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Sleepy

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Jul 1, 2003, 9:30:04 PM7/1/03

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William Rucker +ca 1794 Thomas Rucker ca 1705-1763
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Jr. Rucker William 1744-1834 Frankey (Frances) Rucker +ca 1795
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Barden Rucker ca 1785- Frances Alexander ca 1786 Mildred
Milly Alexander 1798-1868
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Sarah Ann Rucker 1822-1899 William A. Glenn 1829-1914
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Louisa G. Brown 1860-1949 Columbus A. Glenn 1855-1892
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Lillian Ione Glenn 1892-1975

Todd A. Farmerie

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Jul 2, 2003, 12:58:52 AM7/2/03

to Sleepy

[excess crossposting removed]

At least the early part of the pedigree is fatally flawed.

Sleepy wrote:
> Charlemagne King of Franks 742-
> &771 Hildegarde Cts of Vinzgau 758-783
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> Charles the Younger Duke of Ingelheim 772-811
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Had no known children.

> Rowland de Neustria

This is the Roland of "Song of Roland" fame. He does not belong
as grandson of Charlemagne, just being added here to allow a
descent from this christian hero, and Charlemagne.

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> Godfrey de Neustria
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> Baldwin de Blois
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> Baldwin de Blois

While they have been put in different places (Nuestria and Blois)
these are easily recognizable. Continuing the 'crusader' aspect
of the pedigree, here we have Godfrey, Baldwin I, and Baldwin II,
successive rulers of Jerusalem. The problem is that Godfrey and
Baldwin I were brothers, sons of Count Eustace of Boulogne, and
contemporaries of Robert de Beaumont, four generations down the
pedigree, living several centuries after the death of Roland.
Likewise Baldwin II of Le Bourg was their distant kinsman. He
had no sons, John in the next generation being placed here due to
the mistaken impression that Burgh and le Bourg represent a
common surname, unlikely due to it's generic topographic nature.

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> John de Bourg de Tonsburgh Earl of Comyn 969

This John de Bourg, Earl of Comyn (a title that did not exist at
this time, and perhaps ever) is the reputed father of Herluin de
Conteville, who married William the Conqueror's mother. (I know
this because the part of the pedigree from Charlemagne down to
this point is stolen in its entirety from the fraudulent Irish
Burgh pedigree that traces thus through an invented son of
Herluin. As such, the 969 date is impossible.

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> Oda de Conteville 994
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If I recall correctly, Oda is the name of Waleran of Meulan's
wife, but her parentage is entirely unknown. She was almost
certainly not sister of Herluin de Conteville, who was a
generation later, and whose family was completely obscure before
his step-son became a young adult.

> Adeline de Meulan Cts of Meulan 1014-1081
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> Robert de Beaumont de Meulan Earl of Leicester ca 1049-1118
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> Waleran de Beaumont de Earl of Worcester 1104-1166
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> Isabel de Beaumont

I cannot address the rest of it with the sources I have handy
(perhaps someone else can), but the inaccuracy of it to this
point should give you pause.

taf

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