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From: MARK ROBERTS <plei...@earthlink.net>
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Subject: [Para-Discuss] ***Gender:"thanks for the fish"
><< May Spider Woman continue to smile upon
> the space where we have all connected on HER Sacred Web.
> Ciao fer now,
> "Thanks for the fish"
> M*
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>I do not understand the labeling of any diety female or male,, could you
>help me here. I feell it is an all encompassing energy. not female or male
>in origin,, although i feel as if since ancient times the energy was directed
>towards the feminine more than the masculine. but for me,, it is well,, It
>just IS. not male or female,,,,,
>Peace
>Orion
Dear Orion, You ask GOOD questions.
First for backup please read - THE WOMAN'S ENCYCLOPRDIA OF MYTHS AND SECRETS
by Barbara Walker ... good surface learning for surface cleaning.
Hard to know where to start - maybe, Matriarchal-Anthro 101, it is rather
easy to tell a patriarchal site: walls; barracks for troops; prisons; and
a temple to a male deity ... matriarchal site: no walls, no prisons, barracks;
and exceptional plumbing (no matter how ancient, better than the original
White House or Versaille) healing center and a temple to a Goddess ...
Conclusion, life is safer for children and everyone of there is a societal
focus on matriarchy/Goddess.
>From 30,000 BCE to 6,000 BCE spiritual belief was primarily Goddess oriented.
Life was not perfect, but society was evolving at a rather quality rate ...
There was then the double Y mutation (do not ask, major discovery about
the link between homicidal maniacs/succeful buisness tycoons/male religious
leaders - it is a seminar-long subject) ... whatever, males started believing
that deity was in their image - and vengeful deities were birthed - and
conversions were mostly made at the point of a sword - all the way to the
burning time stakes of the Inquisitions ...
male deity gives good-housekeeping seal of approval to patriarchal patterns
of : control ; warfare ; believe in my path or burn ; women are property of
men ; etc. etc.
Until male deitys set the pattern - female deitys were highly sophisticated
levels - no female on a throne of control/vengence - just the nurturing
essence of female ... Victorian scholars really messed things up - at that
point some 2,000 examples of ancient (approx 10,000BCE) Rock Art: paintings,
bas-reliefs, figurines related to deity/spirituality - if paint was used,
it was red, universal symbol for life/deity/etc. - all were Goddesses - all
more sophisticated than most of today's spiritual art ... and ONE charcoal
sketch of a male shaman in a horned ritual/hunting gear (the scholars knew
even then, that charcoal was used to example mortal matters, hunting scenes
etc. etc. - instead - they looked at the 2,000 examples of Goddess and the
one example of a mortal shaman - and declared to the world - DUALITY !!!
My Chapter two details how all of the prime contacts were made during the
era of the Matriarchies - when the focus was on evolving civilization
... hard universal image, female contacts - majority Pleiades -
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I don't know what this means. Any of it, actually, but espescially this bit.
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and Star
of Woemen - the planet that orbits Sirus C = Sothis etc. etc. All ancient
Greek temples etc. oriented to the Pleiades - Egyptian to Sirius/Sothis .
with Cargo-Cult factor of when BEAM of light entered the inner temple,
it (beam) transformed into visiting deity ... Now, we have the same error
that Petrie did with many Egyptian mummies - if the person is important
and powerful, it is male ... The rather androgenous ETs still define close
to the universal Eye-Goddess of the Neolithic - as an artist, I can make
minimal adaption and any "grey" will be stated as a female by anyone.
If the contact is important and potentially powerful, "It must be male"
and or little Green Men - endless hours of proof - HARD evidence.
On this planet life is perceived as XX or XY - we understand evolving
patterns by studying the fetus - all are originally female ... and many
life forms (May Fly) etc. use parthonagenisus reproduction (probably
misspelled - rushing) all life forms including humans are capable of
such - ever wonder why virgin birth was such a sign of deity (Mithra,
Christ, Mithra, etc. etc.) ... Parthenogenisus breakthrough was done
decades prior to cloning (but Parth/etc. sends a message that unnerves
male scientists) - you probably did so in biology 101 when you pricked
a frog's egg with a pin and made a tadpole - saline solution for
triggering human egg (a tad trickier that that - but this is 101.
Males have good value - some would not continue the patriarchal lies.
Bachofen (male) coined the term Matriarchy etc. etc.
Such is an overview - too fast - but a starter - beyond that, is personal
belief in deity - and I have not gone there since I was a Methodist minister.
And had to fumble with lies to small children who asked - there was Adam
and Eve - then Cain and Able - and Cain and Able went elsewhere for wives ???
The anser is known by any minister who went to a real seminary - or any
Jew - and now any girl who attends rock concerts - LILITH (in any dictionary)
bad editing job in Genisus from Jewish original source - Lilith was Adam's
first wife - eve #3 ... LiLith/Lilitu Goddess of Babylon who cast out
patriarchal fanatics - as Lilith rejected Adam ... hmmm while in the
dictionary - Teraphim - plural word - Rachel stole Teraphim - universal
3 household Goddesses of the Jewish nation - they may have had temple
to a male deity - all hearths were the property of the Goddess.
etc. etc. etc.
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His website is http://home.earthlink.net/~pleiadesx/
These people never fail to amaze me.
--
Living is easy, with eyes closed,
Misunderstanding all you see...
http://www.crosswinds.net/~ncavalier
>Hard to know where to start - maybe, Matriarchal-Anthro 101, it is rather
>easy to tell a patriarchal site: walls; barracks for troops; prisons; and
>a temple to a male deity ... matriarchal site: no walls, no prisons, barracks;
>and exceptional plumbing (no matter how ancient, better than the original
>White House or Versaille) healing center and a temple to a Goddess ...
>Conclusion, life is safer for children and everyone of there is a societal
>focus on matriarchy/Goddess.
Yikes. Where would we start? Every sentence would need some
significant paragraphs to invalidate.
Amazing how large a house of cards one can build.
--
(ężę) John C
www.socmen.org
>On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 05:03:37 GMT, ncav...@crosswinds.net (Stephen
>Morgan) wrote:
>
>>Hard to know where to start - maybe, Matriarchal-Anthro 101, it is
>>rather easy to tell a patriarchal site: walls; barracks for troops;
>>prisons; and a temple to a male deity ... matriarchal site: no walls,
>>no prisons, barracks; and exceptional plumbing (no matter how ancient,
>>better than the original White House or Versaille) healing center and a
>>temple to a Goddess ... Conclusion, life is safer for children and
>>everyone of there is a societal focus on matriarchy/Goddess.
>
>Yikes. Where would we start? Every sentence would need some
>significant paragraphs to invalidate.
There were an alarmingly large number of replies agreeing with this. One, to be
precise. And the disagreements were of the "I disagree, but you're probably
right anyway because I'm a coward" variety.
>Amazing how large a house of cards one can build.
It's a pity people turn bonkers like this.