympy, I would recommend submitting each to PSF and PSU, especially considering that a non 2to3 app might not make it through PSF this year.  This isn't the only limitation, though.  For example, Google will almost certainly be giving many more slots to PSF than to PSU, so in some sense you have a better chance with them.  It probably depends on how many "leftover" slots they have after filling the 2to3 ones they apparently want.  This is just speculation, though.  I think for the most part, more applications increases your chances, as long as each application is of high quality (i.e., you don't slop several poor applications together instead of one or two good ones).  

I think it is common to submit multiple apps to the same organization.  The only thing you should be aware of is that any app you submit can be accepted, even if you make it known that you prefer a different one, so don't submit a proposal unless you want to do it.  With that being said, I think you can usually make it known (probably to Ondrej) which application you prefer.  Just know that there is no absolute guarantee that it will be the one accepted.  

All organizations are open to all students.  So, for example, I am not a student of PSU but was accepted under them last year.

Good luck.

Aaron Meurer

[Christian Muise]

Awesome stuff. Thanks for the info -- for some reason I always thought the university mentor orgs were only for local students.

  Cheers

[Ondrej Certik]

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Aaron S. Meurer <asme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you are going to submit multiple apps for sympy, I would recommend
> submitting each to PSF and PSU, especially considering that a non 2to3 app
> might not make it through PSF this year.  This isn't the only limitation,
> though.  For example, Google will almost certainly be giving many more slots
> to PSF than to PSU, so in some sense you have a better chance with them.  It
> probably depends on how many "leftover" slots they have after filling the
> 2to3 ones they apparently want.  This is just speculation, though.  I think
> for the most part, more applications increases your chances, as long as each
> application is of high quality (i.e., you don't slop several poor
> applications together instead of one or two good ones).
> I think it is common to submit multiple apps to the same organization.  The
> only thing you should be aware of is that any app you submit can be
> accepted, even if you make it known that you prefer a different one, so
> don't submit a proposal unless you want to do it.  With that being said, I
> think you can usually make it known (probably to Ondrej) which application
> you prefer.  Just know that there is no absolute guarantee that it will be
> the one accepted.
> All organizations are open to all students.  So, for example, I am not a
> student of PSU but was accepted under them last year.

All of this is exactly correct. Submit as many applications as you
want, to any organisation. You don't have to be a student at PSU. If
the application is good and the mentors at that organisation like it,
it will be accepted.

Ondrej