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hp...@lycos.com

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Aug 26, 2008, 7:35:03 PM8/26/08
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Immigration, legal and illegal, is a greater threat to America than
terrorism, economic collapse. It impact the environment, has the
potential to distort society, and will lead to the third-worlding of
America.

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=AZ&VIPID=33

Mitch

Poetic Justice

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Aug 26, 2008, 8:13:54 PM8/26/08
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At the very least we need to tax these people, the IRS doesn't chase
them and they use our safety net services set up for taxpaying citizens.

We need the Federal Sales TAX... then the Illegals will pay tax with
every purchase. The majority would go home when they see the futility
that that the rest of us see when we look at all the taxes we have to pay.

McCain's Jailer

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:17:19 PM8/26/08
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"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in message
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Reagan signed the bill to fine employers of illegals, then went off into la
la land, never once enforcing his own law.


@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:22:35 PM8/26/08
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Cite that it was Reagan's "own law" and not one originating from
Congress.

Cite that it is the President's duty to directly enforce laws or
Cite that Reagan deliberately ordered the law not to be enforced or
Cite that Reagan in any other way directly caused the law not to be
enforced.


McCain's Jailer

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:32:57 PM8/26/08
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote in message
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Here we go, another neocon who looks for semantics rather than facts.
You cite where Reagan stopped illegals when in fact his own wife was busted
with an illegal Peruvian maid in our White House, shitass.
It's low scum like you who've allowed Bush to destroy America and I feel
nothing for you trash.


@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:37:51 PM8/26/08
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Yeah, I didn't think you'd back up your idiotic claim with facts. You
leftists run away shrieking when you're caught lying.


Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:39:16 PM8/26/08
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We're close to becoming a third world country under the republicans son.
You stupid hate-filled goobers prove the deterioration. We don't illegals
here to do it, you morons have done it for us.


In <b5c0d5ae-41ec-425a...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, on
08/26/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:39:18 PM8/26/08
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They do pay taxes goober. Now run along until you know what you are
talking about.


In <d_0tk.16717$rD2....@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, on 08/26/2008
at 08:13 PM, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com>
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Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:44:38 PM8/26/08
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Are you retard all day long or does it come and go like hot flashes
goober?

The President is the head of the executive branch. It enforces the law.


In <0va9b4p72kojd5vmr...@4ax.com>, on 08/26/2008

@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:47:12 PM8/26/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>
>Are you retard all day long or does it come and go like hot flashes
>goober?
>
>The President is the head of the executive branch. It enforces the law.


Wrong again. Go back to school, liar.

The various police agencies enforce the law, not the President, moron.
That's like saying the mayor enforce the law, not the police chief.

Holy crap you CAN'T be this stupid.

McCain's Jailer

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote in message
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Nothing for me to back up. You insinuated the claim that Saint Reagan did
something about immigration and I contend it was nothing but a signing
photo-op.
So show me where Reagan and Nancy were allowed to have illegal staffers and
I can't.


@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 26, 2008, 11:06:10 PM8/26/08
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that's right. Your entire post was a lie. Thanks for admitting it.

McCain's Jailer

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote in message
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A lie? heh, heh.
"Ronald Reagan did amnesty."
Rudy Giuliani on Saturday, January 5th, 2008 in a debate in Manchester, N.H.

The GOP candidates keep sparring over who's tougher on immigration. In this
climate, dem is fightin' words to say your opponent supports "sanctuary" or
"amnesty" for illegal immigrants.

But as Giuliani reminded his foes during the Jan. 5, 2008, Republican
debate, none other than Ronald Reagan, the patron saint of modern-day
conservatism, signed the very law that Republicans call amnesty.

Say it ain't so!

Sorry. It's so. In 1986, Reagan signed an immigration reform bill, the first
in 20 years, that legalized the status for 1.7-million people.

Some defenders of the law dispute the term "amnesty."

But here's how Edwin Meese, Reagan's former attorney general, characterizes
what his boss did: "President Reagan called this what it was: amnesty.
Indeed, look up the term 'amnesty' in Black's Law Dictionary, and you'll
find it says, 'the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act provided amnesty
for undocumented aliens already in the country.' "

Reagan signed the bill after Republicans and Democrats cobbled together an
amnesty program in response to concerns from farmers worried about
harvesting profits. The official record of congressional debates shows that
lawmakers intended the program to provide a steady supply of labor for
growers of perishable crops, such as cherries, grapes, peaches, etc. At the
time the bill was written, however, "perishable" was defined so loosely that
more durable crops such as potted plants, tobacco and seedlings were lumped
in as well.

So even at the start, this program could be interpreted in ways that would
benefit employers looking to save on wages.

To qualify for temporary status, migrants had to show they entered the
United States before Jan. 1, 1982, and that they had continuously resided
since then. They could get permanent residency within 18 months after that
if they met certain requirements, such as learning English. The program took
effect in 1987, also covering up to 350,000 people who had worked in U.S.
agriculture at least 90 days in each of the preceding three years.

Many have called the program a success because it awarded green cards to
2.7-million migrants, giving them the hope of entry to the American middle
class.

In exchange for the amnesty, the new law was supposed to have beefed up
border patrols and stiffened fines for both the migrant workers and
employers in cases of violation. Alas, the law failed to stop illegal
immigration, and many critics of the law say the government never thoroughly
regulated employers who skirted the law's requirements.

This much is certain: If the law aimed to curb illegal immigration, it
failed: When the law was passed, there were about 5-million illegal
immigrants; now, there's an estimated 12-million.

When Reagan signed the law, many predicted it would encourage the hiring of
more migrants, especially outside of agriculture, and that this would spur
the backlash against immigration that we're seeing today.

Giuliani, it would seem, brought up Reagan's legacy to show how difficult
the immigration issue is. In doing so, he didn't trip any alarms on the
Truth-O-Meter, which scores him a True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/264/

Next time you call someone a liar who's telling a fact, I hope your Daddy
whips you like a GOP turd.


@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 27, 2008, 7:54:04 AM8/27/08
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Unable to do so. Liar.


Cite that it is the President's duty to directly enforce laws or

Unable to do so. Liar.


Cite that Reagan deliberately ordered the law not to be enforced or

Unable to do so. Liar.

Cite that Reagan in any other way directly caused the law not to be
enforced.

Unable to do so. Liar.

Didn't think you'd be able to back your statement up with a single
fact. Thanks for playing.

Paulie Walnutts

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Aug 27, 2008, 9:52:40 AM8/27/08
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> la land, never once enforcing his own law.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Where was the 8 years of Clinton Immigration
enforcement?.................................................................................
(crickets)

Paulie Walnutts

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Aug 27, 2008, 9:54:06 AM8/27/08
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On Aug 26, 8:32 pm, "McCain's Jailer" <mcg...@jail.net> wrote:
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:0va9b4p72kojd5vmr...@4ax.com...
> nothing for you trash.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Can you show proof or did your mouth drive off before you put your
drug addled brain in gear??

Paulie Walnutts

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On Aug 26, 8:39 pm, TruthTel...@nospam.net wrote:
> We're close to becoming a third world country under the republicans son.
> You stupid hate-filled goobers prove the deterioration.  We don't illegals
> here to do it, you morons have done it for us.
>
> In <b5c0d5ae-41ec-425a-a0ca-d134e559d...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, on

> 08/26/2008
>    at 04:35 PM, hp...@lycos.com said:
>
>
>
> >Immigration, legal and illegal, is a greater threat to America than
> >terrorism, economic collapse. It impact the environment, has the
> >potential to distort society, and will lead to the third-worlding of
> >America.
> >http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=AZ&VIPID=33
> >Mitch- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Are you aware of the fact that Pelosi and Barry are both open borders
types?? You do realize they are drawing up yet ANOTHER immigration
reform bill to try and sneak by us in the dark of night? You do
realize that,don't you?

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 27, 2008, 10:47:51 AM8/27/08
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Stop trolling you right wing idiot. You're not only stupid, your boring.

Go read the oath of office for the President goober, and then tell us
that reagon didn't have to enforce the law!


In <gufab4p6iktk8nlqh...@4ax.com>, on 08/27/2008

@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 27, 2008, 8:41:06 PM8/27/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the
office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my
ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United
States."

Nothing about enforcing the law, moron. Stop lying, willya?

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 27, 2008, 9:50:16 PM8/27/08
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You are the quintessential idiot!

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office
of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability,
preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

His duties -- the office of the President --- include enforcing the laws.


...And you wonder why we call you right wingers STUPID.


In <1vsbb4d0imn4n2h6l...@4ax.com>, on 08/27/2008

@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 28, 2008, 7:31:02 AM8/28/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:


>>>Go read the oath of office for the President goober, and then tell us
>>>that reagon didn't have to enforce the law!
>>>
>
>>"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the
>>office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my
>>ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United
>>States."
>
>>Nothing about enforcing the law, moron. Stop lying, willya?
>

>You are the quintessential idiot!
>
>"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office
>of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability,
>preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
>
>His duties -- the office of the President --- include enforcing the laws.

That's what you claim. But we already know you're a liar. And nowhere
does it say that, among the President's duties is 'enforcing the law.'

The words "enforce" or "law" don't even appear.

When I questioned this role, you shrieked, "Go read the oath of
office," which, of course, says NOTHING about enforcing the law.

Most normal people know that law enforcement officers enforce the law.
That's why they are called "law enforcement" officers. It's not just a
coincidence.

This sort of misunderstanding stems from the fact that you're the most
ignorant motherfucker and lying piece of shit to ever draw the breath
of life.

Please do us all a favor and kill yourself, now.

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 28, 2008, 8:10:12 AM8/28/08
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Run along asshole. You are too stupid to know what the duties of the
president are, or to learn. Thus, not worth reading.

PS goober; The Border Patrol is a federal law enforcement agency. Its
under the control of the Executive Branch. That makes the President
responsible for it. And it means bush is responsible for the illegals.
Now go play super moron somewhere else. Your boring us with your drivel.

In <9o2db4tvbbog320an...@4ax.com>, on 08/28/2008

@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 28, 2008, 8:59:56 AM8/28/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>Run along asshole. You are too stupid to know what the duties of the
>president are, or to learn. Thus, not worth reading.

So you claim, but you've yet to prove. Your word, as a proven liar,
doesn't mean anything. I've already proven you have no idea how the
government works. See your list of lies below.

>PS goober; The Border Patrol is a federal law enforcement agency. Its
>under the control of the Executive Branch. That makes the President
>responsible for it. And it means bush is responsible for the illegals.

Yet it is the Border Patrol that enforces the law, not the President.

Now, if you can prove to us with verifiable facts that the President
ordered- as executive- the B.P. NOT to enforce the law, you've have
made your first salient point-- ever. But you can't do that, because
it never happened.

Even if it DID, you'd be too stupid to find it.

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 28, 2008, 9:16:05 AM8/28/08
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You need to work on that GED gobber, so you can learn how the US Goverment
is designed.


In <358db45mmrjgsgs2t...@4ax.com>, on 08/28/2008

@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 28, 2008, 9:30:32 AM8/28/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>You need to work on that GED gobber, so you can learn how the US Goverment
>is designed.

Suppose you get off your lying ass and prove me wrong, dufus. Until
then, I'll just count your ever-growing number of lies. [chuckle]

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 28, 2008, 10:31:53 AM8/28/08
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Run along goober. You've had the facts explained. You refuse to learn.
Yet you keep boring us with your constant stupidity and drivel.

In <h0adb4phjtp2i7jm2...@4ax.com>, on 08/28/2008

@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 28, 2008, 8:25:59 PM8/28/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>Run along goober. You've had the facts explained. You refuse to learn.
>Yet you keep boring us with your constant stupidity and drivel.

Still waiting........... you really have no idea WHAT the President
does, do you? [chuckle]

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"

LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 28, 2008, 9:44:16 PM8/28/08
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Stop trolling and take your meds goober.

In <adgeb4l1vvoqigoij...@4ax.com>, on 08/28/2008

@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:


>Stop trolling and take your meds goober.
>

TRANSLATION: Truthteller wants me to stop reminding him that he's a
liar.

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"

LIE #18 "I found the names"

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 7:26:06 AM8/29/08
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Stop trolling goober. You lost the game a long time back.

And yes asshole, the names of the iraq based negotiators were published
with their comments on how the draft agreement was progressing. Its your
problem that you are too stupid to use google.

Of course you have also told us there was no agreement, and that there are
still WMDs in iraq, and that a usenet conversation between two people is
private, the president is not responsible for agencies in the Executive
Branch of government and other assorted collections of your never-ending
nonsense.

In <6bleb4l1mnpg9gjj2...@4ax.com>, on 08/28/2008

@comcast.net Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 29, 2008, 7:37:44 AM8/29/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:


>In <6bleb4l1mnpg9gjj2...@4ax.com>, on 08/28/2008
> at 06:49 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:
>
>
>
>>In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:
>
>
>>>Stop trolling and take your meds goober.
>>>
>>TRANSLATION: Truthteller wants me to stop reminding him that he's a liar.
>
>

>Stop trolling goober. You lost the game a long time back.
>
>And yes asshole, the names of the iraq based negotiators were published
>with their comments on how the draft agreement was progressing. Its your
>problem that you are too stupid to use google.

You probably couldn't find them if your life depended on it.

>Of course you have also told us there was no agreement

There is no agreement.

"Intense negotiations between US and Iraqi officials are nearly
completed on an agreement"
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2008/0829/1219875239462.html

Now, see how that works? I made a claim, I backed it up with a
verifiable cite.

Are you saying there *is* an agreement? Because if you are, you're a
liar. And you know what lying does- it makes your list longer.
[chuckle]

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 9:41:50 AM8/29/08
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Hey asshole goober, if I post the names will you apologize for your
constant right wing ignorance and shut up?

But you lack the balls to do that -- because you areno-body nothing who is
tolling here for attention. -- Its a common mental defect you right
wingers share.

In <oknfb4h6lvj9g8qt8...@4ax.com>, on 08/29/2008

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:


>In <oknfb4h6lvj9g8qt8...@4ax.com>, on 08/29/2008
> at 04:37 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:
>
>
>
>>In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:
>
>
>>>In <6bleb4l1mnpg9gjj2...@4ax.com>, on 08/28/2008
>>> at 06:49 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Stop trolling and take your meds goober.
>>>>>
>>>>TRANSLATION: Truthteller wants me to stop reminding him that he's a liar.
>>>
>>>
>>>Stop trolling goober. You lost the game a long time back.
>>>
>>>And yes asshole, the names of the iraq based negotiators were published
>>>with their comments on how the draft agreement was progressing. Its your
>>>problem that you are too stupid to use google.
>
>>You probably couldn't find them if your life depended on it.
>
>>>Of course you have also told us there was no agreement
>
>>There is no agreement.
>
>>"Intense negotiations between US and Iraqi officials are nearly completed
>>on an agreement"
>>http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2008/0829/1219875239462.html
>
>>Now, see how that works? I made a claim, I backed it up with a verifiable
>>cite.
>
>>Are you saying there *is* an agreement? Because if you are, you're a
>>liar. And you know what lying does- it makes your list longer. [chuckle]
>
>

>Hey asshole goober, if I post the names will you apologize for your
>constant right wing ignorance and shut up?
>
>But you lack the balls to do that -- because you areno-body nothing who is
>tolling here for attention. -- Its a common mental defect you right
>wingers share.
>

Post the names and prove you're not a liar, fuckwit. Then you can work
on your other lies...

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"

LIE 18 "I found the names"

Truth...@nospam.net

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Thanks for PROVING you are here to troll and lie, right wing asshole
klaus.


In <s6vfb451gmh058t54...@4ax.com>, on 08/29/2008

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>
>
>Hey asshole goober, if I post the names will you apologize for your
>constant right wing ignorance and shut up?


So now you're saying you'll only tell the truth if you get a reward?

[chuckle]

No WONDER everyone considers leftists to be social deviants.


________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 29, 2008, 10:00:42 AM8/29/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>Thanks for PROVING you are here to troll and lie, right wing asshole
>klaus.
>

Thanks for PROVING that you're a liar. Let me know if you EVER figure
out how to post a verifiable citation, willya?

Of course, by that time, the sun will have gone nova.

Scout

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Aug 29, 2008, 11:41:48 AM8/29/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:y0Ttk.1$jE1.0@trnddc03...
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>
> Hey asshole goober, if I post the names <snip>

Hell you couldn't post the names before, so what makes you think you can
post them now?

IF you had the names you would have already posted them.

So asking him this question is sort of like asking someone:

If gravity stopped what would you do?

In short a hypothetical question of an impossible event.

Scout

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Aug 29, 2008, 11:42:15 AM8/29/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:VfTtk.5$jE1.0@trnddc03...

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>
>
> Thanks for PROVING you are here to troll and lie, right wing asshole
> klaus.

So much for posting the names............

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 1:23:29 PM8/29/08
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Once again for the right wing troll:

Hey asshole goober, if I post the names will you apologize for your
constant right wing ignorance and shut up?


In <l30gb4pg3093nufgv...@4ax.com>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 1:23:28 PM8/29/08
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Once again for the right wing troll:

Hey asshole goober, if I post the names will you apologize for your


constant right wing ignorance and shut up?


In <r50gb4pbr2p8ej8o4...@4ax.com>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 1:23:32 PM8/29/08
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You agreee to shut up for a month if I post them goober? I want to see
if you have the balls to be a real man for once?


In <0NUtk.6$393.1@trnddc05>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 1:23:32 PM8/29/08
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So you are too stupid to find them too. Well how about this goober: I
post them and you agree to not post for a month? Got the balls little
boy, or will you troll anyway?


In <rNUtk.6$Af3.3@trnddc06>, on 08/29/2008

Kerry Ladd

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Aug 29, 2008, 2:23:31 PM8/29/08
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Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

> You agreee to shut up for a month if I post them goober? I want to see
> if you have the balls to be a real man for once?

Looking for rewards, before you tell another lie?


Gain an education, you putz!

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 2:28:21 PM8/29/08
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I see you are not Real Man -- with the balls to back up your bullshit --
either goober boy.

The names are in the press reports boys. You know it and I know it. But
you goobers just lack the self-control to just shut up when your wrong.


In <48b83eca$0$20932$607e...@cv.net>, on 08/29/2008

Kerry Ladd

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Aug 29, 2008, 2:33:49 PM8/29/08
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LieT...@nospam.net wrote like the top posting retard he is and wrote:

> So you are too stupid to find them too. Well how about this goober: I
> post them and you agree to not post for a month? Got the balls little
> boy, or will you troll anyway?

Eat another of yer boogers, Boy Blunder.

One has to wonder why this idiot calling himself "Truthteller" refuses
to answer, UNLESS one promises to stop posting to usenet!

OK! I promise!

I "Kerry Ladd" will NEVER post on or into Usenet EVER again, forever,
IF you post what was asked of you... you funky stump stupid lying piece
of cat crap.


David Finck

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Aug 29, 2008, 2:53:41 PM8/29/08
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Truth...@nospam.net the top posting RETARD wrote:

> I see you are not Real Man -- with the balls to back up your bullshit --
> either goober boy.
>
> The names are in the press reports boys. You know it and I know it. But
> you goobers just lack the self-control to just shut up when your wrong.

And yet YOU refuse to name those names, and "press reports", so as to
prove your point?

What kind of a little girl with wet panties are you?


Scout

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Aug 29, 2008, 2:56:32 PM8/29/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:kgWtk.20$jE1.10@trnddc03...

>
>
> Once again for the right wing troll:
>
> Hey asshole goober, if I post the names will you apologize for your
> constant right wing ignorance and shut up?

What if gravity stopped?

That's about as likely as you EVER supporting your assertions, much less
posting these names.

Scout

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Aug 29, 2008, 3:00:28 PM8/29/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:ogWtk.24$jE1.13@trnddc03...

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>
> So you are too stupid to find them too.

Haven't even looked because it's not my job to support YOUR assertions. You
said you could post the names, which means you should already have them. So
why should I try to look for what you claim to have? Particularly when all
the evidence shows that what you assert isn't true?

> Well how about this goober: I
> post them and you agree to not post for a month?

How about you post them simply to support your claim and to prove you're not
a liar?

Oh, that's not a good enough reason, then you shall continue to be viewed as
a liar who can't support his own assertions.


> Got the balls little
> boy, or will you troll anyway?

Feel free to continue to show you have no balls by refusing to support your
own claims. Doesn't matter to me if everyone sees you for a liar.

Scout

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Aug 29, 2008, 3:02:46 PM8/29/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:ogWtk.23$jE1.8@trnddc03...

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>
> You agreee to shut up for a month if I post them goober? I want to see
> if you have the balls to be a real man for once?

You've yet to post them so far, so why should I agree to conditions in order
to get you to post them now?

Nope, if showing that you know what you're talking about, and backing up
your assertions isn't enough of a reason for you to post support for your
claims, then I am hardly going to agree to additional conditions in order to
get you to do so. Because, frankly, I don't care if you are seen as a lying
troll who can't be bothered to support his wild assed assertions.

Scout

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Aug 29, 2008, 3:03:34 PM8/29/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:9dXtk.19$Af3.6@trnddc06...

>
>
> I see you are not Real Man -- with the balls to back up your bullshit --
> either goober boy.

I accept your admission that in your own opinion you are not a "Real Man".


>
> The names are in the press reports boys. You know it and I know it. But
> you goobers just lack the self-control to just shut up when your wrong.


So when are you going to back up your bullshit and post the names?

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 6:58:54 PM8/29/08
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Its not an assertion asshole. It was a news report. And its all irrelevant
goober -->because the draft agreement to withdraw -- some thing bush was
not going to do -- has been made and is now in the hands of bush. Just
like I said it was going to be.

So I won the whole game asshole. Now zip it.

In <ADXtk.19$sq3.7@trnddc07>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 6:58:55 PM8/29/08
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Its not an assertion asshole. It was a news report. And its all irrelevant
goober -->because the draft agreement to withdraw -- some thing bush was
not going to do -- has been made and is now in the hands of bush. Just
like I said it was going to be.

So I won the whole game asshole. Now zip it.


In <gHXtk.20$sq3.9@trnddc07>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 6:58:56 PM8/29/08
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Keep running little man. It means I won and you know it.


In <aKXtk.22$sq3.10@trnddc07>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 7:00:01 PM8/29/08
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This goes for you too goober finck:

Its not an assertion asshole. It was a news report. And its all irrelevant
goober -->because the draft agreement to withdraw -- some thing bush was
not going to do -- has been made and is now in the hands of bush. Just
like I said it was going to be.

So I won the whole game asshole. Now zip it.


In <48b84643$0$7335$607e...@cv.net>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 6:59:59 PM8/29/08
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This goes for you too goober ladd:

Its not an assertion asshole. It was a news report. And its all irrelevant
goober -->because the draft agreement to withdraw -- some thing bush was
not going to do -- has been made and is now in the hands of bush. Just
like I said it was going to be.

So I won the whole game asshole. Now zip it.


In <48b84199$0$7363$607e...@cv.net>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 7:09:44 PM8/29/08
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Once again for dumbass scout:

Its not an assertion asshole. It was a news report. And its all irrelevant
goober -->because the draft agreement to withdraw -- some thing bush was
not going to do -- has been made and is now in the hands of bush. Just
like I said it was going to be.

So I won the whole game asshole. Now zip it.


In <qJXtk.21$sq3.13@trnddc07>, on 08/29/2008

Scout

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Aug 29, 2008, 7:34:58 PM8/29/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:Oa%tk.54$1a2.43@trnddc04...

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>
>
> Its not an assertion asshole. It was a news report.

No, it was your assertion that you could post these names. You didn't, you
haven't and it seems that you can't.

> And its all irrelevant
> goober -->because the draft agreement to withdraw -- some thing bush was
> not going to do -- has been made and is now in the hands of bush. Just
> like I said it was going to be.

In the hands of Bush......

YOU claimed it was ALREADY SIGNED BY BUSH???????????

How can he sign something that he is only now just getting?????

Time travel?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 29, 2008, 8:33:14 PM8/29/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>Once again for the right wing troll:
>
>Hey asshole goober, if I post the names will you apologize for your
>constant right wing ignorance and shut up?

Post the names and prove you're not a liar, fuckwit. We both know you
won't.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 29, 2008, 8:33:59 PM8/29/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:


>In <l30gb4pg3093nufgv...@4ax.com>, on 08/29/2008
> at 06:59 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschade...@qwest.net> said:
>
>
>
>>In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hey asshole goober, if I post the names will you apologize for your
>>>constant right wing ignorance and shut up?
>
>
>>So now you're saying you'll only tell the truth if you get a reward?
>
>>[chuckle]
>
>>No WONDER everyone considers leftists to be social deviants.
>
>

>Once again for the right wing troll:
>
>Hey asshole goober,

once again for the leftist liar...

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 29, 2008, 8:57:24 PM8/29/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>
>This goes for you too goober ladd:
>
>Its not an assertion asshole. It was a news report.

So you say. But then, I've proven you to be a liar, haven't I?
[chuckle]

>And its all irrelevant
>goober -->because the draft agreement to withdraw -- some thing bush was
>not going to do -- has been made and is now in the hands of bush. Just
>like I said it was going to be.


No, you said... well, see below for a list of your lies.

"Intense negotiations between US and Iraqi officials are nearly

completed on an agreement..."
Friday, August 29, 2008
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2008/0829/1219875239462.html

You're up to TWENTY confirmed lies now.

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"
LIE 18 "I found the names"

LIE 19 "There is nothing wrong with the sentences goober."
LIE 20 "draft agreement to withdraw... has been made and is now in the
hands of bush."


Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 11:51:08 PM8/29/08
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Hey goober, the fact is the draft is done -- and it was announced by none
other the Sec. of State -- and is now in the hands of Washington. You
are calling her a liar. It goes with your nonsense about bush not being
in charge of what happens in the Executive Branch.

Now run along and play moron somewhere else. Oops I forgot. You're not
playing.


In <sh6hb4d0eff6p57j2...@4ax.com>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 11:51:10 PM8/29/08
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It was signed by his agents asshole, or maybe you don't think the Sec. of
State and others work for and report to bush.

We need an education law that does not you morons out of the 8th grade
without learning how to think.


In <CI%tk.32$Dj1.0@trnddc02>, on 08/29/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 29, 2008, 11:51:07 PM8/29/08
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I won this game asshole. Now go play your troll games somewhere else.

In <r85hb4tqgd100urfq...@4ax.com>, on 08/29/2008

Scout

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Aug 30, 2008, 6:59:04 AM8/30/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:Ls3uk.57$sq3.19@trnddc07...

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>
> I won this game asshole. Now go play your troll games somewhere else.

So once again we see that you can't post the names like you said you could.

Scout

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Aug 30, 2008, 7:00:32 AM8/30/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:Os3uk.61$sq3.25@trnddc07...

>
>
> It was signed by his agents asshole, or maybe you don't think the Sec. of
> State and others work for and report to bush.

If it were signed by others, then it wasn't signed by Bush, it was signed by
them. However, they didn't sign it either, because it's not even done yet.
So you lied.

>
> We need an education law that does not you morons out of the 8th grade
> without learning how to think.

Feel free to return to school at any time to learn how to think.

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 30, 2008, 7:30:28 AM8/30/08
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Sure I can, just as you can find them if you wanted to do something
besides troll. The fact is the draft is done. The point of the names
working on the draft is now irrelevant. Find another hobby goober.

And due to your limited thinking capacities; Goober = Stupid.

In <YJ9uk.54$Wd.47@trnddc01>, on 08/30/2008

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 30, 2008, 7:30:27 AM8/30/08
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Sorry goober, but they were working with the authority of the President of
the United States of America. Their signatures are as good as his for the
purpose of the draft. (Otherwise goober, nothing would never get done in
international relations)

Perhaps a good GED program will help you with history, government
functions and cognitive reasoning and reading comprehension -- all of
which you are not capable of working with.

And due to your limited thinking capacities a clarification; Goober =
Stupid.

In <kL9uk.55$Wd.27@trnddc01>, on 08/30/2008

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 30, 2008, 7:43:29 AM8/30/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>
>
>I won this game asshole. Now go play your troll games somewhere else.

If by "win" you mean "caught lying," yeah, you're a winner all right.

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"
LIE 18 "I found the names"

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 30, 2008, 7:57:22 AM8/30/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:


>Hey goober, the fact is the draft is done -- and it was announced by none
>other the Sec. of State -- and is now in the hands of Washington.

Washington is dead, liar.

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"
LIE 18 "I found the names"
LIE 19 "There is nothing wrong with the sentences goober."
LIE 20 "draft agreement to withdraw... has been made and is now in the
hands of bush."

LIE 21 "Shrinks tell us that people who whine about typos do so
because they have nothing to say."

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 30, 2008, 8:05:01 AM8/30/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>
>
>Sorry goober, but they were working with the authority of the President of
>the United States of America.

Still waiting for you to prove that anyone has the "authority of the
President," liar.

>Their signatures are as good as his for the purpose of the draft.

Still waiting for you to prove that "he has to sign them," liar.


These are your old lies. Can't you come up with any new ones?

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"
LIE 18 "I found the names"

LIE 19 "There is nothing wrong with the sentences goober."

LIE 20 "draft agreement to withdraw... has been made and is now in the
hands of bush."

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 30, 2008, 8:15:18 AM8/30/08
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You have lied and you keep on lying here goober klaus. You have been
corrected by me and others and you still lie. I'm not playing your troll
games. However, you do need to seek professional mental health treatment
for your constant lying and other aberrant behaviors here.

In <lbdib4pb8ivtuengc...@4ax.com>, on 08/30/2008

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 30, 2008, 8:15:31 AM8/30/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>
>
>Sure I can, just as you can find them if you wanted to do something
>besides troll. The fact is the draft is done.

Cite. You need the practice, liar.


________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"
LIE 18 "I found the names"

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 30, 2008, 8:19:11 AM8/30/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>
>
>You have lied and you keep on lying here goober klaus.

It's sad, I've reduced you to just repeating your gibberish over and
over again. You're just a shell of the man you once were.

And that wasn't much of a man to begin with. [chuckle]

Scout

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Aug 30, 2008, 8:22:21 AM8/30/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:nbauk.99$1a2.82@trnddc04...

>
>
> Sorry goober, but they were working with the authority of the President of
> the United States of America. Their signatures are as good as his for the
> purpose of the draft.

Perhaps, but they are NOT Bush. Thus he did NOT sign it. Good enough doesn't
make it his signature.

Scout

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Aug 30, 2008, 8:26:31 AM8/30/08
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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:obauk.100$1a2.20@trnddc04...

>
>
> Sure I can, just as you can find them if you wanted to do something
> besides troll.

You have produced no evidence that you have, can or could find them. Thus
you are a troll by your own admission.

> The fact is the draft is done.

Now, but it clearly wasn't when you said it was over 2 weeks ago. Much less
signed by Bush.


> The point of the names
> working on the draft is now irrelevant.

I can see how proving you're not a liar could be deemed irrelevent, since by
this time everyone who has followed this discussion knows you are a liar.

Truth...@nospam.net

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Aug 30, 2008, 9:07:49 AM8/30/08
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Working with the AUTHORITY of the President is working for him. Signing a
document with his authority is signing for him, and that means he
effectively signed the draft.

Now go play stupid somewhere else goober. Your lying, driveling and
stupidity is boring.

In <1Yauk.58$Wd.8@trnddc01>, on 08/30/2008

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 30, 2008, 9:40:10 AM8/30/08
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In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:

>
>
>Working with the AUTHORITY of the President is working for him. Signing a
>document with his authority is signing for him, and that means he
>effectively signed the draft.

Nobody can sign for the President, fool, unless he's incapacitated in
which case the Vice President can sign for him.

He hasn't signed any draft. You're a liar, as usual. Learn about our
government, OK?


________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
LIE 16 "Klaus said it was a private conversation"
LIE 17 "It's the President's job to enforce the law"
LIE 18 "I found the names"

LIE 19 "There is nothing wrong with the sentences goober."

LIE 20 "draft agreement to withdraw... has been made and is now in the
hands of bush."

Scout

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<Truth...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:FCbuk.45$Af3.16@trnddc06...

>
>
> Working with the AUTHORITY of the President is working for him. Signing a
> document with his authority is signing for him, and that means he
> effectively signed the draft.

Sorry, but effectively is not the same as Bush actually doing so.

Further you have yet to show that anyone has the authority to sign for the
President of the United States.

So Bush did NOT sign it, and I suspect no one else is authorized to sign for
him.

Scout

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kschade...@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> In talk.politics.guns Truth...@nospam.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Working with the AUTHORITY of the President is working for him. Signing a
>>document with his authority is signing for him, and that means he
>>effectively signed the draft.
>
> Nobody can sign for the President, fool, unless he's incapacitated in
> which case the Vice President can sign for him.

Not even then. If the President is incapacitated then the VP takes over the
duties of President by becoming the President........he can not act as the
President until he becomes the President.

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